What if Prince is truly happy and content and this is the reason we are not hearing from him? We've most likely heard before that an artist's pain produces the most beautiful works of art. We know that in the past Prince's pain has produced some great masterpieces.
So, if this is the case would U rather Prince be happy or be living in the pain that will produce more music?
As much as i miss and love his music, i'd have to wish that Prince is happy. He's given me much enjoyment through his music. No one can take that from me. If we could choose his fate, which would it be?

Why does he have to be in pain to produce music?

e-flippin-nuff with these depressin threads, awready.

Prince has almost always been happy. He is just about the only celebrity not to break down and always show a smiling face. Also, I don't think the death of his son was very musically inspirational.

gainsbourg said:

(john cleese voice) go away, you silly man.

What's silly about that?

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Sorry Handclapsfingasnapz, i don't want to depress anyone. It's just that i was reminded of this last nite while i watched the Joni Mitchell story. She explicitly described the process for her and how her best music was written through her worst pain. She said something like...it's was pain that produced the 'pearl.'

gainsbourg said:

You have no real idea if that is true or not.Right - almost every celebrity breaks down!!!Yeah - that infamous and permanent smile that he always shows and everyone thinks of instantly when they think about Prince?

It isn't that I contradict everything, Gainsbourg. It's just you somehow manage to make statements with such conviction which simply don't stand up to scrutiny.

Langebleu - Please don't start with me.

"The only time you can get tranquil is when you are at one. And the only time that happens is when you are with God I do that sometimes. When I'm like that I'm not happy. He tells me to carry on doing what I'm doing, which is my music. I'm always happy I'm never sad I never slow down. I'm constantly occupied with music."

(http://princetext.tripod.com/i_nme95.html)

Yes, every celebrity has big problems at some time!!Michael Jackson, Sly Stone, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown - whoever!!

I don't mean, literally smiling, you idiot!! I mean he never looks depressed and always presents himself well.

I really suggest you stop taking everything, everyone says literally. I know you need this to make yourself feel better, but it's retarded. OK??

NEVER LET IT BE SAID THAT LANGEBLEU IS A TROUBLE-MAKING TOSSER!!




It is one of the most excruciatingly embarrassing pieces of fake musical junk he has decided to write and then release.


gainsbourg said:
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Prince has almost always been happy.
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You have no real idea if that is true or not.
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He is just about the only celebrity not to break down
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Right - almost every celebrity breaks down!!!
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and always show a smiling face.
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Yeah - that infamous and permanent smile that he always shows and everyone thinks of instantly when they think about Prince?

It isn't that I contradict everything, Gainsbourg. It's just you somehow manage to make statements with such conviction which simply don't stand up to scrutiny.

Well, thank you. I explain to you that there is a book that provides at least one very good argument why humans (and all other creatures) act with self-interest despite the fact that sometimes those actions might be self-destructive to the self-same individuals. I also explain that the arguments put forward in the book are not of the 'circular' type you described as invalid.

You then admit to not even knowing the book - but you can miraculously claim that you expect (regardless of my explanation to the contrary) that the book depends upon circular, and therefore, invalid reasoning.

I don't expect you to believe me (you can read reviews on amazon.com, you can even read 14 pages for free!), but if the strength of your argument is ... "if the book says something that I don't believe, then that book is bound to contain circular arguments, and therefore it's wrong" ... then you are not even willing to put your argument to the test. The logic also has an uncanny sense of circularity to it.

Do you conduct all of your arguments by simply ignoring contrary evidence or dismissing it using such weak logic?

That seems a very self-interested approach to life.
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Oh stop it!! Next you're gonna say that Prince really wrote and produced the 'Thriller' album for MJ
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And they had a relationship for 15 years and slept together too ... nah, not even Gainsbourg would think... well, I don't know

gainsbourg said:
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Langebleu, I really think you need to chill out.
I was making the point that Prince went out with Madonna in the 80's and helped with a lot of her songs. FACT!!
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No it is not a FACT.

1. How many songs beyond the four songs that have been mentioned here (Love Song, which Prince co-wrote, and Act of Contrition, Keep It Together and Like A Prayer, where Prince's guitar work features) can you name that proves for a fact that Prince helped with a lot of her songs. Please provide categoric proof to support your claim that this is a FACT or stop speaking inaccurately.

2. You stated:
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During the period 1989-1990???

Everyone knows they were dating during this period
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You were not making the general point that Prince went out with Madonna in the '80s. Again, inaccurate.
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It is also completely plausible that he wrote songs for others we don't know about. To say "No, we'd find out" is idiotic.
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I never said that 'No, we'd find out', and I never denied it was plausible. I simply provided considerable evidence that demonstrated the plausibility of this was thin in the extreme, and showed your argument for what it was - feeble speculation, inaccurate, and poorly researched.
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There have been plenty of cases of songwriters not wanting their identity to be found out and succeding. eg. Michael Jackson, Paul Mcartney etc. FACT!!
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Plenty!!! You name 2 who failed because you know about them. And you can't name anymore, can you? Please explain what you mean by the word 'plenty' and prove it as a FACT. You can't.
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Sheila E is a perfect example of this - the credits read "Written and Produced by Sheila E" which is untrue.
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This is not a perfect example. Firstly, people already suspected that:

1. The Starr Company,credited on the album. was Prince.
2. You can hear Prince on the album even though he is nowhere credited on the liner notes.

With these suspicions of undisclosed Prince involvement, the researcher simply

3. Undertakes a search at the Library of Congress and discovers that Prince wrote the songs
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.This could easily be the case with Madonna - Prince obviously doesn't mind giving other people credit for his work.
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So I do a search against 'Like A Prayer' and discover that it doesn't say Madonna is a pseudonym for Prince. Prince doesn't 'obviously' do anything in this respect - that's just you making an assumption to give credence to your weak theory.
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A quick check with the Library of congress reveals nothing of the sort (I claimed it revealed who wrote Shiela's first album - langebleu).If prince wanted to give Sheila the credit - why would he have done it in a half-hearted way?FACT!!
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Let's do a simple search then: Go to the Library of Congress website and type in the words 'glamorous life' next to 'title' - select the obvious candidates and we get:

1. Registration Number: PA-225-841
Title: The Belle of Saint Mark.
Note: Performed by Sheila E.Sheila E..
In: The Glamorous life. mW B Records 1-25107, c1984. 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 1, band 1
Claimant: Girlsongs
Created: 1984
Published: 4Jun84
Registered: 13Aug84
Author on © Application: words & music: Jamie Starr

2. Registration Number: PA-225-842
Title: Shortberry strawcake.
Note: Performed by Sheila E.Sheila E..
In: The Glamorous life. mW B Records 1-25107, c1984. 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 1, band 2
Claimant: Girlsongs
Created: 1984
Published: 4Jun84
Registered: 13Aug84
Author on © Application: music: Jamie Starr

3. Registration Number: PA-225-843
Title: Noon rendezvous.
Note: Performed by Sheila E.
In: The Glamorous life. mW B Records 1-25107, c1984. 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 1, band 3
Claimant: Girlsongs & acSheila Escovedo
Created: 1984
Published: 4Jun84
Registered: 13Aug84
Author on © Application: words & music: Jamie Starr , & Sheila Escovedo (p.k.a. Sheila E.)

4. Registration Number: PA-225-844
Title: Oliver's house.
Note: Performed by Sheila E.Sheila E..
In: The Glamorous life. mW B Records 1-25107, c1984. 1 sound disc :33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 2, band 1
Claimant: Girlsongs
Created: 1984
Published: 4Jun84
Registered: 13Aug84
Author on © Application: words & music: Jamie Starr

5. Registration Number: PA-225-845
Title: Next time wipe the lipstick off your collar.
Note: Performed by Sheila E.Sheila E..
In: The Glamorous life. mW B Records 1-25107, c1984. 1 sound disc: 33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 2, band 2
Claimant: Girlsongs
Created: 1984
Published: 4Jun84
Registered: 13Aug84
Author on © Application: words & music: Jamie Starr

6. Registration Number: PA-225-846
Title: The Glamorous life.
Note: Performed by Sheila E.Sheila E..
In: The Glamorous life. mW B Records 1-25107, c1984. 1 sound disc:33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 2, band 3
Claimant: Girlsongs
Created: 1984
Published: 4Jun84
Registered: 13Aug84
Author on © Application: words & music: Jamie Starr

That simple! Shiela E didn't write all those songs as was claimed. It was some guy named Jamie Starr - who is revealed on the Library of Congress database as being a pseudonym for Prince Rogers Nelson.
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The Pope IS a nickname for Prince. Various associates have referred to him at some stage.
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I didn't say it wasn't a nickname, but I'd be delighted if you could produce the evidence of 'various associates' who referred to him using this name.
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Are you not aware of the song on The Hits 2? FACT!!
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Of course I'm aware of it - so what???

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I would say the fact that someone as talentless and obscure as Ingrid Chavez wrote the lyrics to one of Madonna's biggest hits (Uncredited as it happens) means there is a fairly strong connection between Prince and that record.FACT!!
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This is completely laughable.

Your logic is all over the place. You're hanging by your finger nails to the thread of a theory. And now you dream up another example.

The collaboration (and the subsequent disagreement) was originally with Lenny Kravitz. How Lenny and Ingrid came to work together has not, as far as I'm aware been documented. It's quite possible it was because Ingrid met Lenny through Prince. There's nothing to show otherwise, and evidence to suggest, that Kravitz then collaborated with Madonna, but Ingrid's contribution to the lyrics was not made clear either at that stage or sometime later. If this were to be the case, the link between Prince and Madonna is therefore weak.

In any event, just because someone is not well known and even talentless (in your opinion) doesn't mean they can't write lyrics which end up on a best-selling single of a major artist (without the assistance of their 'mentor', in this case, Prince). Sometimes shit words by talentless no-hopers make them a fortune: gainsbourg, keep writing - this stuff could make you a millionaire.
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gainsbourg said:
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I thought it did!!
I thought if I missed out one day, I'd have a curse put on me or something
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I'm pretty sure that if you decided not to post on here for a day, no harm would come to you as a result.

Better still, if you made it a week, or a month, or even a year, it would more than likely result in people bestowing upon you the general blessing of a decision well made.


YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF LANGEBLEU'S EASy-GOING SIDE

Ahhh I feel so good now.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

YEP EEENUFF...It's just around the corner...

I think also he wrote the most beautiful stuff when he was in love with Mayte and Susannah.