Reply #60 posted 06/07/16 7:00pm
MadamGoodnight Two |
mimi1956 said:
FUNKNROLL said:
jumanji2016 said: Sometimes the real point of a request is a test. But yeah, some people just don't know how to part ways without picking a fight. Especially if they have abandonment issues. Why would things end, unless there was some sort of drama?
Abandonment issues, geez he was thrown out of his fathers house at 13 and sat crying on the pay phone cause he wasn't allowed to go home. He was a BABY and abandoned. That probably killed a part of his sensitivity chip. And that show on Reelz said his stepfather locked him in his room for 6 weeks one summer, only allowed him out to eat and shower. His family really fu.... with his head
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This is so incredibly sad. Hard to read. Poor Prince. He had been through so much. Rest In Peace. He's in the Big White Mansion. RIP Prince |
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Reply #61 posted 06/07/16 8:38pm
mechanicalemot ion17 |
spastic78 said: benni said:
Krystalkisses said:
benni said:
I disagree, as someone who was neglected and abused as a child. I have a difficult time trusting others and allowing them in, but I am also a social worker and have to be able to relate to people in all walks of life and have healthy communication with them. I think with Prince, he knew what he liked and what he didn't like, and was just very forward in what he thought and wanted. I think it was more of a sense that he didn't believe in wasting their time if they were not going to work well with him and his music, so was very blunt when it was over. To add to this, I think his control issues come into play with this. He was very controlling of his music and those that worked with him, feeling that he always knew best how it should sound, and if someone was not going to work up to his standards, he cut them lose and didn't hold back with it.
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That may be true. However, control issues could be a symptom of previous childhood trauma. I'm not sure of the extent of what Prince went through as a child but neglect can rewire a child's brain that has ramifications as an adult.
But yes he was a musical genius so who knows so I'm sure there were a lot of people he worked with that just were not up to his standards.
And yes, control issues are sometimes at the very heart of what a survivor of childhood trauma deals with. They felt they had no control over their life when they younger, so that when they grow up, they have to maintain some kind of control and keep a tight grip on that control. I am someone that has to have a very tight control on my emotions. If I lose control of my emotions, I feel very vulnerable and lost. And yes, neglect can rewire our brain, as does abuse of any kind when we're children. Often times our emotional and mental development is stunted at the age in which the abuse occurs. It definitely has had ramifications in my personal relationships, but with friends and associates, co-workers, I tend to deal much more effectively with those type of relationships. Endings are not always easy on me, especially because of my abandonment issues, but I tend to internalize those.
Control issues are also quite common in people who live/d with a seizure disorder/epilepsy. Prince had epilepsy as a child. And then add maternal abandonment? My poor Prince. Music was his expression and love. What maternal abandonment? It was Prince who moved out of his mother's house to go live with André from the story Cymone tells. I mean, yeah...he did have a stepfather from what I understand and they may have had issues, but what adolescent or teen guy doesn't grow up wanting to enforce a slow and painful death on his stepfather if he is 'lucky' enough to be raised by one? |
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Reply #62 posted 06/08/16 2:24am
hw3004 |
FunkiestOne said:
It sounds like this guy did something that P didn't like when he recorded one of his songs. That is like molesting one of Prince's children...
...in an internet full of ridulous and offensive comparisons, this stands out as a particular doozy! Well done sir for a complete lack of perspective! |
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Reply #63 posted 06/08/16 2:35am
Bunsterdk |
mimi1956 said:
Abandonment issues, geez he was thrown out of his fathers house at 13 and sat crying on the pay phone cause he wasn't allowed to go home. He was a BABY and abandoned. That probably killed a part of his sensitivity chip. And that show on Reelz said his stepfather locked him in his room for 6 weeks one summer, only allowed him out to eat and shower. His family really fu.... with his head [Edited 6/7/16 18:16pm]
Oh no.. That is so sad. Poor little guy. A lot of things make perfect sense when knowing his background. Unfortunately I can relate all too well and it just messes you up for good. He did so well working to better himself and coming so far personally. That is one reason he was so very special to many, I think. The personal journey he shared with us through his music. I'm sure we don't even know half of it. Poor child. |
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Reply #64 posted 06/08/16 2:52am
CROWNS1 |
mechanicalemotion17 said:
spastic78 said:
Control issues are also quite common in people who live/d with a seizure disorder/epilepsy. Prince had epilepsy as a child. And then add maternal abandonment? My poor Prince. Music was his expression and love.
What maternal abandonment? It was Prince who moved out of his mother's house to go live with André from the story Cymone tells. I mean, yeah...he did have a stepfather from what I understand and they may have had issues, but what adolescent or teen guy doesn't grow up wanting to enforce a slow and painful death on his stepfather if he is 'lucky' enough to be raised by one?
He was 12 years old. 12 year old children don't just 'move out' and have their parents ok to let them bounce from house to house being someone else's responsibilty to feed and clothe and whatever else it takes to raise a 12 year old child. Whether he was kicked out or 'ran away', it doesn't appear that his parents really cared where he was or what he was doing....until he got famous that is. |
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Reply #65 posted 06/08/16 5:37am
CNickyD |
Blakbear said:
CNickyD said:
There's a YouTube video of a guy that worked a low-level position at Paisley Park. He tells this story of how he was about to pass Prince in the hallway, and instead of doing something normal like saying "Hi", Prince eyes darted about and he immediately SPRINTED down the stairs to get away from him. So yeah, I'd say he was socially awkward! LOL
Is that the same guy who described how one day Prince had on the white lace outfit with no underwear?
Because if it is, man, I couldn't unsee that for hours, and I couldn't stop giggling like a maniac.
Like, whoa, son, that's more information than I needed, but thanks so much for sharing!
Yep, same guy! I loved the "no underwear" story. Settled a question I've had for years!! No-one else could understand you, you're too complex. They say nothing's perfect, but they don't know you... |
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Reply #66 posted 06/08/16 6:04am
destinyc1 |
CNickyD said:
Blakbear said:
Is that the same guy who described how one day Prince had on the white lace outfit with no underwear?
Because if it is, man, I couldn't unsee that for hours, and I couldn't stop giggling like a maniac.
Like, whoa, son, that's more information than I needed, but thanks so much for sharing!
Yep, same guy! I loved the "no underwear" story. Settled a question I've had for years!!
When he passed away he was wearing underwear.....Does anyone know if prince's step dad passed away |
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Reply #67 posted 06/08/16 8:05am
XxAxX |
destinyc1 said:
CNickyD said:
Yep, same guy! I loved the "no underwear" story. Settled a question I've had for years!!
When he passed away he was wearing underwear.....Does anyone know if prince's step dad passed away
we know this? how???? okay, as a fan, right now i feel more than a bit socially awkward |
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Reply #68 posted 06/08/16 8:07am
XxAxX |
i wonder where the OP is? a flaming thread, an intriguing topic and .... ? |
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Reply #69 posted 06/08/16 8:19am
sunset3121 |
XxAxX said:
destinyc1 said:
When he passed away he was wearing underwear.....Does anyone know if prince's step dad passed away
we know this? how???? okay, as a fan, right now i feel more than a bit socially awkward
Known from the autopsy report list of clothing.
"He was 12 years old. 12 year old children don't just 'move out' and have their parents ok to let them bounce from house to house being someone else's responsibilty to feed and clothe and whatever else it takes to raise a 12 year old child. Whether he was kicked out or 'ran away', it doesn't appear that his parents really cared where he was or what he was doing....until he got famous that is."
I would have moved out if I had been locked inside all summer too (in fact for much less than that - I was quite temperamental at that age - but my parents wouldn't let me leave when I tried and backed down on their demands to calm the situation. I am glad they did as I was willful enough to leave but scared of being on my own at that age.) But after he moved out of his mum's his dad then kicked him out too. He then felt kicked out by his sister. He needed a bit of unconditional love from his family. [Edited 6/8/16 8:22am] |
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Reply #70 posted 06/08/16 8:52am
XxAxX |
sunset3121 said:
XxAxX said:
we know this? how???? okay, as a fan, right now i feel more than a bit socially awkward
Known from the autopsy report list of clothing.
"He was 12 years old. 12 year old children don't just 'move out' and have their parents ok to let them bounce from house to house being someone else's responsibilty to feed and clothe and whatever else it takes to raise a 12 year old child. Whether he was kicked out or 'ran away', it doesn't appear that his parents really cared where he was or what he was doing....until he got famous that is."
I would have moved out if I had been locked inside all summer too (in fact for much less than that - I was quite temperamental at that age - but my parents wouldn't let me leave when I tried and backed down on their demands to calm the situation. I am glad they did as I was willful enough to leave but scared of being on my own at that age.) But after he moved out of his mum's his dad then kicked him out too. He then felt kicked out by his sister. He needed a bit of unconditional love from his family.
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i feel you. prince seems to have been severely traumatised in early childhood. |
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Reply #71 posted 06/08/16 9:14am
isobelfq |
laurarichardson said:
xpertluva said:
Abandonment issues is one thing, but your zodiac should never be an excuse or even a reason to treat people like crap. And if you have abandonment issues, you have to work on that if you expect others to respect you. That's a part of being an adult, celebrity or not.
--- Do you have a background in psychology? Abuse and abandonment from your parents will ruin you due to trust issues. You how to trust from your parents and if it is not there you are going to problem.
I've been in therapy for years and I still have trust issues. They're better than they are before but all it takes is one time and I'm instantly transformed back to that little girl. Join me under the waterfall
Climb the rainbow tree
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Reply #72 posted 06/08/16 11:40am
CNickyD |
destinyc1 said:
CNickyD said:
Yep, same guy! I loved the "no underwear" story. Settled a question I've had for years!!
When he passed away he was wearing underwear.....Does anyone know if prince's step dad passed away
That's not the question I had! No-one else could understand you, you're too complex. They say nothing's perfect, but they don't know you... |
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Reply #73 posted 06/09/16 9:35am
isobelfq |
CNickyD said:
There's a YouTube video of a guy that worked a low-level position at Paisley Park. He tells this story of how he was about to pass Prince in the hallway, and instead of doing something normal like saying "Hi", Prince eyes darted about and he immediately SPRINTED down the stairs to get away from him. So yeah, I'd say he was socially awkward! LOL
That sounds like something I would do. I'm socially awkward as FUCK! Join me under the waterfall
Climb the rainbow tree
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Reply #74 posted 06/09/16 9:35am
isobelfq |
tmo1965 said:
Krystalkisses said:
I agree. It is actually very common with people who have been neglected or abused as children to not know how to relate to people very well and have healthy communication with others.
Like when he kicked Kim Kardashian off the stage.
No, that was just necessary.
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Reply #75 posted 06/09/16 12:51pm
mimi1956 |
isobelfq said:
laurarichardson said:
xpertluva said: --- Do you have a background in psychology? Abuse and abandonment from your parents will ruin you due to trust issues. You how to trust from your parents and if it is not there you are going to problem.
I've been in therapy for years and I still have trust issues. They're better than they are before but all it takes is one time and I'm instantly transformed back to that little girl.
Same here, you're bullied by others called names by not only kids but your friends father because he doesn't think your as good as his daughter... Growing up in the 60's like Prince did, there were'nt any laws back then to protect you and parents never stood up or got involved I don't think. And if it was the parents forget it. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. |
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Reply #76 posted 06/09/16 2:24pm
mimi1956 |
XxAxX said:
destinyc1 said:
When he passed away he was wearing underwear.....Does anyone know if prince's step dad passed away
we know this? how???? okay, as a fan, right now i feel more than a bit socially awkward
I'm still trying to find that on Youtube, do you have the link. All I can find is Kevin Smith talking.
admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. |
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Reply #77 posted 06/09/16 2:28pm
XxAxX |
mimi1956 said:
XxAxX said:
we know this? how???? okay, as a fan, right now i feel more than a bit socially awkward
I'm still trying to find that on Youtube, do you have the link. All I can find is Kevin Smith talking.
what are you talking about? what link on YouTube? |
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Reply #78 posted 06/09/16 4:15pm
mimi1956 |
XxAxX said:
mimi1956 said:
I'm still trying to find that on Youtube, do you have the link. All I can find is Kevin Smith talking.
what are you talking about? what link on YouTube?
The man that talked about twhen he was working at PP and Prince was coming down thw hallway and saw him and turned and ran instead of talking. I sort of know the feeling, I rather not talk, I'm just not a good conversationalist and if I can avoid talking to people I do. I don't mind writing though, that's ok cause it's not face to face. I'm not shy online. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. |
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Reply #79 posted 06/09/16 5:08pm
jumanji2016 |
It seems that the majority of the awkward encounter stories that I hear regarding Prince involve men---like he didn't know how to relate to them on an interpersonal level, didn't like them, or was mentally-abused by one (I'm sure his father.) Most women say that he seemed very comfortable around them or made them feel very comfortable. The interviews where he is the least guarded involve women-Oprah, Mel B., Robyne Robinson. Hence, how he became such a ladies' man. |
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Reply #80 posted 06/09/16 5:30pm
mimi1956 |
jumanji2016 said:
It seems that the majority of the awkward encounter stories that I hear regarding Prince involve men---like he didn't know how to relate to them on an interpersonal level, didn't like them, or was mentally-abused by one (I'm sure his father.) Most women say that he seemed very comfortable around them or made them feel very comfortable. The interviews where he is the least guarded involve women-Oprah, Mel B., Robyne Robinson. Hence, how he became such a ladies' man.
His step father was not good to him either I heard. In interviews he seemed to get along great with Ellen also and believe it or not I saw a Rosie O'Donnell interview and were having fun. But the interviews I've seen with most men was a little like pulling teeth. Maybe he didn't feel like he was in competion with women, not having to be a bigger size and worrying about whether the were judging him on his height. Heck most ment could never compete with him, he was always a bigger man, larger than life. Just don't think he got that in his head. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. |
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Reply #81 posted 06/09/16 5:47pm
wavesofbliss |
he seemed cool with jay leno and arsenio hall. those are the only 2 men i have ever seen him interview with. but howard bloom's psych assessment of him is very telling and seems dead on. i haven't heard bloom comment on p's death though. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND |
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Reply #82 posted 06/09/16 5:53pm
XxAxX |
mimi1956 said:
XxAxX said:
what are you talking about? what link on YouTube?
The man that talked about twhen he was working at PP and Prince was coming down thw hallway and saw him and turned and ran instead of talking. I sort of know the feeling, I rather not talk, I'm just not a good conversationalist and if I can avoid talking to people I do. I don't mind writing though, that's ok cause it's not face to face. I'm not shy online.
oh okay. it was a misunderstanding, i was referring to how us fans know what prince was wearing when he .. passed on. (still hard to type those words.) |
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Reply #83 posted 06/09/16 6:04pm
Blakbear |
mimi1956 said:
jumanji2016 said:
It seems that the majority of the awkward encounter stories that I hear regarding Prince involve men---like he didn't know how to relate to them on an interpersonal level, didn't like them, or was mentally-abused by one (I'm sure his father.) Most women say that he seemed very comfortable around them or made them feel very comfortable. The interviews where he is the least guarded involve women-Oprah, Mel B., Robyne Robinson. Hence, how he became such a ladies' man.
His step father was not good to him either I heard. In interviews he seemed to get along great with Ellen also and believe it or not I saw a Rosie O'Donnell interview and were having fun. But the interviews I've seen with most men was a little like pulling teeth. Maybe he didn't feel like he was in competion with women, not having to be a bigger size and worrying about whether the were judging him on his height. Heck most ment could never compete with him, he was always a bigger man, larger than life. Just don't think he got that in his head.
I think he got along with George Lopez and Tavis Smiley pretty well, too!
Honestly, I think there was a bit of... discomfort with his rather ladylike presentation going on with a lot of men that made them really uncomfortable. I mean, wtf do you do with someone like him? He's this tiny, delicate little doll of a man (obviously, he was a pretty strong dude, just looking at his body. But still, he was teenage girl-sized!) who read as ladylike. REALLY ladylike. |
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Reply #84 posted 06/09/16 6:07pm
jumanji2016 |
wavesofbliss said: he seemed cool with jay leno and arsenio hall. those are the only 2 men i have ever seen him interview with. but howard bloom's psych assessment of him is very telling and seems dead on. i haven't heard bloom comment on p's death though. He definitely seemed cool with men that he considered friends, but stranger men seemed to be different story. Whereas, with women---both familiar and unfamiliar had him beaming and bashful. You have a link to the Howard Bloom thing? I'm interested. This is my first time hearing of it. |
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Reply #85 posted 06/09/16 6:14pm
koortl |
Blakbear said:
MadamGoodnightTwo said:
Blakbear said:
Is that the same guy who described how one day Prince had on the white lace outfit with no underwear?
Because if it is, man, I couldn't unsee that for hours, and I couldn't stop giggling like a maniac.
Like, whoa, son, that's more information than I needed, but thanks so much for sharing!
I saw that video too, Hilarious.
I swear he spent all the minutes on that, and went out of his way to reassure everyone as to... everything about it. I wondered if he got out a tape measure at one point... |
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Reply #86 posted 06/09/16 6:52pm
Blakbear |
koortl said:
Blakbear said:
I swear he spent all the minutes on that, and went out of his way to reassure everyone as to... everything about it. I wondered if he got out a tape measure at one point...
Hahaha YES. Dudebro was fascinated by the light. He described how he couldn't stop staring.
He apparently forgot about --
You know what, I'm not even gonna start joking about this. |
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Reply #87 posted 06/09/16 7:10pm
koortl |
XxAxX said:
mimi1956 said:
XxAxX said:
we know this? how???? okay, as a fan, right now i feel more than a bit socially awkward
I'm still trying to find that on Youtube, do you have the link. All I can find is Kevin Smith talking.
what are you talking about? what link on YouTube?
His name is Marc Doty
https://youtu.be/br1Q0-U5NSo[Edited 6/9/16 19:13pm] |
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Reply #88 posted 06/09/16 7:20pm
mimi1956 |
koortl said:
Blakbear said:
I swear he spent all the minutes on that, and went out of his way to reassure everyone as to... everything about it. I wondered if he got out a tape measure at one point...
THis is the one I'm trying to find and I can't, I need a pick me up. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. |
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Reply #89 posted 06/09/16 7:24pm
mimi1956 |
koortl said:
XxAxX said:
what are you talking about? what link on YouTube?
His name is Marc Doty https://youtu.be/br1Q0-U5NSo [Edited 6/9/16 19:13pm]
Thank you. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. |
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