FUNKNROLL said:

EnDoRpHn said:

babynoz said:

Wtf are you even talking about? Did you actually read what I wrote or are you just randomly babbling? Did you miss this, Einstein?

"The fact that he still had the woolen cap on suggests that he had not taken his street clothes off yet."

Show me where I said any of what you are projecting onto me? How am I complicating anything when I said the same damn thing you said about the cap?

Did you quote the wrong post or something?

No, Dr. Watson, I wasn't responding directly to your post, I was talking about the general tenor of the several hundred on this thread.

Amazing that people here wanna start arguing with someone who is agreeing with them.

Nice try but backpedaling is not agreeing,

If you were agreeing then who is "you all" that you were referring to?

If you wanted to address the general tenor then don't quote. Simple.

EnDoRpHn said:

herb4 said:

1Sasha said:

Doesn't murder include "intent?" Manslaughter, maybe. I still want to see the entire autopsy report.

Yes, it does. Like if you get drunk and kill someone driving, it's not murder it's manslaughter. Now, if someone put fent in Prince's food or slipped it into his drink, it's murder.

Also, where is everyone able to cite as fact that Prince had no legit prescriptions for pain medication? Maybe I missed it but I've never seen that verified. Maybe he didn't have a scrop for the BOTTLE IN HIS POCKET, which explains the street counterfeit fentanyl issue, but I've never seen Prince's legal medications listed anywhere one way or the other.

link?

I'm no lawyer, but doesn't it depend on the state as to what it's called? It certainly wouldn't be 1st degree.

rogifan said:

herb4 said:

Maybe he obtained them through someone else that DID have one. That makes the most sense.

Except I could swear one of the original stories (perhaps in the star tribune) claimed there was no doctor shopping or prescriptions in some one else's name. Though I suppose someone else could have had a legit prescription and shared that medication with Prince...

You read correctly.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

No your suspicions are based on TMZ's pics. Prince came from Dr. S with Rx that were filled at the Pharmcy no pain meds were given to him by Dr. S none were filled at the Pharmacy or any Walgreens in the area. He was not a drug seeker hanging out at the Walgreens looking for pain meds he was filling the Rxs Dr. S gave him after his visit on April 20th 2016. All of this information came out before the serch warrent was sealed and some of it is repeated in the AP story. I would love it if the former drug users would stop projecting.

I am going to assume he had these fake Hydro pills in a stock pile at PP or had someone bring them to him. P was not going to be on some corner buying drugs and I will never believe he got them from the internet. I believe someone he knew took care of this for him and fucked up with obtaining the fake pills. For all we know he may have been trying to ween himself or maybe he was in a shit load of pain but I feel like he got a raw deal and if someone was enabling that should go to jail.

[Edited 8/21/16 14:09pm]

So the AP claiming no prescriptions were found were only referring to painkillers and the prescription from his doctor was for something else? They didn't clearly state that in their story. Almost makes me wonder if there are multiple leakers and they've just not done a very good job coordinating their stories.

They have never said what the Rxs were that Dr. S prescribed or what his test were for. They can't because of patient confindentialy but they did say they were not for pain meds.

They said before the serch warrent was closed that he went to Walgreens to get the Rxs filled. Now maybe he did not actually pick them up or maybe he threw them away who knows but since they found the anti-seziure meds and xaxan in his system maybe that is what Dr. S prescribed those are not pain meds and the police would not be interested in those as a part of the crime investigation.

Of course they would look at the test he took with Dr. S because that would tell you what was in system the day before he died that is one of the reasons they used to determine that the Fentaynl was accidental because he did not have in his system the day before. I am assuming like most drugs it does not vanish from your system in a day.

laurarichardson said:

herb4 said:

That's my suspicion. Seems like the most likely explanation. The Walgreen's visit smakcs for all the world like a drug seeker trying to get a refill a day before the pharmacy will release it. The educated guess I have is that he wasn't due for a refill for a day or two, went to Walgreen's jonesing and trying and then, when that failed, someone hooked up with turned out to be street level, fent laced hyrdos.

It's going around. People by pill presses and make their own painkillers. A lot of heroin is laced with fent too and fucking a lot of people up.

No your suspicions are based on TMZ's pics. Prince came from Dr. S with Rx that were filled at the Pharmcy no pain meds were given to him by Dr. S none were filled at the Pharmacy or any Walgreens in the area. He was not a drug seeker hanging out at the Walgreens looking for pain meds he was filling the Rxs Dr. S gave him after his visit on April 20th 2016. All of this information came out before the serch warrent was sealed and some of it is repeated in the AP story. I would love it if the former drug users would stop projecting.

I am going to assume he had these fake Hydro pills in a stock pile at PP or had someone bring them to him. P was not going to be on some corner buying drugs and I will never believe he got them from the internet. I believe someone he knew took care of this for him and fucked up with obtaining the fake pills. For all we know he may have been trying to ween himself or maybe he was in a shit load of pain but I feel like he got a raw deal and if someone was enabling that should go to jail.

[Edited 8/21/16 14:09pm]

Then what the fuck was he doing at Walgreen's the night before he died? Emergency Tootsie Pop run?

As a recovering addict myself, I can recognize drug seeking behavior when I see it and connect a few dots here and there. Everything I'm reading and learning sseems like someone with a very serious problem who was jonesing hard/withdrawing and hitting up his usual avenues and connections. Did everyone just up and forget about the emergency plane landing, the "flu" and the cancelled shows?

We're in agreement on a few things though.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

No your suspicions are based on TMZ's pics. Prince came from Dr. S with Rx that were filled at the Pharmcy no pain meds were given to him by Dr. S none were filled at the Pharmacy or any Walgreens in the area. He was not a drug seeker hanging out at the Walgreens looking for pain meds he was filling the Rxs Dr. S gave him after his visit on April 20th 2016. All of this information came out before the serch warrent was sealed and some of it is repeated in the AP story. I would love it if the former drug users would stop projecting.

I am going to assume he had these fake Hydro pills in a stock pile at PP or had someone bring them to him. P was not going to be on some corner buying drugs and I will never believe he got them from the internet. I believe someone he knew took care of this for him and fucked up with obtaining the fake pills. For all we know he may have been trying to ween himself or maybe he was in a shit load of pain but I feel like he got a raw deal and if someone was enabling that should go to jail.

[Edited 8/21/16 14:09pm]

So the AP claiming no prescriptions were found were only referring to painkillers and the prescription from his doctor was for something else? They didn't clearly state that in their story. Almost makes me wonder if there are multiple leakers and they've just not done a very good job coordinating their stories.

Yes, no opiate prescriptions - BUT, given that he was also found to have anti-anxiety meds in his system, it could have been those for which he had the Dr S script he filled at Walgreens.

BillieBalloon said:

laurarichardson said:

I would hope if he had no pants on someone would have put some on before the paramedics came. I mean damm that is the least you can do.

Why would they bother putting socks on him? I don't know, none of us do but I think Prince dressed himself.

Why assume he didn't have socks on anyway? There are people who leave socks on pretty much all the time, regardless of what else they're wearing. (and some of them wear them inside out).

LoriJ said:

leadline said:

Who said Prince hid them? All we know is that they were found. We have no idea if it was Prince or someone else that put the drugs in there. Until we have more facts, all possibilities exist.

[Edited 8/21/16 13:30pm]

Link to most recent news story

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Pills-Found-at-Princes-Estate-Contained-Fentanyl-Officials-390850061.html

Off topic, Jim McLaughlin died?

I used to watch him yelling on public television years ago.

LBrent said:

rogifan said:

IF this is legit I too hope it's not a family member or friend. Even if someone is arrested it still leaves questions around why he needed this stuff and why someone had to get it illegally for him. Unless there was foul play involved, then that's a whole other conversation.

I'm not going to say a single solitary word, but I'm sure you can catch my drift. I'm shutting up now so this thread remains open.

herb4 said:

1Sasha said:

Doesn't murder include "intent?" Manslaughter, maybe. I still want to see the entire autopsy report.

Yes, it does. Like if you get drunk and kill someone driving, it's not murder it's manslaughter. Now, if someone put fent in Prince's food or slipped it into his drink, it's murder.

Also, where is everyone able to cite as fact that Prince had no legit prescriptions for pain medication? Maybe I missed it but I've never seen that verified. Maybe he didn't have a scrop for the BOTTLE IN HIS POCKET, which explains the street counterfeit fentanyl issue, but I've never seen Prince's legal medications listed anywhere one way or the other.

link?

Before the serch warrent was sealed it was stated that it was found by law enforcement that P never filled any pain meds at that Walgreens or any around in the area. In addtion, Dr. S never prescribed him any pain meds. No one say he never had a pain med Rx in life. Just he did not get any from Dr. S or any from the Walgreen around.

I firmly believe he was on pain management and it went bad. I think somewere along the way we will find out more about it. If you look on that Minn tv station KSPT you might find the article about the findings of the serch warrent and someone has reposted it on this board.

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

FUNKNROLL said:

People please make this known. Via Billboard - officials say Prince's autopsy shows he was NOT a long time Fentanyl abuser. This is tragic but needs to be heard. "Tests on Prince prior to his death did not show fentanyl in his system, which means he wasn't a long-time abuser of that drug, but likely took the fatal dose sometime in the 24 hours before he died, the official said." http://www.billboard.com/...watson-385

Most likely if he was getting something illegally he got a bad batch that was laced with fentanyl and he didn't know it. There's a reason the Sherrif's office said right away they had no reason to believe it was suicide and that the medical examiner's report said it was an accidental overdose. I've said before I think this was pain management gone horribly wrong and these two articles do nothing to change my opinion on that.

Totally agree.

babynoz said:

LBrent said:

rogifan said: I'm not going to say a single solitary word, but I'm sure you can catch my drift. I'm shutting up now so this thread remains open.

What's going on here? I think I know but is this a "he who shall not be named" sort of thing?

laurarichardson said:

paulludvig said:

herb4 said:

laurarichardson said:

No your suspicions are based on TMZ's pics. Prince came from Dr. S with Rx that were filled at the Pharmcy no pain meds were given to him by Dr. S none were filled at the Pharmacy or any Walgreens in the area. He was not a drug seeker hanging out at the Walgreens looking for pain meds he was filling the Rxs Dr. S gave him after his visit on April 20th 2016. All of this information came out before the serch warrent was sealed and some of it is repeated in the AP story. I would love it if the former drug users would stop projecting.

I am going to assume he had these fake Hydro pills in a stock pile at PP or had someone bring them to him. P was not going to be on some corner buying drugs and I will never believe he got them from the internet. I believe someone he knew took care of this for him and fucked up with obtaining the fake pills. For all we know he may have been trying to ween himself or maybe he was in a shit load of pain but I feel like he got a raw deal and if someone was enabling that should go to jail.

[Edited 8/21/16 14:09pm]

Then what the fuck was he doing at Walgreen's the night before he died? Emergency Tootsie Pop run?

As a recovering addict myself, I can recognize drug seeking behavior when I see it and connect a few dots here and there. Everything I'm reading and learning sseems like someone with a very serious problem who was jonesing hard/withdrawing and hitting up his usual avenues and connections. Did everyone just up and forget about the emergency plane landing, the "flu" and the cancelled shows?

We're in agreement on a few things though.

Filling the Rx that Dr. S wrote for him. The police would know if he got any paid meds from the Walgreens or if Dr. S wrote any for him they said that was not the case. He had Xanax and Anti-Seizure meds in his systems so maybe he got those from Dr. S. I find it interesting that no one is interested in the anti-seizure meds which can cause all sorts of problems when mixed with other drugs. You cannot even drink alcohol while taking them.

babynoz said:

herb4 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

lwr001 said:

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

But they did not say they found any of the stuff in his medicial test from the before. The autopsy report had these drugs in his system

diazepam, lidocaine and hydrocodone acids in his body. The diazepam is the anti-seizure meds,

lidocaine were found in the fake pills along with the fentenyl.

and hydrocodone - we still do not too much about but maybe some of it was in the Watson 360 pills since they were labled as such.

Let it sink in that they did not say anything about a whole bunch of other drugs and no long term use of Fentanyl.

They said no fentynal. You act like xanax ND hydrocodone cocktail won't kill yiu, it will

You just do not read well. I have mentioned a few times that mixing the Xanax and hydro and the seizure med he was not going to be long for this world. He knew or thought he was taking the hydro and I suspect he had Rx for the Xanax and anti-seizure meds so he had to know he was rolling dice.

babynoz said:

EddieC said:

rogifan said:

lwr001 said:

They said no fentynal. You act like xanax ND hydrocodone cocktail won't kill yiu, it will

ME report said cause of death was fentanyl.

Yes, but mixing the things he may or may not have had an Rx for was rolling the dice.

Cmon y'all. Is Laura the only one reading the article?

People would not have to keep asking the same questions over and over if they would just read.....Herb,


"The official who spoke to the AP said records show the 57-year-old Prince had no prescription for any controlled substances in the state of Minnesota in the 12 months before he died."

babynoz said: