Look, I get the idea it would have been great if Prince had children, but I truly believe there is no chance he had any that we don't know about. The only one he had was with Mayte. He didn't have any "secret" children, there is no way Prince would have a child and then never meet them. Also, if he had any children he would have defintely written them into a will. Yes Prince had his eccentricities but he was not cruel like that.

Why all of a sudden it seems every month or week their is someone claiming Prince was their daddy with these big elaborate stories. None of this would be going on if Prince was alive to today. I don't understand it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

endiadj said:

Recently, but he had the opportunity. Now just 3 months later he talks about closure? Oh well... we all deal with things differently.

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All I know is I just checked out his video on Facebook and he has P's toofers! He also looks much younger in the video than in his photos.

It is sad a sad situation for everyone right now. It reminds me of Alanis' song lyrics....the mess you left when you went away.

To me his ears are kinda similar to? I could see it.... maybe. If there's a way he could just agree with the estate that he would not pursue any $$$ and just get tested....

Purpleone4Eva said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

All I know is I just checked out his video on Facebook and he has P's toofers! He also looks much younger in the video than in his photos.

It is sad a sad situation for everyone right now. It reminds me of Alanis' song lyrics....the mess you left when you went away.

To me his ears are kinda similar to? I could see it.... maybe. If there's a way he could just agree with the estate that he would not pursue any $$$ and just get tested....

YES...ITS THE TEETH..He even has the small side Gap....

I think they should let him test...Imagine how it is for him..NOT KNOWING....How that must gnaw away at him...

selah said:

"closure" is a word that gets thrown around,but the truth is that it may not come about,at least the way we think. Answering one question leads to others and depending on the person those further unanswered questions could drive you crazy.. Prince is gone,so even if this young man is his son,he may need to accept that just knowing who his biological father is may not get all his answers,he has to prepare himself for still feeling at a loose end... at the same time, he had adoptive parents right?... he's felt love and family.. sometimes we just have to be satisfied with what we have...

The thing that bothers me is Estabon states in his Court documents, I may not be his son, so let me test, it will end the question. Now it appears the whole equal protection of adoptees will be litigated to a higher court causing further attorney fees for all involved including the estate. Bremer Trust attorneys will be awarded astronimical attorney fees from P's estate.

They let a jail bird test with only the validation of his Mother stating she had a one night stand with Prince in 1976 in Missouri. Estabon has the validation of P's business associate who verified P's brief affair with the mother. But the Judge states it doesnt matter, you lost all legal rights once you were adopted.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

selah said:

"closure" is a word that gets thrown around,but the truth is that it may not come about,at least the way we think. Answering one question leads to others and depending on the person those further unanswered questions could drive you crazy.. Prince is gone,so even if this young man is his son,he may need to accept that just knowing who his biological father is may not get all his answers,he has to prepare himself for still feeling at a loose end... at the same time, he had adoptive parents right?... he's felt love and family.. sometimes we just have to be satisfied with what we have...

The thing that bothers me is Estabon states in his Court documents, I may not be his son, so let me test, it will end the question. Now it appears the whole equal protection of adoptees will be litigated to a higher court causing further attorney fees for all involved including the estate. Bremer Trust attorneys will be awarded astronimical attorney fees from P's estate.

They let a jail bird test with only the validation of his Mother stating she had a one night stand with Prince in 1976 in Missouri. Estabon has the validation of P's business associate who verified P's brief affair with the mother. But the Judge states it doesnt matter, you lost all legal rights once you were adopted.

It certainly does seem odd. Here in the UK, even children born to other parents but from donated sperm / eggs have the right to know the identity of the donor.

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I have a feeling Estabon may, in the end, get his DNA test - but it will be a long, costly, exhausting process.

It certainly does seem odd. Here in the UK, even children born to other parents but from donated sperm / eggs have the right to know the identity of the donor.

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I have a feeling Estabon may, in the end, get his DNA test - but it will be a long, costly, exhausting process.[/b]

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DakotaLady said:

now this one seems to have some vibe to it....

If Prince's DNA is no longer available at that time, he could nicely ask Tyka if she would help by being tested against his to see if they can rule out a blood relation. Tyka shares the exact same two parents with Prince so it would work. At the minimum, it should be able to say if there was any chance that Prince was his father.

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SHoot me now if you want..

But Im saying that TYKA herself is responsible for Estabon not getting a chance/look in..

I know a lot of people are in SUpport of TYKA, but Im NOT.

The way she handled things from the Beginning to now is entirely dishonourable and without respect...

THis boy has opened up his face book page and he is getting a whole lot of LOVE from the Purple Family....I believe he will get his DNA Test....

It will take time, but if he keeps getting the positive responses that he has been getting, things will blow up in his favour...

At this point, he MAY or MAY NOT be Princes son...He should be allowed a Paternity Test...

SOmething stinks bad...

THey allow this Criminal Carlin, but Deny Estabon ????

Dibblekins said:

luv4u said:

Let him have his DNA test. Once it comes back as a "no you are not related" that should shut him up.

The court denying anyone the right to a DNA test is IMO silly. Do the test, rule them out/in, whats the BFD?

^but then everyone and their mommas will be claiming relation and want a dna test. they cost money and time. unless it's ruled a serious inquiry, then forget it. but how that jailbird who wanted to kill prince got a dna test still baffles me.

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endiadj said:

^but then everyone and their mommas will be claiming relation and want a dna test. they cost money and time. unless it's ruled a serious inquiry, then forget it. but how that jailbird who wanted to kill prince got a dna test still baffles me.

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Hey, if the claimant wants to spent the $$$....and this estate is so tangled up, there's plenty of time. Just my 2c.

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icequeen78 said:

Also he has a twin brother not a sister and I just saw something where someone said to esty that Prince wanted to meet him but the person didn't tell Esty this until just now. He was crushed. I hope this situation is sorted out either way for closure

In Estabon's Objections filed with the Court, a business associate of P's approached him and wanted to set up a meeting. Estabon hesitated because he feared rejection. Before he could get his nerve up to agree to the meeting, P passed away. So Estabon knew about this potential meeting before P passed. He said on his FB page that it is his biggest regret.

DakotaLady said:

Lovejunky said:

SHoot me now if you want..

But Im saying that TYKA herself is responsible for Estabon not getting a chance/look in..

I know a lot of people are in SUpport of TYKA, but Im NOT.

The way she handled things from the Beginning to now is entirely dishonourable and without respect...

THis boy has opened up his face book page and he is getting a whole lot of LOVE from the Purple Family....I believe he will get his DNA Test....

It will take time, but if he keeps getting the positive responses that he has been getting, things will blow up in his favour...

At this point, he MAY or MAY NOT be Princes son...He should be allowed a Paternity Test...

SOmething stinks bad...

THey allow this Criminal Carlin, but Deny Estabon ????

The reason Tyka may have put a stop to it is she feels he is after the money. If she didn't feel threatened she might be more receptive to this kid. He lost any opportunity at the money when he was adopted out but she might be worried about him pulling years long appeals and crap so that she and the siblings will have to wait forever for the money. That wouldn't be right either.

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The law is the same in my state and my family just went through this with my granddaughters when their dad died. He had other children that had been adopted out but only my granddaughters were declared heirs because they were not adopted out. So Minnesota is not special with this law. A person can not expect to collect from their bio parents and adopted parents once they are adopted. The adoptive parents are their legal parents.

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Carlin was able to go through the testing because he was NOT adopted out. They are two completely different situations.

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I am not supporting anyone in this fight, including Tyka. I am not trying to back up anyone or their actions. I just understand how this stuff works, to some degree.

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I get all that Dakota...

But sometimes the LAW needs reform...remember there was once a time on this earth where the Law Prohibited Women From Voting ?

If these boys were adopted...So What...

That does not Change their Genetics...

and If the Adoption RULE excludes their elligability to have part of the inheritance...So be it,

Thats not a reason to dissalow the Genetic Testing...

Estabon has repeatedly stated..he just wants to KNOW....

Why should TYKA Feel threatened ?

Only IF he is in fact Princes son would there be a threat to her.

It makes her case for total control very weak...Even if the Law DOES Support her, and maintain that the Money stays with her and her siblings,

She is not going to look GOOD if its found that there are actually genetic offspring and she is refusing to acknowledge them....

He is going to get his test. The court is NOT going to say "too bad you shouldn't have been adopted."
if he is a match he gets it... and I guess any others that pop up too.

I am sure Tyka wants to stop it... but that is HER greed... it will make her look very bad if she blocks anyone from having a test.

i would say anyone that want to pay for the test should be tested.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

He is going to get his test. The court is NOT going to say "too bad you shouldn't have been adopted."
if he is a match he gets it... and I guess any others that pop up too.

I am sure Tyka wants to stop it... but that is HER greed... it will make her look very bad if she blocks anyone from having a test.

i would say anyone that want to pay for the test should be tested.

The Judge already issue an Order in regard to Estabon that said, sorry, your adopted you dont get to have a DNA test.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

He is going to get his test. The court is NOT going to say "too bad you shouldn't have been adopted."
if he is a match he gets it... and I guess any others that pop up too.

I am sure Tyka wants to stop it... but that is HER greed... it will make her look very bad if she blocks anyone from having a test.

i would say anyone that want to pay for the test should be tested.

The Judge already issue an Order in regard to Estabon that said, sorry, your adopted you dont get to have a DNA test.

yeah I know that=-it was stated in the topic title. I am saying it will be appealed and overturned.

one issue may be that if Prince did not give up his rights then it may be the bases to reverse the adoption as happened before... when the father never relinquished rights.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/0...on-battle/

this is something that could go all the way to the SCOTUS.

in the end if he is prince's child he will get it and the siblings will not.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

selah said:

"closure" is a word that gets thrown around,but the truth is that it may not come about,at least the way we think. Answering one question leads to others and depending on the person those further unanswered questions could drive you crazy.. Prince is gone,so even if this young man is his son,he may need to accept that just knowing who his biological father is may not get all his answers,he has to prepare himself for still feeling at a loose end... at the same time, he had adoptive parents right?... he's felt love and family.. sometimes we just have to be satisfied with what we have...

The thing that bothers me is Estabon states in his Court documents, I may not be his son, so let me test, it will end the question. Now it appears the whole equal protection of adoptees will be litigated to a higher court causing further attorney fees for all involved including the estate. Bremer Trust attorneys will be awarded astronimical attorney fees from P's estate.

They let a jail bird test with only the validation of his Mother stating she had a one night stand with Prince in 1976 in Missouri. Estabon has the validation of P's business associate who verified P's brief affair with the mother. But the Judge states it doesnt matter, you lost all legal rights once you were adopted.

Ok, so I watched the whole 1 hour Live Facebook video that Estabon posted last night. He sang some Prince songs a cappela. Told a little about his life. Sang some songs he wrote. I don't usually watch anything like this and as soon as I started watching, I couldn't stop. He seems like he really wants to know if Prince really is his father.

To recap: Supposedly, Estabon's mom got pregnant in 1984 in the NY area. She did drugs & the Fraternal Twin brothers went into Foster Care and Estabon was adopted. He only recently found his mother. & found out Prince might be his father.

Someone in Prince's camp knows about this & took Estabon backstage to meet Prince, but he was too scared. Wow, I get that. Can u imagine? Estabon thought he still had time to meet Prince & determine if Prince was his father.

It seems like Estabon filed back in June or July, maybe further back. But since he is adopted, the court will not allow him to have the DNA test. Because of the adoption, he already has legal parents, even if he is a blood son, so the judge has said he can't be an heir.

Estabon can really sing. No lie, he's good. I'm leaning toward the fact that he might be Prince's son. It also sounds like Prince never knew this woman got pregnant. & that the mother sounds like a drug addict. Had twin boys, gave them up.

Prince's mom, Mattie, is a twin. So twins run in Prince's family.

If only for Estabon to find out yes or no, I hope he gets his DNA test. If Prince isn't his father, he can move on.

I believe there might actually be a child/children out there from Prince's early days. The Midwest guy that allegedly tested 99% could be proof of that.

A lot of Prince fams on Facebook believe Estabon might be his son and have started a petition for Estabon to get a DNA test. Not sure if it will do any good.