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Reply #90 posted 06/04/16 6:07am

vladimir

It didn't even get a cinematic release in Australia, even though there had been posters in the cinemas for it saying "coming soon". I still haven't seen it.

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Reply #91 posted 06/04/16 6:23am

terrywastecake

I think it would be fun if it was shown with overblown colours. Psychedelic, like the sgt peppers cover.

Looking at the stills of the colour version it looks almost like the intention.

Its a tongue in cheek film, therefore I reckon that psychedelic trippy look would fit it perfectly.

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Reply #92 posted 06/04/16 6:41am

SoulAlive

This movie was shot on some beautiful locations,as you can see in this pic.I think it would have worked so much better in color!

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Reply #93 posted 06/04/16 6:47am

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SoulAlive said:

This movie was shot on some beautiful locations,as you can see in this pic.I think it would have worked so much better in color!


I think some folks just want to defend Prince's decisions so much that they are blinded from what otherwise would be obvious.

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Reply #94 posted 06/04/16 9:43am

Adore27

Although color would be cool, I still really like the black and white version.

Also, for those that haven't seen his movies, BET/VH1 are playing Purple Rain, Cherry Moon, and Graffiti Bridge this week in honor of his birthday on June 7. Although I've seen them all, I'm sure I'll watch again!

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Reply #95 posted 06/04/16 9:59am

jaypotton

Cloreen said:



Wlcm2thdwn3 said:


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It was Prince's desire to be original and give it the ' look of the ' classic ' films. biggrin



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Correction: It was Prince's desire to be idiotic that led him to take color footage of one of the most glorious, beautiful places on Earth, and turn it into black and white.


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Why go to the gorgeous French Riviera for a film in black and white? Prince should have just gone to Trenton, New Jersey. Prince was no cinematic brain surgeon, we all can agree on that.



That is actually a pretty spurious point of view. Some of cinemas absolute classics were shot in black and white using amazing locations. While the merits of the film generally are debatable the photography is beautiful...but that is thanks to Michael Ballhaus the cinematographer (who worked a lot with Scorsese) rather than Prince.

However, it would be cool to see this in colour too!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #96 posted 06/04/16 9:59am

luvsexy4all

same person who has grafitti bridge 2 1/2 version has color UTCM with outtakes

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Reply #97 posted 06/04/16 10:05am

RiotPaisley

Cloreen said:



RiotPaisley said:





Oh shush. You are zero fun. It's a campy movie.

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So you believe that Prince's goal was to make a campy movie? That's what he wanted?


And what was his goal for GRAFFITI BRIDGE? To make a shitty movie? That's he wanted?


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Boy, the guy really is a genius filmmaker. He achieves what he sets out to do.





No I believe he got an opportunity to do something he wanted and he took it. I think if he had kept making films he would have gotten progressively better.

I really enjoyed this movie. It was fun- could have done without the ending, but I really liked it. It's a good story. I give mad props to people who just do it you know... He had the guts to try shit no one else was doing and I love he didn't give a crap what people thought in the end.
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #98 posted 06/04/16 10:12am

RiotPaisley

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A really high resolution version in vibrant colour would have a bit of a documentary feel by showing Prince in motion in what is more of a theatrical, Musical style production than Purple Rain. the colour along with resolution would give it a feeling of watching the guy in action because we all have the B&W version in the context being the fun / campy movie

anyone know what I mean ?



I feel you. I really want this in color. Ever since I saw the stills... I saw a still from the birthday party and felt it was like Paisley Park come to life and was sad I wasn't there when it went down. Truly a dream. I think it's why he was so happy then. He manifested his vision.

If I ever met anyone in charge of his estate I would BEG them to release this in color on BluRay...
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #99 posted 06/04/16 10:16am

RiotPaisley

luvsexy4all said:

same person who has grafitti bridge 2 1/2 version has color UTCM with outtakes



Wait, what?

They need to put this out.
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #100 posted 06/04/16 10:52am

Cloreen

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maplesyrupnjam said:

a treatsie on the underlying problem of Rashomon not being shot in marvellous Technicolor,

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RASHOMON was shot in post-war Japan. You really think they had Technicolor three strip film stock, Technicolor cameras, and Technicolor processing facilities in that war ravaged nation? Hey, bud, they barely had drinkable water then.

But you want RASHOMON to look like GONE WITH THE WIND.

Wow, now I've heard everything.

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Reply #101 posted 06/04/16 11:20am

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RiotPaisley said:

luvsexy4all said:

same person who has grafitti bridge 2 1/2 version has color UTCM with outtakes

Wait, what? They need to put this out.

eek foodnow

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Reply #102 posted 06/04/16 1:15pm

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I'd buy another copy if they released it in color

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and I don't even own a computer with a DVD drive or a DVD/BluRay player so I have to go watch it at someone else's place lol

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Reply #103 posted 06/04/16 1:20pm

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Would LOVE to see the entire movie in color! But I bet they wouldhave to go back to the negative and re-process a color version. It would take $$$.

But I bet Warners could do it if Prince fans raised the money to pay for the post production!

Kickstarter + agreement from Warners?

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Reply #104 posted 06/04/16 2:07pm

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mightycow said:

I'd buy another copy if they released it in color

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and I don't even own a computer with a DVD drive or a DVD/BluRay player so I have to go watch it at someone else's place lol

That have external drives now you can plug into your USB port. More money for devices that used to come with a computer... razz

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Reply #105 posted 06/04/16 4:18pm

Blakbear

Oh, my god, Cloreen! Also, the REST of you! Calm the heck down, will you? Let the people like the movie. They're not hurting you -- geebus, girl (or boy), get over yourself!

I don't see the point in bickering over this -- not everyone loved this movie, we get it, but why not leave others to love it because they do? Why do you need so badly to beat people down for liking something you think is trash? Here's a thought: bow out of the convo and do something else with your time.

Personally, I thought the movie was fun to watch -- I don't expect someone who is a musician first to be a great screenplay writer, since they're different disciplines.

It comes down to me asking you that infamous question: "Yeah? What are YOU doing?"

So people who have to insist on hating this movie? Let me see YOU write a great movie. And sell it. Go ahead, I'll wait.

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Reply #106 posted 06/04/16 5:20pm

maplesyrupnjam

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Cloreen said:

maplesyrupnjam said:

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RASHOMON was shot in post-war Japan. You really think they had Technicolor three strip film stock, Technicolor cameras, and Technicolor processing facilities in that war ravaged nation? Hey, bud, they barely had drinkable water then.

But you want RASHOMON to look like GONE WITH THE WIND.

Wow, now I've heard everything.

Point missed as per usual biggrin

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Reply #107 posted 06/04/16 7:34pm

Cloreen

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Blakbear said:

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It comes down to me asking you that infamous question: "Yeah? What are YOU doing?"

Let me see YOU write a great movie. And sell it. Go ahead, I'll wait.

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Dude, this is the point: I am doing fine with what I do. And I am level-headed enough to realize that because I do that well doesn't mean I can direct a feature length film!

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Just because Prince can program a LINN Drum Machine and play a mean guitar doesn't mean he can act and direct a film! Where in the hell did he ever get that notion?!? Man, check you ego at the door, Prince. You're a musician, that doesn't make you Alfred Hitchcock!

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Reply #108 posted 06/05/16 6:48am

Blakbear

Cloreen said:

Blakbear said:

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It comes down to me asking you that infamous question: "Yeah? What are YOU doing?"

Let me see YOU write a great movie. And sell it. Go ahead, I'll wait.

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Dude, this is the point: I am doing fine with what I do. And I am level-headed enough to realize that because I do that well doesn't mean I can direct a feature length film!

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Just because Prince can program a LINN Drum Machine and play a mean guitar doesn't mean he can act and direct a film! Where in the hell did he ever get that notion?!? Man, check you ego at the door, Prince. You're a musician, that doesn't make you Alfred Hitchcock!

WHat I don't get is why you're so upset about that. Jesu, child, how is that hurting you at all? So he tried and failed in your eyes. So. The. Hell. What. Check YOUR ego at the door, why don't you. Atleast he tried it, and you know what? Life's about trying things and having fun with it. You don't HAVE to do everything in life perfectly. Also, you DO realize that Prince wasn't initially good at any of the instruments he played, right? The man practiced his ass off to get good at them. Because, you know, that's how playing instruments work. Cloreen, you really need to take a chill pill and knock it off with this crappy attitude. It's annoying.

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Reply #109 posted 06/05/16 9:22am

Cloreen

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Blakbear said:

At least he tried it, and you know what? Life's about trying things and having fun with it.

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Michael Jordan tried baseball. Instead of giving us another incredible year of basketball, he tried baseball. You want to praise him for that?

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Instead of touring or putting together another killer record, Prince tried film directing. That was our loss. Less music from a master musician.

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Reply #110 posted 06/05/16 8:31pm

KingSausage

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Cloreen said:



Blakbear said:




At least he tried it, and you know what? Life's about trying things and having fun with it.




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Michael Jordan tried baseball. Instead of giving us another incredible year of basketball, he tried baseball. You want to praise him for that?


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Instead of touring or putting together another killer record, Prince tried film directing. That was our loss. Less music from a master musician.




Yeah, Prince is known for his severe lack of output at that time. rolleyes
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Reply #111 posted 06/05/16 9:40pm

scorp84

Cloreen said:

Blakbear said:

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Michael Jordan tried baseball. Instead of giving us another incredible year of basketball, he tried baseball. You want to praise him for that?

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Instead of touring or putting together another killer record, Prince tried film directing. That was our loss. Less music from a master musician.

Off-topic, MJ's desire to play baseball was a personal decision made during a very traumatic time in his life. His efforts, regardless of the results, were commendable. What followed that stint wouldn't have happened had he not retired, and this is coming from a huge Jordan/Bulls fan. He was burned out.

Back on topic. You do realize that P recorded 3-4 albums worth of material (of which would produce TWO killer records), toured Europe (after scrapping those plans for the Purple Rain tour) AND the states, AND filmed a movie during that 1 year period, right? lol

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Reply #112 posted 06/06/16 7:21am

Blakbear

Cloreen said:

Blakbear said:

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Michael Jordan tried baseball. Instead of giving us another incredible year of basketball, he tried baseball. You want to praise him for that?

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Instead of touring or putting together another killer record, Prince tried film directing. That was our loss. Less music from a master musician.

Actually, yes, I did applaud him for trying baseball. Because -- and here's the thing you obviously don't understand because you can't -- he was willing to try something new. He wasn't afraid to get out the box and do a new thing. Again, get your head out of your butt, girl, and get the heck over it. I'm done arguing with you. You're incapable of accepting the siple fact that people have the right to have broad interests and try them, whether they're great at them or not. Hopefully you grow up and learn about that sometime in your life.

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Reply #113 posted 06/06/16 7:47am

AnnaStesia91

KingSausage said:

Cloreen said:



Blakbear said:




At least he tried it, and you know what? Life's about trying things and having fun with it.




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Michael Jordan tried baseball. Instead of giving us another incredible year of basketball, he tried baseball. You want to praise him for that?


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Instead of touring or putting together another killer record, Prince tried film directing. That was our loss. Less music from a master musician.




Yeah, Prince is known for his severe lack of output at that time. rolleyes


EXACTLY
:lol:

The man worked CONSTANTLY between 84-86...Very few artists were that prolific.
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Reply #114 posted 06/06/16 8:21am

hw3004

Cloreen said:

Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

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It was Prince's desire to be original and give it the ' look of the ' classic ' films. biggrin

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Correction: It was Prince's desire to be idiotic that led him to take color footage of one of the most glorious, beautiful places on Earth, and turn it into black and white.

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Why go to the gorgeous French Riviera for a film in black and white? Prince should have just gone to Trenton, New Jersey. Prince was no cinematic brain surgeon, we all can agree on that.

...B&W can be beautiful too...Manhattan by Woody Allen springs to mind.

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Reply #115 posted 06/06/16 12:04pm

snakesineveryc
olor

Under the Cherry Moon is from the time before digital editing existed, so manufacturing a color print would basically require starting the editing process over again, unless the original print was made in color and then duplicated in black and white, which seems like it would have been counterproductive - why color correct a film you're planning to make monochromatic?

It is easy to suggest that UTCM's release in black and white robs it of the location shoot's full majesty, but the more problematic truth is that releasing it in black and white robs the film of being what it is. UTCM is a color film. Printing it in black and white doesn't change the fact that it was shot in color, that it was lit for color, and that its values are based upon color compositions.

Translating it to black and white robs the film of...well, black. And white. There are no real blacks in the final film. Everything is a sort of weird, off-kilter gray, even when it's supposed to be black. Color stock shot to be printed in color doesn't just become black and white when you print it that way. There's no question the film's look would be substantially stronger if it had been shot on B&W stock.

Making UTCM a black and white film wasn't necessarily a bad choice, but the compromise of shooting it in color first definitely weakened the released film's overall look.
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Reply #116 posted 06/06/16 12:16pm

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KingSausage said:

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Yeah, Prince is known for his severe lack of output at that time. rolleyes

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Simple question: would you rather have a film directed by Prince or a new album?

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He cheated us out of another album. And at that time Prince was at the top of his game. So instead of a masterpiece album, he gave us a film...a film that was, to be blunt, garbage.

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So again I ask: rather have a garbage film or a classic album?

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Reply #117 posted 06/06/16 12:25pm

Cloreen

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scorp84 said:

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1. Off-topic, MJ's desire to play baseball was a personal decision made during a very traumatic time in his life.

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2. Back on topic. You do realize that P recorded 3-4 albums worth of material (of which would produce TWO killer records), toured Europe (after scrapping those plans for the Purple Rain tour) AND the states, AND filmed a movie during that 1 year period, right? lol

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1. No, it was either A) an extremely idiotic decision, or B) something to do while being suspended for a year from the NBA due to gambling. B is the controversal view of Jordan playing baseball, but it actually is the only one that makes any sense. I don't believe A. I don't believe Jordan was that idiotic to walk away from basketball to play minor league baseball and look less than ordinary.

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2. And just think if he didn't waste time on that crap film we all could have had another masterpiece album in our collections between "Parade" and "Sign O' The Times." Go look at your Prince collection. If you keep it in chronological order you have "Parade" and then "Sign O' The Times." Man, wouldn't you love another fantastic album in between those? Well, because of that stupid film we don't have one in between those.

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Reply #118 posted 06/06/16 12:29pm

snakesineveryc
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Cloreen said:


He cheated us out of another album. And at that time Prince was at the top of his game. So instead of a masterpiece album, he gave us a film...a film that was, to be blunt, garbage.




It is at best specious to declare that the opportunity cost of doing that film specifically cost another full album, and worse to presume it would have been a masterpiece.

Prince might have used that time instead to bolster The Family, to focus on Madhouse, or to sharpen his racquetball skills.

Or, he may have simply gone down a different course and never made Sign O' the Times at all. And become a monk.

He made UTCM. It can be wished otherwise, but what he might have given the world instead is totally unknowable. Not liking one project doesn't automatically mean there was a better one that would have replaced it. This is why we accept Kamasutra's place in the pantheon.
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Reply #119 posted 06/06/16 12:41pm

TrivialPursuit

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Cloreen said:

Simple question: would you rather have a film directed by Prince or a new album?

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He cheated us out of another album. And at that time Prince was at the top of his game. So instead of a masterpiece album, he gave us a film...a film that was, to be blunt, garbage.

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So again I ask: rather have a garbage film or a classic album?


I'm only going to take a quick issue with the bolded above, real quick. Prince didn't, never did, and never will, owe anyone anything. It's a privilege to hear anyone's music, or experience anyone's art, especially that of a genius like Prince (or Pollack, or Dali, Coltrane, Miles, Picasso, DaVinci, et al).

It could be fair to say that Prince was sometimes frustrated, especially in the internet years, with the fan base's self-entitled stance when it came to his music. I believe it's why he pulled back on fan interaction occasionally, clamped down on photography at concerts, and limited his output at times. He sort of addressed that in "Pearls B4 The Swine".

Are we better off just fighting?
You on your side, me on mine
Are the words that eye keep writing
Only pearls B4 the swine?


What makes men claim that you're a friend
When you're not at all?
They knock you down and then
They lift you up again, just to see you fall


But like a bird I'll keep on singing
A song that never leaves your mind
If nothing else you've taught me one thing
Never cast your pearls B4 the swine

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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