avajane said:

morningsong said:

justAmeda said:

Yep raggedy old jeans for me, most stained up shirt i can find and tennis shoes with the soles blown all the pieces. til after we hid the paparazzi bodies..then I'd be up for coffee and a change of clothes

And dare him to give a scowling look. Start pointing at the body at the slightest hint of a look.

yep I be like YOU got me out here at this unGodly hour to help you with this mess and I haven't even had a freaking cigarette or coffee! Keep it up buddy and you be the next one wearing a dang tarp!

Yeah I know we aren't "owed" the full autopsy report but it would make me and several more fans much more content if we got to see it. People really cared for this guy and want to know the background of his death... I'm not hopeful or anything though. I've already resigned myself to the fact that his death will remain a ? for fans. I mean we have the basic info (that he overdosed on fentanyl he was taking for hip pain), but the story just doesn't seem complete to me.

Well, just browsing this thread, I feel like if anything his death should cause people to re-evaluate their perception of "addiction" and whatever pre-judgements come with that designation.

It seems like people are still trying to rationalize and spin. "He was anti-drug so he couldn't have died that way." "Okay, drugs were found, but I'm sure he wasn't doing them for fun, just because he needed them."

Well, what if it was a combination of the two, as are most addictions? You start self-medicating, then it just manifests... you get addicted to the relief. I think if you have a problem with this possibility, or immediately retreat to bashing the "junkie" over the "patient" when really they're all in the same boat regardless of how their use started, that speaks more of you than it does of Prince.

WhisperingDandelions said:

justAmeda said:

I agree with you CharismaDove. Those that did known him even if they did know anything that would put him in a negative light would most likely not do so out of a sense of loyalty to Prince but also a sense of not wanting fans to see him in that kind of light. I think the ones in the past who worked with him or knew him and told of their negative encounters are probably telling truths. I also think that those who knew him and tell of their postive encounters with him are probaby telling truths as well. My personal belief is there was only one perfect sinless man that ever walke this earth and he died and rose again over 2000 yrs ago. Anyone before or after him is going to show both sides of their coins the rest of their lives.

well said...

he only wanted us to know thru his music ..let it go

Ok, I don't understand any of the whiney bitch fest some ppl spew when it comes 2 this subject. Where does it state that just becuz some1 is in the public eye they have to reveal, every. Single. Aspect. Of their lives? P once said he intentionally hoodwinked reporters, made up stories and such 2 protect himself, becuz what would happen or be left of him if every1 took of him or left him? I 1 million % understand and agree with this. Put aside Ur own feelings and look at it thru HIS eyes.

Unless U were living under a rock the whole world knows his name, his B-day, where he lives, knows about his family, so on and so on, then, his every movment is followed and scrutinized. His work is picked apart, ppl wanna know what song was written 4 who, what it all means. U live in a damn fish bowl. Why can't ppl just appreciate what he gave us and interpret lyrics/songs 4 meaning in Ur own life? It's like what if The Beautiful Ones was Ur fav song, and U rely on that 2 get U thru hard times thinking it was some profound spiritually driven song but then U found out it's about a dog. A destructive dog that knocks over mirrors and U can't leave it alone, and dislikes the person U're seeing, so Ur personal life suffers. U have 2 pick me or the dog? Insane analogy I know, but it should make my point.

He also said he didn't choose this path and he didn't want 2 be worshiped. While it's obvious he loved it when ppl enjoyed his work (and a HUGE reason he did what he did, he loved making ppl happy) he was sooo backwards/awkward when it came 2 accepting any award or accolades, he just wanted 2 play. If he was some Kardashian attention whore inviting cameras into his home, to follow him around everywhere then get pissed when ppl follow him around everywhere wanting/demanding 2 know everything about him, then I could understand the complaint. But he was the polar opposite of this.

In regards 2 ppl being disillusioned somehow with his "drug use" STFU already. The term "drug use" keeps having a wider cast net these days. Do U take Tylenol 4 a headache? Or how about Pepto 4 an upset stomach? Guess what, those are drugs, therefore U R a drug user! The problem is when the media compares LEGAL RX's 2 ILLEGAL street drugs. Everything can be compared to heroin. The fact that ppl keep saying their image of him is tainted or what-not becuz of finding out he took pain medication, just....really? I mean REALLY? So forget the fact that he was in tremendous pain and was trying 2 cope by taking legal medications, nah, he should have suffered and not taken anything to maintain some1 else's puritan image of him. Oh, and let's not forget he should've disclosed all his health issues 2 the public 1st 2 get their approval.

2 the OP -I'm not being rude or anything here but 4 someone who says they don't care about P's personal life it certainly sounds like U've thought a lot about it and it obviously effects U. Just enjoy the music, if any 1 can't do that becuz they somehow now "see" him in a different light, well then U read waaaaay 2 much into his personal life and let that rule U not the music. I'll get off my soap box now.

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ACharmed1 said:

Unless U were living under a rock the whole world knows his name, his B-day, where he lives, knows about his family, so on and so on, then, his every movment is followed and scrutinized. His work is picked apart, ppl wanna know what song was written 4 who, what it all means. U live in a damn fish bowl. Why can't ppl just appreciate what he gave us and interpret lyrics/songs 4 meaning in Ur own life? It's like what if The Beautiful Ones was Ur fav song, and U rely on that 2 get U thru hard times thinking it was some profound spiritually driven song but then U found out it's about a dog. A destructive dog that knocks over mirrors and U can't leave it alone, and dislikes the person U're seeing, so Ur personal life suffers. U have 2 pick me or the dog? Insane analogy I know, but it should make my point.

He also said he didn't choose this path and he didn't want 2 be worshiped. While it's obvious he loved it when ppl enjoyed his work (and a HUGE reason he did what he did, he loved making ppl happy) he was sooo backwards/awkward when it came 2 accepting any award or accolades, he just wanted 2 play. If he was some Kardashian attention whore inviting cameras into his home, to follow him around everywhere then get pissed when ppl follow him around everywhere wanting/demanding 2 know everything about him, then I could understand the complaint. But he was the polar opposite of this.

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All of this right here. It's crazy. Sometimes I wonder if people simply don't think about how the constant digging into a celeb's life can be dehumanizing to the celeb: they're no longer a person, they're just an object to be possessed, a marionette doll to be pushed, pulled, and tugged for another's amusement with no life and will of their own, no privacy or corner of the world where they can just breathe.

It's really sad.

justAmeda said:

LBrent said:

Blakbear said:

All of this right here. It's crazy. Sometimes I wonder if people simply don't think about how the constant digging into a celeb's life can be dehumanizing to the celeb: they're no longer a person, they're just an object to be possessed, a marionette doll to be pushed, pulled, and tugged for another's amusement with no life and will of their own, no privacy or corner of the world where they can just breathe.

It's really sad.

Yep. Celebs pay a heavy price 2 do what they love. I mean there are some who enjoy and want all the attention in the world, heck even get mad or depressed when they aren't being followed/hounded. But P was never in a million years 1 of them. I really admire him 4 that.

morningsong said:

justAmeda said:

yep I be like YOU got me out here at this unGodly hour to help you with this mess and I haven't even had a freaking cigarette or coffee! Keep it up buddy and you be the next one wearing a dang tarp!

My fantasy, I'd be May to his Coulson. Not that I'm anything like May but it's my fantasy so there it is.

LBrent said:

ACharmed1 and blakbear, I feelya. Truly. I have been good through all these years I've been a fan. I have. And I have never said aloud what I revealed about being a P noseybody to anyone until I posted those things here on the org since he passed, although they're true, I mostly was hoping to lighten the mood cuz we're all going through something. Ameda and morningsong, I brought hazmat suits, a shovel and a big bag of lime just in case. I call shotgun!

hope those hazmat suits have air conditioning! Not sure what the temps are like up on MN but they would turn a human into a rotisseri here in TN

justAmeda said:

LBrent and justAmeda,

Ya'll brought fun into this thread that could have easily went the other way.

LBrent where did you post your P nosybody information is it in this thread?

Blakbear said:

ACharmed1 said:

Unless U were living under a rock the whole world knows his name, his B-day, where he lives, knows about his family, so on and so on, then, his every movment is followed and scrutinized. His work is picked apart, ppl wanna know what song was written 4 who, what it all means. U live in a damn fish bowl. Why can't ppl just appreciate what he gave us and interpret lyrics/songs 4 meaning in Ur own life? It's like what if The Beautiful Ones was Ur fav song, and U rely on that 2 get U thru hard times thinking it was some profound spiritually driven song but then U found out it's about a dog. A destructive dog that knocks over mirrors and U can't leave it alone, and dislikes the person U're seeing, so Ur personal life suffers. U have 2 pick me or the dog? Insane analogy I know, but it should make my point.

He also said he didn't choose this path and he didn't want 2 be worshiped. While it's obvious he loved it when ppl enjoyed his work (and a HUGE reason he did what he did, he loved making ppl happy) he was sooo backwards/awkward when it came 2 accepting any award or accolades, he just wanted 2 play. If he was some Kardashian attention whore inviting cameras into his home, to follow him around everywhere then get pissed when ppl follow him around everywhere wanting/demanding 2 know everything about him, then I could understand the complaint. But he was the polar opposite of this.

[Edited 7/16/16 12:31pm]

All of this right here. It's crazy. Sometimes I wonder if people simply don't think about how the constant digging into a celeb's life can be dehumanizing to the celeb: they're no longer a person, they're just an object to be possessed, a marionette doll to be pushed, pulled, and tugged for another's amusement with no life and will of their own, no privacy or corner of the world where they can just breathe.

It's really sad.

Prince was the best at messing with the press Other celebs loved how he worked it.I always said he got to the top because of talent.But,stayed there for years because of street smarts.He would do stuff like at the SB with the sheet and the guitar raised up.He knew everyone was going to say it looked like he was masterbating.Celebs know the game this guy has been around since the 70's.If you get the chance read up on what wendy said about the night of the AMA awards

Wait, I'm confused. Am I being called out 4 being 2 serious on this thread?

ACharmed1 said:

destinyc1 said:

Blakbear said:

All of this right here. It's crazy. Sometimes I wonder if people simply don't think about how the constant digging into a celeb's life can be dehumanizing to the celeb: they're no longer a person, they're just an object to be possessed, a marionette doll to be pushed, pulled, and tugged for another's amusement with no life and will of their own, no privacy or corner of the world where they can just breathe.

It's really sad.

Prince was the best at messing with the press Other celebs loved how he worked it.I always said he got to the top because of talent.But,stayed there for years because of street smarts.He would do stuff like at the SB with the sheet and the guitar raised up.He knew everyone was going to say it looked like he was masterbating.Celebs know the game this guy has been around since the 70's.If you get the chance read up on what wendy said about the night of the AMA awards

Which time? 85? Or later?

LBrent said:

justAmeda said:

hope those hazmat suits have air conditioning! Not sure what the temps are like up on MN but they would turn a human into a rotisseri here in TN

Guuuuuuurl...Here in NY tonight it's humid. It's more humid than 5 Aretha Franklin sized gals in the back seat of a Volkswagen wearing full length fur coats, manual windows rolled up, no air conditioning, and fryin chicken. [Answers cellphone] "Yes. We're on our way. Gotta stop at 7-11 for coffee and cigs." [Edited 7/16/16 17:52pm]

P better have the coffee and cigs ready! I mean we the ones helping bury those paparazzi bodies at 3am! He best let me get a cig finished before I start digging!

LBrent said:

tish9311 said:

LBrent and justAmeda,

Ya'll brought fun into this thread that could have easily went the other way.

LBrent where did you post your P nosybody information is it in this thread?

awe thank ya tish!

morningsong said:

LBrent said:

ACharmed1 and blakbear, I feelya. Truly. I have been good through all these years I've been a fan. I have. And I have never said aloud what I revealed about being a P noseybody to anyone until I posted those things here on the org since he passed, although they're true, I mostly was hoping to lighten the mood cuz we're all going through something. Ameda and morningsong, I brought hazmat suits, a shovel and a big bag of lime just in case. I call shotgun!

Fine with me, I'm May I'm driving and trust I got my own specal supplies and a escape plan. Ameda and Prince can sit back and come up with a location. ACharmed1 and blakbear, are going all thru stuff getting rid of any evidence. I think we got this.

I'm in!!! I got alibi's 4 us all. I'll drive P 2 a safe house after it's all done, I'll take goooooooood care of him.

tish9311 said:

ACharmed1 said:

Agree with "Charmed" and couldnt agree with you more. No one except the investigators and the autospy report will ever convince me that he was a recreational drug user and using for the high. I think these essential reports are known as the FACTS. (Excuse the sarcasm.) Even if the reports are brought to the light of day, they don't bring him back. I admit I'd like to know some "stuff" as well; the antidote for that for ME has been to get back into my daily routine, focus on the work in front of me, go to the gym, and not check every day for updates, etc. The more time that goes by the less it seems to matter to me what the circumstances may be. Also, there are other symptoms of withdrawl that he didnt' seem to exhibit or no one has mentioned such as itching and a runny nose. He was still touring, making music, mentoring, etc and for the younger crowd, getting older is not for sissies. The man was entitled to peace, privacy and winding down his career if that's what he was choosing. Seems we live in an age of instant gratification and entitlement. May it pass....

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AA1slot said:

selah said:

AA1slot said:

Agree with "Charmed" and couldnt agree with you more. No one except the investigators and the autospy report will ever convince me that he was a recreational drug user and using for the high. I think these essential reports are known as the FACTS. (Excuse the sarcasm.) Even if the reports are brought to the light of day, they don't bring him back. I admit I'd like to know some "stuff" as well; the antidote for that for ME has been to get back into my daily routine, focus on the work in front of me, go to the gym, and not check every day for updates, etc. The more time that goes by the less it seems to matter to me what the circumstances may be. Also, there are other symptoms of withdrawl that he didnt' seem to exhibit or no one has mentioned such as itching and a runny nose. He was still touring, making music, mentoring, etc and for the younger crowd, getting older is not for sissies. The man was entitled to peace, privacy and winding down his career if that's what he was choosing. Seems we live in an age of instant gratification and entitlement. May it pass....

[Edited 7/17/16 7:44am]

Cosign

This here, too. I always figured that at some point, Prince was going to stop performing, and instead become a producer -- I think he had the ability to do it, and obviously he didn't build Paisley Park with only one thing in mind. He didn't strike me as someone who would pass up the opportunity to pass on what he knew. He seemed too interested in teaching and mentoring not to do that.

I also do admire his ability to protect himself. Maybe he occasionally carried that self-protection too far, but there's something to be said for a celeb who values himself enough to not allow everyone into his life. It made a lot of sense to keep people at a distance, especially in a world where people will take advantage of you in some horrible ways.

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AA1slot said: