This article sucks but I feel like it sadly needs to be considered...

http://www.people.com/art...explainer

I hope it is not true, but if it is than that original drug dealer was telling the truth/

[Edited 8/22/16 18:31pm]

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purplerabbithole said:

What kind of test determined that Prince couldn't have been a fentanyl user before? Do we know the source?

Didn't Dr. Drew state that a urine test wouldn't determine it anyhow.

The new article states that fentanyl users sometimes willingly buy the counterfit hydrocodone. We have no way of knowing if he did that or not?

totally different story though

TrivialPursuit said:

There's a new sticky for this story and its elements: http://prince.org/msg/7/431071

purplerabbithole said:

purplerabbithole said:

Wanna bet this person will ignore everybody's answers and keep right on with this line of thought?

morningsong said:

so, blood tests would have determined fentanyl. I am just wanting confirmation and clarification. Unfortunately, Dr. Drew's contention that a test wouldn't determine fentanyl usage has upset me.

Trust me if you guys can convince me that Dr. Drew and this new dude in People magazine are wrong, I will be very happy. I am not being sarcastic.

I would much rather think he was on milder pain killers (like percocet starting around 2009 when his hips went to shit) than the long term drug user some are pegging him as.

jdcxc said:

purplerabbithole said:

What kind of test determined that Prince couldn't have been a fentanyl user before? Do we know the source?

Didn't Dr. Drew state that a urine test wouldn't determine it anyhow.

The new article states that fentanyl users sometimes willingly buy the counterfit hydrocodone. We have no way of knowing if he did that or not?

They took blood tests following the previous overdose. Also, his Dr. delivering blood test results to him the day he was found dead.

purplerabbithole said:

Oh to be proven wrong. Goody.

laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:

What kind of test determined that Prince couldn't have been a fentanyl user before? Do we know the source?

Didn't Dr. Drew state that a urine test wouldn't determine it anyhow.

The new article states that fentanyl users sometimes willingly buy the counterfit hydrocodone. We have no way of knowing if he did that or not?

-- Please go back and read the first article. They used Dr.S test from the day before, hair test that go back 90 days, and the ME ran test on his body. Do you think the ME would make this up. The fucking pills were stamped wrong. Did he have a pill stamper in the basement of Paisly Park? This is the media trying to rip him apart What are going to say if they charge someone for this. I guess that will wake people up.

Calm down a bit. I forgot about the hair test. And why is Dr. Drew being so dismissive of these results?

But I did notice something recently, the NIghtly News tonight ran a ridiculous story about Prince. All they said was that pills at his estate had fentanyl in them. they literally said one sentence about it and didn't mention how they were labeled or anything else. I was pissed. This approach just made it appear that he definitely was just a fentanyl user. NO nuances or explanations were provided. Literally one sentence. I do think some folks are not reporting on this stuff in a very responsible manner.

I also want to tear down this People article in another way...and I hope you guys can help me do it.

the article is contending that prince might have bought the fake hydrocodone knowing it was fentanyl (didn't use a press, just happened to know what he was buying). Well, then why hide it in ALeve and Vitamin C bottles if the hydrocodone label on the pills themselves was the disguise. Also, why use another opiate as a disguise anyhow? Didn't they mention something about fake antibiotics. Wouldn't antibiotics have been a better way to hide the contents?

A more responsible explanation (barring the Daily Mail article) would be that around 2010 prince starting taking percocet to deal with his chronic pain. He took them for too long and wasn't willing to get a hip replacement (surgery but no replacement) so he kept needing pain relief but no doctor would continue getting it for him because the surgery option was being turned down and he was unwilling to physically take it easy and just retire the dancing. So he started buying hydrocodone and percocet on the black market rather than just get a full hip replacement and the bloods transfers that may be required for such a surgery... and then slow the hell down in terms of work and stage performance. He basically worked himself to death.

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purplerabbithole said:

laura, who knows if anyone in that family even has their shit together well enough to put together a coherent statement. They don't seem to really know how to handle any of it.

dupe

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