I know everyone is excited about pp, I was looking forward to a visit as well..but I was stopped in my tracks when I saw his instruments, his drums, his guitar all worn by so much playing, his handwritten notes brought tears..it just got to me..frozen in time, waiting for their owner..that's just watching TV. I would be a blubbering mess if I went to visit..I guess I'm not ready..Thank God I have Orgers to turn to

ForeverPaisley said:

I find it hard to understand why people would think he had prepared Tyka for his death from substance abuse two years in advance. You don't really expect her to detail everything he said to her do you? Does every detail really have to be spelled out for the public? Has she not said enough? Some people are really fixated on this drug addict theory. Can it be left alone now?

"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."

Geez. What the hell kind of statement is that? Either elaborate or shut up. With statements like this she's opening up all kinds of speculations. Saying something, but at the same time saying nothing at all.

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sunset3121 said:

I find it hard to understand why people would think he had prepared Tyka for his death from substance abuse two years in advance. You don't really expect her to detail everything he said to her do you? Does every detail really have to be spelled out for the public? Has she not said enough? Some people are really fixated on this drug addict theory. Can it be left alone now?

No, because he died of an accidental overdose of fentanyl, and many of us want to understand why, and whether and in what what it may have been related to an underlying health condition, or whether it was simply the result of an addiction, and whether, therefore, his death could have been prevented or not if he had got appropriate help.

what caught my attention was where she supposedly said they're gonna pull stuff out of the vault and remix it. Pull it out, sure, release it sure, remix it, no thanks!

PatrickS77 said:

"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."

Geez. What the hell kind of statement is that? Either elaborate or shut up. With statements like this she's opening up all kinds of speculations. Saying something, but at the same time saying nothing at all.

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I know she says she feels for the fact that people are hurting, but this kind of vague gesturing at something vaguely but still just enough to make it clear its something only makes it so much worse. If there was an underlying condition, and he made it clear he wanted it concealed, then conceal it. If there wasn't, then just tell us there wasn't and don't make statements that make us think there was or might have been. GAH.

jayseajay said:

PatrickS77 said:

"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."

Geez. What the hell kind of statement is that? Either elaborate or shut up. With statements like this she's opening up all kinds of speculations. Saying something, but at the same time saying nothing at all.

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I can think of someone else who used to do that sort of thing, though.

jayseajay said:

PatrickS77 said:

"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."

Geez. What the hell kind of statement is that? Either elaborate or shut up. With statements like this she's opening up all kinds of speculations. Saying something, but at the same time saying nothing at all.

[Edited 10/6/16 3:36am]

I know she says she feels for the fact that people are hurting, but this kind of vague gesturing at something vaguely but still just enough to make it clear its something only makes it so much worse. If there was an underlying condition, and he made it clear he wanted it concealed, then conceal it. If there wasn't, then just tell us there wasn't and don't make statements that make us think there was or might have been. GAH.

My guess is that she would have liked to keep quiet but all the conspiracy theories (especially the ones that look at where the money is going) and all the comments about the family reaction together with the drug addict assumptions have pushed her into saying something. It's not going to be enough for everyone until they have every last detail though. I hope she leaves it at that now. People will believe what they want to believe anyway.

sunset3121 said:

I find it hard to understand why people would think he had prepared Tyka for his death from substance abuse two years in advance. You don't really expect her to detail everything he said to her do you? Does every detail really have to be spelled out for the public? Has she not said enough? Some people are really fixated on this drug addict theory. Can it be left alone now?

I do not know what is wrong with them either? People really do need to have everything spelled out for them at least a dozen people who knew him have said " We don't know the whole story" It is obvious that something else was going on with him. At this point if his medical file fell from the sky and hit people in the head they would still not believe it. Even extreme joint pain is an illness.

jayseajay said:

sunset3121 said:

I find it hard to understand why people would think he had prepared Tyka for his death from substance abuse two years in advance. You don't really expect her to detail everything he said to her do you? Does every detail really have to be spelled out for the public? Has she not said enough? Some people are really fixated on this drug addict theory. Can it be left alone now?

No, because he died of an accidental overdose of fentanyl, and many of us want to understand why, and whether and in what what it may have been related to an underlying health condition, or whether it was simply the result of an addiction, and whether, therefore, his death could have been prevented or not if he had got appropriate help.

Because he was taking meds without an Rx and got a bad batch of pills. Does not mean he was not hurting from other health issues.

wavesofbliss said:

if she has known all this time why wouldn't she tell andre? in the podcast interview andre said he had as many questions as everyone else. hell lenny and sheila both implied they already knew what happened but no one mentioned it to andre before his interview last week? andre seems like a straight shooter, if he had been aware the prince felt his time was ending or that tykas was expecting that kind of phone call, he would've said it in that interview or at least said, 'i don't want to comment' or whatever.

Andre could not even get his messages directly to Prince. He also said that Prince told him about joint pain but he just believed he was in good shape and did not think much of it. I think Prince only wanted a few people to know. Just think if his ex's knew about this they would have been falling apart at the seems and he would have had to deal with a pity party. Maybe he just wanted to avoid all of that.

sunset3121 said:

jayseajay said:

I know she says she feels for the fact that people are hurting, but this kind of vague gesturing at something vaguely but still just enough to make it clear its something only makes it so much worse. If there was an underlying condition, and he made it clear he wanted it concealed, then conceal it. If there wasn't, then just tell us there wasn't and don't make statements that make us think there was or might have been. GAH.

My guess is that she would have liked to keep quiet but all the conspiracy theories (especially the ones that look at where the money is going) and all the comments about the family reaction together with the drug addict assumptions have pushed her into saying something. It's not going to be enough for everyone until they have every last detail though. I hope she leaves it at that now. People will believe what they want to believe anyway.

It's not a request for every last detail though. It's a desire to know whether he died as a result of an addiction or whether there was an underlying terminal health condition, because in one case his early death was inevitable and in the other it wasn't, and that has a big impact on how people come to terms with it. Given how confounding the situation has been it has obviously created a lot of speculation (and consipracy theories). I for one wouldn't need to know anything about what it was, but I would really like to know if there was something or not, because then I can stop being so damn upset that he didn't get the help he needed.

sunset3121 said:

I find it hard to understand why people would think he had prepared Tyka for his death from substance abuse two years in advance. You don't really expect her to detail everything he said to her do you? Does every detail really have to be spelled out for the public? Has she not said enough? Some people are really fixated on this drug addict theory. Can it be left alone now?

sunset3121 said:

My guess is that she would have liked to keep quiet but all the conspiracy theories (especially the ones that look at where the money is going) and all the comments about the family reaction together with the drug addict assumptions have pushed her into saying something. It's not going to be enough for everyone until they have every last detail though. I hope she leaves it at that now. People will believe what they want to believe anyway.

Very good posts sunset3121, pretty much every word. Thanks.

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Since his immediate cause of death was attributed to Fentanyl, here we go on the conjecture. It is not going to be pretty. Again.

sunset3121 said:

My guess is that she would have liked to keep quiet but all the conspiracy theories (especially the ones that look at where the money is going) and all the comments about the family reaction together with the drug addict assumptions have pushed her into saying something. It's not going to be enough for everyone until they have every last detail though. I hope she leaves it at that now. People will believe what they want to believe anyway.

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I think your last statement above is very true.

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But I will say, Tyka could've chosen to keep quiet rather than being cryptic. Taken at face value, her comments manage to have a huge impact emotionally - without actually telling us very much at all.

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I don't agree with the "leaving it that" - or that it's really a matter of knowing "every last detail," necessarily. I think since she broached the topic in such headline-grabbing terms, at that point she should clarify/elaborate on what she meant. I'm all for privacy - but once you break your silence and are splashed on websites and news reports, it's important to follow through with something of substance. Otherwise, just don't say anything at all.

laurarichardson said:

jayseajay said:

No, because he died of an accidental overdose of fentanyl, and many of us want to understand why, and whether and in what what it may have been related to an underlying health condition, or whether it was simply the result of an addiction, and whether, therefore, his death could have been prevented or not if he had got appropriate help.

Because he was taking meds without an Rx and got a bad batch of pills. Does not mean he was not hurting from other health issues.

Even though my thoughts have changed a bit I still remember what my friend said about this.

CAL3 said:

sunset3121 said:

My guess is that she would have liked to keep quiet but all the conspiracy theories (especially the ones that look at where the money is going) and all the comments about the family reaction together with the drug addict assumptions have pushed her into saying something. It's not going to be enough for everyone until they have every last detail though. I hope she leaves it at that now. People will believe what they want to believe anyway.

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I think your last statement above is very true.

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But I will say, Tyka could've chosen to keep quiet rather than being cryptic. Taken at face value, her comments manage to have a huge impact emotionally - without actually telling us very much at all.

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I don't agree with the "leaving it that" - or that it's really a matter of knowing "every last detail," necessarily. I think since she broached the topic in such headline-grabbing terms, at that point she should clarify/elaborate on what she meant. I'm all for privacy - but once you break your silence and are splashed on websites and news reports, it's important to follow through with something of substance. Otherwise, just don't say anything at all.

Exactly, say something, or say nothing. Half-saying something is the worst of both worlds.

ForeverPaisley said:

I have been a wreck all day. Yesterda reading 'their' plan, in their mad scramble to dampen the wrath of the purple army after the announcement of no PP tours, then only on the 6, 8 & 14...to put Prince 'artifacts' on display at the GD MOA. That didn't sit right with me at all. Am I the only one? The idea that they're reducing him to objects as if that's what were why/what we are/were going to PP for. And I also wish they would stop and think What Would Prince Do/want - because while I didn't know him PERSONALLY I'd be willing to wager he sure AF wouldn'tw any his things carted around Minneapolis and put on display in a mall. But maybe that's just me

Today, with the clips, images and quotes of the Today show interview... I find myself absolutely gutted all over again. The images of the way they have things set up ... Just sent a dagger of heartache. It really was reality kicking me in the shin with cleats! He's. Gone.

And no, I haven't been in denial this whole time. I actually thought I was making some progress, not crying as often as before. But today I can't seem to keep it together.

Guitarhero said:

ForeverPaisley said:

I have been a wreck all day. Yesterda reading 'their' plan, in their mad scramble to dampen the wrath of the purple army after the announcement of no PP tours, then only on the 6, 8 & 14...to put Prince 'artifacts' on display at the GD MOA. That didn't sit right with me at all. Am I the only one? The idea that they're reducing him to objects as if that's what were why/what we are/were going to PP for. And I also wish they would stop and think What Would Prince Do/want - because while I didn't know him PERSONALLY I'd be willing to wager he sure AF wouldn'tw any his things carted around Minneapolis and put on display in a mall. But maybe that's just me

Today, with the clips, images and quotes of the Today show interview... I find myself absolutely gutted all over again. The images of the way they have things set up ... Just sent a dagger of heartache. It really was reality kicking me in the shin with cleats! He's. Gone.

And no, I haven't been in denial this whole time. I actually thought I was making some progress, not crying as often as before. But today I can't seem to keep it together.

Its breaking my heart as well..I was excited to go, but now I'm not sure I could handle it without being a puddle of tears.

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ldmendes said:

Guitarhero said:

Its breaking my heart as well..I was excited to go, but now I'm not sure I could handle it without being a puddle of tears.

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I hope you ain't going on your own , you need the purple fam with you.

Guitarhero said:

ldmendes said:

Its breaking my heart as well..I was excited to go, but now I'm not sure I could handle it without being a puddle of tears.

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I hope you ain't going on your own , you need the purple fam with you.

absolutely! Maybe they have fam escorts for us who might lose it!

muleFunk said:

laurarichardson said:

Because he was taking meds without an Rx and got a bad batch of pills. Does not mean he was not hurting from other health issues.

Even though my thoughts have changed a bit I still remember what my friend said about this.

which part of what ur friend said? cancer of esaphogus?(sp) how have ur thougths changed?

Crying today. More letting go and coming to terms with reality.

purplepoppy said:

Crying today. More letting go and coming to terms with reality.

amen. it seems like grief is a cyclical process for me.

Gadotou said:

wavesofbliss said:

muleFunk said:

Even though my thoughts have changed a bit I still remember what my friend said about this.

which part of what ur friend said? cancer of esaphogus?(sp) how have ur thougths changed?

Acute myeloid leukemia .

Counterfeit pills, found in elevator OD with clothes on backward, the lack of PR 30 being released although WB had the material for release, no will, cremation so quick after death with no memorial.

muleFunk said:

wavesofbliss said:

which part of what ur friend said? cancer of esaphogus?(sp) how have ur thougths changed?

Acute myeloid leukemia .

Counterfeit pills, found in elevator OD with clothes on backward, the lack of PR 30 being released although WB had the material for release, no will, cremation so quick after death with no memorial.

sudden onset leukemia. sure, the symptoms are there. still can't make sense of her statement.

laurarichardson said:

ForeverPaisley said:

. You just ooze compassion. How lucky for your friends and family members. Please leave your negative judgements at the door. To walk into a thread that clearly is about people who are having a tough time right now in light of everything, and stomp on their...our feelings, is gross. Please troll elsewhere. We officially revoke your unsolicited invitation and banish your unfriendly input.

P.S. Please do not harsh on my fam!

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// I am not saying anything negative. I feel sorry for you if you think the truth is negative as this is something I wanted to be wrong about and I have said that from the begining.

I'm specifically referring to telling someone who is upset and/or grieving to Let It Go.