Bebop17 said:

herb4 said:

FUNKNROLL said:

herb4 said:

EnDoRpHn said:

CooperC62057 said:

Just watching Something in the Water from Manchester 2014. At the beginning he asks the audience "What you doing wearing your sweater backwards?"

I never noticed this before and might not be quoting it exactly right. I was listening to it because when I think of how fucked up everything has become, my first thought is "Something in the water does not compute!"

CooperC62057 said:

FUNKNROLL said:

herb4 said:

Who would murder Prince and why? This place is crazy.

I recently saw report his legacy's value is up 11% and will continue trending upward now that he has died. He's worth more now (to business) than when he was alive. He was very outspoken about his corporate partners and very protective of his efforts. Don't underestimate what a business is willing to do for money in sums of millions, and in long term billions. Especially if business is struggling and parties have been burned. This isn't conspiracy - it's a sick sad truth in the world. It's not uncommon for corporations to employ doctors to manage costs and provide health care across state lines. Weeks before he died BlindGossip predicted his death this summer. TMZ is owned by Warners and had exclusives on his health. He posted "just when you thought you were safe" in social media. Now, reports say it seems he took pills that were mislabeled on the actual pills not just bottle. Hard to fault anybody for being willing to entertain the idea his death was more than unfortunate. . [Edited 8/21/16 19:35pm]

Co sign

I haven't post in a long time and four months later still hitting hard but I am healing and also continue to remember Prince my way ...

Yeah, I have been following this saga closely since day one and I am glad that I was one of the ones who kept up with Prince very closely during his final months alive. I have been saying for four months to people that likely greedy Warner Bros and the family are controling the health narrative to perserve the legacy. And that is why i refuse to support the estate. That is all I am going to say.

Can you not appreciate the man and his incredible talent and all that he accomplished in his too short lifetime? Why must people speculate over and pick apart the circumstances of his death?

Even if he suffered (or did not suffer) from an addiction problem it does not change the facts of his life.

Rest in peace dear PRN.

CooperC62057 said:

EnDoRpHn said:

You know the saying, Denial ain't a river in Egypt.

How about you don't make yourself look the idiot? I spent all morning on this thread explaining EXACTLY what seems to be the way the story broke in the afternoon. I'm not in denial about a single thing so keep your stupidity to yourself!

morningsong said:

avajane said:

SpinsterSister said:

teach49 said:

He was wearing the outfit he wore earlier that day. He was known to stay up all night. I tend to think he never got out of his clothes. They were yoga-type pull-on clothes that are easy to mix up. He allegedly went to the doctor earlier that day. I tend to think he put them on wrong when at the doctor. I've been deathly ill before with a very long recovery. The only time I put my clothes on wrong was after one the the numerous dr. appts I had during my long recovery. P wasn't feeling well. You just want to get the hell out of the doctor's office and get home (and I tend to wear similar clothing if I'm not going anywhere special).

Just my two cents. Of course it's speculation. We just don't know.

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this guts me but I will say that when I was stabliing on my meds, I put on my yoga pants and tank backwards and went to the grocery store in them. a woman told me in line that they were on wrong. i can only imagine that upon taking meds, he started feeling ill, dizzy or "off", started to panic (remembering the plane incident) and grabbed clothes off the floor to try to find help. how many times have we thought we had "enough time" to make it to the toilet to barf but panicked last second because we realized we wouldn't make it? not to make light, but just as an example.

he was a tight dresser for work, but at home I am sure he just relaxed like we all do, didn't he say to Oprah that when not working "He is clean" (no makeup, no fancy clothing etc)

Speculation at best on my side.

Also the idea of buying somebody else's legal scripts, can you imagine the blackmail they would have over him for God knows how long? If he bought or had somebody buy it for him off street, it would be their (dealer's) word over his word (Prince would vigorously defend his image) of course, he could've bought it online too - the know how is out there, it is not hard at all.

All he wanted was hydrocodone, how many of us have that shit (legit) in our cabinets at home? Clean hydrocodone in syrup or tabs, this could have been easily avoided and yes I do point fingers at those who helped him BY TURNING THEIR GAZE the other way - Come on, if you are able to score legit script for whatever (as posted in Australian newspaper) you can easily get legit hydrocodone. Shit, he could've gotten it from his doctor on the 20th...it is still legal. Now, this is fucking pissing me off, all of this over the stigma of "drug use".....the sin of pride in it's glory.

this shit is almost enough to make be give up even trying to make sense out of any of it.

bluenotes said:

Just watching Something in the Water from Manchester 2014. At the beginning he asks the audience "What you doing wearing your sweater backwards?"

I never noticed this before and might not be quoting it exactly right. I was listening to it because when I think of how fucked up everything has become, my first thought is "Something in the water does not compute!"

fucking bizarre, i believe in artists being prophets too.

purplerabbithole said:

This article is depressing as hell if it is true. For one thing, he was clueless as to the strength of the pills he was given. My theory is that someone got him the supposed hydrocodone illegally because no legit doctor would give it to him legally. He thought it was hydrocodone but it was instead fentanyl. When he realized he had taken something else, he threw on his clothes and just didn't make it to a phone or help quick enough.

The article indicated that counterfit drugs were sometimes fentanyl instead of what they were labeled as. I don't think the person who got the drug knew they were giving him the wrong stuff. But whoever obtained those drugs for him should face jail time (IMO).

Also sad (if it is true) is that he was on pills for localized pain (lidocaine [sic]) and anti-anxiety pills (alprazolam) apparently. Poor guy. NOt sure whether the anti-anxiety pills were for his withdrawal symptoms as a result of the Narcon or just something he was always on.

I know too many people (especially middle aged people) on pills like these. People need to find other ways to deal with anxiety and pain.

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Purplerabbithole, I like your hypothesis am in agreement with it. You're making pretty measured and conservative (in a good way) inferences based on the evidence presented and relevant background knowledge. You're not reading too much into the situation. I feel that your hypothesis really just flows from the evidence provided.

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I can't jump to what I consider more extreme conclusions, such as him being murdered, because I don't see evidence to support that. But time will tell. I expect there to be much more information to come out in the future regarding Prince's death.

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Regardless of what happened, it's very sad. His music and purple love remains, but I wish Prince was still with us in the flesh, and I'm sure everyone else on here feels the same way.

lwr001 said:

Namelessfan said:

if he didn't have the fentanyl in his system, what caused the plane incident? Od on different stuff? Or something else?

PeteSilas said:

if he didn't have the fentanyl in his system, what caused the plane incident? Od on different stuff? Or something else?

As part of the investigation, Carver County subpoenaed his medical records from Moline, Ill. Whatever they determined then would be known to Carver County.

Like everything else, just because they haven't divulged what they know doesn't mean that some extreme possibility is a better explanation.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

EnDoRpHn said:

"Tests on Prince prior to his death did not show fentanyl in his system, which means he wasn't a long-time abuser of that drug, but likely took the fatal dose sometime in the 24 hours before he died, the official said."

http://hosted.ap.org/dyna...1-15-34-36

sonshine said:

LBrent said:

EXACTLY. But since the security cameras, etc were not ON we don't know who was at PP, what might have happened, or what timeline. How convenient for the guilty party/parties.

Anything is possible. But for me it's a stretch to believe it was something that sinister, or that well thought out and planned. The security stuff being turned off could have just been due to a general lack of attention to details around PP since there was just not a lot going on with P and PP as it was in the past. At least I hope P didn't have those kind of mortal enemies stalking him. He was dealing with these confirmed pain med issues and I think thats all that was going on at the time rather than elaborate plots to kill hm. Just my opinion tho.

I was not thinking about a plot to kill him. I was thinking about him having a friend over and she did not want anyone to know that she was there. When he fell unconscious, she dressed him and bailed, but had nothing to do with the pills. Just a thought. I'm not saying that's what happened. It's only 1 explanation for the clothes being on backwards.

1.Well, conspricay or not , "Dr. D" must've been clairvoyant. Either that ,or he/she is working for the Star Tribune too. Whoever he/she is, this person has at least mentioned two of the drugs (possibly 3) that was mentioned in the star tribune write up on August 21st. This person mentioned this back on April 23rd. How odd that he also mentioned Prince's drug usage and stage fright in the same sentence. No way we would believe that either. According to "Dr.D" he was always a very nervous person. This Star Tribune "source" mentions the presence of Alprazolam (think anxiety disorders). If its true, this person ("Dr.D") should help us all out with picking out the next lottery numbers. He/she is pretty good.

2.How odd was that he/she ("Dr.D) mentioned fentanyl before an autopsy was done. What are the chances of him nailing that one?

3.It seems that the "investigators are leaning towards the theory that he took the drug not knowing it contained the drug (fentanyl)? Really? So, did he buy/recieved an opiate, call it by another name, yet it had the same effect? Why is this even a shock?

4.Well, were any of you at the Atlanta show? How about backstage?Did you see what he looked like? Did you see the face? What happened right after he left the show? Can someone tell me where he got anything from( he didnt have a prescription) in order to get zonked out of his mind by the time he got on the plane? Did he buy it in Atlanta, or did he have some on him before he got to Atlanta?

You mean to tell me you almsot died , yet you chose to repeat the same pattern just for kicks? You weren't addicted? Are we measuring Prince's intelligence?

5.It's all so plain. Help me out.

Prince was seeing a doctor because of pain medication addiction. He started treatment on April 7th. People are dropping like flies because of street opiates being laced with other drugs, yet people get on here and act like Prince was the only one to have had this happen and put the tin foil hats on and conjure up a murder plot. The sad truth is that he got addicted to opiates and was buying them from unsafe sources and fell victim to what so many are falling victim to. The sad thing is that if he had sought the correct type of help, and not from some ob/gyn doctor, he would probably still be here. It's so unfortunate. Someone asked about what he overdosed on prior if no fentanyl was in his system prior. The shelf life is 17 hours for Fentanyl. So a few days and it would have been out of his system. Gotta hand it to him, he was one strong man to even attempt to cold turkey these drugs.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

lwr001 said:

If you get caught with pain mess without a script you have a problem. It's fine for you , as you could produce a script for said medicine. He could not do that. Totally different scenaript

That's right. The BBC News article I read stated "Officials told the Associated Press the singer had no prescriptions for controlled substances at the time." Xanax is controlled. I also read a different article that stated he had a prescription in another person's name. Sucks to be that person right now.

Just to clarify, that's not what I was talking about though. I was replying to someone else, who commented that it was not unusual for people to put meds in another bottle and that was all I was addressing. The person you quoted just interjected themselves into the exchange for no reason.

We all know that Xanax is a controlled substance.