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Thread started 06/10/16 1:48pm

thisisreece

The synth symphony at the end of Glam Slam...

Halle-fucking-lujah! (or Hundalasilhah!) How great is that ending? And how it falls into Annastesia like a transition to one of the darker sequences from Fantasia or something. As a whole, Lovesexy isn't one of my favourite Prince albums, but listening to moments like that, and songs like Annastesia, I Wish U Heaven, and Positivity and I could be convinced it's the best album he ever did.

Anyone else love it?

Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #1 posted 06/10/16 2:09pm

PeteSilas

thisisreece said:

Halle-fucking-lujah! (or Hundalasilhah!) How great is that ending? And how it falls into Annastesia like a transition to one of the darker sequences from Fantasia or something. As a whole, Lovesexy isn't one of my favourite Prince albums, but listening to moments like that, and songs like Annastesia, I Wish U Heaven, and Positivity and I could be convinced it's the best album he ever did.

Anyone else love it?

i loved it from the first, I believe Matt Fink wrote it, though, not positive.

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Reply #2 posted 06/10/16 2:20pm

RJOrion

i always loved it...it sounds apocalyptic and grandiose...perfect segue into "Annastesia"

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Reply #3 posted 06/10/16 2:22pm

BlackandRising

RJOrion said:

i always loved it...it sounds apocalyptic and grandiose...perfect segue into "Annastesia"

wasn't that based on some classical composition? I remember reading that somewhere but can't recall exactly what it was

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Reply #4 posted 06/10/16 2:22pm

Guitarhero

yes Lovesexy is in my top 5 Prince albums. So i agree with the OP about Glam Slam ending always loved Dr Fink.

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Reply #5 posted 06/10/16 2:51pm

mtlfan

Divine. Can anyone confirm if it's Fink or Prince? I always guessed Prince. If it's Fink - this, plus "Head," wow.

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Reply #6 posted 06/10/16 2:54pm

Guitarhero

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Divine. Can anyone confirm if it's Fink or Prince? I always guessed Prince. If it's Fink - this, plus "Head," wow.

Am only guessing it's Fink , could be Prince.

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Reply #7 posted 06/10/16 3:00pm

PeteSilas

Fink was the best keyboardist in Prince's circle, I believe it's him.

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Reply #8 posted 06/10/16 3:01pm

RJOrion

i think thats Prince...i dont see anywhere Fink gets creidt for that song...i checked Princevault and the lp notes, and it says all instruments played by Prince...no credits for MattFink

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Reply #9 posted 06/10/16 3:02pm

RJOrion

sheil e may have played some drums on it

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Reply #10 posted 06/10/16 3:04pm

PeteSilas

I think it's too classical sounding for it to be Prince, possible of course, but I think it's Fink.

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Reply #11 posted 06/10/16 3:45pm

TrivialPursuit

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mtlfan said:

Divine. Can anyone confirm if it's Fink or Prince? I always guessed Prince. If it's Fink - this, plus "Head," wow.


Fink co-wrote "Dirty Mind", not "Head". They were actually jamming, and Fink had come up with a keyboard hook. Fink went home. Prince stayed up all night, and wrote the song as you hear it now. Prince played it for him the next morning, and he was amazed at what Prince did with it. So, he got the co-writing credit.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #12 posted 06/10/16 3:48pm

SPYZFAN1

I always thought that ending was majestic. Very Beatlesque.

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Reply #13 posted 06/10/16 4:20pm

jdcxc

PeteSilas said:

Fink was the best keyboardist in Prince's circle, I believe it's him.



No way. Prince, Renato and Cassandra are better imho. I also prefer Morris Hayes.

And I can't believe Fink would join a Prince tribute band...tacky. Lol
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Reply #14 posted 06/10/16 4:36pm

GoldStandard

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TrivialPursuit said:

mtlfan said:

Divine. Can anyone confirm if it's Fink or Prince? I always guessed Prince. If it's Fink - this, plus "Head," wow.


Fink co-wrote "Dirty Mind", not "Head". They were actually jamming, and Fink had come up with a keyboard hook. Fink went home. Prince stayed up all night, and wrote the song as you hear it now. Prince played it for him the next morning, and he was amazed at what Prince did with it. So, he got the co-writing credit.

I always thought the triplet keyboard hook was a pretty simple-minded idea for a Prince song, but I enjoy it just the same. This makes perfect sense. Prince definitely deserves the credit if that is the case, because there would be 1000 songs written by amateur bands with a similar keyboard hook but a much worse final song.

Fink certainly helped Prince create great music, and he deserves respect for that, but I just don't think we should be saying "It's a Fink song".

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Reply #15 posted 06/10/16 4:52pm

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sounds like two happy people squabbling over a Fairlight. As in maybe it was a Fink solo and a Prince solo on a track each and then mixed together at the same time? Was Fink even on the Lovesexy sessions?

[Edited 6/10/16 17:06pm]

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Reply #16 posted 06/10/16 6:22pm

PeteSilas

jdcxc said:

PeteSilas said:

Fink was the best keyboardist in Prince's circle, I believe it's him.

No way. Prince, Renato and Cassandra are better imho. I also prefer Morris Hayes. And I can't believe Fink would join a Prince tribute band...tacky. Lol

I meant that era, the 80's, but yes, he had many great keyboardists and musicians around him. I saw one last night, Mark Cardenas from the Time, he's a solid pro. I still think Fink was the best in that era, did he do the solos from When Doves Cry too?

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Reply #17 posted 06/10/16 7:05pm

TrivialPursuit

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GoldStandard said:

I always thought the triplet keyboard hook was a pretty simple-minded idea for a Prince song, but I enjoy it just the same. This makes perfect sense. Prince definitely deserves the credit if that is the case, because there would be 1000 songs written by amateur bands with a similar keyboard hook but a much worse final song.

Fink certainly helped Prince create great music, and he deserves respect for that, but I just don't think we should be saying "It's a Fink song".


Yeah, I never said that - and actually I've never heard that either. I do agree it sounds like a teenager kind of fumbling around with triplets or something. Perhaps it's what Mozart sounded like tinkering around on a harpsicord as a lad. haha

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #18 posted 06/10/16 9:31pm

PeteSilas

TrivialPursuit said:

GoldStandard said:

I always thought the triplet keyboard hook was a pretty simple-minded idea for a Prince song, but I enjoy it just the same. This makes perfect sense. Prince definitely deserves the credit if that is the case, because there would be 1000 songs written by amateur bands with a similar keyboard hook but a much worse final song.

Fink certainly helped Prince create great music, and he deserves respect for that, but I just don't think we should be saying "It's a Fink song".


Yeah, I never said that - and actually I've never heard that either. I do agree it sounds like a teenager kind of fumbling around with triplets or something. Perhaps it's what Mozart sounded like tinkering around on a harpsicord as a lad. haha

are we talking about the same piece of music? I thought it was great, dramatic, flashy more like what fink did. Prince usually played different types of modes and scales.

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Reply #19 posted 06/10/16 11:24pm

twistedeargasm

Sounds like Prince. I'm almost Positive that it's the Roland d-50 keyboard. That board has that crazy phat string patch. Also the playing, sounds like Prince's riffs from other songs. I've heard it in " Girl" and a song off the Raimbow children album as well as others that I can't recall. P was/and will ever be a badddd dude!!
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Reply #20 posted 06/10/16 11:30pm

Moonbeam

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I always wondered whether that was an unnamed segue, part of "Glam Slam", or part of "Anna Stesia". The consensus seems to be that it is part of "Glam Slam".

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Reply #21 posted 06/10/16 11:33pm

PeteSilas

Moonbeam said:

I always wondered whether that was an unnamed segue, part of "Glam Slam", or part of "Anna Stesia". The consensus seems to be that it is part of "Glam Slam".

i think i was cheated out of that segue on the last online purchase i made of the album.

I really don't think it's Prince guys, Prince usually had more of a bluesy, funk or jazz feel, not classical. I still didn't get an answer of who played the WDC solos, those were amongst some of his best work but they certainly are not pentatonic scales.

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Reply #22 posted 06/11/16 1:37am

paulludvig

PeteSilas said:

Moonbeam said:

I always wondered whether that was an unnamed segue, part of "Glam Slam", or part of "Anna Stesia". The consensus seems to be that it is part of "Glam Slam".

i think i was cheated out of that segue on the last online purchase i made of the album.

I really don't think it's Prince guys, Prince usually had more of a bluesy, funk or jazz feel, not classical. I still didn't get an answer of who played the WDC solos, those were amongst some of his best work but they certainly are not pentatonic scales.

Prince played the WDC solos on the studio version. This has been confirmed by Fink himself. Pretty sure he plays on Glam Slam as well.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #23 posted 06/11/16 1:59am

PeteSilas

paulludvig said:

PeteSilas said:

i think i was cheated out of that segue on the last online purchase i made of the album.

I really don't think it's Prince guys, Prince usually had more of a bluesy, funk or jazz feel, not classical. I still didn't get an answer of who played the WDC solos, those were amongst some of his best work but they certainly are not pentatonic scales.

Prince played the WDC solos on the studio version. This has been confirmed by Fink himself. Pretty sure he plays on Glam Slam as well.

ok, i believe you, i just wish we had confirmation, the glam slam thing sounds too classical, Prince dabbled very little in classical music. I know that Lisa had a classical background and I wouldn't doubt Fink did too. it's pretty common amongst pianists.

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Reply #24 posted 06/11/16 2:25am

paulludvig

PeteSilas said:

paulludvig said:

Prince played the WDC solos on the studio version. This has been confirmed by Fink himself. Pretty sure he plays on Glam Slam as well.

ok, i believe you, i just wish we had confirmation, the glam slam thing sounds too classical, Prince dabbled very little in classical music. I know that Lisa had a classical background and I wouldn't doubt Fink did too. it's pretty common amongst pianists.

Lisa didn't really have a classical background, but she probably had piano lessons were she learned some standards from the classical repertoire. Fink probably did too.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #25 posted 06/11/16 3:45am

PeteSilas

paulludvig said:

PeteSilas said:

ok, i believe you, i just wish we had confirmation, the glam slam thing sounds too classical, Prince dabbled very little in classical music. I know that Lisa had a classical background and I wouldn't doubt Fink did too. it's pretty common amongst pianists.

Lisa didn't really have a classical background, but she probably had piano lessons were she learned some standards from the classical repertoire. Fink probably did too.

you must be a classical purist, anyway, i don't know. I do know that Prince loved her Mozart when he first met her.

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Reply #26 posted 06/11/16 4:13am

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thisisreece said:

Halle-fucking-lujah! (or Hundalasilhah!) How great is that ending? And how it falls into Annastesia like a transition to one of the darker sequences from Fantasia or something. As a whole, Lovesexy isn't one of my favourite Prince albums, but listening to moments like that, and songs like Annastesia, I Wish U Heaven, and Positivity and I could be convinced it's the best album he ever did.

Anyone else love it?



After SOTT it took some listening for a few times before it grew on me. I already heard Alphabet St because it preceeded the album so I expected something else actually. Turns out to be one of his masterpieces and after being at the Lovesexy shows for a couple of times I was hooked. Turned out Alphabet St was imo even one of the lesser tracks on the album.
It's a concept album so one should listen to it entirely to get a good grasp of the album and when it was issued as a cd it was taken care of by putting the seperate tracks (which aren't so separate) as one longtrack onto the disc.
Long story short: a great album!
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Reply #27 posted 06/11/16 5:39am

thisisreece

PeteSilas said:

jdcxc said:

PeteSilas said: No way. Prince, Renato and Cassandra are better imho. I also prefer Morris Hayes. And I can't believe Fink would join a Prince tribute band...tacky. Lol

I meant that era, the 80's, but yes, he had many great keyboardists and musicians around him. I saw one last night, Mark Cardenas from the Time, he's a solid pro. I still think Fink was the best in that era, did he do the solos from When Doves Cry too?

WDC is Prince. I'm like 99% sure this is Prince too (not that I'm a go-to authority on these things).

Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #28 posted 06/11/16 5:48am

Guitarhero

So we don't know if it was Fink or Prince lol But we do know it's fab.

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Reply #29 posted 06/11/16 7:48am

jdcxc

It's Prince. We would've heard whether it's Fink by now.
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