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Reply #720 posted 08/21/16 12:22pm

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lwr001 said:

20 bottles plus put in the one marked vitamin c when he travelled. Let that sink in

But they did not say they found any of the stuff in his medicial test from the before. The autopsy report had these drugs in his system

diazepam, lidocaine and hydrocodone acids in his body. The diazepam is the anti-seizure meds,

lidocaine were found in the fake pills along with the fentenyl.

and hydrocodone - we still do not too much about but maybe some of it was in the Watson 360 pills since they were labled as such.

Let it sink in that they did not say anything about a whole bunch of other drugs and no long term use of Fentanyl.

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Reply #721 posted 08/21/16 12:24pm

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NinaB said:

what are the most likely reasons to need hydrocondone & acedemedfine? What are they mainly prescribed for?

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Pain killer and aspirian

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Reply #722 posted 08/21/16 12:25pm

LBrent

lwr001 said:

LBrent said:



This is not true.

In 34 years as an RN I've had to shroud many deceased patients, including initial undressing, bathing and redressing them...I never had to break any bones to do it. We had protocols to try to contact the doctor, family and funeral home within 12 hours at the most.




So 3 to 4 hours after deatj, you an RN is dressing someone


There have been times when a patient has died before a shift change and we are awaiting a doctor to pronounce and sign the death certificate. I've had to wait before shrouding the body. It has only happened a handful of times where I was waiting as long as 6-8 hours, but it has happened.

I'm not a "do as I say" supervisor. I am a "let me show you how" supervisor.
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Reply #723 posted 08/21/16 12:25pm

babynoz

Okay, the Strib says.....

Sources with knowledge of the investigation have said that autopsy results also revealed the presence of lidocaine, alprazolam and Percocet.



And the Ap says.....

The autopsy report also shows Prince had diazepam, lidocaine and hydrocodone acids in his body, the official said. Diazepam is an anti-anxiety pill sold as Valium. It's a sedative and can also be used to control seizures, which Prince suffered from as a child. Lidocaine is a local anesthetic.



Alprazolam is Xanax and Diazepam is Valium.......which was it? rolleyes

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #724 posted 08/21/16 12:26pm

Camille10

LuxLove said:



nursev said:


and for you silly ass newbies who just joined in June shame on you cuz ain't a damn thing funny about death and grief.


What do you mean - 'newbies' here have been making fun of Prince dying or fans mourning? Must've missed that, but then I don't read everything. I know the org is very negative but didn't think it was that bad. From what I've seen & in my own experience the 'newbies' who joined post April did so because they were grieving & wanted to be around like minded people. Can't say the same for the 'old' fans who were hating on Prince constantly before he died. Shame it took his death for some to appreciate him. Anyway no one should be making fun of this situation- we're all in the same boat.


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Reply #725 posted 08/21/16 12:27pm

morningsong

Jeanette was only interesting to me because she represented the idea that Prince could very well associate with a vast number of people outside of his known click. These articles keep saying the authorities don't know where he got these pills, meaning they've talked to everyone that Prince supposedly knew. This hurts so badly. I'm believing he was trying to accomplish something and was willing to do it by any means necessary and probably kept those closest to him in the dark. I seriously wish I knew where he was trying to go, but unfortunately his the only one that knew that.
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Reply #726 posted 08/21/16 12:28pm

paulludvig

Is there really a point trying to hide illicit drugs in vitamin bottles if the pills themself are labeled?
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #727 posted 08/21/16 12:29pm

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Dibblekins said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, I do think those are test the doctor order. I am thinking a full test of bloodwork. I still think he was sick with something since the doctor came to him with the test results and maybe that is the reason he was staring to gobbled these pills but they were mis-labled and they are not saying if the other pills were in his system. His bodyguard did say he never saw anything in his bag but he sent that bobyguard a way and was only with Kirk on that trip to Atlanta.

Don't forget also that he had the Narcon shots prior to his tests with Dr S - they would have cleared his system of any opiates / fentanyl - so it is possible he'd taken them before but had his system cleared of them just in time for the bloodwork.

Does not appear that the investigators think that and once again I do not believe he would have been able to hide Fentanyl use from everyone he encountered.

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Reply #728 posted 08/21/16 12:29pm

babynoz

LBrent said:

babynoz said:



So do I. The fact that he still had the woolen cap on suggests that he had not taken his street clothes off yet. Nobody in distress is going to say, "oops, I forgot my cap" and then run right past a phone to the elevator. He passed that night, never knowing that he'd taken fentanyl IMO.


Years ago, one of my patients had a phone in the elevator of their mansion. Is that normal? Then did P's elevator have a phone?



In our jurisdiction a business must have emergency equipment in an elevator, i.e., phone and alarm button, per the fire dept.

I am not sure about private residences, but since PP was a commercial establishment as well I can't fathom a phone not being in there. It's not like he couldn't afford it.

Strange indeed.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #729 posted 08/21/16 12:29pm

LBrent

jsb23nc said:



LuxLove said:


According to the second story he had pills in someone elses name? Pills in vitamin bottles? No way I do not believe it - I'm not some stan in denial here either this truly is bullshit. This is not Prince no way.




The pills in vitamin bottles or aspirin bottles isn't a big deal to me, especially for someone who travels a lot. I take 9 pills daily for ulcerative colitis plus a vitamin. I also frequently take advil for joint and have a hydrocodone presciption for joint pain as well (lots of ankle/foot injuries from sports). I frequently travel for work. When I pack my bags, I put all of those pills in the same bottle for convenience and to travel lighter. So, again, that is not a red flag at all.



I do this to save room when I travel, too.
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Reply #730 posted 08/21/16 12:31pm

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paulludvig said:

Is there really a point trying to hide illicit drugs in vitamin bottles if the pills themself are labeled?

No not really. I think most people know what a vitamin looks like biggrin He could not have been doing any of this stuff for a long time.

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Reply #731 posted 08/21/16 12:31pm

LuxLove

morningsong said:

Jeanette was only interesting to me because she represented the idea that Prince could very well associate with a vast number of people outside of his known click. These articles keep saying the authorities don't know where he got these pills, meaning they've talked to everyone that Prince supposedly knew. This hurts so badly. I'm believing he was trying to accomplish something and was willing to do it by any means necessary and probably kept those closest to him in the dark. I seriously wish I knew where he was trying to go, but unfortunately his the only one that knew that.


Have they spoken to everyone though because I really wonder if they've had conversations with Van, Damaris, Funkenberry etc. I would love to know the answer to that.

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Reply #732 posted 08/21/16 12:32pm

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babynoz said:

Okay, the Strib says.....

Sources with knowledge of the investigation have said that autopsy results also revealed the presence of lidocaine, alprazolam and Percocet.



And the Ap says.....

The autopsy report also shows Prince had diazepam, lidocaine and hydrocodone acids in his body, the official said. Diazepam is an anti-anxiety pill sold as Valium. It's a sedative and can also be used to control seizures, which Prince suffered from as a child. Lidocaine is a local anesthetic.



Alprazolam is Xanax and Diazepam is Valium.....which was it? rolleyes


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Reply #733 posted 08/21/16 12:32pm

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paulludvig said:

Is there really a point trying to hide illicit drugs in vitamin bottles if the pills themself are labeled?


If you believe his death was not an accident, it's all part of the set up by whoever did this to him imo, make him look like a junky, make him look like he was hiding something. These bottles were probably tampered with after he died.

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Reply #734 posted 08/21/16 12:32pm

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I wouldn't be surprised if he needed anti-anxiety meds to cope with the stress of concealing what he was doing...Poor lamb. It wouldn't make him a hypocrite; just someone under huge amounts of self-inflicted pressure to keep on performing; keep on living - and yet they did the opposite.

what you say could be true for sure. but I know also that chronic pain will *cause* anxiety...its just how the body reacts to continual pain. so, many doctors will prescribe chronic pain sufferers some kind of anti-anxiety med (or even antidepressants) because it can help with pain control as well as help the patient relax and/or sleep better (which in turn,can help a patient better cope with chronic pain). some doctors will prescribe the anti anxiety med as more OF a sleep aid than moreso for anxiety and Prince was well known to have trouble sleeping. so there are a few different possibilities why he might have been taking anti anxiety medication.

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Reply #735 posted 08/21/16 12:34pm

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LBrent said:

jsb23nc said:

The pills in vitamin bottles or aspirin bottles isn't a big deal to me, especially for someone who travels a lot. I take 9 pills daily for ulcerative colitis plus a vitamin. I also frequently take advil for joint and have a hydrocodone presciption for joint pain as well (lots of ankle/foot injuries from sports). I frequently travel for work. When I pack my bags, I put all of those pills in the same bottle for convenience and to travel lighter. So, again, that is not a red flag at all.

I do this to save room when I travel, too.

I take sleeping pills and I have slipped a few in an bottle if I am going to be away for a day or two.

Just do not want to take a chance of losing the whole bottle and going thru all kinds of crap to get them refilled early. Like I said the mention the rest of the autosy and they do not mention anything beyond the seizure, licodine and hydrocodone and of course the fentanyl. This is the media they would gladly print as much as they could find out.

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Reply #736 posted 08/21/16 12:35pm

morningsong

LuxLove said:



morningsong said:


Jeanette was only interesting to me because she represented the idea that Prince could very well associate with a vast number of people outside of his known click. These articles keep saying the authorities don't know where he got these pills, meaning they've talked to everyone that Prince supposedly knew. This hurts so badly. I'm believing he was trying to accomplish something and was willing to do it by any means necessary and probably kept those closest to him in the dark. I seriously wish I knew where he was trying to go, but unfortunately his the only one that knew that.


Have they spoken to everyone though because I really wonder if they've had conversations with Van, Damaris, Funkenberry etc. I would love to know the answer to that.




It would explain why nobody's talking, because of the on going criminal investigation. I have no idea who the DEA would choose to talk to but in 16 weeks I'm sure they've had time to talk to a large number of people.
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Reply #737 posted 08/21/16 12:35pm

muleFunk

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laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

20 bottles plus put in the one marked vitamin c when he travelled. Let that sink in

But they did not say they found any of the stuff in his medicial test from the before. The autopsy report had these drugs in his system

diazepam, lidocaine and hydrocodone acids in his body. The diazepam is the anti-seizure meds,

lidocaine were found in the fake pills along with the fentenyl.

and hydrocodone - we still do not too much about but maybe some of it was in the Watson 360 pills since they were labled as such.

Let it sink in that they did not say anything about a whole bunch of other drugs and no long term use of Fentanyl.

The thing that is standing out here is the fact that this is just now leaking.

The CNN article was after the house was swept by DEA.

The "person" with the perscription left at PP would have been interviewed by law enforcement by now how old are the meds?

Someone leaving a bottle of pills does not mean that Prince used them.

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Reply #738 posted 08/21/16 12:35pm

Dibblekins

slowlywiltingflower said:

Dibblekins said:

I wouldn't be surprised if he needed anti-anxiety meds to cope with the stress of concealing what he was doing...Poor lamb. It wouldn't make him a hypocrite; just someone under huge amounts of self-inflicted pressure to keep on performing; keep on living - and yet they did the opposite.

what you say could be true for sure. but I know also that chronic pain will *cause* anxiety...its just how the body reacts to continual pain. so, many doctors will prescribe chronic pain sufferers some kind of anti-anxiety med (or even antidepressants) because it can help with pain control as well as help the patient relax and/or sleep better (which in turn,can help a patient better cope with chronic pain). some doctors will prescribe the anti anxiety med as more OF a sleep aid than moreso for anxiety and Prince was well known to have trouble sleeping. so there are a few different possibilities why he might have been taking anti anxiety medication.

Yes, all of that is true...Like you, I've been there...I'm just trying to consider all possibilities. I should think he was under a lot of stress for various reasons: pain, pressure, sleeplessness, attempted withdrawal - all sorts.

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Reply #739 posted 08/21/16 12:36pm

babynoz

paulludvig said:

Is there really a point trying to hide illicit drugs in vitamin bottles if the pills themself are labeled?



I've been knows to throw pain meds in my asprin bottle to travel when I didn't want to bring the whole shebang along. I've thrown them in my makeup bag loose too.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #740 posted 08/21/16 12:37pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:



NinaB said:


what are the most likely reasons to need hydrocondone & acedemedfine? What are they mainly prescribed for?

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Pain killer and aspirian


Acetaminophen, otherwise known as Tylenol.
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Reply #741 posted 08/21/16 12:37pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Seems someone switched pills on Prince.
Sorry if this has been said before ...
Something that is still not sounding right is the dr from Cali seemed to have knowledge of the fentanyl. How did he know that?
I really think this was done to Prince
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Reply #742 posted 08/21/16 12:40pm

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leadline said:

paulludvig said:

Is there really a point trying to hide illicit drugs in vitamin bottles if the pills themself are labeled?


If you believe his death was not an accident, it's all part of the set up by whoever did this to him imo, make him look like a junky, make him look like he was hiding something. These bottles were probably tampered with after he died.

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What is wierd is that this stuff was lying around in the open . The serch did not take place for a least a week or two after he died. Who had access to Paisley Park prior to the serch warrent and don't you think his family would have gone up to his living quarters. I am not saying to cover up anything but I am sorry I know on an emotional level you do not want the police to find anything embarrassing and you want to make sure they do not plant anything by checking it out for yourself first. I had a relative who complained of chest pain. I called 911 quized hin about what they had been taking they said nothing but I checked their pockets and belongings to be sure. They had noting and it was just due to the flu but I was not going to be in a home with illegal drugs.

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Reply #743 posted 08/21/16 12:40pm

EddieC

I'm only on page 8 of this thread, but I'm really upset. If I didn't avoid swearing on the internet, that's all this post would be. I really want this to go away... I was happier with what I'd made up after the information we already had. I really didn't need this to stir things up again.

I just read Tavis Smiley's last days of Michael Jackson book... I'm starting to thing this is going to turn out to be just as bad, if not worse. I hate that feeling.

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Reply #744 posted 08/21/16 12:41pm

LBrent

Mkilpatrick74 said:



manabean84 said:




strawberrylova123 said:


Lidocaine is for heart arrhythmia and Alprazolam is for anxiety....i dont know what to believe anymore.


My sister was given liquid lidocaine to numb pain from a galstone attack. I also had a friend given lidocaine to numb his esophagus due to a hernia. There is more than one use for it. Alprazolam, yes anxiety.



hmmm thts interesting. thinking back to the tummy issues his chef reported and requesting more smoothies. something deep in my gut says he ws battling the chronic pain along with another illness. domt attack me thats just my little ole humble opinion



I'm with you. I've been saying for awhile that in his last pictures I thought he looked like he had cancer. A very aggressive cancer discovered too late to treat would be consistent with the level of pain that required more aggressive pain management and medication.
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Reply #745 posted 08/21/16 12:41pm

morningsong

morningsong said:

LuxLove said:



morningsong said:


Jeanette was only interesting to me because she represented the idea that Prince could very well associate with a vast number of people outside of his known click. These articles keep saying the authorities don't know where he got these pills, meaning they've talked to everyone that Prince supposedly knew. This hurts so badly. I'm believing he was trying to accomplish something and was willing to do it by any means necessary and probably kept those closest to him in the dark. I seriously wish I knew where he was trying to go, but unfortunately his the only one that knew that.


Have they spoken to everyone though because I really wonder if they've had conversations with Van, Damaris, Funkenberry etc. I would love to know the answer to that.




It would explain why nobody's talking, because of the on going criminal investigation. I have no idea who the DEA would choose to talk to but in 16 weeks I'm sure they've had time to talk to a large number of people.



I'd imagine those same handful of people that keep being mentioned over and over again on the org probably were the first people talked to if they were talked to at all and were for the moment cleared, hence why the authorities don't know where these pills came from yet.
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Reply #746 posted 08/21/16 12:43pm

lunaysol

Camille10 said:

LuxLove said:


What do you mean - 'newbies' here have been making fun of Prince dying or fans mourning? Must've missed that, but then I don't read everything. I know the org is very negative but didn't think it was that bad. From what I've seen & in my own experience the 'newbies' who joined post April did so because they were grieving & wanted to be around like minded people. Can't say the same for the 'old' fans who were hating on Prince constantly before he died. Shame it took his death for some to appreciate him. Anyway no one should be making fun of this situation- we're all in the same boat.

yeahthat

This newbie fully agrees too.

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Reply #747 posted 08/21/16 12:43pm

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CooperC62057 said:

Here's a thought (as if we didn't have enough already). Perhaps he wasn't alone. Perhaps someone else was there who had their own issues or had been the source for obtaining the pills. You think they would stick around to be interrogated or implicated? Nope.

I must admit this crossed my mind too. It's not too far fetched. It could also explain why there's no security footage. Possibly deleted?
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Reply #748 posted 08/21/16 12:44pm

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morningsong said:

LuxLove said:


Have they spoken to everyone though because I really wonder if they've had conversations with Van, Damaris, Funkenberry etc. I would love to know the answer to that.

It would explain why nobody's talking, because of the on going criminal investigation. I have no idea who the DEA would choose to talk to but in 16 weeks I'm sure they've had time to talk to a large number of people.


Adrian is sort of talking.....

Adrian Crutchfield@GOODSAX 13m13 minutes ago

Like i been saying.... ... and dont believe the hype. Wasnt an accident...

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Reply #749 posted 08/21/16 12:44pm

LuxLove

I can't anymore. This is too depressing. Already seen shit talk about him online, thanks to the AP article his whole history is being explained away as "no wonder he could this that & the other" by sheeple dickheads who have no clue.

This is not Prince.

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