I agree with you CharismaDove. Those that did known him even if they did know anything that would put him in a negative light would most likely not do so out of a sense of loyalty to Prince but also a sense of not wanting fans to see him in that kind of light. I think the ones in the past who worked with him or knew him and told of their negative encounters are probably telling truths. I also think that those who knew him and tell of their postive encounters with him are probaby telling truths as well. My personal belief is there was only one perfect sinless man that ever walke this earth and he died and rose again over 2000 yrs ago. Anyone before or after him is going to show both sides of their coins the rest of their lives.

CharismaDove said:

RachB65 said:

CharismaDove said:

It was not the autopsy report we saw but only the death certificate...

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/02/princes-autopsy-report/

It stated his official cause of death.

avajane said:

I'm with you on that simply because I respect him and his memory. The only thing he gave us was his music, and although he had his muses for his songs, once those songs were released to the public, we formed our own stories through those songs so that they became ours as well, not totally ours but you know what I mean. Nonetheless, everyone has the right to express their opinon as pointless as it may seem. The best you can do is to ignore those conversations because they always end up leading to nothing and it becomes pure speculation.

Agreed. regardless, people will continue to probe into his personal life and/or treat him like a flawless figure who must be protected. im at peace with that, no way to stop it. I'm just glad i took myself out of there.

justAmeda said:

I agree with you CharismaDove. Those that did known him even if they did know anything that would put him in a negative light would most likely not do so out of a sense of loyalty to Prince but also a sense of not wanting fans to see him in that kind of light. I think the ones in the past who worked with him or knew him and told of their negative encounters are probably telling truths. I also think that those who knew him and tell of their postive encounters with him are probaby telling truths as well. My personal belief is there was only one perfect sinless man that ever walke this earth and he died and rose again over 2000 yrs ago. Anyone before or after him is going to show both sides of their coins the rest of their lives.

very good point.

I get how you feel. But truth be told a lot of people can not actually know a person they sleep next to everyday, if that person chooses to hide, it happens all the time.


As far as Prince goes, I gave up on trying to figure out various personally things going on in his life a while before he passed, so I pretty much take a lot of things now worth a grain of salt, it's entertainment. It still doesn't stop me from enjoying things I hear from people who were part of his everyday life. I'm not giving that up. I still care about him as a person even though he may not be all that I dreamed him to be, I think I'm capable of separated my fantasy from the reality. So far I like the guy.

All the speculation stuff, we've just ran out of fuel. The minute some new tidbit of information presents itself this place will be ablaze.

BillieBalloon said:

Hell we got no answers about his personal life when he was alive either so what's the difference? No matter what orgers know when to cut it off and not to go to far cuz in the end we all really loved Prince as a person. Im not gonna say anything to disrespect his memory and when he was alive I tried my best not to hurt his feelings then either, but hell I wanna know

rogifan said:

CharismaDove said:

RachB65 said:

CharismaDove said: It was not the autopsy report we saw but only the death certificate...

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/02/princes-autopsy-report/

It stated his official cause of death.

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It's still just a death certificate. That website is not a legitimate source to define the difference between a full autopsy report (sealed by MN law for 30 years) and a death certificate.

It really is important not to confuse the two.

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CharismaDove said:

nursev said:

laytonian said:

CharismaDove said:

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/02/princes-autopsy-report/

It stated his official cause of death.

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It's still just a death certificate. That website is not a legitimate source to define the difference between a full autopsy report (sealed by MN law for 30 years) and a death certificate.

It really is important not to confuse the two.

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I've brought this up before on a different post or two...the document is not even termed a death certificate, it is called a Release of Public Data Report: http://www.anokacounty.us...iew/10066. The Press Release cover sheet doesn't state death certificate anywhere on it. We have not seen the death certificate. From what I saw of Minnesota death certificate images in Google, it doesn't look like one either. Anyone with MN legal knowledge know differently?

[Edited 7/13/16 17:52pm]

Actually all the information coming out has helped me deal with his loss better. It makes him seem more real to me. Before I had always put him on a pedestal so his death hit me hard. I guess we all have different ways of dealing with the fact that he is gone now.

Do you realize Prince was a human being, isn't it? so, we are all of us a big bag of contradictions, as life itself; we are here to try to get all our shit togheter, to do as we preach.

derrick31 said:

nursev said:

Hell we got no answers about his personal life when he was alive either so what's the difference? No matter what orgers know when to cut it off and not to go to far cuz in the end we all really loved Prince as a person. Im not gonna say anything to disrespect his memory and when he was alive I tried my best not to hurt his feelings then either, but hell I wanna know

Celebrities are funny. They want our attention, love, adoration, and money. However, when fans want to know more about them, they are labeled intrusive. No matter what these celebs think, life doesn't work that way. Prince was a big-time celebrity and I'll give it to him, he did a great job of concealing his personal life from his fans. However, it all going to come out one day. Money talks and there are plenty of people who were on his payroll who aren't getting a check anymore. Eventually they will publish their stories about Prince. Too bad his family won't speak up for him before that happens.

Funny thing is, I'm with him on this. All I deserve to get is the cd or the concert. His business is his business, you know? Paying for that cd, that ticket, that movie doesn't grant me access to anything but the cd, concert, or movie. It's true -- demanding to know more than that really is intrusive, and it doesn't matter if they're a celebrity or not. I guess I've always found it slightly creepy to go digging past the public persona they choose to share. I mean, I sort of get wanting to know more, but I mostly don't. Why do people want to know more than a person is willing to share? It's so foreign to me to want to know that much more about them.

i only care if its within his music...especially the unreleased stuff

Blakbear said:

derrick31 said:

nursev said: Celebrities are funny. They want our attention, love, adoration, and money. However, when fans want to know more about them, they are labeled intrusive. No matter what these celebs think, life doesn't work that way. Prince was a big-time celebrity and I'll give it to him, he did a great job of concealing his personal life from his fans. However, it all going to come out one day. Money talks and there are plenty of people who were on his payroll who aren't getting a check anymore. Eventually they will publish their stories about Prince. Too bad his family won't speak up for him before that happens.

Funny thing is, I'm with him on this. All I deserve to get is the cd or the concert. His business is his business, you know? Paying for that cd, that ticket, that movie doesn't grant me access to anything but the cd, concert, or movie. It's true -- demanding to know more than that really is intrusive, and it doesn't matter if they're a celebrity or not. I guess I've always found it slightly creepy to go digging past the public persona they choose to share. I mean, I sort of get wanting to know more, but I mostly don't. Why do people want to know more than a person is willing to share? It's so foreign to me to want to know that much more about them.

ITA! And I hate when people say about a celebs loss of privacy "it comes with the territory." It shouldn't. Just cause someone is a celeb doesn't mean they should be devoid of their privacy, especially when it comes to their kids, family, their medical situations, etc. What they choose to share with us is all that should be shared with us. And if one celeb is very media friendly doesn't mean we should expect them all to be the same way.

derrick31 said:

nursev said:

Hell we got no answers about his personal life when he was alive either so what's the difference? No matter what orgers know when to cut it off and not to go to far cuz in the end we all really loved Prince as a person. Im not gonna say anything to disrespect his memory and when he was alive I tried my best not to hurt his feelings then either, but hell I wanna know

Celebrities are funny. They want our attention, love, adoration, and money. However, when fans want to know more about them, they are labeled intrusive. No matter what these celebs think, life doesn't work that way. Prince was a big-time celebrity and I'll give it to him, he did a great job of concealing his personal life from his fans. However, it all going to come out one day. Money talks and there are plenty of people who were on his payroll who aren't getting a check anymore. Eventually they will publish their stories about Prince. Too bad his family won't speak up for him before that happens.

Its sad, but all true. At first I thought maybe he had that on lock from the grave with the confidentiality agreements, but you have a point. Money will run out and folks will talk.

nursev said:

derrick31 said:

nursev said: Celebrities are funny. They want our attention, love, adoration, and money. However, when fans want to know more about them, they are labeled intrusive. No matter what these celebs think, life doesn't work that way. Prince was a big-time celebrity and I'll give it to him, he did a great job of concealing his personal life from his fans. However, it all going to come out one day. Money talks and there are plenty of people who were on his payroll who aren't getting a check anymore. Eventually they will publish their stories about Prince. Too bad his family won't speak up for him before that happens.

Its sad, but all true. At first I thought maybe he had that on lock from the grave with the confidentiality agreements, but you have a point. Money will run out and folks will talk.

at least SOME people will realize u wont be able to believe most of what will be said

luvsexy4all said:

nursev said:

Its sad, but all true. At first I thought maybe he had that on lock from the grave with the confidentiality agreements, but you have a point. Money will run out and folks will talk.

at least SOME people will realize u wont be able to believe most of what will be said

True, but how will you deal with it when it is finally out there? I mean Prince is gone now but will it change your admiration for him?

nursev said:

luvsexy4all said:

at least SOME people will realize u wont be able to believe most of what will be said

True, but how will you deal with it when it is finally out there? I mean Prince is gone now but will it change your admiration for him?

only if i find out he stole music or something like that..

Half the stories leaked are from celebs themselves.

destinyc1 said:

Half the stories leaked are from celebs themselves.

you think prince leaked, if so, which ones? he certainly won't be leaking any now. what's funny is since his passing so many good stories about him have come out, charity work, great stories from colleagues, etc. many of the bad stories were told while he was still alive.

endiadj said:

destinyc1 said:

Half the stories leaked are from celebs themselves.

you think prince leaked, if so, which ones? he certainly won't be leaking any now. what's funny is since his passing so many good stories about him have come out, charity work, great stories from colleagues, etc. many of the bad stories were told while he was still alive.

the troy beyer thing ...

luvsexy4all said:

endiadj said:

you think prince leaked, if so, which ones? he certainly won't be leaking any now. what's funny is since his passing so many good stories about him have come out, charity work, great stories from colleagues, etc. many of the bad stories were told while he was still alive.

the troy beyer thing ...

We all knew about Troy years ago though didnt we? I know I did