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Thread started 09/20/16 10:22am

ufoclub

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So Prince supposedly remade "Like a Prayer" "Angie" and "Bad"

I think these are probably the three biggest outtakes I want to hear right now.

Anyone have quotes or links to info about any of these?



And why would Prince call someone else (other than himself) Camille as reported by Quincy Jones himself... who was there?

[Edited 9/20/16 10:57am]

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Reply #1 posted 09/20/16 10:25am

paulludvig

ufoclub said:

I think these are probably the three biggest outtakes I want to hear right now.


Anyone have quotes or links to info about any of these?





And why would Prince call someone else (other than himself) Camille as reported by Quincy Jones himself... who was there?



I don't get the last part about Camille?
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Reply #2 posted 09/20/16 10:32am

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^ Acording to Quincy Jones, Prince talked to a well known pop star we're not allowed to talk about here. While talking to this person Prince repeatedly called them "Camillie" in what seemed to be a derogatory way.

But as we know Prince had his own character by the name Camille. And an album. So it's an odd little story.

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Reply #3 posted 09/20/16 10:50am

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ufoclub said:

I think these are probably the three biggest outtakes I want to hear right now.


Anyone have quotes or links to info about any of these?





And why would Prince call someone else (other than himself) Camille as reported by Quincy Jones himself... who was there?


He was taking a dig at Mike. What was Camille suppose to be?
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Reply #4 posted 09/20/16 10:57am

ufoclub

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laurarichardson said:

ufoclub said:

I think these are probably the three biggest outtakes I want to hear right now.

Anyone have quotes or links to info about any of these?



And why would Prince call someone else (other than himself) Camille as reported by Quincy Jones himself... who was there?

He was taking a dig at Mike. What was Camille suppose to be?

Camille is Prince's admitted and publicized alter ego with pitched up vocals, credited as lead singer on tracks released on SOTT as well as the b-side "Scarlet Pussy". is that what you meant to ask?

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Reply #5 posted 09/20/16 11:03am

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laurarichardson said:

ufoclub said:

I think these are probably the three biggest outtakes I want to hear right now.

Anyone have quotes or links to info about any of these?



And why would Prince call someone else (other than himself) Camille as reported by Quincy Jones himself... who was there?

He was taking a dig at Mike. What was Camille suppose to be?

Oooh, you better edit that out or this thread will be moved to a certain sticky. Mustn't reference the other guy, even if we're specifically talking about Prince.

I'd be really interested in hearing P versions of these songs, especially Bad. What's the source for him having a version of Like a Prayer?

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Reply #6 posted 09/20/16 11:16am

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Prince calling MJ 'Camille' was probably a bit of fun, but might have had some meaning.

If you remember, Camille morphed from a female character in 86 to a male character or mindset by 88. The male Camille fell into the trap of trying to be more 'street'.

Maybe Prince had seen the massive success of the Bad LP in Summer 87, where Michael went significantly 'white pop" and referenced MJ as a Camille character that had "succumbed" to Spooky Electric.

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Reply #7 posted 09/20/16 11:20am

Purpleone4Eva

Careful. Mention MJ too much even when related directly to Prince, and this thread will be locked and you'll be directed to take this discussion to the single MJ thread. rolleyes

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Reply #8 posted 09/20/16 11:53am

ufoclub

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I know in 2005 an orger named NouveauDance mentioned a cover of Like a Prayer.

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Reply #9 posted 09/20/16 12:02pm

Noodled24

SquirrelMeat said:

Prince calling MJ 'Camille' was probably a bit of fun, but might have had some meaning.

If you remember, Camille morphed from a female character in 86 to a male character or mindset by 88. The male Camille fell into the trap of trying to be more 'street'.

Maybe Prince had seen the massive success of the Bad LP in Summer 87, where Michael went significantly 'white pop" and referenced MJ as a Camille character that had "succumbed" to Spooky Electric.


Google says the name "Camille" means "helper to the priest"

There was a film from the 1930s called Camille "A Parisian courtesan must choose between the young man who loves her and the callous baron who wants her, even as her own health begins to fail." though according to IMDB there is no character by the name of Camille in the film (although I haven't watched it).

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Reply #10 posted 09/20/16 12:12pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

laurarichardson said:

ufoclub said: He was taking a dig at Mike. What was Camille suppose to be?

Oooh, you better edit that out or this thread will be moved to a certain sticky. Mustn't reference the other guy, even if we're specifically talking about Prince.

I'd be really interested in hearing P versions of these songs, especially Bad. What's the source for him having a version of Like a Prayer?

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I think it's kind of taken for granted that since he worked with Madonna on "Lovesong" he must have a cover version of LAP in the vaults somewhere. I'm not sure it was ever confirmed, though I could be wrong.

I think there was a lot of speculation and rumours that Prince was playing guitar on the song LAP? Or that he may have been more involved with the album than just co-writer of "Lovesong". Though I suspect if that were the case he'd have made it known by playing those songs live.

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Reply #11 posted 09/20/16 12:23pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Prince calling MJ 'Camille' was probably a bit of fun, but might have had some meaning.

If you remember, Camille morphed from a female character in 86 to a male character or mindset by 88. The male Camille fell into the trap of trying to be more 'street'.

Maybe Prince had seen the massive success of the Bad LP in Summer 87, where Michael went significantly 'white pop" and referenced MJ as a Camille character that had "succumbed" to Spooky Electric.



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Reply #12 posted 09/20/16 12:28pm

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We know Prince was a fan of The Rolling Stones . He once said he wished he had written "Miss You" and he's covered their songs live... and on "The Undertaker"

I am dying to hear his take on "Angie"

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Reply #13 posted 09/20/16 1:55pm

TheLotus

ufoclub said:

We know Prince was a fan of The Rolling Stones . He once said he wished he had written "Miss You" and he's covered their songs live... and on "The Undertaker"

I am dying to hear his take on "Angie"

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Me too. For some reason, I always wanted to hear Prince cover the Stones 'Beast of Burden'. I've always thought that would be something fantastic.

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But at the same time, that's almost in the category of most Prince songs. Leave it the hell alone because they're the only ones that should do it... I'm torn.

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Reply #14 posted 09/20/16 2:01pm

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I would love to hear those remakes too - Prince singing Like a Prayer and Bad - would be incredible.

Thank you Prince for every note you left behind 💜
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Reply #15 posted 09/20/16 2:22pm

gandorb

The irony of P doing Bad is that he, unlike the other artist, never needed a song like that to establish any cred.

I think it would be heaven to hear his falsetto on Angie.
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Reply #16 posted 09/20/16 4:20pm

Ingela

Well prince did do an official remix at the time of like a prayer with the "bob George" beat mixed in.
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Reply #17 posted 09/20/16 4:27pm

Dandroppedadim
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I believe Prince is playing on a few songs on the Like a Prayer album - Keep it Together, Act of Contriction and Like a Prayer (aswell as Love osng)

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Reply #18 posted 09/20/16 4:34pm

Wolfie87

I Heard BAD (the song) when I was eating today. Coincidence someone razz

Anyway, it's crazy how this took of as an song. Anyone else than MJ doing this would be considered a laughingstock. It's horribly dated and awful in it's own right. I really don't see how Prince would've improved it back then confused

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Reply #19 posted 09/20/16 5:06pm

Dandroppedadim
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Wolfie87 said:

I Heard BAD (the song) when I was eating today. Coincidence someone razz

Anyway, it's crazy how this took of as an song. Anyone else than MJ doing this would be considered a laughingstock. It's horribly dated and awful in it's own right. I really don't see how Prince would've improved it back then confused

it's probaby only a remix with maybe some Prince voclas added? only guessing though.

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Reply #20 posted 09/20/16 5:15pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

laurarichardson said:

ufoclub said: He was taking a dig at Mike. What was Camille suppose to be?

Oooh, you better edit that out or this thread will be moved to a certain sticky. Mustn't reference the other guy, even if we're specifically talking about Prince.

It's fucking sad the mods here are such giant boobs. Is that flaming? The fact this thread has the word 'Bad' in it alone will send them to blind lock status. Even if this is a Prince thread in context! lol

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #21 posted 09/20/16 5:20pm

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ufoclub said:

We know Prince was a fan of The Rolling Stones . He once said he wished he had written "Miss You" and he's covered their songs live... and on "The Undertaker"

I am dying to hear his take on "Angie"

I don't know. Most of his studio covers sucked. I was kind of disappointed when he started doing them to be honest. I loved the fact he didn't. Then 'Emancpation' came out. neutral

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #22 posted 09/20/16 5:25pm

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gandorb said:

The irony of P doing Bad is that he, unlike the other artist, never needed a song like that to establish any cred. I think it would be heaven to hear his falsetto on Angie.

The other artist had 'cred' way before Prince even signed to WB. Fact.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #23 posted 09/20/16 5:46pm

gandorb

Marrk said:

gandorb said:

The irony of P doing Bad is that he, unlike the other artist, never needed a song like that to establish any cred. I think it would be heaven to hear his falsetto on Angie.

The other artist had 'cred' way before Prince even signed to WB. Fact.

not "bad" cred

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Reply #24 posted 09/20/16 5:47pm

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Didn't he also rerecord the entire Joshua Tree album?

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Reply #25 posted 09/20/16 5:49pm

Marrk

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rap said:

Didn't he also rerecord the entire Joshua Tree album?

I heard he pissed on it and set it on fire after THAT Grammy awards.

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Reply #26 posted 09/20/16 5:59pm

Marrk

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gandorb said:

Marrk said:

The other artist had 'cred' way before Prince even signed to WB. Fact.

not "bad" cred

Being 'Bad' was 80s Shit Hop bollocks, so shame on him for getting drawn i suppose .His J5/Jacksons work had already secured his status before 'Off The Wall' sealed it. Then Prince was good enough to acknowledge that work by covering him post death. Good enough for him..

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Reply #27 posted 09/20/16 6:23pm

ufoclub

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Marrk said:

ufoclub said:

We know Prince was a fan of The Rolling Stones . He once said he wished he had written "Miss You" and he's covered their songs live... and on "The Undertaker"

I am dying to hear his take on "Angie"

I don't know. Most of his studio covers sucked. I was kind of disappointed when he started doing them to be honest. I loved the fact he didn't. Then 'Emancpation' came out. neutral

I know some of his covers are off kilter, but they are also so Prince. He chose to style them in ways to brand them, and I am curious how he would brand these three songs in his style.

Some of why I'm into Prince is not even because I like the music he came up with, but more about his technique and style, his concept to his defining his sound.

What's sad is I had to just go change some of that to past tense. neutral

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Reply #28 posted 09/20/16 6:28pm

Marrk

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ufoclub said:

Marrk said:

I don't know. Most of his studio covers sucked. I was kind of disappointed when he started doing them to be honest. I loved the fact he didn't. Then 'Emancpation' came out. neutral

I know some of his covers are off kilter, but they are also so Prince. He chose to style them in ways to brand them, and I am curious how he would brand these three songs in his style.

Some of why I'm into Prince is not even because I like the music he came up with, but more about his technique and style, his concept to his defining his sound.

What's sad is I had to just go change some of that to past tense. neutral

I'm feeling that. 'Sucked' was certainly too strong a word. I've had a day off today and been listening all evening/night to Prince. It's turned the 21st in the UK. My Mrs asked why i was down. I just said it was that time of the month.

confused

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Reply #29 posted 09/20/16 6:45pm

luvsexy4all

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Didn't he also rerecord the entire Joshua Tree album?

and he recorded a version of Pink Floyd's Meddle lp....

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