oliviacamron said:

PeteSilas said:

it's odd but today i read about a local college kid who supposedly drove into some water and drowned, looked at the comments and there was a guy who had a liink to suspicious deaths where bodies are found in the water and their clothes are all on inside out. People aren't sure what it was but some people thought it may have been an interdimensional creature or aliens, anyway, i don't know but the clothes on inside out made me think of Prince.

So Aliens think the tag goes in the front ? there are no Aliens. God made angels, animals,and man , clearly stated in the Bible. There are however demons ( fallen angels) , there leader Satan, and many people who worship him.

Oh...

I am utterly fascinated with your worldview and am still waiting for your list of the 25% of the "really important stuff" that I refuse to believe in that I called bullshit on but apparently got wrong. You (and a few others here) absolutely crack me up. You're like "duhhhh....of COURSE there is not life on other planets ('LOL') but naturally there ARE demons!"

"You'd have to be some kind of crazy person to think there's life beyond our planet but let me tell you about chemtrails, vaccinations and demons."

my people still believe in bogey men like sasquatch, skinwalkers etc.., I mean really believe, just like you might believe something as real as your mom or dad.

herb4 said:

oliviacamron said:

PeteSilas said:

it's odd but today i read about a local college kid who supposedly drove into some water and drowned, looked at the comments and there was a guy who had a liink to suspicious deaths where bodies are found in the water and their clothes are all on inside out. People aren't sure what it was but some people thought it may have been an interdimensional creature or aliens, anyway, i don't know but the clothes on inside out made me think of Prince.

So Aliens think the tag goes in the front ? there are no Aliens. God made angels, animals,and man , clearly stated in the Bible. There are however demons ( fallen angels) , there leader Satan, and many people who worship him.

Oh...

I am utterly fascinated with your worldview and am still waiting for your list of the 25% of the "really important stuff" that I refuse to believe in that I called bullshit on but apparently got wrong. You (and a few others here) absolutely crack me up. You're like "duhhhh....of COURSE there is not life on other planets ('LOL') but naturally there ARE demons!"

"You'd have to be some kind of crazy person to think there's life beyond our planet but let me tell you about chemtrails, vaccinations and demons."

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

CooperC62057 said:

cloveringold85 said:

MMJas said:

At what time did AK check in at the hotel, anyone knows? Could he have been met at the hotel by a Prince rep and given the rep something for Prince to take in the meantime, and then gone to the hotel with the idea of going to PP in the morning? is that possible?

Found this comment by KarmaeatsDogma :
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I know another patient who died while taking the unmonitored buprenorphine prescribed by Dr. Kornfeld. His name was Dr. John Boyle Borchers. He was a neurosurgeon and a brilliant guy. He was teaching at Stanford while taking these powerful detox meds. John took off in a plane one evening heading for Tahoe, while on these meds and crashed and died. This doctor should be shut down. You CANNOT DISPENSE BUPRENORPHINE safely unless monitored medically during the transition from the opiode meds. Sending ones son, not a doctor, and NOT calling 911 to get immediate help for Prince, is simply unacceptable.

My Kaiser doctor stated that her mother who was having a drinking problem, went to Dr. Kornfeld and was put in a hotel room alone, and was so over-medicated for “detox” with his goulash of drugs that she nearly died. He’s a train wreck waiting to happen.

Dr. Kornfeld, who is known to many MD’s in the San Francisco bay area as ” Dr. Frankenstein” charges a boatload of cash for his visits, he cuts the buprenorphine up into his version of the right dose, and dispenses it himself without a pharmacy making all of the profit without any of the standard care a patient should be given. He should be investigated at the highest level."

http://heavy.com/entertai...-911-call/

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I remember reading that horrific story. Dr. Kornfeld is a horrible doctor! Prince would never associate with anyone like that. There are plenty of qualified doctors in and around Minneapolis, so why they contacted this freaky frankenstein, Lord only knows!!

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Pisses me off everytime I read "medical emergency", but no one bothered to get him to hospital or treatment facility, ASAP??!! They supposedly brought in Andrew Kornfeld to help Prince. Not sure how he was gonna help Prince, because he was not even a doctor, then Prince is found dead in the elevator. I hate saying the word "dead", but man, this really just sucks!!

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Everything surrounding Prince's death has "foul play" written all over it!!

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I hope the investigators cross every T and dot every I in this case!

oliviacamron said:

herb4 said:

oliviacamron said:

PeteSilas said: So Aliens think the tag goes in the front ? there are no Aliens. God made angels, animals,and man , clearly stated in the Bible. There are however demons ( fallen angels) , there leader Satan, and many people who worship him.

Oh...

I am utterly fascinated with your worldview and am still waiting for your list of the 25% of the "really important stuff" that I refuse to believe in that I called bullshit on but apparently got wrong. You (and a few others here) absolutely crack me up. You're like "duhhhh....of COURSE there is not life on other planets ('LOL') but naturally there ARE demons!"

"You'd have to be some kind of crazy person to think there's life beyond our planet but let me tell you about chemtrails, vaccinations and demons."

I should have never took a bite of your troll bait .

Well, when I give a long, detailed list of non-snensical things that many many people believe as fact and am told that "I am wrong about 25% if it - the really important stuff", I don't think it's too much to ask from the person who said that to explain, in detail, the 1 out of 4 "really important things" I'm presumabley wrong about. You shoot off your mouth every chance you get about your beliefs; how "demons, vaccine autism and chemtrails are absolutely REAL" but only idiots believe in life on other planets and advise and admonish logical posters to "get real" and shit.

So instead of writing me off as a troll (along with a few other rational folks), how about enlightening us with your unique wisdom instead of hand waving away posters who apply their logic to Prince's death and express their ideas rationally as "trolls". Do you believe exorcism is real? Was 9/11 an inside job?

If you don't want people to respond to your posts and their rather narrow niche of what's "crazy" and what's not, maybe don't post insane bullshit and vague (and sometimes blatant) assertions regarding your unique handle on "the truth". You fucking posted it on a public forum. Defend it, cite sources, explain your rationale and clarify your meaning...or not, if you simply lack the courage or the knowledge of your convictions. You can circle jerk with the 4 or 5 other conspiracy minded lunatics that permeate these threads all you want, but don't cry "foul" when you post things and get called out on the things you write.

"Nuh-uh, you're wrong" is not a rebuttal and "you're a troll" is a cowardly, childish defense against something as simple as being asked to elaborate on the aspersions that you yourself cast.

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

CooperC62057 said:

I've been looking into this. Fentanyl comes in gel, liquid and powder form. Difficult to obtain the liquid form unless there is some medical connection and highly unlikely to be obtained in such a quantity as a gallon as opposed to a vial. However, fentanyl is a manufactured product and it is being manufactured in China - the drug dealers obtain it through a pipeline direct from China. They then add it to their "cocktail" of crushed pills prior to pressing their own counterfeit pills which are then sent into the streets for sale. Fentanyl apparently is cheap to manufacture and purchase. So, if the dealer adds a more powerful high to their pills, they can charge more for their product and believe it or not, their product is more sought after because it is more potent. Problem is that they cannot regulate the quantity or "dosage" from one pill to the next and therefore, one pill may be deadly while the next is simply a more potent "high". Add to that the fact that when people who abuse opiates hear of an overdose or death, they will actively seek to purchase from that exact source. In heroin overdoses, the majority of the time, the heroin has been "cut" with fentanyl to increase the dealer's profit (fentanyl is cheaper than heroin). It's not the heroin that has caused the death - it's the fentanyl. None of this may have any relevance into what happened in Prince's case but since it was brought up, just thought I'd help to clarify.

thanks for the info. Well if someone wanted to intentionally harm P seems they knew what they were doing.

They didn't.

oliviacamron said:

In April the Illuminati do sacrifices

See? Now come the fuck on.

CooperC62057 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

I hear you, so unreal..I don't understand death investigations but I wonder how come they did not declare it a crime scene first to see what the autopsy said. Who spoke to law enforcement to make them feel this was normal P behavior? Hope that person is being questioned

Hi Purple Diamonds! Just a thought I've had whenever the discussion comes up about PP being declared a crime scene.....how do we know it wasn't?

It was.

herb4 said:

herb4 said:

CooperC62057 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said: Hi Purple Diamonds! Just a thought I've had whenever the discussion comes up about PP being declared a crime scene.....how do we know it wasn't?

It was.

CooperC62057: At the time that P was found, It was a "death scene". The CCS stated that there

was no foul play suspected. They turned PP back over to the family that evening. It wasn't until May

that the DEA obtained a search warrant and considered it a "crime scene". Had there been an

active crime scene then PP would not have been turned back over the the family. PP would have

been secured with no entry until all searches, ect. completed. But as we all know, there was alot of

traffic in PP over that time frame, as there was the private service. Also, during that time, the media

was reporting that the DEA, FBI, and other state agencies were assisting in an investigation, and all

the while CCSO was saying that there was no outside agencies assisting. That is up until May when

the search warrant was issued and the DEA was on hand to execute the warrant. Then it could no

longer be denied. My take on this is that there should have been a full investigation from the

beginning, especially because it is a high profile case. Now as it stands the integrity of the scene

was contaminated. We don't know if anything was added to or taken away. P was cremated very

quickly, there's no going back on that to take a second look if needed. I question the hap-

hazardness with which the case has been handled.

Since I haven't noticed anyone, including nosey azzed TMZ, has posted any pictures of P being removed from PP in a bodybag to an ambulance did they remove P out back through a loading dock or something?

I'm glad I haven't seen any pictures of that or any from the ME or crematorium, but I'm surprised the media allowed P his privacy since they love to show morbid stuff like that.

LBrent said:

Since I haven't noticed anyone, including nosey azzed TMZ, has posted any pictures of P being removed from PP in a bodybag to an ambulance did they remove P out back through a loading dock or something?

I'm glad I haven't seen any pictures of that or any from the ME or crematorium, but I'm surprised the media allowed P his privacy since they love to show morbid stuff like that.

We have discussed this many times. It is really surprising that not one media outlet has a photo

or video. It's crazy!! I don't think anyone knows how and where this occurred.

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zenarose said:

LBrent said:

Since I haven't noticed anyone, including nosey azzed TMZ, has posted any pictures of P being removed from PP in a bodybag to an ambulance did they remove P out back through a loading dock or something?

I'm glad I haven't seen any pictures of that or any from the ME or crematorium, but I'm surprised the media allowed P his privacy since they love to show morbid stuff like that.

We have discussed this many times. It is really surprising that not one media outlet has a photo

or video. It's crazy!! I don't think anyone knows how and where this occurred.

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zenarose said:

LBrent said:

Since I haven't noticed anyone, including nosey azzed TMZ, has posted any pictures of P being removed from PP in a bodybag to an ambulance did they remove P out back through a loading dock or something?

I'm glad I haven't seen any pictures of that or any from the ME or crematorium, but I'm surprised the media allowed P his privacy since they love to show morbid stuff like that.

We have discussed this many times. It is really surprising that not one media outlet has a photo

or video. It's crazy!! I don't think anyone knows how and where this occurred.

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Other than P not being dead at all...The most likely scenario is that his body was taken downstairs to the basement / underground garage via the internal stairs (or elevator, if there is one 'going down' - I'm assuming there is) and driven out in a plain vehicle, thereby avoiding being seen / recognised.

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There are various exits in the building. One would have to watch hours of tape to see which vehicles went in and which went out during approximately the first two to four hours.

Mumio said:

cloveringold85 said:

I don't understand what's going on here either. Threads are being deleted, for some unknown reason. I would think that the Mod's understand that this is really the only place we can come here to share information, look for answers and grieve for our Prince, becasue we all miss him and love him dearly and we're just trying to find closure.

Actually, if I recall correctly....didn't someone who was also involved in these discussions say they had created a FB page to specifically discuss conspiracy/murder/poisoning type topics? Can't recall the poster's name though.

I researched many FB groups and found a few, yet does anyone remember the name of it? If so, please share and we can go there and share please.....Did not realize posts were being deleted

For years I thought P owned a purple Panoz but I now know it was actually a Prowler.

Does anyone know which year his car was?

I ask because the first production was under Plymouth and the Prowler in purple metallic was the only color available in 1997.

More colors were added and the car was manufactured by Chrysler after that, around 1999 or 2000.

Just curious.

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LBrent said:

1Sasha said:

zenarose said:

Crime scene protocol (Minnesota):

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https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/forensic-science/Pages/forensic-programs-crime-scene.aspx

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Crime scene protocol (Minneapolis):

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http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/policy/mpdpolicy_10-100_10-100

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What Carver County Sheriff DID NOT DO:

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After incident stabilization, the on-scene ranking investigative officer, or designee is in charge of a crime scene within the yellow tape. -- Nope. No yellow tape at PP to close off the crime scene.

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The on-scene ranking patrol supervisor or designee is in charge of the scene outside the yellow tape. Until an investigative officer arrives, the on-scene patrol supervisor will be responsible for the entire scene.

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The on-scene patrol supervisor is also in charge of the entire scene when the investigative supervisor leaves the scene. The on-scene supervisor will communicate to the patrol supervisor when they are relinquishing the scene.

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Scene security shall remain in place until the Crime Lab personnel have finished processing the scene. Nope. Search Warrant was not issued until a week after Prince died.

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Officers working security may only be released from an active scene on agreement between Crime Lab personnel and the on-scene supervisor.

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Transcript from Press Conference with Sheriff Olson (Carver County) from CNN:

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QUESTION: Sheriff, how detailed are your crime scene investigators?
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OLSON: Excuse me.
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QUESTION: How detailed are your crime scene investigators working and processing the scene? Can you kind of talk to us about how meticulous you guys are working and who is helping out on that?

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OLSON: Well, Hennepin County Crime Lab is helping us from a
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processing standpoint and they are meticulous. That is what they do. So they're very meticulous, photos and so on.

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I say: WHAT'S THAT? Hennepin County? That's rather strange, considering Carver County has their own crime lab, unless they just needed more assistance with processing the crime scene.

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The Carver County Sheriff's Office provides statutory law enforcement coverage throughout Carver County. In doing so, the Sheriff provides county-wide response to calls for service, transports prisoners and staffs the courts for security, serves civil process and warrants, conducts criminal investigations, processes crime scenes and operates a crime lab,

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http://www.co.carver.mn.us/departments/county-sheriff

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http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1604/22/cg.01.html

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cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Crime scene protocol (Minnesota):

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https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/forensic-science/Pages/forensic-programs-crime-scene.aspx

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Crime scene protocol (Minneapolis):

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http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/policy/mpdpolicy_10-100_10-100

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What Carver County Sheriff DID NOT DO:

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After incident stabilization, the on-scene ranking investigative officer, or designee is in charge of a crime scene within the yellow tape. -- Nope. No yellow tape at PP to close off the crime scene.

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The on-scene ranking patrol supervisor or designee is in charge of the scene outside the yellow tape. Until an investigative officer arrives, the on-scene patrol supervisor will be responsible for the entire scene.

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The on-scene patrol supervisor is also in charge of the entire scene when the investigative supervisor leaves the scene. The on-scene supervisor will communicate to the patrol supervisor when they are relinquishing the scene.

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Scene security shall remain in place until the Crime Lab personnel have finished processing the scene. Nope. Search Warrant was not issued until a week after Prince died.

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Officers working security may only be released from an active scene on agreement between Crime Lab personnel and the on-scene supervisor.

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Transcript from Press Conference with Sheriff Olson (Carver County) from CNN:

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QUESTION: Sheriff, how detailed are your crime scene investigators?
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OLSON: Excuse me.
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QUESTION: How detailed are your crime scene investigators working and processing the scene? Can you kind of talk to us about how meticulous you guys are working and who is helping out on that?

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OLSON: Well, Hennepin County Crime Lab is helping us from a
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processing standpoint and they are meticulous. That is what they do. So they're very meticulous, photos and so on.

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I say: WHAT'S THAT? Hennepin County? That's rather strange, considering Carver County has their own crime lab, unless they just needed more assistance with processing the crime scene.

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The Carver County Sheriff's Office provides statutory law enforcement coverage throughout Carver County. In doing so, the Sheriff provides county-wide response to calls for service, transports prisoners and staffs the courts for security, serves civil process and warrants, conducts criminal investigations, processes crime scenes and operates a crime lab,

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http://www.co.carver.mn.us/departments/county-sheriff

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http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1604/22/cg.01.html

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Thanks for posting the transcripts.... Has Carver county ever answered why Hennepin county was involved? Just one more thing to add to the seems really strange list of things surrounding Ps death and investigation

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Sorry my post was a little long, but I wanted to get the important stuff in there. I wonder why they got Hennepin County involved -- I wish I could answer your question as to why they did that. I don't know how big a county Carver County is, but perhaps they didn't have enough man power or were working on other criminal cases, so they had to get help from Hennepin? That is just my guess.

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Thanks for posting the transcripts.... Has Carver county ever answered why Hennepin county was involved? Just one more thing to add to the seems really strange list of things surrounding Ps death and investigation

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Sorry my post was a little long, but I wanted to get the important stuff in there. I wonder why they got Hennepin County involved -- I wish I could answer your question as to why they did that. I don't know how big a county Carver County is, but perhaps they didn't have enough man power or were working on other criminal cases, so they had to get help from Hennepin? That is just my guess.

I am not in LE...to me it looks like Carver county did not do a lot of things in a timely manner. Seems carver allowed anyone access to PP and pills could have been placed after the fact

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Yes, I have been very verbal about this topic, because it's very upsetting, to say the least. I don't think Carver County Sheriff did a satisfactory job with handling the crime scene/investigation.

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said: I am not in LE...to me it looks like Carver county did not do a lot of things in a timely manner. Seems carver allowed anyone access to PP and pills could have been placed after the fact

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Yes, I have been very verbal about this topic, because it's very upsetting, to say the least. I don't think Carver County Sheriff did a satisfactory job with handling the crime scene/investigation.

IMO they thought it was probably a "simple" death and they could handle it. The next day, after the ME did her work, they learned it wasn't clear cut, and all hell broke loose. The site was compromised, the body was cremated, and they couldn't handle the investigation. What a mess ... What a mess ... The man was an international icon - you think they would have pulled in the feds up front and locked down PP and kept his body in one piece until the physical examination of everything was completed.