Bebop17 said:

It's official. They've dropped.

Peachy - rehearsal for the 1994-11-24 MTV Europe Music Awards.

1994-7-14 soundboard - Palladium NYC.

1994-12-12 soundboard - Roseland Ballroom NYC

"New York - Welcome 2 the dawn!"

DYING.

Mintchip said:

I'd also add that I love Jill Jones, and everything she's ever done.

Including Prince while he was dating another woman?

COME AT ME JJ.

Mintchip said:

Maybe Jill leaked Eggplant to get revenge on Wendy!! If so, well played

you didn't

9 to 5 People. Whoa this is the Jam. Electra Funkified Camille/Crystal Ball Era Groove that made my ears grin from lobe to lobe!! To think this track hasn't even been mentioned anywhere before, Amazing...

And these soundboards are off da hook too.

I didn't even mention the Peach soundboard Encore from the Glam Slam show i was at back in 94'.

What a week we're having huh?

EddieC said:

4 Lust--is this the same song that leaked awhile back with Prince duetting with Jill, only without Prince? Or is it a different song? I think it's the only thing from these recent leaks that I haven't found yet.

Its the same song but a different version. Prince gave it to Martyn Ware to produce for Jills second PP album, and he did this along with 3 other tracks

Revolution81 said:

EddieC said:

4 Lust--is this the same song that leaked awhile back with Prince duetting with Jill, only without Prince? Or is it a different song? I think it's the only thing from these recent leaks that I haven't found yet.

Its the same song but a different version. Prince gave it to Martyn Ware to produce for Jills second PP album, and he did this along with 3 other tracks

Cool--I was just about to ask for more details--listening to the two versions right now. It didn't sound like Prince was responsible for this recording--I like it, but I also liked the two voices on the other version.

What were the other tracks? And might they be coming sometime soon, do you think?

bluegangsta said:

Revolution81 said:

Dont want to piss on anyones chips but thats all just someones speculation. Jill wasnt behind any of those tracks leaking

Exactly. All of the recent leaks have been in mono, at 128kbps. They've clearly come from the one source.

Also, there is far more interesting stuff in the vault that she could have leaked to get revenge/ notoriety.

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I didn't necessarily say that Jill was the leaker.

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Nor did I mean to suggest that it is a direct leak, rather than through multiple changes of hand.

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And my speculation applied to only some of the leaks.

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However, it is curious--fortuitous timing if nothing else-- that two recent leaks are demos or alternate versions of songs from her first and proposed second PP album (having openly leaked the other take of '4 Lust' a number of years ago), and a third rumored in the past to have been considered or worked on for JJ's first album ('Come Elektra Tuesday'), and she's been having some social media tantrums recently, and her complaint regarding 'Glamorous Life' being given to Sheila E and the appearance of a demo to that song for the first time in the history of non-elite trading (maybe the latter prompted the former, I didn't closely follow the timeline).

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And 'Roadhouse Garden', '9 to 5 People', 'Eggplant' are not in mono or from the same sound source.

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EddieC said:

Revolution81 said:

Its the same song but a different version. Prince gave it to Martyn Ware to produce for Jills second PP album, and he did this along with 3 other tracks

Cool--I was just about to ask for more details--listening to the two versions right now. It didn't sound like Prince was responsible for this recording--I like it, but I also liked the two voices on the other version.

What were the other tracks? And might they be coming sometime soon, do you think?

I have no idea on the other 3 tracks, other than they had no Prince involvement whatesoever. 4 Lust was the only track Prince gave him to produce. What would be interesting to leak would be the original demo Prince sent to martyn, which I believe wasnt the same as the duet demo that circulates

Revolution81 said:

EddieC said:

Cool--I was just about to ask for more details--listening to the two versions right now. It didn't sound like Prince was responsible for this recording--I like it, but I also liked the two voices on the other version.

What were the other tracks? And might they be coming sometime soon, do you think?

I have no idea on the other 3 tracks, other than they had no Prince involvement whatesoever. 4 Lust was the only track Prince gave him to produce. What would be interesting to leak would be the original demo Prince sent to martyn, which I believe wasnt the same as the duet demo that circulates

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It began as his own song. Then a pseudo-duet (think 'Unforgettable') at an uncertain time, most likely mid/late 1987, although there is some suggestion that the version we had until recently was worked on for the first JJ album, which could redate the origins of the track signficantly (perhaps late 1986 - early 1987, if true). Then Clare Fisher overdubs in Early 1988 (it obviously didn't make the first album, if it was even recorded before its release). Sent to be dance-pop-newjackized by Martyn Ware in 1989, before the second album project appears to die completely in the Summer of 1989, when P's resources are stretched thin by GB, a MD/Time project, Margie Cox, in the context of any already strained emotional relationship with Jill.

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[Edited 9/19/16 17:43pm]

imprimis said:

Revolution81 said:

I have no idea on the other 3 tracks, other than they had no Prince involvement whatesoever. 4 Lust was the only track Prince gave him to produce. What would be interesting to leak would be the original demo Prince sent to martyn, which I believe wasnt the same as the duet demo that circulates

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It began as his own song. Then a pseudo-duet ('Unforgettable') at an uncertain time, most likely mid/late 1987, although there is some suggestion that the version we had until recently was worked on for the first JJ album, which could redate the origins of the track signficantly. Then Clare Fisher overdubs in Early 1988. Sent to be dance-pop-newjacked by Martyn Ware in 1989.

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[Edited 9/19/16 17:32pm]

Correct

Revolution81 said:

EddieC said:

Cool--I was just about to ask for more details--listening to the two versions right now. It didn't sound like Prince was responsible for this recording--I like it, but I also liked the two voices on the other version.

What were the other tracks? And might they be coming sometime soon, do you think?

I have no idea on the other 3 tracks, other than they had no Prince involvement whatesoever. 4 Lust was the only track Prince gave him to produce. What would be interesting to leak would be the original demo Prince sent to martyn, which I believe wasnt the same as the duet demo that circulates

I misread your post--I somehow read the "he" in "he did this..." as being Prince, not Ware. So, yeah, I'm not that interested now. I'm still interested some, because it's still Jill.

However, if you're right in your belief that there is another version that Prince sent Ware, then that would be cool to hear.

Just an aside--trying to find more information on this subject, I googled JJ and MW together--not much there, but at least one Heaven 17 fansite includes "4 Lust" on a members discography, listed as a "single on Paisley Park." Obviously not true, but I wonder how aware Ware's fandom has been of this song, since most of us hadn't heard of it until the earlier leak--and Princevault includes no mention of this version. I know they would consider a cover (maybe) or something, since there's no Prince involvement in the recording, but you think they'd say something if they knew it existed.

imprimis said:

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It began as his own song. Then a pseudo-duet (think 'Unforgettable') at an uncertain time, most likely mid/late 1987, although there is some suggestion that the version we had until recently was worked on for the first JJ album, which could redate the origins of the track signficantly. Then Clare Fisher overdubs in Early 1988. Sent to be dance-pop-newjackized by Martyn Ware in 1989, before the second album project appears to die completely in the Summer of 1989, when P's resources are stretched thin by a MD/Time project, Margie Cox, in the context of any already strained emotional/romantic relationship with Jill.

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And thank you, imprimis, for your information.

purplethunder3121 said:

Mintchip said:

dance4me3121 said:

Mintchip said:

Maybe Jill leaked Eggplant to get revenge on Wendy!! If so, well played

What did Wendy do to Jill for her to seek revenge? I'm clueless on that one

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That was just a quip by Mintchip, it would seem.

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will the whole track of whiskey be released????

luvsexy4all said:

will the whole track of whiskey be released????

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There's a decent chance, considering recently leaked The Flesh 'album' is the bootlegger's capricious and spurious selections from those sessions (oddly missing the authentic polished mixing and overdubs that 'U Gotta Shake Something' evidenced when it was leaked on 'Studio Nights' decades ago), and this leak appears to be from the same tape source.

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Partial leaks from someone who has a copy of the session tapes (the December 1985 half; work continued later in January 1986), not likely to be a/the legitimate demo album, if one was ever properly assembled (and even if these tracks made up such a demo album configuration).

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Keep these up peeps - awesome stuff.

Now if only somone would leak Prince's FAMILY - come on

jstar69 said:

Keep these up peeps - awesome stuff.

Now if only somone would leak Prince's FAMILY - come on

peedub said:

jesus...mods locking other mods' threads...wtf with this place...

anyway. a real 'rebirth of the flesh' vibe in '9 to 5 people'...might help lock down recording date?

thanks to all the plumbers!!!

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Yea, I feel U peedub, I was thinking the same thing about the mods locking out other mods. 9-5 didn't fit in with this thread but it's there's to decide...Totally feeling "Rebirth of the flesh" sessions in this song. I could have seen this making an appearance during the Third Eye Shows.

I shared a few of the new goodies with a non-org friend today (it was her birthday) - and she called me "the Prince fairy."

luvgirl said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I can't find any of these...

And where are those goodies?

imprimis said:

bluegangsta said:

Exactly. All of the recent leaks have been in mono, at 128kbps. They've clearly come from the one source.

Also, there is far more interesting stuff in the vault that she could have leaked to get revenge/ notoriety.

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I didn't necessarily say that Jill was the leaker.

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However, it is curious--fortuitous timing if nothing else-- that two recent leaks are demos or alternate versions of songs from her first and proposed second PP album (having openly leaked the other take of '4 Lust' a number of years ago), and a third rumored in the past to have been considered or worked on for JJ's first album ('Come Elektra Tuesday'), and she's been having some social media tantrums recently, and her complaint regarding 'Glamorous Life' being given to Sheila E and the appearance of a demo to that song for the first time in the history of non-elite trading (maybe the latter prompted the former, I didn't closely follow the timeline).

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And 'Roadhouse Garden', '9 to 5 People', 'Eggplant' are not in mono or from the same sound source.

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[Edited 9/19/16 17:23pm]

Let's not forget JJ's backing on Come Elektra Tuesday.

And she recorded a later version of Rough in 86.

She's so related to a lot of the recent stuff...

She could be a source, not necessarly the leaker(s) himself .

[Edited 9/20/16 0:24am]

Bebop17 said:

It's official. They've dropped.

Peachy - rehearsal for the 1994-11-24 MTV Europe Music Awards.

1994-7-14 soundboard - Palladium NYC.

1994-12-12 soundboard - Roseland Ballroom NYC

"New York - Welcome 2 the dawn!"

DYING.

Well, I just spent too long looking for the bolded one.

EddieC said:

I think the soundboards are out there now...

This is all great--and I mean that. But just as I was thinking that (and clicking to start some downloads), I suddenly felt kind of sick. Yeah, this is great. But also only happening because Prince is dead... and I could have waited a few more years for these to reach us.

So, while I'm enjoying these new leaks, it's bittersweet as can be.

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We've had leaks for decades. How much of what was leaked was ever released officially? I rest my case.

BartVanHemelen said:

EddieC said:

I think the soundboards are out there now...

This is all great--and I mean that. But just as I was thinking that (and clicking to start some downloads), I suddenly felt kind of sick. Yeah, this is great. But also only happening because Prince is dead... and I could have waited a few more years for these to reach us.

So, while I'm enjoying these new leaks, it's bittersweet as can be.

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We've had leaks for decades. How much of what was leaked was ever released officially? I rest my case.

Whatever does that have to do with EddieC's post?

luvgirl said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I can't find any of these...

Where are they dropped? Please pm me, i'm curious and thankful.

KoolEaze said:

So you think the tape-baking at the Vault really happened?

I do know that the multitracks of his albums were digitally converted at some point in the 2000s, so I'd say it's definitely a yes.

TheEnglishGent said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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We've had leaks for decades. How much of what was leaked was ever released officially? I rest my case.

Whatever does that have to do with EddieC's post?

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I presume this:

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I could have waited a few more years for these to reach us.

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was in reference to official releases.