StopIt said:

LuxLove said:

StopIt said:

Good Lord, but there Are brilliant, And independent, And driven, And self-made young people out there also! He surrounded himself with lots of substandard, lazy, ignorant, garbage to his detriment. He got a a rise out of trying to lift up Lesser creatures somehow, like a humane society for humans. What a waste.

Some of his fans aren't much better.

whodknee said:

StopIt said:

Good Lord, but there Are brilliant, And independent, And driven, And self-made young people out there also! He surrounded himself with lots of substandard, lazy, ignorant, garbage to his detriment. He got a a rise out of trying to lift up Lesser creatures somehow, like a humane society for humans. What a waste.

Some of his fans aren't much better.

I don't think she was lazy, ignorant or garbage. She was probably in awe because she got a once in a lifetime opportunity to work with/for the man himself. Poor thing will always be a mess for not being able to do anything but say "Ok" and "Yes Prince". I seriously don't think she knew how to intervene.

Menes said:

whodknee said:

Some of his fans aren't much better.

I don't think she was lazy, ignorant or garbage. She was probably in awe because she got a once in a lifetime opportunity to work with/for the man himself. Poor thing will always be a mess for not being able to do anything but say "Ok" and "Yes Prince". I seriously don't think she knew how to intervene.

I will get hate for this but so be it. I think Prince hired incompetent folks who were just pretty faces. If she cared for Prince so much why did she leave him alone in a health crisis? And dont gimme that boss shit...Im not buying it. Truth is none of these muthafuckas stayed with Prince. He died alone in a fucking elevator. So whether it was posted in April or August Im not buying it.

rogifan said:

So easy when one is on the outside looking in without all of the facts and hindsight being 20/20 to say what someone should have done. When someone goes after the people who worked for Prince they're essentially going after the man himself and his judgement...he hired these people after all.

Say what you like....I stand by what I said.

Prince was my hero, but he was no saint. He did alot of suspect things in his life as Im sure most of us have made mistakes. But yeah the people who were around him had something to gain and were not truly his friends.

rogifan said:

NinaB said:

rogifan said:

So easy when one is on the outside looking in without all of the facts and hindsight being 20/20 to say what someone should have done. When someone goes after the people who worked for Prince they're essentially going after the man himself and his judgement...he hired these people after all.

20/20?...I've had my concerns about his inner circle 4 a few yrs now. I saw some unprofessional stuff go down that I'd never seen b4 (Serpan anyone? Cringe.) And I LOVE P, but it crossed my mind that green kids are far less likely 2 give u a reality check than a professional adult.

Agreed...Serpan was a lil unusual too

nursev said:

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Agreed...Serpan was a lil unusual too

Yeah he was, I was shocked by how bitchy they were with him tho, very unprofessional & immature.

He use to email and orgnote me alot...what was the deal with him? Yeah I noticed that he did get alot of hate her too. I just kinda figured he was serious about Prince

Im thinking about Jill and her intentions to "fatten Prince Up" but none of these people were strong enough or cared enough to go against Princes wishes and help him cuz he obviously needed help!

nursev said:

Was there ANYONE around him who he wasn't supporting financially, be it protegees, employees, "friends" or family? Was there anyone who stood up to him and said "no?" There is simply no way - NO WAY! - some or all of these people didn't know he had a drug issue. Add in his distrust of authority (lawyers, CPAs, record people, etc.) ... Who was watching the business side of his business? I don't think anyone was. He fired people so randomly. Not having a will was probably the least of his problems at the end of his life. There was apparently not enough (liquid) money in the estate to pay the taxes and overhead ... therefore the management company is paying for a portion of expenses to get PP up and running. Wasn't it Rolling Stone that said his current advisors were some 20-something girls? Puhleeze ...

nursev said:

Yeah ok Meron was around, but we know nothing of what went down. Jill Jones had her suspicions but did NOTHING, Apples, Brenda & Vashtie could see how skinny he was but did nothing, Dr. Funkenberry was around he did nothing yet very few will criticise them for it. I'm not blaming any of them for doing nothing just pointing out that from the outside with the little we know NO ONE appears to have done anything for Prince until it was too late.

You know what he may well have had dickheads working for him, I don't know I wasn't there but I'm sure they loved him & that is evident from Meron's & Julia's tributes posted in this thread. Isn't that all that matters? Can't this thread just be about that?

NinaB said:

nursev said:

He use to email and orgnote me alot...what was the deal with him? Yeah I noticed that he did get alot of hate her too. I just kinda figured he was serious about Prince

He's on twitter, had some back & forth's with them again not 2 long ago. He was very enthusiastic shall we say & they didn't appreciate it. They had Dingleberry etc 2 disperse info.

Twitter mess... And Dingleberry is another one that needs to go away

nursev said:

1Sasha said:

Was there ANYONE around him who he wasn't supporting financially, be it protegees, employees, "friends" or family? Was there anyone who stood up to him and said "no?" There is simply no way - NO WAY! - some or all of these people didn't know he had a drug issue. Add in his distrust of authority (lawyers, CPAs, record people, etc.) ... Who was watching the business side of his business? I don't think anyone was. He fired people so randomly. Not having a will was probably the least of his problems at the end of his life. There was apparently not enough (liquid) money in the estate to pay the taxes and overhead ... therefore the management company is paying for a portion of expenses to get PP up and running. Wasn't it Rolling Stone that said his current advisors were some 20-something girls? Puhleeze ...

All young as hell and its cool to be young, but sometimes you need mature people around to give you the truth and to rely on. My son is 23, but he's still learning his way in life and most people that age are and his employees were no different. Obviously he liked it that way, but it cost him in the end.

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Im thinking about Jill and her intentions to "fatten Prince Up" but none of these people were strong enough or cared enough to go against Princes wishes and help him cuz he obviously needed help!

Her, Susan & Apples I believe. If only they'd of got there sooner Susan was never star struck & she wasn't a dummy

Yep thats why she left and went on and lived her life. Im not saying their intentions werent good just that none of them acted on it.

1Sasha said:

LuxLove said:

Yeah ok Meron was around, but we know nothing of what went down. Jill Jones had her suspicions but did NOTHING, Apples, Brenda & Vashtie could see how skinny he was but did nothing, Dr. Funkenberry was around he did nothing yet very few will criticise them for it. I'm not blaming any of them for doing nothing just pointing out that from the outside with the little we know NO ONE appears to have done anything for Prince until it was too late.

You know what he may well have had dickheads working for him, I don't know I wasn't there but I'm sure they loved him & that is evident from Meron's & Julia's tributes posted in this thread. Isn't that all that matters? Can't this thread just be about that?

Of course it cant this is the Org Well none of them did anything so this is where we stand.

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Twitter mess... And Dingleberry is another one that needs to go away

I know, swore I'd never get involved but P opened an account &.... Yeah, far away.

Aww I know I was on Instagram because of him too but I draw the line at Twitter

nursev said:

nursev said:

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Yep thats why she left and went on and lived her life. Im not saying their intentions werent good just that none of them acted on it.

Must be hard tho 2 just push yourself up in his business when u ain't seen each other in years. Maybe they thought they had time too

Maybe they did think that....I feel for them having lost Denise and Prince two months apart, but still the nurse in me says they did nothing to help

laurarichardson said:

nursev said:

Yep thats why she left and went on and lived her life. Im not saying their intentions werent good just that none of them acted on it.

--The only that was going to help him was going into a rehab and maybe retiring due to joint pain and whatever alaiments he had. The people around had nothing to do with is medical issues and how he decided what to do.

I never said they had anything to do with his issues...I said they didnt appear to help him with them.

nursev said: