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Thread started 08/31/16 6:45pm

nursev

Do U Think Prince...

Felt pressure from fans to keep churning out hits? Looking back over the years I think sometimes the Org was a bit unfair to him eek I mean what he put out was never enough for us and some orgers let him know that daily neutral U think he felt the pressure of being the last great musician we had and maybe that contributed to all this somehow? Be honest eek Or do you think he just took it all as it came?

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Reply #1 posted 08/31/16 6:57pm

journalism16

I think it may stem from this. I think not only Prince, but a lot of artists must have felt pressure from their fans to continue doing this, and trying to please everyone probably contributed to how many artists feel/felt from time to time.

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Reply #2 posted 08/31/16 6:59pm

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journalism16 said:

I think it may stem from this. I think not only Prince, but a lot of artists must have felt pressure from their fans to continue doing this, and trying to please everyone probably contributed to how many artists feel/felt from time to time.

I think so too...sometimes some of the comments on here were relentless and to think he saw all that. I know some of it had to stick with him eek

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Reply #3 posted 08/31/16 7:29pm

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I feel a lot of guilt too. It's a good reminder to me to love people while we're all still here.
But I also believe that Prince is with God now because he loves God so much, and one thing I know about that, when you're on the other side with God, all is forgiven.
I think Prince knew that life was life. It comes with its ups and downs. He had a good time anyway and i think the biggest reason he kept performing was that he loved it.
The photo shoots and interviews? Maybe not so much. Even some shows? Maybe at times he didn't feel like going. But I think during those times he did it out of a sense of his own obligation.
I am feeling down tonight again about all of this and I noticed in comes in waves that others seem to share at the same time.
I have to remember that guilt is a HUGE TRICK the ego does so I can't feel the peace God (and probably Prince!) want me to feel.
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Reply #4 posted 08/31/16 9:31pm

fanoftheman

I've been thinking alot about this too.. I think Prince felt alot of pressures.. Money was one.. money coming in to keep PP running etc and he was ageing and probably suffered ailments that most 55-60 year olds suffer and I think he enjoyed Touring more so that creating a record but again was getting tired and worn out.. so I think the pressure to keep going is what lead to this problem..

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Reply #5 posted 08/31/16 9:39pm

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nursev said:

Felt pressure from fans to keep churning out hits? Looking back over the years I think sometimes the Org was a bit unfair to him eek I mean what he put out was never enough for us and some orgers let him know that daily neutral U think he felt the pressure of being the last great musician we had and maybe that contributed to all this somehow? Be honest eek Or do you think he just took it all as it came?


Nursev, you know darned well that whenever an album was put out, folks would be..... "when is he putting out the next album" ........... every time, and you know it. lol

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Reply #6 posted 08/31/16 9:47pm

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As Prince sang in his song, Don't Play Me, "My only competition is, well, me in the past..."

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #7 posted 08/31/16 10:29pm

journalism16

I definitely agree with anangellooksdown, because on so many levels, artists do this out of love and obligation to all of us, but on the other hand, I also think that we ask so much of these artists that we may not realize that we put more pressure on them, than they put on themselves, because we want so much from them, such as, albums, tours, fragrances, books, and the like, that we don't realize what we are asking of them; until it is too late. But I think that we have to let these artists do what they love and continue to entertain us, without expecting too much. With that being said, all of the artists that I love, deceased or living, did/do what they love because they receive so much love from us...their fans. But it does beg the question, are we giving as much love and adoration back to them as they give to us, and how much pressure are we putting on these artists by asking them to give us what we want?

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Reply #8 posted 08/31/16 11:05pm

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I remember Prince was mocked and disrespected a lot over even his Afro hair, his clothes, his shoes, his recent albums, lack of hits, the 3rd Eye Girl band, and even his manhood was mocked. And he was constently dissed by Michael Jackson fans "Prince vs" arguments. I think a lot of people feel bad and guilty about all of that now. I stopped posted on the org for a long time because of all of the negativity that was going on.

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I'm sure Prince felt underappreated and disappointed in a lot of people but that didn't stop him from doing whatever he wanted to do instead of doing a Purple Rain II kind of album and a Revolution reunion tour for hits, fame and fortune. Prince refused to do that, he always wanted to do something different (Around the World in a Day, etc. are proof of that) and he wasn't all about the money and hits and fame (remember he turned down being a part of the "We Are the World" song and video and the "Bad" song and video) and choosing to do his own thing, his own way. The Anka/Sinatra
song "My Way" suited Prince. He was very misunderstood by the masses.

Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/16 11:15pm

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rudeboynpg said:

I remember Prince was mocked and disrespected a lot over even his Afro hair, his clothes, his shoes, his recent albums, lack of hits, the 3rd Eye Girl band, and even his manhood was mocked. And he was constently dissed by Michael Jackson fans "Prince vs" arguments. I think a lot of people feel bad and guilty about all of that now. I stopped posted on the org for a long time because of all of the negativity that was going on.

prince

I'm sure Prince felt underappreated and disappointed in a lot of people but that didn't stop him from doing whatever he wanted to do instead of doing a Purple Rain II kind of album and a Revolution reunion tour for hits, fame and fortune. Prince refused to do that, he always wanted to do something different (Around the World in a Day, etc. are proof of that) and he wasn't all about the money and hits and fame (remember he turned down being a part of the "We Are the World" song and video and the "Bad" song and video) and choosing to do his own thing, his own way. The Anka/Sinatra
song "My Way" suited Prince. He was very misunderstood by the masses.


Nice to see you posting, wb

canada

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Reply #10 posted 09/01/16 12:36am

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Thank you.

Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #11 posted 09/01/16 9:47am

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When Prince made good music, I said so. When Prince made crap music, I said so, too. Do I think he felt pressured to keep churning out hits? Hell no, I do not. Because Prince put out whatever the hell he wanted and whether we liked it or not was not his concern because there was always more than enough of us willing to pay for it, regardless. shrug

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #12 posted 09/01/16 4:12pm

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Prince did what HE wanted to do eventually and heaven help the person, place, or thing that tried to convince him otherwise. He wanted to stay on top forever.

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Reply #13 posted 09/01/16 4:26pm

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Reply #14 posted 09/01/16 5:21pm

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I think it was a combination of Prince seeking approval from his fans, and from the rest of the world (to varying degrees over the course of his career); and an insatiable need in him to out do himself. I've heard him shout out and ask the audience on a few live shows (from the latter part of his career) "are we the best?" It always sounds to me like he is looking for approval from the audience and also trying to make them happy, but at the same time it's kind of like he is acknowledging his status to himself. I know it's cliched but insecurities relating to his childhood could have been the motivating factor for him working so hard.

I think that it is natural with an untimely, sudden death like his to question what may have provoked it but I don't think that the desire of fans was his sole driving force and that fans are to blame for what has sadly occured. Ultimately Prince did what he wanted to do.

Come now, isn't life a little better with a pair of good shoes? - Prince 1985
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Reply #15 posted 09/01/16 5:40pm

malbena

He mentioned in a French interview that he was always trying to 'outdo the previous show". This lead to assuming there was a pressure to do so.

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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Reply #16 posted 09/01/16 5:45pm

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I feel like he was under pressure. People of the Org were highly critical of his every move. He was only human with feelings. A person can only take so much. Look at MJ. Being famous must be taxing. I'm the type that tries to never take anything for granted. I always appreciated Prince and enjoyed the time when he was alive. So glad I got to see him one last time and I never spoke of him in a negative light. What was that fans username here on the Org, CoolMusic or something like that? This person called every song of Prince a masterpiece. This Orger took a lot of heat as a result. I agreed with him most of the time. P's every song was a masterpiece and I miss him dearly.

I'm going to say this only once; shame on you people of the Org for talking head while he was with us. Now, I forgive you all.
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Reply #17 posted 09/01/16 7:48pm

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Be patient, I’ll get to the subject of this thread. I’ve been thinking and missing Prince and I often wonder how he did it, how he created music from a thought to a masterpiece, how he worked with such urgency and patient perfection. I actually feel a little selfish. I did nothing and he did everything, I sat, listened, criticized, analyzed, judged, praised, showed up and he provided the blood sweat a tears. He has said it was his purpose and I believe that, but he paid a much higher price than I did. Now that he’s gone, I never thanked him. I could never repay what he gave to me. And maybe that’s why I feel bad. We really are missing the point, we are moving so fast we are missing life. We do think we have time and we don’t. Its like he knew he only had the time he had and it would be over, so he didn’t waste it. We can all learn that lesson

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Reply #18 posted 09/01/16 8:06pm

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I think he had lots of pressure from other things in life, but writing popular songs (or hits) wasnt one of them.

Otherwise he would never have released most of the albums release this mellinium. biggrin

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Reply #19 posted 09/01/16 9:14pm

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ldmendes said:

yes heart sun

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #20 posted 09/02/16 5:30am

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callimnate said:

I think he had lots of pressure from other things in life, but writing popular songs (or hits) wasnt one of them.

Otherwise he would never have released most of the albums release this mellinium. biggrin

yeahthat thumbs up! clapping

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Reply #21 posted 09/02/16 7:52am

PR4Life

Well, he wasn't the last greatest musician, we still got Stevie Wonder.

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Reply #22 posted 09/02/16 8:55am

tish9311

I don't think he felt pressure to have hits, but he felt pressure to put out music that he liked. I believe that he was a perfectionist and if he didn't like it, it was no go.

Beautiful, Loved and Blessed

Thank You Prince
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Reply #23 posted 09/02/16 11:34am

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No way did this site, or any other message board influence the way he worked or lived. To think so is absurd.

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Reply #24 posted 09/02/16 2:33pm

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I don't think he felt the pressure to create "hits". I mean, with the way the industry kept shifting, it was easy to see that "hit" didn't mean "great".

I think Prince had a drive to just Create! Stronger than anyone I've ever seen.

I know how much he loved us, but I think it was bigger than the fans. I truly believe Prince came here on a mission from God, to show us all what is possible. And boy did he!

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Reply #25 posted 09/02/16 3:51pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

ldmendes said:

yes heart sun



ALL THE YESES TO THIS.

I do think tho that we've been removed from the human cost of perfection ....so many have an armchair view and we need to get out and be participatory in person.

We do not have time. Its imperative to be who u know you are, anyway you can.

There may not be a tomorrrow. We just don't know.

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Reply #26 posted 09/02/16 3:55pm

ilo

What about having to work until 65 and then with the possibility of little pension? Life's tough for everybody. And if you can't pay your mortgage then downsize. Live within your means.
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Reply #27 posted 09/02/16 5:28pm

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nursev said:

journalism16 said:

I think it may stem from this. I think not only Prince, but a lot of artists must have felt pressure from their fans to continue doing this, and trying to please everyone probably contributed to how many artists feel/felt from time to time.

I think so too...sometimes some of the comments on here were relentless and to think he saw all that. I know some of it had to stick with him eek

yeah. sad it makes me want to cry, knowing he read some of the heartless crap on here

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Reply #28 posted 09/02/16 8:37pm

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Prince made music for himself. HE WAS DRIVEN. Spiritually and personally. Yes, he shared it with

all of us and yes, I think he enjoyed us enjoying it, but the bottom line is that any pressure he felt, it came from within - to out do himself. IMHO Peace, love and healing. prince heart

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Reply #29 posted 09/07/16 5:10pm

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nursev said:

Felt pressure from fans to keep churning out hits? Looking back over the years I think sometimes the Org was a bit unfair to him eek I mean what he put out was never enough for us and some orgers let him know that daily neutral U think he felt the pressure of being the last great musician we had and maybe that contributed to all this somehow? Be honest eek Or do you think he just took it all as it came?

Oh noooo...Goodness no! Prince had an endless supply of music and creativity pouring into his psyche constantly. So there was NEVER any pressure. I think he should have released an album every other year (like Warner Bros. suggested) but I read somewhere that he wanted fans to hear the music as soon as it came through to him. As far as his touring/performing I feel he should have cut down on so much of the acrobatic stuff (jumping off rafters, splits ect.) as that would have not put so much wear and tear on his body.

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