NinaB said:

In almost 40 years we've only got ONE street drug story. The E 28 years ago. Seems some would love it if he was bang on drugs for years. I don't look down on people battling drug addiction. I do have a problem with untruths. Everything points towards a struggle with pain & pain management.

This.

In terms of his death, that is. Who knows what ST is gunning for. I doubt it's evidence of drug use, but I've stated that repeatedly so I'll stop now. And, I don't think Mani needs much of a reason to fight it. They agreed to sealed files. I wouldn't want everyone all up in my business either, even if I didn't have anything to hide. Then it's just going to be endless fodder, with some people thinking she got too much and others that she got too little (or happy she got little). Why wouldn't she fight it? Ugh.

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teach49 said:

silentdaisy said:

I know you all don't know me - I've been a lurker for a long time loving all the P talk but until now I haven't had enough expertise in anything to comment. I've been a critical care nurse for the last 15 years - so I know quite a bit about pain meds. None of us knows for sure what health issues P had - and he was such a meticulously private man I think that's how he wanted it. The man chose to go on Oprah pretending everything was fine after his son died - so it seems that he'd go to great lengths to show a strong face. Fentanyl patches are a totally normal doctor-prescribed treatment for chronic pain. They would NEVER be prescribed for mild or short-term pain. A patient would have to be no longer getting pain relief from any other source in order to have these. For that reason I have to conclude that P did have chronic pain issues and had been treated for that for a long time. Anyone who's been on pain medication therapy for a very long time would never appear impaired in any way.

Thanks for sharing your expertise with us. Actually it makes a lot of sense what you said. In addition to that ,I remember reading in Possessed that people were saying in the ninties Prince was having problems with Percocet and in the late 90s it was getting really bad and people were concerned because his dark side was taking over more and more. I'm paraphrasing, I'm not trying to gossip but I just wanted to add that because it does add some support to your theory that he would have had to have built up a tolorance for painkillers to not appear out of it. Whether that part in the book is true or not, Prince's behavior did seem really odd/erratic at times in the 90s, you have to admit.

NinaB said:

teach49 said:

This.

Almost 4 months of this shite drugs, aids, cancer, liver disease...

So true. Ugh.

I hate it when people bring Occam's Razor into arguments, but it really is a good rule of thumb, absent evidence to the contrary.

teach49 said:

DollyDagger said:

teach49 said:

NinaB said:

teach49 said:

This.

In terms of his death, that is. Who knows what ST is gunning for. I doubt it's evidence of drug use, but I've stated that repeatedly so I'll stop now. And, I don't think Mani needs much of a reason to fight it. They agreed to sealed files. I wouldn't want everyone all up in my business either, even if I didn't have anything to hide. Then it's just going to be endless fodder, with some people thinking she got too much and others that she got too little (or happy she got little). Why wouldn't she fight it? Ugh.

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I ain't a fan of hers but I was right with her on fighting 2 keep them sealed. He wouldn't have stood 4 it.

And that's the truth!

teach49 said:

NinaB said:

teach49 said: I ain't a fan of hers but I was right with her on fighting 2 keep them sealed. He wouldn't have stood 4 it.

And that's the truth!

Seriously, we dont know what P would want, right?

He left without a will.

He knew the chaos it would cause.

Our P was not a simpleton.

There is a method behind his madness..

....of the mess you left behind when you went away.

I love that he has kept me interested.....

PurpleHeartBreak said:

My guess is since Manuela is worried about harassment, the documents will reveal that Prince did indeed carry the Pfieffer Syndrome gene.....that being the reason he did not want to try and have any more children. She wanted kids. That is just my guess, though. [Edited 8/15/16 12:22pm]

I assumed it was Mayte that had the gene because she later adopted right? I assume since Mayte wanted to have a child she would have given birth to one after her divorce to Prince.

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PurpleHeartBreak said:

My guess is since Manuela is worried about harassment, the documents will reveal that Prince did indeed carry the Pfieffer Syndrome gene.....that being the reason he did not want to try and have any more children. She wanted kids. That is just my guess, though. [Edited 8/15/16 12:22pm]

I assumed it was Mayte that had the gene because she later adopted right? I assume since Mayte wanted to have a child she would have given birth to one after her divorce to Prince.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

teach49 said:

And that's the truth!

Seriously, we dont know what P would want, right?

He left without a will.

He knew the chaos it would cause.

Our P was not a simpleton.

There is a method behind his madness..

....of the mess you left behind when you went away.

I love that he has kept me interested.....

I agree that we don't know what Prince would have wanted with regard to his estate. But, if you consider two facts -- that he agreed to seal the divorce files 10 years ago and he was reluctant to talk about his personal life to the press -- I think we can say with fairly reasonable accuracy that he would not want the ST to get his divorce files unsealed. Do we know his mind? No. But that's pretty good evidence that he would agree with Mani on this one.

The rest of it...what to do with his estate...you're right, we don't have a clue. Personally, I think preserving his legacy should be the priority, rather than second-guessing what he might have wanted. It's the living that have to deal with it, not the dead.

PurpleHeartBreak said:

LuxLove said:

Where did the info about him needing and refusing a transfusion come from?

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http://www.etonline.com/n...ting_2006/

I don't know but I wouldn't want a blood transfusion unless absolutely necessary.

NinaB said:

teach49 said:

NinaB said:

In almost 40 years we've only got ONE street drug story. The E 28 years ago. Seems some would love it if he was bang on drugs for years. I don't look down on people battling drug addiction. I do have a problem with untruths. Everything points towards a struggle with pain & pain management.

This.

Almost 4 months of this shite drugs, aids, cancer, liver disease...

oliviacamron said:

PurpleHeartBreak said:

My guess is since Manuela is worried about harassment, the documents will reveal that Prince did indeed carry the Pfieffer Syndrome gene.....that being the reason he did not want to try and have any more children. She wanted kids. That is just my guess, though. [Edited 8/15/16 12:22pm]

I assumed it was Mayte that had the gene because she later adopted right? I assume since Mayte wanted to have a child she would have given birth to one after her divorce to Prince.

the syndrome is not heriditary. it wasn't either one's fault. mayte adopted because she couldn't find someone to have a baby with. i can't figure why P didn't have kids in 5 yrs he was married to mt.

Mumio said:

Good, I'm glad information is coming out. There must be something there that is relevant and there's been way too much secrecy surrounding his death already.

I know this won't be a popular opinion but I don't care if others here like it or not. I'm tired of all the bs we've been fed.

I admit too. I want to know

^^^

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derrick31 said:

NinaB said:

Almost 4 months of this shite drugs, aids, cancer, liver disease...

The family could end this all with one sit down interview and talk about what happened to Prince.....if they even know.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

derrick31 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It appears Bremer Trust is fighting against the release of the divorce records.

Who gives a crap about Bremer Trust! They are selling Prince's properties and in control of his estate. Who the hell are they? I'm sure they are profiting handsomely from his death.

I was just giving out information. Dont be mad. But yes, they are profiting from his death as well as everyone else. P knew this.

morningsong said:

Well it looks like by the time anything comes out every possible scenerio will have been thoroughly examed here. Should we make a betting pool?

Why not? You first.

teach49 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Seriously, we dont know what P would want, right?

He left without a will.

He knew the chaos it would cause.

Our P was not a simpleton.

There is a method behind his madness..

....of the mess you left behind when you went away.

I love that he has kept me interested.....

I agree that we don't know what Prince would have wanted with regard to his estate. But, if you consider two facts -- that he agreed to seal the divorce files 10 years ago and he was reluctant to talk about his personal life to the press -- I think we can say with fairly reasonable accuracy that he would not want the ST to get his divorce files unsealed. Do we know his mind? No. But that's pretty good evidence that he would agree with Mani on this one.

The rest of it...what to do with his estate...you're right, we don't have a clue. Personally, I think preserving his legacy should be the priority, rather than second-guessing what he might have wanted. It's the living that have to deal with it, not the dead.

All too true.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

derrick31 said:

NinaB said:

teach49 said:

NinaB said:

In almost 40 years we've only got ONE street drug story. The E 28 years ago. Seems some would love it if he was bang on drugs for years. I don't look down on people battling drug addiction. I do have a problem with untruths. Everything points towards a struggle with pain & pain management.

This.

Almost 4 months of this shite drugs, aids, cancer, liver disease...

rogifan said:

NinaB said:

Almost 4 months of this shite drugs, aids, cancer, liver disease...

Don't forget murder.

1nteractive said: