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Reply #30 posted 10/05/16 7:30pm

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


--- Let it go. He was in withdrawals from the meds failing at it and suppose to go to a rehab the next day. Drugs were not his only issue. Who would be in a hurry to get to rehab if something was killing you. There was a rumor two years ago that he was in the hospital for Sepsis and KJ said in the search warrant that in was in the hospital for treatments.

What??? Never mind.

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Reply #31 posted 10/05/16 7:37pm

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sonshine said:


What??? Never mind.

-- I will put up the links if you don't believe me.

It's not about not believing you, it's about comprehending your thought process. Your unique interpretations at best seem contradictory at times. Idk but it's ok I don't need to get it. I already came to my own ideas.
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Reply #32 posted 10/05/16 7:42pm

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


-- I will put up the links if you don't believe me.

It's not about not believing you, it's about comprehending your thought process. Your unique interpretations at best seem contradictory at times. Idk but it's ok I don't need to get it. I already came to my own ideas.

--- If you can't comprehend all along that I have been saying that their was more to the story that is your problem.
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Reply #33 posted 10/05/16 7:48pm

CDinwiddie

ForeverPaisley said:

I have been a wreck all day. Yesterda reading 'their' plan, in their mad scramble to dampen the wrath of the purple army after the announcement of no PP tours, then only on the 6, 8 & 14...to put Prince 'artifacts' on display at the GD MOA. That didn't sit right with me at all. Am I the only one? The idea that they're reducing him to objects as if that's what were why/what we are/were going to PP for. And I also wish they would stop and think What Would Prince Do/want - because while I didn't know him PERSONALLY I'd be willing to wager he sure AF wouldn'tw any his things carted around Minneapolis and put on display in a mall. But maybe that's just me disbelief

Today, with the clips, images and quotes of the Today show interview... I find myself absolutely gutted all over again. The images of the way they have things set up ... Just sent a dagger of heartache. It really was reality kicking me in the shin with cleats! He's. Gone. cry

And no, I haven't been in denial this whole time. I actually thought I was making some progress, not crying as often as before. But today I can't seem to keep it together. broken bawl

On a different forum thread kingricefan posted the following... I think this person is right...

For those of you that are going to get to see PP, I wish you all the best time ever. Don't shed tears, friends, it's not what P would want. He would want you to have the grandest party ever! Make that house SHAKE!

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Reply #34 posted 10/05/16 7:59pm

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laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:
OMG!!! bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl I really feel like she's referring to his substance abuse issue. We have had friends and acquaintances who struggled with and eventually less their battles with addicting and their family members all said something similar. This is heartbreaking all over again
--- Let it go. He was in withdrawals from the meds failing at it and suppose to go to a rehab the next day. Drugs were not his only issue. Who would be in a hurry to get to rehab if something was killing you. There was a rumor two years ago that he was in the hospital for Sepsis and KJ said in the search warrant that in was in the hospital for treatments.

eek . You just ooze compassion. How lucky for your friends and family members. disbelief Please leave your negative judgements at the door. To walk into a thread that clearly is about people who are having a tough time right now in light of everything, and stomp on their...our feelings, is gross. Please troll elsewhere. We officially revoke your unsolicited invitation and banish your unfriendly input.

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Reply #35 posted 10/05/16 8:01pm

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sonshine said:

ForeverPaisley said:

I have been a wreck all day. Yesterda reading 'their' plan, in their mad scramble to dampen the wrath of the purple army after the announcement of no PP tours, then only on the 6, 8 & 14...to put Prince 'artifacts' on display at the GD MOA. That didn't sit right with me at all. Am I the only one? The idea that they're reducing him to objects as if that's what were why/what we are/were going to PP for. And I also wish they would stop and think What Would Prince Do/want - because while I didn't know him PERSONALLY I'd be willing to wager he sure AF wouldn'tw any his things carted around Minneapolis and put on display in a mall. But maybe that's just me disbelief

Today, with the clips, images and quotes of the Today show interview... I find myself absolutely gutted all over again. The images of the way they have things set up ... Just sent a dagger of heartache. It really was reality kicking me in the shin with cleats! He's. Gone. cry

And no, I haven't been in denial this whole time. I actually thought I was making some progress, not crying as often as before. But today I can't seem to keep it together. broken bawl

I'm glad it's not just me. I'm struggling today too. My head is spinning. It's all just coming at me too much, too fast maybe. Idk but I've been out of sorts all day and can't get my s*** together with Prince so heavy on my mind and in my heart. Hugs to you!!! hug hug

hug sonshine, sorry you too are also dealing with this heartache. To say that I'm glad I'm not alone actually is not a consolation in this case as hate for others to be feeling the way I am today. Again. Still. broken hug

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Reply #36 posted 10/05/16 8:02pm

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sonshine said:

Gadotou said:


Yup, going through another dip in the grief rollercoaster myself. The activity related to the October events called up some sadness in me but I kept it together today. Tonight though? With the news about Tyka saying Prince knew he was leaving us soon? All bets are off cry




hug for ForeverPaisley and grouphug for all of us


yeahthat




I was crying when I seen hand written notes and then Tyka bombshell I am a mess. I was just accepting Prince not being here and playing his music bringing me joy. But I am sooooo sad tonight?
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Reply #37 posted 10/05/16 8:13pm

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hug

Thank U morningsong hug

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Reply #38 posted 10/05/16 8:14pm

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ForeverPaisley said:

I have been a wreck all day. Yesterda reading 'their' plan, in their mad scramble to dampen the wrath of the purple army after the announcement of no PP tours, then only on the 6, 8 & 14...to put Prince 'artifacts' on display at the GD MOA. That didn't sit right with me at all. Am I the only one? The idea that they're reducing him to objects as if that's what were why/what we are/were going to PP for. And I also wish they would stop and think What Would Prince Do/want - because while I didn't know him PERSONALLY I'd be willing to wager he sure AF wouldn'tw any his things carted around Minneapolis and put on display in a mall. But maybe that's just me disbelief

Today, with the clips, images and quotes of the Today show interview... I find myself absolutely gutted all over again. The images of the way they have things set up ... Just sent a dagger of heartache. It really was reality kicking me in the shin with cleats! He's. Gone. cry

And no, I haven't been in denial this whole time. I actually thought I was making some progress, not crying as often as before. But today I can't seem to keep it together. broken bawl

hug I know what you mean!

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Reply #39 posted 10/05/16 8:15pm

ForeverPaisley

laurarichardson said:

Gadotou said:


Yup, going through another dip in the grief rollercoaster myself. The activity related to the October events called up some sadness in me but I kept it together today. Tonight though? With the news about Tyka saying Prince knew he was leaving us soon? All bets are off cry


hug for ForeverPaisley and grouphug for all of us

-// It broke my heart when she said it but I believed all along he knew he was dying. I expect the next few days are going to rough as more details come out.

Exactly this. So tragic. broken

grouphug for all of us who have extra heavy purple hearts today.

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Reply #40 posted 10/05/16 8:17pm

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sonshine said:

Mumio said:

You've all seen this, right:
http://www.etonline.com/n...two_years/

No specifics of course....but yes, they knew. Just like many have been saying.

OMG!!! bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl I really feel like she's referring to his substance abuse issue. We have had friends and acquaintances who struggled with and eventually less their battles with addicting and their family members all said something similar. This is heartbreaking all over again

hug pat I know hun. It's like it just tore off freshly sown stitches over my tattered heart broken

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Reply #41 posted 10/05/16 8:18pm

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ForeverPaisley said:

I have been a wreck all day. Yesterda reading 'their' plan, in their mad scramble to dampen the wrath of the purple army after the announcement of no PP tours, then only on the 6, 8 & 14...to put Prince 'artifacts' on display at the GD MOA. That didn't sit right with me at all. Am I the only one? The idea that they're reducing him to objects as if that's what were why/what we are/were going to PP for. And I also wish they would stop and think What Would Prince Do/want - because while I didn't know him PERSONALLY I'd be willing to wager he sure AF wouldn'tw any his things carted around Minneapolis and put on display in a mall. But maybe that's just me disbelief

Today, with the clips, images and quotes of the Today show interview... I find myself absolutely gutted all over again. The images of the way they have things set up ... Just sent a dagger of heartache. It really was reality kicking me in the shin with cleats! He's. Gone. cry

And no, I haven't been in denial this whole time. I actually thought I was making some progress, not crying as often as before. But today I can't seem to keep it together. broken bawl

Keep an open mind. I know it seems hazy, but try not to listen to sources!

A bit difficult when the source is Tyka? cry

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Reply #42 posted 10/05/16 8:24pm

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I'm broken in pieces right now. I've never commented on his death here before. I come here (half the time not feeling worthy) only to enjoy him as I struggle with my regrets and guilt of missing out on so much of him in the past few years, but today has blown me away emotionally. I watched the video so casually not expecting anything but some info on the opening of PP and the tours, only to hear Tyka casually mention that she'd known for two years that he was dying. Every time I think the pain is subsiding.. Something else. I just can't anymore. He's gone. I can't bring him back. To be honest I'd rather hear nothing else.. I can't deal with the roller coaster. [Edited 10/5/16 20:11pm]

hug You are most certainly worthy. nod pat Today they dropped a bomb on us. I was avoiding the video but in twitter a comment caught my eye and now I'm in utter shock and heartbreak. I completely commiserate hun, I can't anymore either. I too thought I was getting...better with handling this but holy #$%@ apparently not even close. Crying all damn day - on the bus, in subway, at work Like a loser disbelief This griefcoaster is too much sad I'm sorry to say that I'm glad we can relate as it just isn't nice knowing more of us are in pain, but we truly are in this together. Hopefully we can find some comfort in knowing we're not alone grouphug

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Reply #43 posted 10/05/16 8:26pm

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ac4luv said:

sonshine said:
yeahthat
I was crying when I seen hand written notes and then Tyka bombshell I am a mess. I was just accepting Prince not being here and playing his music bringing me joy. But I am sooooo sad tonight?

hug Sorry sweets. It's definitely a down day on the coaster sad

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Reply #44 posted 10/05/16 8:43pm

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sonshine said:

Mumio said:

You've all seen this, right:
http://www.etonline.com/n...two_years/

No specifics of course....but yes, they knew. Just like many have been saying.

OMG!!! bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl I really feel like she's referring to his substance abuse issue. We have had friends and acquaintances who struggled with and eventually less their battles with addicting and their family members all said something similar. This is heartbreaking all over again

I agree. That's exactly what I thought when she said that. His substance abuse leading to something happening. Remember, one of the family stated after his death (don't remember who off hand) that they tried to get him help and there was record of it. Could be wrong but like you that is what I thought.

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Reply #45 posted 10/05/16 8:52pm

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my god! when will it end!?

i've been crying and speechless for an hour after watching the ET inteview.

i suspected there was an underlying/secondary cause of death and tyka's comments seem to confirm it. doesn't explain why they have allowed all the bullshit and speculation. they seem completely unbothered by it.

ties my head in knots.

just like p let all the stuff go on and on about amir when all he had to do is issue a simple statement- WTH!!!!

what is the benefit to handling things in this manner?

my heart aches again and i love him more.

forgive me, i'm rambling.

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Reply #46 posted 10/05/16 9:18pm

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Reply #47 posted 10/05/16 9:27pm

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We all heard Tyka say she's known for 2 years, but I think we all interpert it differently. She said that 2 years ago, Prince said that he felt his job on earth is finished. I didn't take it to mean that he was ill and was dying.

It bothers me that she said it didn't bother her when she got the phone call.

On the today show she said something different.

All I know is we lost a musical genius and without Prince, the world will never be the same. He had magic in him. I truly hope that before he died, he really knew how the world loved him. I think he knew he was loved by his fans but I don't think he knew what an impact his death made all across the world. It tears me up.

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Reply #48 posted 10/05/16 9:34pm

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laurarichardson said:

Gadotou said:


Yup, going through another dip in the grief rollercoaster myself. The activity related to the October events called up some sadness in me but I kept it together today. Tonight though? With the news about Tyka saying Prince knew he was leaving us soon? All bets are off cry




hug for ForeverPaisley and grouphug for all of us


-// It broke my heart when she said it but I believed all along he knew he was dying. I expect the next few days are going to rough as more details come out.

Laura, I hope your right. closure will be easier cry. I'm a mess today too. I was supposed to catch a plane to Minneapolis tomorrow morning. It's just really sinking in that im not going. I have not been able to watch the Tyka/ PP segment yet. I acted to quickly in canceling my travel.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #49 posted 10/05/16 9:38pm

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PennyPurple said:

We all heard Tyka say she's known for 2 years, but I think we all interpert it differently. She said that 2 years ago, Prince said that he felt his job on earth is finished. I didn't take it to mean that he was ill and was dying.


It bothers me that she said it didn't bother her when she got the phone call.



On the today show she said something different.



All I know is we lost a musical genius and without Prince, the world will never be the same. He had magic in him. I truly hope that before he died, he really knew how the world loved him. I think he knew he was loved by his fans but I don't think he knew what an impact his death made all across the world. It tears me up.


The second interview was definitely weird. But I imagine her world has been crazy since April 21 with emotions all over the place.
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Reply #50 posted 10/05/16 9:38pm

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PennyPurple said:

We all heard Tyka say she's known for 2 years, but I think we all interpert it differently. She said that 2 years ago, Prince said that he felt his job on earth is finished. I didn't take it to mean that he was ill and was dying.

It bothers me that she said it didn't bother her when she got the phone call.

On the today show she said something different.

r u referring to her comment that "it's not hard because he's here."?

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Reply #51 posted 10/05/16 10:01pm

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wavesofbliss said:

PennyPurple said:

We all heard Tyka say she's known for 2 years, but I think we all interpert it differently. She said that 2 years ago, Prince said that he felt his job on earth is finished. I didn't take it to mean that he was ill and was dying.

It bothers me that she said it didn't bother her when she got the phone call.

On the today show she said something different.

r u referring to her comment that "it's not hard because he's here."?

No, this is what Tyka said on ET:

Prince's tragic death shocked the world earlier this year, but the musician's sister, Tyka Nelson, told ET she expected it.

"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."

According to Nelson, Prince hinted to her that his life was winding down.

"He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,'" she recalled. "I was crushed for about two years."


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Reply #52 posted 10/05/16 10:15pm

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The minute I got some way quiet time to myself to think. sad
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Reply #53 posted 10/05/16 10:39pm

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rogifan said:

sonshine said:
OMG!!! bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl I really feel like she's referring to his substance abuse issue. We have had friends and acquaintances who struggled with and eventually less their battles with addicting and their family members all said something similar. This is heartbreaking all over again
She said she's had two years to prepare for it but what was IT? Seems a bit odd that she would say she's had two years to prepare for him overdosing on painkillers. Her comments came across to me more like a terminal illness or something. But we'll probably never know. sad

This was my first reaction to hearing this... We still don't know any more than we did before. Tyka just left everyone hanging with hints cloaked in more mystery. Why not just come out and say what IT is and be done with it. For myself, I'm done speculating.

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Reply #54 posted 10/05/16 11:06pm

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if she has known all this time why wouldn't she tell andre? in the podcast interview andre said he had as many questions as everyone else. hell lenny and sheila both implied they already knew what happened but no one mentioned it to andre before his interview last week? andre seems like a straight shooter, if he had been aware the prince felt his time was ending or that tykas was expecting that kind of phone call, he would've said it in that interview or at least said, 'i don't want to comment' or whatever.

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Reply #55 posted 10/05/16 11:40pm

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rogifan said:

babynoz said:



rogifan said:


sonshine said:
OMG!!! bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl I really feel like she's referring to his substance abuse issue. We have had friends and acquaintances who struggled with and eventually less their battles with addicting and their family members all said something similar. This is heartbreaking all over again

She said she's had two years to prepare for it but what was IT? Seems a bit odd that she would say she's had two years to prepare for him overdosing on painkillers. Her comments came across to me more like a terminal illness or something. But we'll probably never know. sad



A lot of what he said and did in the past year makes sense now.


Reminds me of this, which he said at one of his UK shows in 2014.

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Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #56 posted 10/06/16 12:16am

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purplethunder3121 said:

rogifan said:

sonshine said: She said she's had two years to prepare for it but what was IT? Seems a bit odd that she would say she's had two years to prepare for him overdosing on painkillers. Her comments came across to me more like a terminal illness or something. But we'll probably never know. sad

This was my first reaction to hearing this... We still don't know any more than we did before. Tyka just left everyone hanging with hints cloaked in more mystery. Why not just come out and say what IT is and be done with it. For myself, I'm done speculating.

Yeah, this just doesn't help at all, it can be interpreted in so many ways.... They don't have to tell us what the underlying condition was if there was one, they could just tell us that there was one...that would be enough. Otherwise it could still be interpreted to mean she knew his addiction would end this way as his comment could have meant that he wasn't intending to fight it...and that's possible. I just wish they'd clarify...frankly, this feels kind of cruel, but I'm sure its not intended this way. Man, the Nelsons have some serious aversion to straight-talking....

Hugs to you all, this is hard sad grouphug

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Reply #57 posted 10/06/16 12:54am

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Just seeing those lyrics on that stand was enough to make me cry my eyes out. For my wellbeing I am now resigned to the fact that we will never know the truth, every time something gets said, like Tyka's comment yesterday about knowing for two years, it's just heartbreak again and I for one can't keep doing it :bawl:

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Reply #58 posted 10/06/16 2:20am

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I would prefer that nothing had been said rather than something be half said.

For me Tyka's statement could be the result of two things:

1. He didn't tell her the specifics. I didn't know him but he was known to talk in riddles on occasion so I could imagine him saying something like that and not elaborating further. And I can also imagine that he was the sort of person who was unlikely to be pushed into telling more than he wanted to. In which case she could have merely relayed all she was told by him.

2. There is more to this than Tyka is saying but its been deliberately released in this way and at this specific time. Its clear that a statement that opens up more questions than it answers will result in speculation like this which in turn generates more publicity as the doors to PP are opened.

My heart would like it to be the former, my head and common sense tells me its the latter or at best a combination of the two.

The problem I have is that its sending the fan base into a spin again. People were just trying to come to terms with things and now a statement like this throws up so many more questions.

1. Was it an underlying terminal illness afterall? That makes far more sense now and it would explain the meds. At the end of the day, I doubt you'd much care about the risk of over medicating if you knew your days were numbered anyway, you'd just do whatever it took to manage the pain.

2. Was he actually a long term addict and knew this was coming eventually because he had no desire to seek treatment?

3. Did he just decide he was done, and bowed out on his own terms?

Again, I didn't know him, but the latter two don't seem to completely stack up for me whereas the first seems to make more sense. I believe he wouldn't have cared a jot about making a Will, he'd have left everyone else to squabble over money afterwards, but he did care about PP being a museum and the fact that emails and detailed instructions have been found dating back 4 months prior to April 21 means he was planning in advance of his exit.

I really just wish it had been left alone. If we are never to know the full facts, if this is to be forever shrouded in mystery then just leave it alone so people can come to terms with it in their own way. If the facts are to become known then just come out with it now!

Or is this the new reality....is this how it will eventually be divulged, snippets delivered via cryptic interviews every few months or so......whenever there is a need to whip up some new level of publicity? So sad.

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ForeverPaisley said:



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
OMG!!! bawl bawl bawl bawl bawl I really feel like she's referring to his substance abuse issue. We have had friends and acquaintances who struggled with and eventually less their battles with addicting and their family members all said something similar. This is heartbreaking all over again

--- Let it go. He was in withdrawals from the meds failing at it and suppose to go to a rehab the next day. Drugs were not his only issue. Who would be in a hurry to get to rehab if something was killing you. There was a rumor two years ago that he was in the hospital for Sepsis and KJ said in the search warrant that in was in the hospital for treatments.

eek . You just ooze compassion. How lucky for your friends and family members. disbelief Please leave your negative judgements at the door. To walk into a thread that clearly is about people who are having a tough time right now in light of everything, and stomp on their...our feelings, is gross. Please troll elsewhere. We officially revoke your unsolicited invitation and banish your unfriendly input.


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Forums > Prince: Music and More > The floodgates have re-opened.