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Thread started 08/02/16 7:01am

BillieBalloon

Has anyone heard any news about the memoir?

I wonder what's going to happen to it. I know he had only completed the first 50 pages or so. Also I'm not sure why he was only writing up untill 2007 and his Superbowl performance.

Anyway..I was looking forward to reading it..

But it was not meant to be..
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Reply #1 posted 08/02/16 7:26am

Chasing

I work in the publishing industry, and we were close to buying it. I understand that the contract with the publisher was never signed, so the 50 pages and anything else he had intended for it remain part of his estate and will be determined upon by whoever administers and looks after it. Certainly, no likelihood of it seeing the bookshelves anytime soon.
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Reply #2 posted 08/02/16 7:37am

BillieBalloon

Chasing said:

I work in the publishing industry, and we were close to buying it. I understand that the contract with the publisher was never signed, so the 50 pages and anything else he had intended for it remain part of his estate and will be determined upon by whoever administers and looks after it. Certainly, no likelihood of it seeing the bookshelves anytime soon.



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Really? I thought he had signed with Random House, accepted their financial offer and that's why he was publicising it. This makes it sound like it was never "official'. I'm surprised..
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Reply #3 posted 08/02/16 7:45am

BillieBalloon

Spiegel & Grau Executive Editor Chris Jackson is obviously ecstatic about the book. “Prince is a towering figure in global culture and his music has been the soundtrack for untold numbers of people — including me — for more than a generation; his creative genius has provided the musical landscape of our lives. Millions of words have been written about Prince — books and articles, essays and criticism — but we’re thrilled to be publishing Prince’s powerful reflections on his own life in his own incandescently vivid, witty, and poetic voice.”
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Reply #4 posted 08/02/16 10:07am

Chasing

It was all official, contract not fully signed before P passed away, so I understand.
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Reply #5 posted 08/02/16 10:25am

laytonian

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Fifty pages is actually quite a bit if handwritten. If typed out, even more. Of course, it could be drawings, hieroglyphics, and poetry, also.

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He was writing about his life up to and including the Super Bowl appearance (which he must have seen as his major triumph).

His "purple notebooks" would contain enough to fill in gaps, if needed, to make a full volume. He was also into photography, so some of that could be included, too.

I'm sure it will be seen but it will also need to be carefully edited by someone who cares.

Expect something released around a holiday or other notable event.

It's something that everyone knows would sell.

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Reply #6 posted 08/02/16 10:26am

laytonian

Chasing said:

It was all official, contract not fully signed before P passed away, so I understand.

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That's as official as P got. He operated on handshakes and not signed contracts.

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Reply #7 posted 08/02/16 10:32am

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laytonian said:

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Fifty pages is actually quite a bit if handwritten. If typed out, even more. Of course, it could be drawings, hieroglyphics, and poetry, also.

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He was writing about his life up to and including the Super Bowl appearance (which he must have seen as his major triumph).

His "purple notebooks" would contain enough to fill in gaps, if needed, to make a full volume. He was also into photography, so some of that could be included, too.

I'm sure it will be seen but it will also need to be carefully edited by someone who cares.

Expect something released around a holiday or other notable event.

It's something that everyone knows would sell.

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Yeah...no. Handwriting takes up WAY more space than typed characters. Typed up, there's probably a half to two-thirds as much content. Once edited, even less.

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Reply #8 posted 08/02/16 10:51am

Chasing

No signed contract, no license of copyright, no right to publish.
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Reply #9 posted 08/02/16 10:53am

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Genesia said:

Yeah...no. Handwriting takes up WAY more space than typed characters. Typed up, there's probably a half to two-thirds as much content. Once edited, even less.


When I heard there were only a small handful of pages, my mind went elsewhere immediately. I thought of Journals, which was a scan & print of Kurt Cobain's notebook(s). It wasn't typed out or edited. It was literally his Mead notebook, page by page.

I really do think, especially with the pieces of handwritten lyrics on notebook paper and hotel stationary out there, that this sort of approach to the remains of the memoir, and other lyrics and notebooks he had around would be a great thing to put together. It could easily be as thick as 21 Nights book, and keep it under $50, and you got yourself a seller.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #10 posted 08/02/16 10:54am

selah

TrivialPursuit said:

Genesia said:

Yeah...no. Handwriting takes up WAY more space than typed characters. Typed up, there's probably a half to two-thirds as much content. Once edited, even less.


When I heard there were only a small handful of pages, my mind went elsewhere immediately. I thought of Journals, which was a scan & print of Kurt Cobain's notebook(s). It wasn't typed out or edited. It was literally his Mead notebook, page by page.

I really do think, especially with the pieces of handwritten lyrics on notebook paper and hotel stationary out there, that this sort of approach to the remains of the memoir, and other lyrics and notebooks he had around would be a great thing to put together. It could easily be as thick as 21 Nights book, and keep it under $50, and you got yourself a seller.

I buy that nod

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Reply #11 posted 08/02/16 11:03am

206Michelle

TrivialPursuit said:

Genesia said:

Yeah...no. Handwriting takes up WAY more space than typed characters. Typed up, there's probably a half to two-thirds as much content. Once edited, even less.


When I heard there were only a small handful of pages, my mind went elsewhere immediately. I thought of Journals, which was a scan & print of Kurt Cobain's notebook(s). It wasn't typed out or edited. It was literally his Mead notebook, page by page.

I really do think, especially with the pieces of handwritten lyrics on notebook paper and hotel stationary out there, that this sort of approach to the remains of the memoir, and other lyrics and notebooks he had around would be a great thing to put together. It could easily be as thick as 21 Nights book, and keep it under $50, and you got yourself a seller.

I agree. He wrote enough, I think there would be enough for a book that is "in his own words." I think it also might be interesting to include some articles from publications like Rolling Stones and speeches (e.g. from the Rock & Roll HOF and from live performances).

[Edited 8/2/16 11:04am]

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Reply #12 posted 08/02/16 11:04am

206Michelle

Haven't heard any new, but I've been wondering!

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Reply #13 posted 08/02/16 11:12am

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It's unclear if any of the plans for Prince's memoir will change. Random House and ICM Partners, which represented Prince in the book deal, told The Hollywood Reporter they are not commenting at this time. ICM's Esther Newberg told The Wall Street Journal last month that Prince already had turned in the first 50 pages — if he had been recording his memories for Piepenbring to fashion into text (a common tactic for celebrity memoirs), then it is possible that more hours of tape exist to extend his story beyond those 50 pages. But if Prince was writing a draft from scratch, there might be less material for Piepenbring to work with. The writer did not return a request for comment.

What's certain is that any eventual output related to the original project will certainly draw even more attention now, as it will stand as the last authorized biography of the legendary artist. Publisher Judith Regan (who is not affiliated with the deal) said that if she were involved with the project, she'd push to bring the book out as soon as possible.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...oir-887413" target="_blank"> http://www.hollywoodrepor...oir-887413

The article's old though.

[Edited 8/2/16 11:14am]

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Reply #14 posted 08/02/16 11:15am

selah

morningsong said:

It's unclear if any of the plans for Prince's memoir will change. Random House and ICM Partners, which represented Prince in the book deal, told The Hollywood Reporter they are not commenting at this time. ICM's Esther Newberg told The Wall Street Journal last month that Prince already had turned in the first 50 pages — if he had been recording his memories for Piepenbring to fashion into text (a common tactic for celebrity memoirs), then it is possible that more hours of tape exist to extend his story beyond those 50 pages. But if Prince was writing a draft from scratch, there might be less material for Piepenbring to work with. The writer did not return a request for comment.

What's certain is that any eventual output related to the original project will certainly draw even more attention now, as it will stand as the last authorized biography of the legendary artist. Publisher Judith Regan (who is not affiliated with the deal) said that if she were involved with the project, she'd push to bring the book out as soon as possible.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...oir-887413

In such a case, they'd have to wait till estate stuff is settled.

That'd be so nice smile

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Reply #15 posted 08/02/16 11:57am

BillieBalloon

TrivialPursuit said:



Genesia said:



Yeah...no. Handwriting takes up WAY more space than typed characters. Typed up, there's probably a half to two-thirds as much content. Once edited, even less.




When I heard there were only a small handful of pages, my mind went elsewhere immediately. I thought of Journals, which was a scan & print of Kurt Cobain's notebook(s). It wasn't typed out or edited. It was literally his Mead notebook, page by page.

I really do think, especially with the pieces of handwritten lyrics on notebook paper and hotel stationary out there, that this sort of approach to the remains of the memoir, and other lyrics and notebooks he had around would be a great thing to put together. It could easily be as thick as 21 Nights book, and keep it under $50, and you got yourself a seller.



I wonder how far those notebooks go back and if he kept all of them. He preserved his music in the vault but we don't know if he saved his notebooks and hand written lyrics, I hope so. The problem is somebody else will have to decide what Prince did and didn't want included in his memoir. It that sense it can't be a memoir but just a biography..apart from the completed pages of course.
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Reply #16 posted 08/02/16 11:58am

selah

BillieBalloon said:

TrivialPursuit said:


When I heard there were only a small handful of pages, my mind went elsewhere immediately. I thought of Journals, which was a scan & print of Kurt Cobain's notebook(s). It wasn't typed out or edited. It was literally his Mead notebook, page by page.

I really do think, especially with the pieces of handwritten lyrics on notebook paper and hotel stationary out there, that this sort of approach to the remains of the memoir, and other lyrics and notebooks he had around would be a great thing to put together. It could easily be as thick as 21 Nights book, and keep it under $50, and you got yourself a seller.

I wonder how far those notebooks go back and if he kept all of them. He preserved his music in the vault but we don't know if he saved his notebooks and hand written lyrics, I hope so. The problem is somebody else will have to decide what Prince did and didn't want included in his memoir. It that sense it can't be a memoir but just a biography..apart from the completed pages of course.

I hear you. I actually feel the same way about some of the stuff in the vault..

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Reply #17 posted 08/02/16 12:02pm

laytonian

selah said:

morningsong said:

It's unclear if any of the plans for Prince's memoir will change. Random House and ICM Partners, which represented Prince in the book deal, told The Hollywood Reporter they are not commenting at this time. ICM's Esther Newberg told The Wall Street Journal last month that Prince already had turned in the first 50 pages — if he had been recording his memories for Piepenbring to fashion into text (a common tactic for celebrity memoirs), then it is possible that more hours of tape exist to extend his story beyond those 50 pages. But if Prince was writing a draft from scratch, there might be less material for Piepenbring to work with. The writer did not return a request for comment.

What's certain is that any eventual output related to the original project will certainly draw even more attention now, as it will stand as the last authorized biography of the legendary artist. Publisher Judith Regan (who is not affiliated with the deal) said that if she were involved with the project, she'd push to bring the book out as soon as possible.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...oir-887413

In such a case, they'd have to wait till estate stuff is settled.

That'd be so nice smile

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Not really. Bremer Trust has been licensing things, paying bills, signing contracts all along. The thing is, the value of the memoir is part of the value of the estate -- and that all has to be figured out before final settlement of the tax bill.

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Reply #18 posted 08/02/16 12:03pm

BillieBalloon

morningsong said:


It's unclear if any of the plans for Prince's memoir will change. Random House and ICM Partners, which represented Prince in the book deal, told The Hollywood Reporter they are not commenting at this time. ICM's Esther Newberg told The Wall Street Journal last month that Prince already had turned in the first 50 pages — if he had been recording his memories for Piepenbring to fashion into text (a common tactic for celebrity memoirs), then it is possible that more hours of tape exist to extend his story beyond those 50 pages. But if Prince was writing a draft from scratch, there might be less material for Piepenbring to work with. The writer did not return a request for comment.


What's certain is that any eventual output related to the original project will certainly draw even more attention now, as it will stand as the last authorized biography of the legendary artist. Publisher Judith Regan (who is not affiliated with the deal) said that if she were involved with the project, she'd push to bring the book out as soon as possible.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...oir-887413" target="_blank"> http://www.hollywoodrepor...oir-887413

The article's old though.

[Edited 8/2/16 11:14am]




Thanks for the info. Sounds like there's still hope something may come out. If it did it would definitely sell well.
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Reply #19 posted 08/02/16 12:07pm

BillieBalloon

selah said:



BillieBalloon said:


TrivialPursuit said:



When I heard there were only a small handful of pages, my mind went elsewhere immediately. I thought of Journals, which was a scan & print of Kurt Cobain's notebook(s). It wasn't typed out or edited. It was literally his Mead notebook, page by page.

I really do think, especially with the pieces of handwritten lyrics on notebook paper and hotel stationary out there, that this sort of approach to the remains of the memoir, and other lyrics and notebooks he had around would be a great thing to put together. It could easily be as thick as 21 Nights book, and keep it under $50, and you got yourself a seller.



I wonder how far those notebooks go back and if he kept all of them. He preserved his music in the vault but we don't know if he saved his notebooks and hand written lyrics, I hope so. The problem is somebody else will have to decide what Prince did and didn't want included in his memoir. It that sense it can't be a memoir but just a biography..apart from the completed pages of course.


I hear you. I actually feel the same way about some of the stuff in the vault..




It doesn't look like he stipulated what he wants released from the vault..Unless he did..we just don't know. It seems he was excited about the memoir, perhaps somebody knows loosely what he wanted in there.
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Reply #20 posted 08/02/16 12:48pm

selah

laytonian said:

selah said:

In such a case, they'd have to wait till estate stuff is settled.

That'd be so nice smile

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Not really. Bremer Trust has been licensing things, paying bills, signing contracts all along. The thing is, the value of the memoir is part of the value of the estate -- and that all has to be figured out before final settlement of the tax bill.

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True, although seeing as it's not yet complete, time will tell.

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Reply #21 posted 08/02/16 2:10pm

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50 pages is not enough to publish an autobiography. A brief memoir in article form might be possible. Springsteen is about to publish a 528 page autobiography this fall but he worked on that for seven years...

[Edited 8/2/16 14:15pm]

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Reply #22 posted 08/02/16 2:25pm

206Michelle

purplethunder3121 said:

50 pages is not enough to publish an autobiography. A brief memoir in article form might be possible. Springsteen is about to publish a 528 page autobiography this fall but he worked on that for seven years...

[Edited 8/2/16 14:15pm]

Thanks for sharing this. Now I know what I will buy my dad for Christmas...he loves Bruce!

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Reply #23 posted 08/02/16 2:28pm

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206Michelle said:

purplethunder3121 said:

50 pages is not enough to publish an autobiography. A brief memoir in article form might be possible. Springsteen is about to publish a 528 page autobiography this fall but he worked on that for seven years...

[Edited 8/2/16 14:15pm]

Thanks for sharing this. Now I know what I will buy my dad for Christmas...he loves Bruce!

You're welcome. wink Here's the amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Bo...1501141511

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Reply #24 posted 08/04/16 6:08pm

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an artist's early years before they become famous are the most interesting part of a biography to me, so if he was writing chronologically, that would be an awesome 50 pages smile

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Reply #25 posted 08/04/16 6:16pm

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PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

an artist's early years before they become famous are the most interesting part of a biography to me, so if he was writing chronologically, that would be an awesome 50 pages smile

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With the title "The Beautiful Ones", it sounds like he was writing about the people throughout his life.

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Reply #26 posted 08/08/16 4:34pm

206Michelle

laytonian said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

an artist's early years before they become famous are the most interesting part of a biography to me, so if he was writing chronologically, that would be an awesome 50 pages smile

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With the title "The Beautiful Ones", it sounds like he was writing about the people throughout his life.

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PurpleMapleSyrup, That's a really insightful thought you have. I never made any connection between the title and it being about the people in his life, but it makes a lot of sense. My guess is that someone at the publishing company might know about Prince's reason for choosing "The Beautiful Ones" as the title.

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Reply #27 posted 08/08/16 5:34pm

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If there were voice recordings, that would make an amazing book on tape!

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Reply #28 posted 08/08/16 8:12pm

206Michelle

Vox said:

If there were voice recordings, that would make an amazing book on tape!



I really hope that there are recordings because someone could transcribe them for the book.
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