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Yeah, I've also found it really eye-opening (and not in a good way)...I don't know if it's an American vs. Non-American/European thing...but I don't come from a place where the people around me are so set on doing exactly what you say, setting up all kinds of distinctions to try and separate the 'good' from the 'bad.' I don't think recreational drug use is morally bad per se. I do think becoming addicted to drugs is bad, but not from a moral perspective, from the perspective that it often ends up wrecking your life and the lives of people aorund you...but it's not a moral failing, it's self-medication, and that deserves compassion, whatever the source. I have no problem with the fact that Prince was 'anti-drugs'...his sister was a drug-addict, and so were several people he really cared about, and it killed Denise in the end, so he had every reason to want to stay away from it (and as I wrote elsewhere, going by his relationship to music, Prince had a propensity to develop addictive behaviour, so it was very wise of him to stay away from addictive substances most of his life)....but it's not necessarily clear that that was a moral judgment, rather than just a judgment about harm. Maybe he bought the bullshit Big Pharma was peddling that you couldn't get addicted if opiates were prescribed for legitimate pain. I cannot for the life of me understand how that ever washed with anyone....but maybe it makes sense within the moral distinctions which seem to have been set up in the US. In Europe that never happened, we never had a 'war on drugs,' and no-one would ever had beleived that only 'bad' people could get addicted if they took opiates for the 'wrong' reasons. It just makes me really sad. It makes me so sad that the US is now in the grip of this epidemic, and that at the same time it has the most moralistic attitudes, and that is a terrible lethal combination of addiction and shame, and it killed our beloved boy [Edited 9/5/16 12:13pm] Reading your post, which I completely subscribe, has made me think about what Prince himself could have thought if he would have read what was said about this. I guess this reaction (good vs bad) was one of the things he feared the most, because he himself has been immersed in this way of thinking, even if he struggled all his life to be a free thinker, and succeeded to some extent, but deep inside he kept this judgment (moralistic) thing going on, especially towards himself. On the positive side, I think he would be glad and relieved by the fact that at least part of his so called fams are able to let go of the same judgement part. America has a big big problem, and I'm glad we in Europe at least do not have this particular one. "No one plays the clarinet the way U play my heart" | |
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Especially the word tragic makes me tear up. If this is what happened, it made him a very lonely and desperate man. Heart-wrenching indeed! For me, it is really important to know what really happened, so I can deal with that, instead of all the gossip and what-ifs! Let's dance Sugar | |
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No. It can't. Not something I saw in him throughout the years. He's gone now. Can't change my thoughts or opinions of him. He gave and that's most important. "I don't make the rules. I just play" | |
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Makes NO Difference...Still him and always will. | |
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Well said! "A strong spirit transcends rules." - Prince | |
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i love prince even though there is a good chance he was human, like all of us | |
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You hit the nail on the head right there! My own mother was an opiod abuser for nearly 30 yrs mainly muscle relaxers and such. This to my knowledge began in 1986 when her twin brother was shot and killed, then her mother was diagnosed with brain cancer and died 5 yrs later, her grandfather who helped raise her died just 2 months after her twin brother was shot and killed from breast cancer, our home and all of our belongings was lost in a house fire and my dad back then was a very angry and abusive man, her father was a raging alcoholic that her and all her siblings recieved beating at his hands when he got drunk. She took the opiods not to curb physical pain but to curb a heart so broken and damaged emotionallyt that I don't believe she felt she could function in life. I spent years angry at my mother for putting her opoids and such ahead of us kids but looking back now that I"m grown I understand it better and every time I think of her or anyone else that are on opiods I look down in my hand and see a lit cigarette and a huge mug of coffee! I realize I"m just as addicted to 2 of the most legal and widespread drugs in the world! My caffiene addiction nearly killed me twice before I was 18. years later when my own hellish marriage at the time came to a cross roads I found myself smoking cigs and drinking coffee and any thing with caffeine that I can get my hands on! These days I don't consume as much of the cigs and caffeine and my health has improved because of it but I'm still addicted. I'm typing this while having a large mug of coffee sitting here near my hand. In closing when you say it matters to you in how you view someone please take a moment to look around. What vices or addictions do you possess? This is not to be judgemental but reflective as I have had to come to terms with the same reflection recerntly. [Edited 9/8/16 6:49am] [Edited 9/8/16 6:53am] | |
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listen listen to me we cannot give away our beloved kid noway never we love him so much he was an adult we respect him for all gave to us he and only he knew the reason of why do that and nobody else honesty ..... ........... | |
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in ur question the answer is why is now far from us ? that fact hurts me i wanted was here now among us ! i'll try to go to paisley from greece it's a dream i'll do it ....
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No. Everybody's human and nobody is perfect. Addiction can happen to anybody, unfortunatly. I'm not a human
I am a dove I'm your conscious I am love All I really need is to know that You believe | |
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