so, the first line is from another outtake 'we got the power', so that might help date it. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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Think about tunes written in or around 88 though. They were all pretty straightforward. The Batman stuff, Rave, If I Had A Harem, People Without..... all pretty basic. | |
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Not sure I agree. The Future and People Without are not basic. Both rather out of left field imo. The wooh is on the one! | |
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I get that stuff from this era has a certain sound to it, but basic? Hardly. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. | |
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When I think of 88, I think of Lovesexy, but I guess he did do plenty of straightforward stuff that year as well. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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How is it complex then? Maybe we just have different ways of describing things. There's nothing musically complex about The Future.... it has pretty much the same beat throughout the song with some synth flourishes on top. Very little melody, monotone lyrics. People Without.... improvised lyrics, basic funk/blues groove. Rave.... basic electronic drum pattern, sparse production, synth flourishes/stabs. If I Had A Harem.... a basic blues song (live), and even more basic song studio. | |
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but 1988 is also: Cookie Jar and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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I think of it in 2 mindsets. THe first, being the lighter material like Lovesaxy or Cool Love and the second being the darker stuff like what was intended for Rave Un2. Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. | |
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KlyphIsBackAgain said:
How is it complex then? Maybe we just have different ways of describing things. There's nothing musically complex about The Future.... it has pretty much the same beat throughout the song with some synth flourishes on top. Very little melody, monotone lyrics. People Without.... improvised lyrics, basic funk/blues groove. Rave.... basic electronic drum pattern, sparse production, synth flourishes/stabs. If I Had A Harem.... a basic blues song (live), and even more basic song studio. It creative and new. Your argument is a bit like calling minimalist art basic. The wooh is on the one! | |
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paulludvig said: KlyphIsBackAgain said:
How is it complex then? Maybe we just have different ways of describing things. There's nothing musically complex about The Future.... it has pretty much the same beat throughout the song with some synth flourishes on top. Very little melody, monotone lyrics. People Without.... improvised lyrics, basic funk/blues groove. Rave.... basic electronic drum pattern, sparse production, synth flourishes/stabs. If I Had A Harem.... a basic blues song (live), and even more basic song studio. It creative and new. Your argument is a bit like calling minimalist art basic. Minimalist art is basic by it's very nature. The miscommunication seems to be that by me calling it basic what I mean is "bad".... but that's not what I mean. Punk, for example, is basic. Basic drums, basic chords.... but punk is some of the most powerful music ever created. | |
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KlyphIsBackAgain said: paulludvig said: It creative and new. Your argument is a bit like calling minimalist art basic. Minimalist art is basic by it's very nature. The miscommunication seems to be that by me calling it basic what I mean is "bad".... but that's not what I mean. Punk, for example, is basic. Basic drums, basic chords.... but punk is some of the most powerful music ever created. I misunderstood. I thought it was a judgement on the quality of the work. The wooh is on the one! | |
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paulludvig said: KlyphIsBackAgain said: Minimalist art is basic by it's very nature. The miscommunication seems to be that by me calling it basic what I mean is "bad".... but that's not what I mean. Punk, for example, is basic. Basic drums, basic chords.... but punk is some of the most powerful music ever created. I misunderstood. I thought it was a judgement on the quality of the work. Absolutely not. I'm loving this new track. His voice, the guitar tone, the drums (it sounds like he's playing. Some of the fills remind me of Tambourine).... but complex it is not (IMHO). | |
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Basic is good! "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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jesus...mods locking other mods' threads...wtf with this place... [Edited 9/19/16 11:17am] | |
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Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Oh god, Elektra is so greasy delicious. My favorite kind of P song without a doubt. [Edited 9/19/16 11:31am] | |
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Mumio said:
They could at least update the title as new songs leak, though... | |
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This stuff is SO GOOD. | |
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WTF. ....WHAT'S GOING ON.....OH M'Y GOD ! | |
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This is just pure craziness. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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I need to hear that version of Mia Boca with Prince. I used to love that song when i was a teen. | |
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Naaahh. Not diggin' 9 to 5 People at all. Too dark for my taste, but in the same vein as Rebirth Of The Flesh (a song which I adore on the other hand.) | |
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Genesia said: This is just pure craziness. I know. I'll be pissed off if I don't get at least one new song tomorrow | |
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KlyphIsBackAgain said: paulludvig said: It creative and new. Your argument is a bit like calling minimalist art basic. Minimalist art is basic by it's very nature. The miscommunication seems to be that by me calling it basic what I mean is "bad".... but that's not what I mean. Punk, for example, is basic. Basic drums, basic chords.... but punk is some of the most powerful music ever created. I feel like a lot of his seemingly minimalist work is actually deceptively simple. The Future doesn't sound like much, but I think if you try to re-create it you might have trouble making it sound the way Prince does. The way he punches in the bass and guitar fills, and the string swells. I remember an interview from the not too distant past, where he talks about the art of punching in various sounds and licks on a dime, and likened it to being able to play another instrument. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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SchlomoThaHomo said: KlyphIsBackAgain said: Minimalist art is basic by it's very nature. The miscommunication seems to be that by me calling it basic what I mean is "bad".... but that's not what I mean. Punk, for example, is basic. Basic drums, basic chords.... but punk is some of the most powerful music ever created. I feel like a lot of his seemingly minimalist work is actually deceptively simple. The Future doesn't sound like much, but I think if you try to re-create it you might have trouble making it sound the way Prince does. The way he punches in the bass and guitar fills, and the string swells. I remember an interview from the not too distant past, where he talks about the art of punching in various sounds and licks on a dime, and likened it to being able to play another instrument. I agree. I've always felt that Prince's true genius was his ability to make simple songs that sounded anything but, through his innovative drum programming and not only his use of synths but how and where he used them. | |
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yes it reminds me a bit of the 3EG stuff. I really like this track Welcome 2 The Dawn | |
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