* Playing on sexuality, race, religion
* Explicit lyrics
* Bikini briefs and trench-coats
* Ejaculating guitar

That was all cool back then - but...

'incest is everything it's said to be'
what the fuck is that about? what the fuck is that shit about?

Can any of the wise old school (supernova, calhoun sq, rdhull, etc) offer an explaination or defence for 'sister'?

Dirty Mind, the album, was deliberately provocative in nature; it was designed to be shocking. Some might argue that it is not authentic...

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[This message was edited Mon Mar 31 0:15:29 PST 2003 by Anji]

I have no defense for this song, I can't even listen to it Someone mentioned on another thread that he fantasized about having sex w/ his sister to write this song but I never looked @ it like that. Could have been based on someone he knew, something he heard about - you never know. But I agree w/ Anji that the intent was to shock. He was all about being "in your face" w/ stuff @ that time IMO...

WHAT THE FUCK ARE 'YOU' THINKING!?

This song is fucking great.
So rock&roll!
So 'I don't give a fuck what you think of me!"

Even though "Sister" is a disturbing song,it works in the context of the album.It was clearly designed to shock people and get alot of controversy.I don't think it's autobiographical or anything.Now that he is a JW,I bet Prince regrets doing that song,but he was a different person back then.

Was Prince abused a child? Sometimes you have to wonder.In 1980,he does a song called "Sister",which basically claims he was raped by his sister.Then,in 1994,he does a song called "Papa",where he basically says he was physically abused by his father.

DavidEye said:

Papa also sounds like it was designed to be shocking; I'd be surprised if it's autobiographical.

Anji said:

I believe that Song to be a Fact&while it wasn't a Song that totally knocks me out I always thought this was a Song Prince did to say that I Understand what Michael Jackson has been through.I always thought this was Prince's Song for MJ in a Brother you aren't alone on this tip.as for "Sister" believe it or not Relatives can even try to turn out there own Flesh&Blood.while the song plays into the Context of Taboo Pop&Subject Matter there may be a Bigger story there that just hasn't been fully told?

mistermaxxx said:

You're right in as much as both songs could be factual. I'd be more suprised if Sister was because he sounds like he enjoyed reflecting on that experience.

mistermaxxx said:

It always comes back to MJ w/ you, don't it??

Anji said:

depending on how&what went down can leave a Person with some out of this world feelings.He drops little hints at things over time but with Him you never get the full scoop but there is always more to what He says&going by how things have gone in His Career He got things out of His System&that alone took alot.

Does he really say "She's the reason for my bi-sexuality"?

gainsbourg said:

Prince was in a defiant and rebellious mood on that record. It could be that he was angry about a lot of things in his childhood, the way he was treated by his father. Those angry feelings could have given rise to a provocative song about having sex with his sister.

Maybe he was angry with his sister and was projecting his anger onto her by fantasising about having sex with her.

Or maybe Prince fantasised about Michael Jackson being his sister, eh mistermaxx?

As for the shocking nature of the song go to the source, who said that he wasn't being deliberately shocking, he was deliberately being himself.

ConsciousContact said:

I like that point.

Anji said:

That's what I always assumed he said...lol...does anyone have the correct lyric?

That song is genuinely disturbing. In that sense it fulfills its goal.

Prince was being controversial and it worked. As Davideye said it suits the context of the album.

I do not believe its autobiographical however. Its no more true to life than 'Another lonely Christmas'.

DavidEye said:

[b]Yes, the correct lyric is "She's the reason for my bi-sexuality"

Dirty Mind Era was like.. the last time he was living in the real world. Controversial as it is.

Gotta come back 2 earth bro!

Its just a song, christ it isnt like he actuall released a clip of him having sex with his sister.

I actually think the song is quite good, and amuzing in a way. And the actual lyric is "She's the reason for my, uh, sexuality"

As for Papa, it is another great song, I think you are all reading to much in2 all of this. Next U will b saying that he was suicidal when he wrote Sometimes it Snows in April.

http://www.discography.de/index0.html

Musically,I think the song is great.Very punkish and aggressive.I love how it segues into "Partyup".

's only a song, ladies and gentlemen...and a pretty cool one, at that (save 4 the subject matter, which is sorta creepie). it's almost like a ramones song, in the way that it's no more than a minute long...and quite frankly, ya'll shouldn't be complainin about it, the damned thing ends just as soon as it starts!

DavidEye said:

It fades the word out but I always assumed "She's the reason for my FUCKED up sexuality" was implied.

gainsbourg said:

clean yall's ears out, s'ilvous plait.



it's the reason for my editality....
[This message was edited Mon Mar 31 5:43:20 PST 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]

Let's see...


"My sister never made love to anyone else but me...she's the reason for my bisexuality"


Or...

"My sister never made love to anyone else but me...she's the reason for my,uh,sexuality"

Or...

"My sister never made love to anyone else but me...she's the reason for my fucked up sexuality"



Isn't it funny how we all hear something different?

DavidEye said:

i know!!!

DavidEye said:

Well it is literally "uh", I just feel "fucked" is implied.

I always interpreted the the references to 'incest' and 'fucking' as being screwed by those closest to you. ie. your family. By this, i do not mean in the sexual sense but moreso in the context of 'u are my parents, my brother/sister and you let me down'

that or he's just one dirrrty mutha fucka

howcomeudontcallme said:

that's exactly how i see it, 2.

CalhounSq said:

it never fails...

I LOVE this song, I think it's a stroke of genius as a pop song - and PERFECTLY placed on the album.

Just when the listener thinks he can't get any more explicit after 'Head' - BOOM!!
[This message was edited Mon Mar 31 8:49:08 PST 2003 by MiaBocca]