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Reply #30 posted 06/20/16 8:33pm

sharonbell

nursev said:

AnonymousFan said:

Guys, I'm not hating or trying to be malicious. It's just weird. It's like they said "alright, glad that's over" and went back to whatever they were doing. I've been thinking of Tyka sympathetically, but this recent silence.... Even his nephews seem unbothered. Andre, Mayte, Morris and other friends seem more deeply affected.

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I agree...no matter what folks say. It all looks kinda suspect to me. Some of these folks hadnt seen P in years confused

nurse, maybe Prince didn't want to be bothered with them. Except Tyka. Maybe that is why they hadn't seen or heard from him. I can understand that, some were much older than him and did not grow up in the same house as him.

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Reply #31 posted 06/20/16 8:37pm

nursev

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nursev said:




AnonymousFan said:


Guys, I'm not hating or trying to be malicious. It's just weird. It's like they said "alright, glad that's over" and went back to whatever they were doing. I've been thinking of Tyka sympathetically, but this recent silence.... Even his nephews seem unbothered. Andre, Mayte, Morris and other friends seem more deeply affected.


[Edited 6/20/16 18:21pm]



I agree...no matter what folks say. It all looks kinda suspect to me. Some of these folks hadnt seen P in years confused



nurse, maybe Prince didn't want to be bothered with them. Except Tyka. Maybe that is why they hadn't seen or heard from him. I can understand that, some were much older than him and did not grow up in the same house as him.



true...I can see it. a lot of family members are like that
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Reply #32 posted 06/20/16 8:59pm

UChild

nursev said:

sharonbell said:

nurse, maybe Prince didn't want to be bothered with them. Except Tyka. Maybe that is why they hadn't seen or heard from him. I can understand that, some were much older than him and did not grow up in the same house as him.

true...I can see it. a lot of family members are like that

I know we would like to think that we "knew" Prince, we did not. We knew him through his music. (Which is how he wanted it.) We don't know his family relationships, only what he revealed in a small number of interviews. The fact is family members fall out with each other today and are back together at the family reunion tomorrow. So, yes, I feel his family cares for him and his legacy. Let's leave them alone, so they can grieve the way they wish to...Not how we feel they should.

Also, I feel the family is doing the right thing by waiting to do a memorial/tribute in August. They are probably waiting to do it the way they feel is best.

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Reply #33 posted 06/20/16 9:22pm

nursev

UChild said:

nursev said:

sharonbell said: true...I can see it. a lot of family members are like that

I know we would like to think that we "knew" Prince, we did not. We knew him through his music. (Which is how he wanted it.) We don't know his family relationships, only what he revealed in a small number of interviews. The fact is family members fall out with each other today and are back together at the family reunion tomorrow. So, yes, I feel his family cares for him and his legacy. Let's leave them alone, so they can grieve the way they wish to...Not how we feel they should.

Also, I feel the family is doing the right thing by waiting to do a memorial/tribute in August. They are probably waiting to do it the way they feel is best.

"I just can't believe all the things people say....Ican't understand human curiosity" wink

I guess we shall see if they care or not. Doesnt matter anymore cuz hes gone.

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Reply #34 posted 06/20/16 11:09pm

ForeverPaisley

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2020 said:

They're doing exactly what all of us are doing...grieving. Just let them be. dove

Exactly yeahthat

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Reply #35 posted 06/20/16 11:12pm

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ForeverPaisley said:

luv4u said:

Exactly yeahthat

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Reply #36 posted 06/20/16 11:16pm

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Prince didn't go to his own mother's funeral. Not sure if he went to his dad's. Or maybe it was the other way around. Not that it matters because it is none our my fckin business. Period.

Folks deal with grief in their own ways. Enough with these kind of threads. It makes us all look like idiots! Especially if we can't mock the poster by making jokes in these kinds of absurd threads.

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Reply #37 posted 06/21/16 12:46am

dayzofwyld

AnonymousFan said:

I know what this question looks like, but considering the silence and the way they treated Prince, it seems like they just don't care anymore. Thinking of Tyka's response at the gathering a few days after - she seemed really non-chalant. It seems like she was only reacting because it was expected and now it seems like they're just over it. It's odd. Do they just want nothing to do with him anymore?

Please stop pretending you know what they are going through, Prince was an incredible artist but he was also her brother...let them grieve in peace and mind your own business...it's nothing to do with us

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Reply #38 posted 06/21/16 1:08am

Eileen

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They do care. He was their brother! I can't even imagine having to bury/cremate my brother while the world looks om and criticizes my every move. Poor Tyka, man. All of them, actually. Why is everyone so persistent in attacking these poor people? What more can they do? They have to get his estate together as they grieve, and they can't just toss that aside for a public display of mourning. They're doing the best they can -- lay off them already.


Absolutely.

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Reply #39 posted 06/21/16 1:37am

Bunsterdk

Family relations like marriage and other relationship relations are for those involved to know and feel. The rest of us should just butt out and leave them alone unless they ask us to get involved.

Nothing stops fans or anyone from arranging something if they need it to find closure. Take responsibility for your own grief and, please, leave others alone to deal with their's. Or not. We have no right to judge even if they don't care.

I have a half sister and I won't grieve her personally if she should die. It would be sad on the same level as if a neighbour died. I would feel sorry for those affected by it, but it would not make any difference in my life to be brutally honest. The same would be true for her, I'm sure, and that's just the way it is. No biggie.
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Reply #40 posted 06/21/16 4:20am

Eileen

Bunsterdk said:

We have no right to judge even if they don't care.


Another excellent point.

It wouldn't mean fan's lives have been changed more than theirs, it wouldn't alter whichever rules of inheritance are put in place for the estate, or whether or not beneficiaries or the administrators have the right to make whatever decisions they make....



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Reply #41 posted 06/21/16 4:33am

PURPLEIZED3121

Has there ever been a more stupid, insensitive & juvenile thread topic ever posted?

Why has this not been locked? truly speechless.

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Reply #42 posted 06/21/16 8:34am

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AnonymousFan said:

I know what this question looks like, but considering the silence and the way they treated Prince, it seems like they just don't care anymore. Thinking of Tyka's response at the gathering a few days after - she seemed really non-chalant. It seems like she was only reacting because it was expected and now it seems like they're just over it. It's odd. Do they just want nothing to do with him anymore?

I couldn't agree with you more. I believe they only care about money. Sad but true.

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Reply #43 posted 06/21/16 8:45am

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IvoryTower said:

AnonymousFan said:

I know what this question looks like, but considering the silence and the way they treated Prince, it seems like they just don't care anymore. Thinking of Tyka's response at the gathering a few days after - she seemed really non-chalant. It seems like she was only reacting because it was expected and now it seems like they're just over it. It's odd. Do they just want nothing to do with him anymore?

I couldn't agree with you more. I believe they only care about money. Sad but true.


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Reply #44 posted 06/21/16 8:52am

Blakbear

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Has there ever been a more stupid, insensitive & juvenile thread topic ever posted?


Why has this not been locked? truly speechless.


Because a lot of people here are freaking brats who obviously have nothing better to do with their time than find shit to pout about; they need to throw a tantrum over everything to "prove their love", all the while looking like imbeciles. To tell you the truth, I don't think they love this guy like they say they do. They love their feelings about their image of him more.
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Reply #45 posted 06/21/16 9:40am

WeepyEyedWhite
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Genesia said:

Please, Lord - make it stop. disbelief

I purposely look for you reply on threads like this. You make my day and often echo my sentiments! lol

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Reply #46 posted 06/21/16 9:52am

Genesia

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WeepyEyedWhiteGirl said:

Genesia said:

Please, Lord - make it stop. disbelief

I purposely look for you reply on threads like this. You make my day and often echo my sentiments! lol


Aw, shucks. redface

But seriously - some folks need to stop thinking this is about them and their wants.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #47 posted 06/21/16 12:40pm

1Sasha

Genesia said:

WeepyEyedWhiteGirl said:

I purposely look for you reply on threads like this. You make my day and often echo my sentiments! lol


Aw, shucks. redface

But seriously - some folks need to stop thinking this is about them and their wants.

Imagine you live paycheck to paycheck, and your relative is the finest musician/entertainer on the planet. For decades!!! You might live in a house he owns, or you might have no contact with him at all. And then he dies intestate and you might be entitled to tens of millions of dollars. The world's press wants you, the authorities want you, lawyers want you ... Do you even own a suit? Without a weekly stipend from this relative, can you pay your utility bill? Or put gasoline in your car? These people are in a world they know nothing about, with all sorts of lawyers, financial planners, etc., coming at them. I personally don't think they deserve a dime if they had no contact with Prince over the years, but with no will, all bets are off.

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Reply #48 posted 06/21/16 12:45pm

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1Sasha said:

Genesia said:


Aw, shucks. redface

But seriously - some folks need to stop thinking this is about them and their wants.

Imagine you live paycheck to paycheck, and your relative is the finest musician/entertainer on the planet. For decades!!! You might live in a house he owns, or you might have no contact with him at all. And then he dies intestate and you might be entitled to tens of millions of dollars. The world's press wants you, the authorities want you, lawyers want you ... Do you even own a suit? Without a weekly stipend from this relative, can you pay your utility bill? Or put gasoline in your car? These people are in a world they know nothing about, with all sorts of lawyers, financial planners, etc., coming at them. I personally don't think they deserve a dime if they had no contact with Prince over the years, but with no will, all bets are off.


I'm not sure why you quoted me, but okay. confuse

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Reply #49 posted 06/21/16 6:23pm

ForeverPaisley

suomynona said:

ForeverPaisley said:

Psst! How does a person get the Canadian flag in their signature. I tried using the emotion code thingy but as you can see, I failed big time. loser


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Reply #50 posted 06/21/16 7:00pm

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Fans are funny. According to a small portion of users on this website, either those close to Prince care too much (Mayte, Sheila E., Judith -- according to some people around these parts), don't care at all (Demaris, many, many others -- according to some people around these parts). Are any former associated artists and people (hint hint, wrong forum) caring about him just the right amount, cuckoo birds?

Can we just draw up a rule on the Org that we all agree to disagree? Or do we need a new thread posted daily about how someone close to him doesn't seem to care or cares too much?

It is amazing how some folks assumptions about those that were or were not close to him, feel the need to post here, as if their opinion doesn't make them look less insane than they truly are. To everyone. But especially to those that were in fact close to him -- and suffering as much as any of you.

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Reply #51 posted 06/21/16 9:45pm

derrick31

UChild said:



nursev said:


sharonbell said:


nurse, maybe Prince didn't want to be bothered with them. Except Tyka. Maybe that is why they hadn't seen or heard from him. I can understand that, some were much older than him and did not grow up in the same house as him.



true...I can see it. a lot of family members are like that




I know we would like to think that we "knew" Prince, we did not. We knew him through his music. (Which is how he wanted it.) We don't know his family relationships, only what he revealed in a small number of interviews. The fact is family members fall out with each other today and are back together at the family reunion tomorrow. So, yes, I feel his family cares for him and his legacy. Let's leave them alone, so they can grieve the way they wish to...Not how we feel they should.



Also, I feel the family is doing the right thing by waiting to do a memorial/tribute in August. They are probably waiting to do it the way they feel is best.



"I just can't believe all the things people say....Ican't understand human curiosity" wink




These people don't care. They probably didn't even know him anymore. They could have coordinated something with the city and other entertainers and had something for Prince. Prince was a MAJOR STAR AND A WORLDWIDE ICON. This is ridiculous. Funny they were sure quick to make claims to his estate, but not a damn thing to honor his legacy. I guess they want to see how much they can get before they do anything. Sad
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Reply #52 posted 06/22/16 2:28pm

Blakbear

derrick31 said:

UChild said:

I know we would like to think that we "knew" Prince, we did not. We knew him through his music. (Which is how he wanted it.) We don't know his family relationships, only what he revealed in a small number of interviews. The fact is family members fall out with each other today and are back together at the family reunion tomorrow. So, yes, I feel his family cares for him and his legacy. Let's leave them alone, so they can grieve the way they wish to...Not how we feel they should.

Also, I feel the family is doing the right thing by waiting to do a memorial/tribute in August. They are probably waiting to do it the way they feel is best.

"I just can't believe all the things people say....Ican't understand human curiosity" wink

These people don't care. They probably didn't even know him anymore. They could have coordinated something with the city and other entertainers and had something for Prince. Prince was a MAJOR STAR AND A WORLDWIDE ICON. This is ridiculous. Funny they were sure quick to make claims to his estate, but not a damn thing to honor his legacy. I guess they want to see how much they can get before they do anything. Sad

Really? He was their brother first, and all that other stuff after. They don't bloody HAVE TO do a damn thing. The hell is wrong with you -- leave these people alone with this nonsense. People like you are just so selfish and ridiculous. Oh, my /GOD/ I am so tired of this kind of arrogant bullshit with you asshats.

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Reply #53 posted 06/22/16 6:16pm

derrick31

Blakbear said:

derrick31 said:

UChild said: These people don't care. They probably didn't even know him anymore. They could have coordinated something with the city and other entertainers and had something for Prince. Prince was a MAJOR STAR AND A WORLDWIDE ICON. This is ridiculous. Funny they were sure quick to make claims to his estate, but not a damn thing to honor his legacy. I guess they want to see how much they can get before they do anything. Sad

Really? He was their brother first, and all that other stuff after. They don't bloody HAVE TO do a damn thing. The hell is wrong with you -- leave these people alone with this nonsense. People like you are just so selfish and ridiculous. Oh, my /GOD/ I am so tired of this kind of arrogant bullshit with you asshats.

I don't think wanting a public memorial is selfish. Prince had millions of fans. A public memorial would be a celebration of this wonderful man's life. A $2000 funeral isn't really fitting for a man who meant so much to so many people. It's absolutely mind-boggling that nothing has been done in Minneapolis to celebrate this man's life. I live in LA and the city of Los Angeles had a free public memorial at City Hall for Prince. Thousands of people showed up and this isn't even his hometown.

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Reply #54 posted 06/22/16 6:23pm

nursev

derrick31 said:

Blakbear said:

Really? He was their brother first, and all that other stuff after. They don't bloody HAVE TO do a damn thing. The hell is wrong with you -- leave these people alone with this nonsense. People like you are just so selfish and ridiculous. Oh, my /GOD/ I am so tired of this kind of arrogant bullshit with you asshats.

I don't think wanting a public memorial is selfish. Prince had millions of fans. A public memorial would be a celebration of this wonderful man's life. A $2000 funeral isn't really fitting for a man who meant so much to so many people. It's absolutely mind-boggling that nothing has been done in Minneapolis to celebrate this man's life. I live in LA and the city of Los Angeles had a free public memorial at City Hall for Prince. Thousands of people showed up and this isn't even his hometown.

wow that says alot

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Reply #55 posted 06/22/16 6:41pm

Blakbear

derrick31 said:

Blakbear said:

Really? He was their brother first, and all that other stuff after. They don't bloody HAVE TO do a damn thing. The hell is wrong with you -- leave these people alone with this nonsense. People like you are just so selfish and ridiculous. Oh, my /GOD/ I am so tired of this kind of arrogant bullshit with you asshats.

I don't think wanting a public memorial is selfish. Prince had millions of fans. A public memorial would be a celebration of this wonderful man's life. A $2000 funeral isn't really fitting for a man who meant so much to so many people. It's absolutely mind-boggling that nothing has been done in Minneapolis to celebrate this man's life. I live in LA and the city of Los Angeles had a free public memorial at City Hall for Prince. Thousands of people showed up and this isn't even his hometown.

I don't have a problem with /wanting/ one, to be clear. It's the constant agitating and demanding that the family absolutely MUST DO IT BECAUSE DAMMIT WE'RE OWED attitude that's starting to grate on my nerves. And the cruel, unkind, and unnecessary attacking of this family also bothers me to no end. I mean, why must fams treat these people like slaves to respond to the fans' will, as though they're not people deserving of a little distance and respect?

All this hatred and vitriol that spills out everywhere is just... why? Why are people so nasty to a group of people they don't even know? Admittedly, there are times here when /I've/ been deliberately nasty at others here, especially when I see these constant attacks -- and nope, I don't think I've been right with my tone, either, to be perfectly honest -- against people they don't even know and don't have a right to expect anything of, it really just makes me want to start baging heads together until people get their shit together.

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Reply #56 posted 06/22/16 6:44pm

nursev

Blakbear said:

derrick31 said:

I don't think wanting a public memorial is selfish. Prince had millions of fans. A public memorial would be a celebration of this wonderful man's life. A $2000 funeral isn't really fitting for a man who meant so much to so many people. It's absolutely mind-boggling that nothing has been done in Minneapolis to celebrate this man's life. I live in LA and the city of Los Angeles had a free public memorial at City Hall for Prince. Thousands of people showed up and this isn't even his hometown.

I don't have a problem with /wanting/ one, to be clear. It's the constant agitating and demanding that the family absolutely MUST DO IT BECAUSE DAMMIT WE'RE OWED attitude that's starting to grate on my nerves. And the cruel, unkind, and unnecessary attacking of this family also bothers me to no end. I mean, why must fams treat these people like slaves to respond to the fans' will, as though they're not people deserving of a little distance and respect?

All this hatred and vitriol that spills out everywhere is just... why? Why are people so nasty to a group of people they don't even know? Admittedly, there are times here when /I've/ been deliberately nasty at others here, especially when I see these constant attacks -- and nope, I don't think I've been right with my tone, either, to be perfectly honest -- against people they don't even know and don't have a right to expect anything of, it really just makes me want to start baging heads together until people get their shit together.

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Reply #57 posted 06/22/16 9:26pm

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My thoughts...
Paisley Park is still tied up due to an ongoing police investigation. I'm thinking the family was told it would be cleared up by August, hence the planning of a memorial then. The only way to accommodate all the people that would be anticipated would be to hold it outdoors. That takes time.
His sister was at PP the Saturday before he passed. He had just had a near death experience a couple of days before, and I'm thinking he talked to her about his final wishes. I believe she's doing exactly what she was told to do.
How do we know that his family hasn't had a private memorial/funeral? They aren't speaking publicly so we don't know what went down. But to question if they care or not because they aren't doing what YOU think they should do is wrong.
Call me selfish, but my only hope is when/if they do have a memorial, tickets are made available to MN peeps first, especially if it's at the new stadium and not outdoors somewhere!! You know anytime anything Prince related happens here, people lose their damn minds and come in from everywhere and we end up out in the cold
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Reply #58 posted 06/23/16 1:22am

DiscoBallz

It is stunning how many people spend time forming opinions on something that is none of their damn business. The self absorption in this thread is palpable. Who the fuck are y'all to say a damn thing about how someone grieves and what you think motivates them mere months after their brother/uncle/whatever died? Gross.

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Reply #59 posted 06/23/16 8:30am

1Sasha


What if a group of his musician friends and bandmembers made a recording to benefit charity? It could be sold wherever online for $2 or so, and all monies would go to group(s) he supported. Broadway stars just did this for the Orlando victims. I, personally, don't need to see two hours of Prince covers; I'll watch one of his DVDs for the real thing. The time has passed, in my opinion, for a memorial. Prince simply didn't seem like someone who was comfortable with accolades. He knew he was exceptional but it seemed like he wanted to help people in his last years more than anything else.

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