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Reply #60 posted 08/26/16 9:33am

justAmeda

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I hope all rights to video and audio are sold by the Estate to Warner Bros. They are the only company I trust to properly release everything.

why does it have to be a company in charge of it? Is Prince's family not intelligent enough to know how to get stuff done without having to involve music industry vultures?

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Reply #61 posted 08/26/16 9:38am

BanishedBrian

justAmeda said:

BanishedBrian said:

I hope all rights to video and audio are sold by the Estate to Warner Bros. They are the only company I trust to properly release everything.

why does it have to be a company in charge of it? Is Prince's family not intelligent enough to know how to get stuff done without having to involve music industry vultures?

Yes, that is correct.

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Reply #62 posted 08/26/16 9:54am

nursev

justAmeda said:

eek I did not realize that the deal was for THE U.S. ONLY! eek )this is purely my own opinion so do not take it as fact but In my heart and every being in my body I say that WB has a lot to gain by him being gone but the flip side of the coin is could there be some hostility and such from the other labels he worked with that might seek revenge? If you read below you will see that Prince could have created a lot of enemies among many of the major record labels because he refused to be controled and told what he can and can't do/who he can and cannot work with and so on when Prince signed various one off deals with many of WB's rivals. such as....

https://www.theguardian.c...isley-park states....

"The NPG years (including EMI, Arista, Columbia, Universal and back to Warner again) (1995-2014)

The past two decades have been somewhat promiscuous for Prince in terms of his dealings with record labels, and this is where the chronology gets a little topsy-turvy. He set up NPG Records (the NPG standing for New Power Generation) to replace the now defunct Paisley Park Records. The Gold Experience (1995) came out on NPG/Warner, but also lived on when Prince finally broke with Warner and signed a series of one-off deals with most of Warner's major label rivals. There was the tellingly titled Emancipation (with EMI) in 1996, Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (with Arista) in 1996, The Rainbow Children (with Redline Entertainment, owned by Best Buy) in 1999, NEWS (with MP Media) in 2003, Musicology (with Columbia) in 2004, 3121 (with Universal) in 2006, Planet Earth (with Columbia again, more of which below) in 2007 and then both Art Official Age and Plectrum Electrum (reuniting him with Warner) in 2014."

Sony sued him for working with Judith Hill in 2015 as well... http://www.axs.com/news/p...hill-46536

"Flamboyant singer, songwriter Prince is being sued by Sony Music and music producer Jolene Cherry for allegedly "poaching" singer Judith Hill, a former contestant on TV's "The Voice". Cherry, credited with discovering Lady Gaga, claims that Hill was signed to an exclusive recording contract, and is now suing Prince for regular damages, punitive damages and underhandedness, according to a March 28 report from Yahoo! News.The lawsuit comes after it was discovered that the diminutive Prince collaborated with Hill on the album "Back In Time". Produced by Prince, the album was made available for free download on YouTube" ...."Reportedly, Cherry and Sony caught wind of the Prince/Hill collaboration a few months back and warned Hill to cease and desist her activities with the 56-year-old Prince. The lawsuit followed Monday's release of the free download of "Back in Time" which contains 11 songs"...

All in all and this is just me reading the fine print and forming my own conclusions, the only conclusion that I can form LOGICALLY is that his death is just too fishy for us to believe what we are told in media. It pays for fans to always second guess what the media says and do their own research, because an artist's fans may be the only ones that can move mountains and make sure that person's death is not invain. Prince moved heaven and earth for his fans and those he loved. It is sad to even fathom that possibly some person or persons closest to him might betray him. That is the part that I have a hard time wrapping my head around.

[Edited 8/26/16 8:20am]

Wow so Sony basically went after Prince for stealing Judith Hill away...interesting so I guess they had an axe to grind with Prince eek

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Reply #63 posted 08/26/16 9:55am

nursev

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So it looks like Warners and Sony are competing against each other for Prince's catalogue. I just read that on Google News. Also, the Estate is looking toward a holiday season release of yet another greatest hits-type album with two never-released songs included. Then, starting in 2017, the Estate will address the contents of the Vault. Prince withdrew from ASCAP a while back, so the Estate has to basically set up a global music distribution arrangement.

eek Besides Judith Hill WTH does Sony have to do with Prince. What kinda history does he have with them? and the money grab begins?

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Reply #64 posted 08/26/16 10:00am

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I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek

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Reply #65 posted 08/26/16 10:09am

BanishedBrian

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I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek

My guess is that a good psychiatrist could help you sort through that question.

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Reply #66 posted 08/26/16 10:16am

nursev

BanishedBrian said:

nursev said:

I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek

My guess is that a good psychiatrist could help you sort through that question.

No prob...thanks for the reply

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Reply #67 posted 08/26/16 10:29am

justAmeda

nursev said:

1Sasha said:

So it looks like Warners and Sony are competing against each other for Prince's catalogue. I just read that on Google News. Also, the Estate is looking toward a holiday season release of yet another greatest hits-type album with two never-released songs included. Then, starting in 2017, the Estate will address the contents of the Vault. Prince withdrew from ASCAP a while back, so the Estate has to basically set up a global music distribution arrangement.

eek Besides Judith Hill WTH does Sony have to do with Prince. What kinda history does he have with them? and the money grab begins?

I cannot find any news about Prince and Sony other than about the Judith Hill lawsuit but in my opinion if what they say about Sony doing MJ the way they supposedly did then it would stand to reason that they would have at least tried to trap Prince too in some form or fashion.

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Reply #68 posted 08/26/16 10:31am

nursev

justAmeda said:

nursev said:

eek Besides Judith Hill WTH does Sony have to do with Prince. What kinda history does he have with them? and the money grab begins?

I cannot find any news about Prince and Sony other than about the Judith Hill lawsuit but in my opinion if what they say about Sony doing MJ the way they supposedly did then it would stand to reason that they would have at least tried to trap Prince too in some form or fashion.

Yeah they truly did a number on MJ so I guess Prince was next...shady dealings

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Reply #69 posted 08/26/16 10:38am

justAmeda

nursev said:

justAmeda said:

I cannot find any news about Prince and Sony other than about the Judith Hill lawsuit but in my opinion if what they say about Sony doing MJ the way they supposedly did then it would stand to reason that they would have at least tried to trap Prince too in some form or fashion.

Yeah they truly did a number on MJ so I guess Prince was next...shady dealings

Yep and if they can get away with it with one person what's to stop them from doing it again?

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Reply #70 posted 08/26/16 10:44am

nursev

justAmeda said:

nursev said:

Yeah they truly did a number on MJ so I guess Prince was next...shady dealings

Yep and if they can get away with it with one person what's to stop them from doing it again?

Indeed...something is just not right with all this. I guess in time it will be revealed.

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Reply #71 posted 08/26/16 10:46am

Astasheiks

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[Edited 8/26/16 10:47am]

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Reply #72 posted 08/26/16 10:48am

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justAmeda said:

nursev said:

Yeah they truly did a number on MJ so I guess Prince was next...shady dealings

Yep and if they can get away with it with one person what's to stop them from doing it again?

eek Yikes!

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Reply #73 posted 08/26/16 11:47am

Menes

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I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek

She was screwing one and "advising" the other.

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Reply #74 posted 08/26/16 11:56am

Astasheiks

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Dreamer2 said:

While he famously eviscerated the company over ownership issues in the years leading up to his departure, the ­announcement of the 2014 deal promised “the release of long-awaited, ­previously unheard material, while giving the ­artist ­ownership of the master recordings of his classic, global hits,” as well as a 30th-­anniversary deluxe edition ofPurple Rain. However, nothing has materialized thus far from the agreement beyond the two 2014 albums, Prince’s Art Official Age (which to date has scanned nearly 154,000 units) and Prince & 3rdeyegirl’s Plectrumelectrum (60,000 units). Strang tellsBillboard that no further releases under the deal are scheduled.

Sources tell Billboard that Prince’s ­ownership of his Warner Bros. catalog is for the United States only; WMG still owns and ­controls it for the rest of the world. In exchange for Prince’s ownership of his master recordings, sources say WMG received a long-term licensing and distribution deal — possibly for the life of the copyright, i.e., 75 years after the author’s death. For its part, WMG gave Prince a huge bump in royalties for his records — Billboard ­estimates that the artist received a blended rate of 37 percent across all formats and territories.

Based on the deal’s press release, it seems likely that Prince at least verbally agreed to issue upgraded versions of his Warner Bros.-era albums and mine his vault for previously unreleased material. When asked about the Purple Rain reissue, Strang toldBillboard, “I definitely discussed it with Prince. At times he toyed with doing something with it and maybe worked on it, but he considered Purple Rain a masterpiece, and I think he liked it the way it was.”

http://wemanagelegends.com/will-princes-estate-and-icon-status-grow-after-his-death-2/

Money dont matter tonight.....RIP Prince sad

Deep Deep, Dreamer2!

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Reply #75 posted 08/26/16 11:59am

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Menes said:

nursev said:

I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek

She was screwing one and "advising" the other.

eek razz Look out ya... Nursev how did u know she was around MJ before he died??? neutral

[Edited 8/26/16 12:00pm]

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Reply #76 posted 08/26/16 1:01pm

Vee0319

Astasheiks said:



Menes said:




nursev said:


I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek



She was screwing one and "advising" the other.




eek razz Look out ya... Nursev how did u know she was around MJ before he died??? neutral

[Edited 8/26/16 12:00pm]


Because Judith was in the This is It movie and has a solo with MJ and she was one of the back up singers for the tour.
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Reply #77 posted 08/26/16 1:52pm

Vee0319

Vee0319 said:

Astasheiks said:



Menes said:




nursev said:


I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek



She was screwing one and "advising" the other.




eek razz Look out ya... Nursev how did u know she was around MJ before he died??? neutral

[Edited 8/26/16 12:00pm]


Because Judith was in the This is It movie and has a duet with MJ and she was one of the back up singers for the tour.
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Reply #78 posted 08/26/16 2:09pm

BanishedBrian

So just to be clear, some of you are accusing Judith Hill of murder?

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Reply #79 posted 08/26/16 2:15pm

nursev

BanishedBrian said:

So just to be clear, some of you are accusing Judith Hill of murder?



No...but obviously that's what u wanna make people think we said. Quit trolling.
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Reply #80 posted 08/26/16 2:15pm

nursev

Vee0319 said:

Astasheiks said:



Menes said:




nursev said:


I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek



She was screwing one and "advising" the other.




eek razz Look out ya... Nursev how did u know she was around MJ before he died??? neutral

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Because Judith was in the This is It movie and has a solo with MJ and she was one of the back up singers for the tour.


Thank you
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Reply #81 posted 08/26/16 2:16pm

nursev

Menes said:



nursev said:


I can respect Judith for telling her side of the plane incident, but then again I wonder what was up with her being around Prince and Michael Jackson before they died eek



She was screwing one and "advising" the other.



Guess so lol
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Reply #82 posted 08/26/16 2:24pm

BanishedBrian

nursev said:

BanishedBrian said:

So just to be clear, some of you are accusing Judith Hill of murder?

No...but obviously that's what u wanna make people think we said. Quit trolling.


Well what exactly are you alluding to then? Is she an angel of death or something?

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Reply #83 posted 08/26/16 2:27pm

nursev

BanishedBrian said:



nursev said:


BanishedBrian said:

So just to be clear, some of you are accusing Judith Hill of murder?



No...but obviously that's what u wanna make people think we said. Quit trolling.


Well what exactly are you alluding to then? Is she an angel of death or something?



never said that either...I asked what was up with her being around both of them that's all nothing else, but I guess if you're that type of person to infer stuff then so be it neutral
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Reply #84 posted 08/26/16 2:33pm

BanishedBrian

nursev said:

BanishedBrian said:


Well what exactly are you alluding to then? Is she an angel of death or something?

never said that either...I asked what was up with her being around both of them that's all nothing else, but I guess if you're that type of person to infer stuff then so be it neutral


OK, so what specifically do you want to know when you ask what was up?

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Reply #85 posted 08/26/16 3:13pm

djThunderfunk

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lol lol lol




[Edited 8/26/16 15:14pm]

Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #86 posted 08/26/16 3:16pm

nursev

BanishedBrian said:

nursev said:

BanishedBrian said: never said that either...I asked what was up with her being around both of them that's all nothing else, but I guess if you're that type of person to infer stuff then so be it neutral


OK, so what specifically do you want to know when you ask what was up?

It was brought up that she had been involved with both men and I asked what specifically was up with her being around them and someone responded and said she was MJ's backup singer and she dated Prince. Nothing more nothing less.

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Reply #87 posted 08/26/16 3:17pm

nursev

I also said I respected her for telling her side of the story. Reading is fundamental!

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Reply #88 posted 08/26/16 3:17pm

nursev

djThunderfunk said:

lol lol lol




[Edited 8/26/16 15:14pm]

see u edited that neutral

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Reply #89 posted 08/26/16 3:20pm

BanishedBrian

nursev said:

BanishedBrian said:


OK, so what specifically do you want to know when you ask what was up?

It was brought up that she had been involved with both men and I asked what specifically was up with her being around them and someone responded and said she was MJ's backup singer and she dated Prince. Nothing more nothing less.


I give you credit for quality application of Donald Trump rhetorical techniques here.

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