Dibblekins said:

JWs view organ transplant operations as a matter of individual conscience.
Interesting link from US National Center for Biotechnology Information about liver transplantations (not a religious website)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...MC1356413/

selah said:

Dibblekins said:

Ahhh - OK - I asked the ones that called here and they said, no, they didn't allow any sort of transplant / transfusion of that nature. It sounds like there might not be a consensus!

JWs view organ transplant operations as a matter of individual conscience. Interesting link from US National Center for Biotechnology Information about liver transplantations (not a religious website) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...MC1356413/

OK - if we put aside the liver transplant issue for a moment, would you concede that the other points are worthy of consideration? Especially the fact that liver damage can make any medications taken more likely to lead to overdose?

OK - if we put aside the liver transplant issue for a moment, would you concede that the other points are worthy of consideration? Especially the fact that liver damage can make any medications taken more likely to lead to overdose?

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Sure,anything's possible. You make an interesting case.

Ultimatey I believe that Tyka knows. I'm at peace that may never find out. As long as someone out there does.

Mumio said:

You need to get on your meds. Let me make this clear I think Prince had an underlying illness which I do not think was AIDS !!!! I do no give a crap about what you think. After all you belive some chick keep a hair sample from 20 years ago.😱 A few others have called you out for this foolishness. Now let adults talk about viable reasons our boy died.

Dibblekins said:

--- I have said many times it may have been organ failure. Pain meds destroy organs and he may have only found out about the extent of the damage in the last few weeks.

strawberrylova123 said:

-- Mayte said he took aspirin for heart palpitations back in the 90s.He could have multiple problems. Very sad.

laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:

You really need to learn how to read concurrent posts to understand how people have responded to others. You can't just take the pieces you want to take and make it fit your agenda. Good grief.

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You need to get on your meds. Let me make this clear I think Prince had an underlying illness which I do not think was AIDS !!!! I do no give a crap about what you think. After all you belive some chick keep a hair sample from 20 years ago.😱 A few others have called you out for this foolishness. Now let adults talk about viable reasons our boy died.

Ooookay then.

laurarichardson said:

Wow i didn't know that

laurarichardson said:

The blind item claimed the black entertainer was taking his meds and got off of them because the religious group he was affiliated with convinced him that he was cured and no longer needed to take the meds. It's true that noone in the U.S. has to die from AIDS anymore. However, if you get off your meds, then HIV will become AIDS, and at that point there is no turning back. I know this is all speculation, but that blind item came out right before Prince died. Maybe it was just a coincidence that this report came out just prior to Prince's death, but no other MAJOR black celebrity has come to fit this description since.

sfinky1 said:

No autopsy report has ever been released to or seen by the public. The only document pertaining to his death the public has seen is the death certificate which only has to state the cause of death.

derrick31 said:

sfinky1 said:

^^^ if he had any major illness or health condition it would have been listed in the autopsy report, it was was not. End of.

No autopsy report has ever been released to or seen by the public. The only document pertaining to his death the public has seen is the death certificate which only has to state the cause of death

The death certificate indicated "n/a" in regard to other causes of death. It didnt say "none." In legal jargon "n/a" means just that ....."not applicable." Big differentiation. So if P had other health problems/diseases the coroner indicated on the death certificate it was not the cause of death. It is very telling on the death certificate that the coroner did not indicate "none."

endiadj said:

derrick31 said:

rogifan said: You are pretty much living in a fantasy world if you don't think most of Prince's die-hard fans don't want to know what happened to him. Whether you understand it or not, many of us loved and cared for the man. His sudden passing troubles a lot of us.

If you (general you, ofc) loved and cared for the man, you'd mine your own business. What Prince was going through is what HE was going through. If he wanted the world or his die hard fans to know, he would've told you when he was alive. He didn't. That should be a hint. He lived his life the same way. He told you what he wanted you to know. The rest was HIS business. Clammoring for every dirty detail of his private life/death is not going to bring him back or change anything.

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Whatever Die hard fans/ orgers please disregard and proceed with getting to Prince's business.

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SoulAlive said:

rap said:

Maybe TMZ was right about one thing, maybe he did have Aids, and that was the news he was fearing??

Nope.TMZ never reported that Prince had AIDS.It was the sleazy,unreliable National Enquirer who reported that lie.

Also the same sleazy ass tabloid mag that had fake ass pictures of a Prince imposter leading to believe it was him slumped in the elevator. He had on a fucked afro wig and torn jeans. He didn't have on anything that matched what Prince really had on and don't forget The Globe who took Michael Jackson's picture when he laid lifeless on a slab and cut and pasted Prince's face with his eyes closed to make it look like Prince.

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rap said:

SoulAlive said:

Nope.TMZ never reported that Prince had AIDS.It was the sleazy,unreliable National Enquirer who reported that lie.

Who's to say it's a lie??

And who's to say it's the truth! It's mighty funny this never came out the whole time Prince was alive where he could defend himself. The media fabricated the story because they have always resented that they could NEVER get any dirt on Prince. Prince didn't have scandal and he was never in the news. This is their chance to slander him and it's still not sticking. His legacy will be fine.

TurnItUp said:

This. A rag like the National Enquirer is not defensible. No one should be accepting the possibility just because it's AIDS and they don't think a stigma should be attached to it. Believe me if there was any *there* there to any of these rumors more mainstream publications would have reported on them.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

--- No, his cause of death was from the Fentanyl. He could have other health issues that just did not cause his death but would have if the Fentanyl had not got to him first.

strawberrylova123 said:

Well, since Laura can't even quote him correctly from Arsenio, I need to see a link to this info before accepting it as fact.

Bunsterdk said:

--- I will see if I can find it. I will also let you know smart ass that I am recalling the Arsenio show from memory. The show has been posted on YouTube but the upload keep stopping so I cannot get to the question from the audience member. I am pretty sure "I am spoken for" means I am taken I am not sure why you and few others think he was worried about some random audience members feelings. I think he was just answering the question with an honest answer because you can be "spoken for" and still be celibate or he could have really been involved with someone. We really have no way of knowing but as usual in this board the ability to see all sides of the stituation is lost.

Dibblekins said:

Maybe they thought you asked what they would do, or they had just misunderstood or didn't remember. We do have consensus, but we are only human and do get things mixed up sometimes in our ministry. Or maybe you asked before it was cleared up, I can't remember now when it was, but not so many years ago iirc. I have personally decided against it, but it is my personal decision. Not made for religious reasons BTW, but mostly medical. I have also decided against chemo therapy and that is also based on my own personal decision, nothing religious about that at all.

You can always check JW.org if you want the official stand on matters in your research about Prince. But again he may very well have had personal reasons to reject something that is allowed according to his faith, like I do.

I don't know if he could have had organ failure. Anything is possible. Including aids. He died, that's all we know, and for some reason that we don't know he died from Fentanyl OD. Anything else is speculation.

rogifan said:

/- Exactly it is unbelievable that people would take the National Enquier seriously.

laurarichardson said:

He did not say he was spoken for, however, you keep misquoting him to fit your agenda. They were joking about her moving on with someone else, and she asked if he was available (implied: for her to date). No, I'm not available, he replied. After pretending to chase her now ex boyfriend away to have her. No-one was being in any way serious. It was hilarious.

I'm personally not involved with anyone and would have used the exact same words to reply to that question. It's not a lie, I'm really not available to date some random guy I don't know just because he's now single. LOL

Everyone else is seeing all sides of the situation except you, Laura.

Bunsterdk said:

--- Really do you think anyone really cares what you accept as facts. The link is below it is from the two idiot nannies so we have to consider the source. I found out recently they tried to sell pictures of Ahmir to the tabloids so they are scum as far as I am concerned. If you use the search function Prince taking aspirin for heart palpitations is mentioned a few times on this board over the years. // http://prince.org/msg/5/336650
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Bunsterdk said:

// Get help for reading comprehension problems I am recalling this from memory because I cannot see this part of the show. I will find it and view it. I also have no agenda about it. You and others were stuck on this being some clue to celibacy. I think that is bullshit. My opinion.
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laurarichardson said:

Charming.. Have a fun day. I know I will.

laurarichardson said:

strawberrylova123 said:

i wonder if prince had some sort of heart problem, around April Matt fink said P told him he had heart Murmurs .

-- Mayte said he took aspirin for heart palpitations back in the 90s.He could have multiple problems. Very sad.

Yes, I read about the heart murmurs too. Also, he used to suffer from seizures as a child, but not sure if that stopped in his adulthood. Very sad also to read that he would go for long periods without drinking water, which explains why he had to be hospitalized for "dehydration". Also, I read that Percocet makes you dehydrated, so if Prince was not staying hydrated, that was very dangerous to his health. I know he was a "vegetarian" and wonder if he was not getting proper nutrients his body needed. I mean, being a musician and a performer on the level that Prince was, you need to stay hydrated and you need proper nutrition. I know, I sound like a Mom now. I always have water by my side (spring water), and I could certainly not go for days without food or water -- I wouldn't be able to think of function!!

TurnItUp said:

rap said:

Who's to say it's a lie??

And who's to say it's the truth! It's mighty funny this never came out the whole time Prince was alive where he could defend himself. The media fabricated the story because they have always resented that they could NEVER get any dirt on Prince. Prince didn't have scandal and he was never in the news. This is their chance to slander him and it's still not sticking. His legacy will be fine.

It was really disgusting what the tabloids were putting out there after Prince died. I never believe the AIDS story, for one second. They decided that saying he was a drug addict and dying of AIDS would fit because of Prince's lifestyle. When the cause of death came out, they got real quiet.

cloveringold85 said:

TurnItUp said:

And who's to say it's the truth! It's mighty funny this never came out the whole time Prince was alive where he could defend himself. The media fabricated the story because they have always resented that they could NEVER get any dirt on Prince. Prince didn't have scandal and he was never in the news. This is their chance to slander him and it's still not sticking. His legacy will be fine.

It was really disgusting what the tabloids were putting out there after Prince died. I never believe the AIDS story, for one second. They decided that saying he was a drug addict and dying of AIDS would fit because of Prince's lifestyle. When the cause of death came out, they got real quiet.

First off, I want to say that I am addressing the response here, but the poster should not take this as any kind of attack...it's just something that I feel needs to be pointed out.

And yet in spite of everything out there, not one of them has retracted the AIDS story. People don't have to believe it if they don't want to or can't deal, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. As a matter of fact, NO ONE has proven it's not true. NO ONE has proven it's true either, so it looks like a draw to me. The public report doesn't say anything other than the exact cause of death....nothing about underlying conditions he may have had (you know, like WHY he used Fentanyl/opioids), because they don't have to disclose that nor would they per MN law. It's protected information. And I'll throw this in there just for shits and giggles: I don't for one minute believe that Prince ABUSED drugs because he was an addict in the general sense of how people look at these situations. Fentanyl is used for serious pain relief. It's commonly used for/by terminally ill patients and other painful conditions not relieved by other meds. Figure it out. Or not. There's a lot of people who can't seem to see that he probably used the Fentanyl for a condition that caused him terrible pain.

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Mumio said:

-- The only news source who ever said he had AIDS was a gossip blog and the National Enquier these news outlets never retract anything unless they are forced to via a lawsuit. The report we see does not list whatever other issues he had only the family gets to see it so no legitimate news source is going to report that he had AIDS. I am not going to waste my time with the rest of your nonsense since you prefer to get your news from the National Enquier.

laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:

First off, I want to say that I am addressing the response here, but the poster should not take this as any kind of attack...it's just something that I feel needs to be pointed out.

And yet in spite of everything out there, not one of them has retracted the AIDS story. People don't have to believe it if they don't want to or can't deal, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. As a matter of fact, NO ONE has proven it's not true. NO ONE has proven it's true either, so it looks like a draw to me. The public report doesn't say anything other than the exact cause of death....nothing about underlying conditions he may have had (you know, like WHY he used Fentanyl/opioids), because they don't have to disclose that nor would they per MN law. It's protected information. And I'll throw this in there just for shits and giggles: I don't for one minute believe that Prince ABUSED drugs because he was an addict in the general sense of how people look at these situations. Fentanyl is used for serious pain relief. It's commonly used for/by terminally ill patients and other painful conditions not relieved by other meds. Figure it out. Or not. There's a lot of people who can't seem to see that he probably used the Fentanyl for a condition that caused him terrible pain.

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-- The only news source who ever said he had AIDS was a gossip blog and the National Enquier these news outlets never retract anything unless they are forced to via a lawsuit. The report we see does not list whatever other issues he had only the family gets to see it so no legitimate news source is going to report that he had AIDS. I am not going to waste my time with the rest of your nonsense since you prefer to get your news from the National Enquier.

SNIP Don't respond to my posts, SNIP -OF4S

Oh, and National Enquirer isn't always wrong loser: http://www.businessinside...013-2?op=1

Mumio said:

I remembered the OJ shoes story, but I am stunned that the Enquirer was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for the John Edwards/Brielle Hunter story. Yes, they actually have been right a few times.