Does anyone think it is remotely possible that Prince was releasing some of the live recordings himself? The reason I ask is because since his passing, nothing new has dropped. I would've thought someone would've leaked something since there's no one now to hunt these bootlegs down whether they be free downloads or even packaged and sold. Could it be the case that no one has anything else left to leak? That would be odd since he recorded almost all of his shows, and so much had been leaked prior to his passing. I know this subject has been discussed before, but that's was when he was with us. Now that he's not, and we've heard nothing new, there may be some merit to this idea. Maybe Prince would drop these nuggets on the hardcore fans every so often. It would be cool if that had been the case.

Plenty has dropped.

leadline said:

Plenty has dropped.

Really? Aside from the live Glam Slam shows which had already been circulatiing, what other live soundboards have come out? The P&M shows were audience recordings.

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I am sure back in the day, Prince had some inadvertent effect on boots. We heard the stories of cassettes laying around in rental cars and so forth.

I have always believed that there is a small group of fans that have a lot of unreleased material. More than that is out now. I believe they do not release it to be "priviliged" to have the material.

Long time ago there was a Prince record convention in Toledo. There was a lot of fans and collectors.

Mary, the elder lady, who is a huge fan was there. She was cool.

Anyways, I meet 3 dudes who had so much unreleased stuff. The had the Come album in 2 configs (if I remember correctly). I over heard them talking about tracks they had. They wouldn't trade or really speak much. They kept to themselves. After the convention, the tracks were out on the "market".

I know when Prince downsized, the boots and material dried up pretty fast.

I've never put any stock in the "It was Prince that was releasing the bootlegs" theory. I don't see any way Prince would have purposefully let music go that people would pay someone else for, and not pay him.

I don't know...

Rightly or wrongly...there is no defitive answer....Prince love conjecture...

But...

Lovesexy...Bob/Super...

It can be viewed two ways...

And both have validiity...

1) BA was leaked and he acknowledged it

2) LS was going to have poor sales and his position began to flag - so he did release BA on boot to continue the "mythical" Prince

If nothing....he knew how to manipulate...

WB - Ok Prince - LS is gonna tank...let's put out the BA (vault) as a boot to try and prop it up...

I'm so cynical around a business table!

derrick31 said:

If you care about this subject, why not use this site's search (top right of your screen) and enter the words "prince leaks bootlegs" and read the kazillion already existing threads. Short answer: no he didn't. If you need more explanation: search & read.

Shoot, I was hoping something new had dropped.

BartVanHemelen said:

If you care about this subject, why not use this site's search (top right of your screen) and enter the words "prince leaks bootlegs" and read the kazillion already existing threads. Short answer: no he didn't. If you need more explanation: search & read.

Fine Bart (I can't be arsed right now to read it - will do tho)

If he didn't tho - then he certainly supported boots with the LS tour and the BA album

Either way - he was complicit.

Some guy came up to me at the Palladium when I was waiting around by the box office and we started talking about bootlegs. He told me there is a group of people who have "the real stuff" like "Purple Rain outtakes dude!" I mentioned I had a few and tried to talk to him about some common ones like the 6-7-84 birthday show, which he didn't seem to know about. There seemed to be some kind of underlying taunt that I too could be part of the in crowd, for a fee. I told him I don't pay for stuff, just trade and leech torrents. At that point I said "see you inside" and he said "Oh I'm not going to the show."

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I felt like I was being screened for Scientology or something, it was weird.

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Re the OP, I very much doubt that Prince himself has sourced any material to bootleggers. The scuttlebutt is that one member of the Revolution turned over a bunch of his old cassettes for a hefty fee, which is how a lot of the studio outtakes from the 80s have been heard.

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If this shadowy In-Crowd who have stuff no one else has really exists, I'm sure it is just a handful of private collectors who pool their money to get copies of this stuff with the agreement it never be circulated outside the group. I know some Who fans pooled their $ to acquire a pro shot concert from 1975 when it went up for auction in the 90s. At that time no one had ever seen a complete Who concert from the 70s in any kind of quality. I knew one of these guys & watched some of it at his house, so it was definitely real. I think they had 10 guys put in $4000 each.

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About two years after that, it was released as a bootleg. When I asked my friend about it, he said one of the people in the pool had sold the rest of them out and was in big trouble if he ever showed his face again.

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Cool but off tangent

Why did Prince acknowledge boots in LS tour of the BA - if not to solidify his mythology?

Ergo - he encoraged it to some extent?

Peace Hx

There is no way that Prince leaked anything.

Which member of The Revolution was meant to have sold tapes?

That would be Charles "Big Chick" Huntsberry.

I think much of it came from the constant stream of songs that Prince was writing and

cassette tapes and dat's that were either stolen,

lost or freely handed out to various artist's -

band members.. record executives.. ect.

Bobzilla Got Stories!

still waiting for these leaks.....

6/7/84 Video

88 london aftershow video

2/14/94 paisley park video whole show

87 italy video

9/88 paisley park aftershow video

jjam said:

There is no way that Prince leaked anything.

Which member of The Revolution was meant to have sold tapes?

We all know who!!!!!

But again - why did Prince fuel it in LS tour with songs from BA?

Sorry - Prince knew and propogated some of it

Man loved a mind-fuck/paradox.... cultivate myth...

And that is why we are still here...

Tis an old story... Man played his own bootlegs in concert - period

he allowed them to be played on the old WBAI radio shows.....and that went on for decades

Connected said:

BartVanHemelen said:

If you care about this subject, why not use this site's search (top right of your screen) and enter the words "prince leaks bootlegs" and read the kazillion already existing threads. Short answer: no he didn't. If you need more explanation: search & read.

Fine Bart (I can't be arsed right now to read it - will do tho)

If he didn't tho - then he certainly supported boots with the LS tour and the BA album

Either way - he was complicit.

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Oh for crying out loud, stop making up shit that doesn't prove anything.

Connected said:

jjam said:

There is no way that Prince leaked anything.

Which member of The Revolution was meant to have sold tapes?

We all know who!!!!!

But again - why did Prince fuel it in LS tour with songs from BA?

Sorry - Prince knew and propogated some of it

Man loved a mind-fuck/paradox.... cultivate myth...

And that is why we are still here...

Tis an old story... Man played his own bootlegs in concert - period

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STOP MAKING UP SHIT. Prince has repeatedly played unreleased music live. Go watch the PR Live VHS: at least one song ("Possessed") remains unreleased to this day.

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Sheesh. You know zilch yet when people try to educate you, you don't listen and repeat your own nonsensical theories.

bobzilla77 said:

Re the OP, I very much doubt that Prince himself has sourced any material to bootleggers.

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Stop leaving the possibility: there is none. It didn't happen.

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The scuttlebutt is that one member of the Revolution turned over a bunch of his old cassettes for a hefty fee, which is how a lot of the studio outtakes from the 80s have been heard.

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That's ONE source. There are numerous, often very well-known tales. Prince handing tapes to one-night stands. Prince bringing his car to a garage for servicing and leaving numerous tapes all over it. Prince was careless, ditto some of his band members and employees, and sometimes people sold tapes.

He got off on exclusivity and making a portion of his music available only to his "true fans" so I could imagine him being the source of a number of bootlegs or being supportive of certain groups like FBG and 4DaFunk.

I wouldn't be shocked to hear he was the source for the 1984 Birthday Show.

BartVanHemelen said:

Strive said:

He got off on exclusivity and making a portion of his music available only to his "true fans" so I could imagine him being the source of a number of bootlegs or being supportive of certain groups like FBG and 4DaFunk.

I wouldn't be shocked to hear he was the source for the 1984 Birthday Show.

Uh, no.

luvsexy4all said:

RodeoSchro said:

I've never put any stock in the "It was Prince that was releasing the bootlegs" theory. I don't see any way Prince would have purposefully let music go that people would pay someone else for, and not pay him.

Back in the day I think bootlegs played the part that mixtapes play today.

He definitely wasn't the one "releasing" them, though was often responsible for his own leaks.

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love2thenines2003 said:

luvsexy4all said:

still waiting for these leaks.....

6/7/84 Video

88 london aftershow video

2/14/94 paisley park video whole show

87 italy video

9/88 paisley park aftershow video

How do u know that these tapes exist in the hands of collectors. ...there is no evidences of that...this is only a dream at this stage my friend!

not just a dream

luvsexy4all said: