ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Menes said: Haha haha!!!! Funny as heck lol!

Who has custody of Larry now?

When Larry told Prince to stop being a "sugar daddy" to all these women, the s*h*it hit the fan. There is but only so much "sugaring" one man can do . Larry hated competition. I know my sources.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

purplethunder3121 said:

This sucks.

Sure does smh.

No respect for the dead. Shame on the Star Tribune.

Yeah, I bet the Tribune will post stuff. Are they related to the National Enquirer?

Anything for the almighty $$$

Mkilpatrick74 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Camille10 said:

PurpleHeartBreak said: This is also my guess.

There would be NO SUCH thing in the court documents. None. Nada. It was an uncontested divorce. I want to scream this from the mountain tops. Lawd help me.

Scream away.

[Snip - luv4u]

Camille10 said:

PurpleHeartBreak said:

My guess is since Manuela is worried about harassment, the documents will reveal that Prince did indeed carry the Pfieffer Syndrome gene.....that being the reason he did not want to try and have any more children. She wanted kids. That is just my guess, though. [Edited 8/15/16 12:22pm]

This is also my guess.

This makes the most sense out of everything.

I was an investigator for 30 years. I put different scenarios together in order to look at things from different perspectives. "Being outside looking in". When Manuela and Prince got married, something just wasn't right about it to me. It seemed fakish. As time went on, the relationship appeared to be just a very good friendship not a marriage. " Just looking good together" kind of thing. My doubts came from Manuela not not so much Prince. I had thought that maybe they really hadn't gotten married but only agreed to live together for a set # of years, at the end of which she would get $XXX. But then I found that she filed for a divorce, thus they were married. Now my mind is really wondering why all the hoopla about the divorce settlement. There are settlement records on file that show she got over $200,000.00 so I wouldn't think that's it. Now my mind is running away with me...... was Manuela a US citizen? You have to be married to a US citizen for 5 years in order to become a US citizen, even if dual with Canada. They could have had an agreement at the onset. Kinda like "you help me , I'll help you" It was said that Prince did not want the divorce, but I'm not convinced that he really loved her. Maybe he just didn't want to go through all the media circus again. Another scenario is maybe she wanted children really badly and Prince had a vasectomy prior to their marriage and kept it from her. I am not in any way stoning Manuela. My thoughts on Mayte is that she was star struck and very young. Both have issues.

My opinion is that IF it is discovered when the records are unsealed that indeed Prince had a drug problem and Manuela tucked tail and ran rather that stand strong and do everything in her power to succeed in getting him the best help available, then she should be worried about being harassed. Folks have issues with her now, so can you imagine what it would be like then?? These are my thoughts and opinions. I do not mean to upset anyone. Just throwing thoughts and ideas out.

captiveunicorn said:

Mumio said:

Good, I'm glad information is coming out. There must be something there that is relevant and there's been way too much secrecy surrounding his death already.

I know this won't be a popular opinion but I don't care if others here like it or not. I'm tired of all the bs we've been fed.

I agree. And add to that - I'm perplexed by the increasing number of comments here like "we all know he was in pain and addicted to painkillers" like its some kind of well-known established fact. It's not. Up until April 21 hardly anyone would have DARED to suggest such a thing. Up until the cause of death was released people were hotly debating whether P would ever have even *touched* medication. Now we've suddenly got family members implying it was a matter of public record(!) that there had been pain/addiction issues. Beyond perplexed by it all.

+1. we are definately in the minority, but none of this sits well with me. and if what MT said is true, that they are looking for drug related info,then how does she even factor in? i would never want prince to go thru the BS they put MJ thru after his death it's no-ones business if he was circumcised or whatever. still, there are too many things unresolved,too many unanwsered questions. i'm sick to fuck and back of people who are just trying to make a good show of themselves, maintain a good look for the public. i believe he was more transparent than we gave him credit for(like someone said upthread) and i believe that he deserves thourough account/ honest tellling of how he suddenly ended up dead in an elevator.

++ tell the entire story

++ show the receipts

++ and let this dear soul rest in peace!!

Mkilpatrick74 said:

hahhahahaa morningsong....Thanks!

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There would be NO SUCH thing in the court documents. None. Nada. It was an uncontested divorce. I want to scream this from the mountain tops. Lawd help me.

Scream away.

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

I could sort of see this if Manuela was dead too (although would still be wrong), but seems like would violate her privacy to publish that information now. But probably another dumb law...not unusual of course.

laurarichardson said:

Wannabeyourlover1 said:

I read on another site that one of two things may be in those documents..... Either Manuela's bad behavior towards Prince, OR, that she divorced Prince because he was addicted to drugs. And that is why she is saying if the documents are released that the public will harass her. And if you guys remember what she posted on FB after their divorce, saying something to the effect that she hopes Prince wouldn't wind up on TV like Charlie Sheen. ( remember Charlies outburst about his drug addiction). After much critisism, Manuela took the post down. So, I am hoping they keep the dirt sealed. But, doesn't look that way.

I was wondering why they say she would be harrassed? Harrassed by whom, and for what?

laurarichardson said:

Wannabeyourlover1 said:

I read on another site that one of two things may be in those documents..... Either Manuela's bad behavior towards Prince, OR, that she divorced Prince because he was addicted to drugs. And that is why she is saying if the documents are released that the public will harass her. And if you guys remember what she posted on FB after their divorce, saying something to the effect that she hopes Prince wouldn't wind up on TV like Charlie Sheen. ( remember Charlies outburst about his drug addiction). After much critisism, Manuela took the post down. So, I am hoping they keep the dirt sealed. But, doesn't look that way.

-/ Once again so what if she divorced him because of drugs we know he was using drugs. Something else is going on. ST spent money an attorney for this.

I believed from the beginning that Manuela is not fighting this because she wants to protect Prince, but rather herself. That's why she argued before the court that she was concerned about harassment. Nothing was mentioned in the judge's ruling about her stating that the ST was looking for info on Prince's drug use. She also pointed out that the settlement agreement should be kept private. Did she get her hooks into too much of Prince's $$$ ?

jayspud said:

teach49 said:

In the US, you don't have to go into detail in a no-fault divorce, which is what they had. You might check a box that says "irreconcileable differences" but that's about it. I know this from familial experience with divorce, along with several lawyers on the org who have stated as much.

So, yeah, it's different here.

I must admit I have always found it strange that when you get married it is just assumed that you love each other and yet when you get divorced, apparently saying I no longer love that person, I don't thinkt anything bad of them but I just don't love them, isn't a valid reason.

Plenty of people fall out of love with their spouses. I would take being single over staying in a loveless marriage every single time.

And how long do you try to "save" someone until you realize that you might be in danger of drowning also? I say this not just about people you love. There are plenty of acquaintances I've had to cut from my life because for whatever reason I found them toxic and being around them brought me down. Life's too short.

1contessa said:

tmo1965 said:

laurarichardson said:

Wannabeyourlover1 said: -/ Once again so what if she divorced him because of drugs we know he was using drugs. Something else is going on. ST spent money an attorney for this.

I believed from the beginning that Manuela is not fighting this because she wants to protect Prince, but rather herself. That's why she argued before the court that she was concerned about harassment. Nothing was mentioned in the judge's ruling about her stating that the ST was looking for info on Prince's drug use. She also pointed out that the settlement agreement should be kept private. Did she get her hooks into too much of Prince's $$$ ?

If nobody around him ever saw him take a thing, not even an aspirin, how would Mani have divorced him for drug use lol. We don't know he was using drugs, at the very most, we know he 'may' have been perscribed something here or there for pain. That is a far cry from 'using drugs'.

She is protecting herself here, she simply does not want the public to know how much money she received or was still receiving.

leadline said:

She is protecting herself here, she simply does not want the public to know how much money she received or was still receiving.

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Agreed.

captiveunicorn said:

Mumio said:

Good, I'm glad information is coming out. There must be something there that is relevant and there's been way too much secrecy surrounding his death already.

I know this won't be a popular opinion but I don't care if others here like it or not. I'm tired of all the bs we've been fed.

I agree. And add to that - I'm perplexed by the increasing number of comments here like "we all know he was in pain and addicted to painkillers" like its some kind of well-known established fact. It's not. Up until April 21 hardly anyone would have DARED to suggest such a thing. Up until the cause of death was released people were hotly debating whether P would ever have even *touched* medication. Now we've suddenly got family members implying it was a matter of public record(!) that there had been pain/addiction issues. Beyond perplexed by it all.

I have to agree with you. I know that we Prince fans loved him, but let's face it, even the fans were questioning all the secrecy surrounding Prince's death, and like captiveunicorn said, it came as a shock to many of us that Prince was reportedly in pain, and used painkillers, when his death occured. Prince never revealed that to his fans! Maybe if the family wouldn't act as secretly about his death, cremating him so quickly, and sealing the autopsy and documents, then others wouldn't be questioning things, or be suspicious about anything.....just saying.

[Edited 8/15/16 16:57pm]

PurpleColossus said:

1contessa said:

captiveunicorn said:

I agree. And add to that - I'm perplexed by the increasing number of comments here like "we all know he was in pain and addicted to painkillers" like its some kind of well-known established fact. It's not. Up until April 21 hardly anyone would have DARED to suggest such a thing. Up until the cause of death was released people were hotly debating whether P would ever have even *touched* medication. Now we've suddenly got family members implying it was a matter of public record(!) that there had been pain/addiction issues. Beyond perplexed by it all.

I have to agree with you. I know that we Prince fans loved him, but let's face it, even the fans were questioning all the secrecy surrounding Prince's death, and like Mumio said, it came as a shock to many of us that Prince was reportedly in pain, and used painkillers, when his death occured. Prince never revealed that to his fans! Maybe if the family wouldn't act as secretly about his death, cremating him so quickly, and sealing the autopsy and documents, then others wouldn't be questioning things, or be suspicious about anything.....just saying.

1contessa, just a quick correction: it was captiveunicorn who made those comments, not me it's hard to read these messages sometimes.

Mumio said:

1contessa said:

I have to agree with you. I know that we Prince fans loved him, but let's face it, even the fans were questioning all the secrecy surrounding Prince's death, and like Mumio said, it came as a shock to many of us that Prince was reportedly in pain, and used painkillers, when his death occured. Prince never revealed that to his fans! Maybe if the family wouldn't act as secretly about his death, cremating him so quickly, and sealing the autopsy and documents, then others wouldn't be questioning things, or be suspicious about anything.....just saying.

1contessa, just a quick correction: it was captiveunicorn who made those comments, not me it's hard to read these messages sometimes.

Thanks, I'll correct that

1contessa said:

captiveunicorn said:

Mumio said: I agree. And add to that - I'm perplexed by the increasing number of comments here like "we all know he was in pain and addicted to painkillers" like its some kind of well-known established fact. It's not. Up until April 21 hardly anyone would have DARED to suggest such a thing. Up until the cause of death was released people were hotly debating whether P would ever have even *touched* medication. Now we've suddenly got family members implying it was a matter of public record(!) that there had been pain/addiction issues. Beyond perplexed by it all.

I have to agree with you. I know that we Prince fans loved him, but let's face it, even the fans were questioning all the secrecy surrounding Prince's death, and like Mumio said, it came as a shock to many of us that Prince was reportedly in pain, and used painkillers, when his death occured. Prince never revealed that to his fans! Maybe if the family wouldn't act as secretly about his death, cremating him so quickly, and sealing the autopsy and documents, then others wouldn't be questioning things, or be suspicious about anything.....just saying.

It's because most people refuse to think for themselves (be it conscious or unconscious) and instead rely on other sources of info to think for them, they see it enough times in an article, and it becomes fact.

Everything Prince was about was anti addiction, his lyrics, as well as the way he led his life. He worked others through breaking their addictions as well. He was incredibly disciplined, the way he recorded, staying true to the rigors of the JW faith, his eating habits, etc, all posed no problem for him. Knowing that, we are to believe that this incredibly disciplined person, who treated his body as a temple, and who anyone close to would say was the healthiest person they know, OD's on a plane an hour after having an amazing show where he was sitting almost the entire time, then throws a party a few days later, and then OD'd again a few days after that? Come on people, think for a second here how ridiulous that sounds. Prince would be shocked at how some of his fans are talking about him being a drug addict as fact and how little they really knew him. His lyrics, his actions, the people close to him, all speak contrary to this farce.

Sheila E mentioned that "he was always in pain", perhaps he was here and there, but if he was on pain killers, or, abusing pain killers, guess what, she would have never seen him in pain. Think about that for a sec.

[Edited 8/15/16 17:29pm]

PurpleColossus said:

leadline said:

She is protecting herself here, she simply does not want the public to know how much money she received or was still receiving.

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Agreed.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS!

I have felt all along this has nothing to do with protecting Prince but her own self-preservation.

For me nothing at this time will tarnish the man Prince was; he evolved and changed and as I keep saying he was one of the greatest human beings on the earth when he died; such a giving, humble, wonderful man. My heart swells with wonderment every day over the things he did in secret. I wish I could be as wonderful. Nothing will shade him in my opinion he was so much more than the way he died or pain pills or the women in his life.

Menes said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Who has custody of Larry now?

When Larry told Prince to stop being a "sugar daddy" to all these women, the s*h*it hit the fan. There is but only so much "sugaring" one man can do . Larry hated competition. I know my sources.

I think Larry brought Prince something he needed at one time and then I think he overstayed his utility and needed to get the boot from Prince. He overstayed way too long.