cloveringold85 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

sonshine said:

I agree. And it's what makes the process of grieving his loss so damn hard. He should still be here. His death was sudden and unexpected. I'm glad people want to find those responsible (if that scenario fits this situation) and hold them accountable. But I do wish people would calm down, take a deep breath, and ease up on the endless speculation and personal theories about his last days on earth. He would be mortified by the liberties people are taking in discussing his very private life and very personal matters. Not to mention the nastiness of some org members towards others. This is not a time to fight with each other. Let the people working the investigation do their jobs. They will get to the bottom of this. It's very important for them to get this right. Prince was well respected here in MN. But also his is a high profile case at a time when the opioid epidemic has reached a critical point. His untimely and unfortunate death may be the turning point finally as his stature as someone famous got people's attention. The last thing any of us wants is to turn his death, the circumstances around it and the investigation into a circus. Sometimes that's what it feels like in these threads. I'm not judging anyone here or trying to tell anyone what to do. Prince was a pretty class act who attracted a lot of classy fans - all of us!

I just have to say that as hard as it's been to lose this beautiful soul, his death wasn't in vain. Why? Because it saved my life. I had hit a critical point in my life where i was tolerant to my pain meds and I was having to take more and more to get relief. I was so afraid to say anything BC of the stigma that comes from needing these meds, especially in high doses, that I suffered and battled for almost s year. I had a gastric bypass which makes my meds also not be absorbed like a normal person. You can see where this is going. It wasn't long after his death that I finally broke down and talked to my pain Dr who made adjustments immediately. Since then, I am in less pain than in 10 years. I'm not even having to take the whole dosage a lot of the times. I will forever be indebted to this man BC who knows where id be had I not opened my eyes to the dangers surrounding this issue. I love you Prince and miss u like crazy!!! [Edited 10/26/16 7:39am]

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I'm glad to hear that. You had the courage to speak up and tell your doctor, and if you ever feel your doctor isn't listening to you or care how you feel........find a new doctor!!

precioux said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Olivia: I don't think they are "buying time". They have more people to question. I'm actually releived that they aren't rushing through this case just to be done with it. I hope they make sure no stone goes unturned.

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Just curious if anyone realizes that less than a month ago (10/4?) It was stated that this was still an ongoing investigation, but that they "only had ONE person on the case", being that basially they didn't have time to put all efforts into this one case and that they had to concentrate on more active cases. Soo...to have the investigation team all of a sudden state that this is a VERY ACTIVE HOMICIDE case, leads me to believe that yes, this was a stall tactic, knowing that otherwise, the warrant would have had to be unsealed this week. I'm not saying that the case should be closed, I'm just disputing the fact that it was stated there was only one detective on the case (less than a month ago), and now it is considered "highly active"....thoughts?

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Good point, but I think they were referring to Carver County Sheriff. The DEA is still involved in the case. But then again, who knows -- maybe they aren't telling us everything?

I've solved the conspiracy!!!!

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Fortuneserendipity, Phatphuk, Superconductor & Herb4.........ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE!!

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And, they are all experts too!! LMAO!!

PennyPurple said:

PhatPhuk says:

Incidentally — Superconductor raises an interesting point about education. For any of you kids out there that poo-poo the value of a higher education. Just keep this in mind: A high school education teaches you how to do homework. An undergraduate/graduate education teaches you how to think.

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Seriously, now?? You need to get off your high horse!!

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cloveringold85 said:

phatphuk said:

Superconductor said:

"…I would not rely on Prince for any insight into issues outside music. He was into conspiracy theories…

…Chemtrails, new world order, illuminati and also the stuff around the third eye pineal gland are all conspiracy theories that have been debunkend again and again. So thoroughly debunked and so easy to debunk that it is astounding anyone who went through high school could still believe this rubbish. But there you go…

…Prince also believed that the word God has been deliberately deleted from the Bible to control people. That is based on JW doctrine and plain ignorant. The practice of using the word Lord instead of the Tetragrammaton is based on a custom/law in Judaism not to pronounce the name of God in its original Hebrew form YHWH and say the word Adonai in its place which means My Lord or My Master. Hence the translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word Lord in those places where the Hebrew says YHWH…"

Man! I'm glad somebody else has finally said what I've always thought about Prince's position on things outside his field of expertise. Thank's Superconductor!

At the 05:40 mark of this impromptu live radio interview, Prince says, "There's no such thing as UFOs…"

I think it's pretty revealing about Prince, how, on one hand the guy can apply scientific reasoning and logic — "cause and effect" — with rational thinking and razor sharp sceptism when it comes to UFOs.

But then on the other hand he tosses all his skeptism and logic out the window when it comes to a lot of the other conspiratorial, pseudo-science nonsense in which he's purported to have believed.

Talk about a mass of contradictions?

Incidentally — Superconductor raises an interesting point about education. For any of you kids out there that poo-poo the value of a higher education. Just keep this in mind: A high school education teaches you how to do homework. An undergraduate/graduate education teaches you how to think.

You do realise he's saying there's no such things as UFO's (Unknown Flying Objects) in the sense that they are not Unkown? Just saying.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

When was the last time he talked to Appolonia?

From Appolonias FB post Feb 28, 2016 http://prince.org/msg/5/431452

Thank you.

MMJas said:

phatphuk said:

Man! I'm glad somebody else has finally said what I've always thought about Prince's position on things outside his field of expertise. Thank's Superconductor!

At the 05:40 mark of this impromptu live radio interview, Prince says, "There's no such thing as UFOs…"

I think it's pretty revealing about Prince, how, on one hand the guy can apply scientific reasoning and logic — "cause and effect" — with rational thinking and razor sharp sceptism when it comes to UFOs.

But then on the other hand he tosses all his skeptism and logic out the window when it comes to a lot of the other conspiratorial, pseudo-science nonsense in which he's purported to have believed.

Talk about a mass of contradictions?

Incidentally — Superconductor raises an interesting point about education. For any of you kids out there that poo-poo the value of a higher education. Just keep this in mind: A high school education teaches you how to do homework. An undergraduate/graduate education teaches you how to think.

You do realise he's saying there's no such things as UFO's (Unknown Flying Objects) in the sense that they are not Unkown? Just saying.

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MMJ: Man you are SO good. You are right -- Prince was being sarcastic when he said that. Some people didn't "get it".

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I find it quite interesting that even the sarcastic people on here didn't get that one!! LMAO!!

tmo1965 said:

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said: /. In the original song Bill Withers said his brother sat right down and talked to me. Prince put in Kirk instead of brother. I do think he is actually complaining about people using him in general. I just wonder who he meant.

Since he starts the song by saying that "you know you left me", I think he is talking about a woman.

Not necessarily. Like i said previously, imagine that Kirk had told Prince he would no longer supply him (if Kirk were the hypothetical supplier) cause he saw what it was doing to him and that it was getting out of hand. Imagine him sirtting down and telling Prince he was gonna call a doctor, tell his sisters, whatever. Prince would be pretty pissed of, feeling betrayed even. Thinking Kirk had no idea what it was like being in his shoes. If that was the case, then Kirk left him, in a sense.

That perhaps could mean a new supplier or Prince getting the stuff himself and therefore the fentanyl laced pills, cause they were not com,ing from the usual source.

oliviacamron said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

oliviacamron said:

God turns bad into good. I think other lives will be saved .

Amen! That He does. Never once gave it a second thought even with all the other drug overdoses we have seen. Losing Prince hit me like a Mac Truck and I am still crying a lot BC I feel like I can so relate to what he was battling. It's almost like why save my life Lord? What do I offer?! im a 42 year old whos lost everything BC of my injuries and livimg on disability now with no hope of returning to my career. Prince had the ability to touch and help so many people while here. Ya know? I am grateful tho that my situation didn't spiral out of control. The timing is just crazy cause I know it could have easily gone bad!

Good for you. Congratulations on seeking help. That was a huge step.

MMJas said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Superconductor said:

Yeah there is certainly some sick stuff being posted in this endless death thread.

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Re the other thing. There could be many sources for heavy metals in soils. Certainly could be transported by air but from a plane 10,000 m up high? Lol, very inefficient way of distribution. Much more likely a source closer to the ground or in the ground e.g. factories, traffic, building materials, paints, even some fertilisers or pesticides etc.

You might be surprised actually just how far pollution can travel. When chernobyl happened, farmland in Wales had to be prohibited from use for food produce. Wales is nowhere near Ukraine.

This is sadly true. I live in North Wales - the area most affected. The rates of cancer shot up in subsequent years: many of our parents contracted it and died all at around the same time - in their fifties.

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

MMJas said:

tmo1965 said:

Since he starts the song by saying that "you know you left me", I think he is talking about a woman.

Not necessarily. Like i said previously, imagine that Kirk had told Prince he would no longer supply him (if Kirk were the hypothetical supplier) cause he saw what it was doing to him and that it was getting out of hand. Imagine him sirtting down and telling Prince he was gonna call a doctor, tell his sisters, whatever. Prince would be pretty pissed of, feeling betrayed even. Thinking Kirk had no idea what it was like being in his shoes. If that was the case, then Kirk left him, in a sense.

That perhaps could mean a new supplier or Prince getting the stuff himself and therefore the fentanyl laced pills, cause they were not com,ing from the usual source.

I encourage everyone to listen to the ENTIRE video. He is not starting the song with "you know you left me"-that part is the ending of Place of Your Man(the song is all about how her man left her)-he usually tells a story and that what his ending to that piece of the "story" the he segways into Use Me, which leads into How Come U Don't Call Me. This section of the show was obviously around the theme of a failed relationship. It has noting to do with his relationship with Kirk. He used his name because Kirk is his closest friend and would be the one to approach him to "break it down" about a woman using him.

Nooriginalusername said:

MMJas said:

Not necessarily. Like i said previously, imagine that Kirk had told Prince he would no longer supply him (if Kirk were the hypothetical supplier) cause he saw what it was doing to him and that it was getting out of hand. Imagine him sirtting down and telling Prince he was gonna call a doctor, tell his sisters, whatever. Prince would be pretty pissed of, feeling betrayed even. Thinking Kirk had no idea what it was like being in his shoes. If that was the case, then Kirk left him, in a sense.

That perhaps could mean a new supplier or Prince getting the stuff himself and therefore the fentanyl laced pills, cause they were not com,ing from the usual source.

I encourage everyone to listen to the ENTIRE video. He is not starting the song with "you know you left me"-that part is the ending of Place of Your Man(the song is all about how her man left her)-he usually tells a story and that what his ending to that piece of the "story" the he segways into Use Me, which leads into How Come U Don't Call Me. This section of the show was obviously around the theme of a failed relationship. It has noting to do with his relationship with Kirk. He used his name because Kirk is his closest friend and would be the one to approach him to "break it down" about a woman using him.

Seems plausible...

Nooriginalusername said:

cloveringold85 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

oliviacamron said:

"…Fantasy? I want my life back but I have no peace. When someone you love died,and you believe someone hurt them but the truth ain't out, it's terrible! I want to be wrong. I say Warners/ Illuminati killed Prince, I hope I find out different so I can let go…

"…I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame…

…The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories…

"…Certainly no one here is implying that Prince was a saint. None of us are perfect…

…Prince himself even spoke openly about the Illuminati, NWO, Chemtrails and corrupt government. I have great respect for Prince because he had the courage to speak out on what was wrong in the world. He was an intelligent person, not some nut case!! You call us nuts is the same thing as calling Prince nuts, as far as I'm concerned…

…Prince was about the truth, peace and justice and that is all we want for him -- he deserves nothing less…"

If Prince really believed the conspiracy theory claptrap and the pseudo-science nonsense, then yeah. He was nuts — as far as I'm concerned.

But that's OK. Prince wouldn't have been the first artistic genius that spouted off with a load of horse shit — in matters not pertaining to their artistic gift

Have you ever heard Eddie Murphy's Shut up, Stevie! stand-up bit? The gist if the skit is, Stevie Wonder is another one of those musical genius types who mistakenly convinced themselves that their musical genius made them immune to talking complete and utter rubbish. The kind of pseudo-intellectual nonsense, that makes people wanna tell them…

"…Just shut the fuck up Steve…Just take the muthafuckin' award and get the fuck out…I know you a musical genius and all…but that shit don't impress me…"

I often got the impression from Prince, that he suffered from that same "Stevie Talking Horse Shit Again Syndrome" that Eddie Murphy joked about.

There's an old maxim that goes, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt".

The point being: Even musical geniuses babble on about nonsense that make you wish they'd just shut up and play their friggin' guitar!

In other words: Prince was an imperfect human being.

phatphuk said:

Dibblekins said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

You might be surprised actually just how far pollution can travel. When chernobyl happened, farmland in Wales had to be prohibited from use for food produce. Wales is nowhere near Ukraine.

This is sadly true. I live in North Wales - the area most affected. The rates of cancer shot up in subsequent years: many of our parents contracted it and died all at around the same time - in their fifties.

I lived in Western Europe at the time of Chernobyl. A lot of the prohibition at the time was a precaution. Not aware of any correlation between cancer risk/rate and radioactivity following Chernobyl. Do you have a source?

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It depends on the substance, its source and the atmospheric conditions how far stuff can travel. Often more likely there is a local source that causes pollution and any associated health and morbidity/mortality outcomes.

laurarichardson said:

phatphuk said:

If Prince really believed the conspiracy theory claptrap and the pseudo-science nonsense, then yeah. He was nuts — as far as I'm concerned.

But that's OK. Prince wouldn't have been the first artistic genius that spouted off with a load of horse shit — in matters not pertaining to their artistic gift

Have you ever heard Eddie Murphy's Shut up, Stevie! stand-up bit? The gist if the skit is, Stevie Wonder is another one of those musical genius types who mistakenly convinced themselves that their musical genius made them immune to talking complete and utter rubbish. The kind of pseudo-intellectual nonsense, that makes people wanna tell them…

"…Just shut the fuck up Steve…Just take the muthafuckin' award and get the fuck out…I know you a musical genius and all…but that shit don't impress me…"

I often got the impression from Prince, that he suffered from that same "Stevie Talking Horse Shit Again Syndrome" that Eddie Murphy joked about.

There's an old maxim that goes, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt".

The point being: Even musical geniuses babble on about nonsense that make you wish they'd just shut up and play their friggin' guitar!

In other words: Prince was an imperfect human being.

Wow it took so many brain cells to tell us the obvious. Who did not know that Prince was not perfect. Prince even said himself he made mistakes in the industry. What does any of this have to do with the price of peas?

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There's a difference between acknowledging he was not perfect and believing "Prince is far more intelligent, intuitive, than us. " (your previous post)

Superconductor said:

Dibblekins said:

This is sadly true. I live in North Wales - the area most affected. The rates of cancer shot up in subsequent years: many of our parents contracted it and died all at around the same time - in their fifties.

I lived in Western Europe at the time of Chernobyl. A lot of the prohibition at the time was a precaution. Not aware of any correlation between cancer risk/rate and radioactivity following Chernobyl. Do you have a source?

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It depends on the substance, its source and the atmospheric conditions how far stuff can travel. Often more likely there is a local source that causes pollution and any associated health and morbidity/mortality outcomes.

I'm sure I can find sources for you, yes - if / when I locate them I'll drop you a private message, as opposed to derailing the thread further - would that be OK?

Superconductor said:

IMO the Illuminati material et al is just rubbish. Even brilliant musicians can be caught up in such ridiculousness. A little too much time on his hands and/or a little too much fundamentalist influence? I have relatives who are born-again who think Halloween is Satan worship and that the Bible says that. My reply was, "Where in the Bible does it say Walmart cannot sell billions of dollars of candy in October?" Some religions go off the tracks, and Prince went off with the JWs. Similar in effect to Scientology or LDS.

laurarichardson said:

Superconductor said:

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There's a difference between acknowledging he was not perfect and believing "Prince is far more intelligent, intuitive, than us. " (your previous post)

Well I never said anything about him more intelligent than anyone else however, I don't think he was a moron and some people are intuitive. The music industry is tough and he was a survivor and he did have the albilty to see about five paces ahead of other people in that industry. In addition, many people who knew him said he would just show up when they needed something as if he just knew people needed help.

I confused you and OliviaCameron. Maybe you two are the same person?

Superconductor said:

laurarichardson said:

Superconductor said: Well I never said anything about him more intelligent than anyone else however, I don't think he was a moron and some people are intuitive. The music industry is tough and he was a survivor and he did have the albilty to see about five paces ahead of other people in that industry. In addition, many people who knew him said he would just show up when they needed something as if he just knew people needed help.

I confused you and OliviaCameron. Maybe you two are the same person?

When we make replies sometimes it appears that one person is replying to something but it is actually someone else. it appears to be a system clicth.

I did comment on the whole idea that the vast majority of people on this board hink that Prince was more intelligent than anyone else since Prince did not even think that himself from his own statements.

I am not Olivia Cameron. I do think a whole separate topic could be started on the fact that

many people do not seem to realize that the super wealthy and powerful do have knowledge of things that the rest of us do not have.

laurarichardson said:

Superconductor said:

I confused you and OliviaCameron. Maybe you two are the same person?

When we make replies sometimes it appears that one person is replying to something but it is actually someone else. it appears to be a system clicth.

I did comment on the whole idea that the vast majority of people on this board hink that Prince was more intelligent than anyone else since Prince did not even think that himself from his own statements.

I am not Olivia Cameron. I do think a whole separate topic could be started on the fact that

many people do not seem to realize that the super wealthy and powerful do have knowledge of things that the rest of us do not have.

Maybe. I just think they live in a different bubble.