Cloreen said:

SoulAlive said:

jayspud said:

KingSausage said:

SoulAlive said:

Perhaps,but the time period in the movie was clearly the 80s.There's no getting around that.

UTCM takes place at least after 1941. Here's the proof. When Tricky says "Cuz it's a full moon and I'm a werewolf, bitch!" he reveals that people in that world acknowledge a relationship between full moons and werewolves. That relationship wasn't established until Curt Siodmak wrote the screenplay for the 1941 hit The Wolf Man.

The ghetto blaster is also kind of a give away.

KingSausage said:

The color looks cheap and gaudy.

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The damn movie was cheap and gaudy! Come on, have you ever watched the movie? It ain't exactly a Bergman film.

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The movie was horrendous. Take Prince out of it would you have any interest at all in seeing a laughably simplistic story set in the French Riviera...and filmed in black and white! If you like the music from the film (I sure do) then just play the damn album! That film is a bad joke. Terrible. A deserved winner of The Razzie for worst film of the year.

JustErin said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Cloreen said:

Cloreen said:

KingSausage said:

The color looks cheap and gaudy.

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The damn movie was cheap and gaudy! Come on, have you ever watched the movie? It ain't exactly a Bergman film.

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The movie was horrendous. Take Prince out of it would you have any interest at all in seeing a laughably simplistic story set in the French Riviera...and filmed in black and white! If you like the music from the film (I sure do) then just play the damn album! That film is a bad joke. Terrible. A deserved winner of The Razzie for worst film of the year.

It's a tongue-in-cheek film and everything about it is tongue-in-cheek, including all the anachronisms and the B&W idea. And that's what makes it timeless.

CherryMoon57 said:

KingSausage said:

CherryMoon57 said:

The ghetto blaster is also kind of a give away.

True. But my theory is way more fun!

Of course it was, although I did wonder for a moment...

SoulAlive said:

sexton said:

The movie wasn't supposed to be reflective of the 80s. It was supposed to be in the style of a 1930s romantic comedy.

Perhaps,but the time period in the movie was clearly the 80s.There's no getting around that.

No perhaps about it, the intention was unquestionably to have the black and white cinematography reference old Hollywood and blur the more modern elements of the movie.

RiotPaisley said:

Can I just throw this out there... Prince's Parade album, looks like it say EVOLUTION down the side. The movie is about Christopher's long fought civil WAR: One two... The evolution WILL BE colorized!!!! Just sayin.

Wow.

Cloreen said:

I recently watched this (or, tried to) for the first time. Good God, it was awful. I knew, going into it, that it would be poor, but I didn't expect it to be on the level of Plan 9 From Outer Space.

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You could watch the color-print film, but it'd be like painting a turd with bright colors.

gollygirl said:

A re-release on blue ray in both colour and black and white would be cool. With some bonus footage maybe

I would like to see both. Then we could make real comparisons.

CherryMoon57 said:

RiotPaisley said:

Oh shush. You are zero fun. It's a campy movie.

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So you believe that Prince's goal was to make a campy movie? That's what he wanted?

And what was his goal for GRAFFITI BRIDGE? To make a shitty movie? That's he wanted?

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Boy, the guy really is a genius filmmaker. He achieves what he sets out to do.

Cloreen said:

RiotPaisley said:

Oh shush. You are zero fun. It's a campy movie.

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So you believe that Prince's goal was to make a campy movie? That's what he wanted?

And what was his goal for GRAFFITI BRIDGE? To make a shitty movie? That's he wanted?

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Boy, the guy really is a genius filmmaker. He achieves what he sets out to do.

Fuckin 'ell. Calm down ya loon. I'm of the opinion Under The Cherry Moon wasn't much cop, in fact it's pretty bad, but the music was glorious. Better than the skiffle garbage Presley was hawking back in the 50s anyway.

You're an expert on Kurosawa as well I see. Marvellous. We'll expect a treatsie on the underlying problem of Rashomon not being shot in marvellous Technicolor, and how it impinged and ultimately denigrated it's central theme on the vagaries of justice then.

You've so much to teach us all Cloreen.

I'd like to see it in color if such a version was added to a reissue of the B&W version. Out of curiousity.

A really high resolution version in vibrant colour would have a bit of a documentary feel by showing Prince in motion in what is more of a theatrical, Musical style production than Purple Rain. the colour along with resolution would give it a feeling of watching the guy in action because we all have the B&W version in the context being the fun / campy movie

anyone know what I mean ?

RiotPaisley said:

jayspud said:

Absolutely. I was surprised as I knew the film so well, I always wondered who made the cut. Usually it's cut for tv not the other way. It was rated 15 in the UK so it can include nudity.

Isn't the film pg13?

My copy is certainly a 15 rated and also here on the imdb, of course at the time in the UK we did not have a rating such at PG-13 and 12 rating wasn't introduced until 89 and 12A 94. Nowadays I don't know what it would be, ratings are more generous e.g. Olympus has Fallen was just a 15 and that had way mor violence and a torture scene.

eyewishuheaven said:

jayspud said:

Strange question but are there any outtakes or altered scenes. I say this as I watched the film on UK television about 10 or so years ago and the scene where Mary Sharon shows her 'Birthday Suit' Kristin was visibly topless and yet not on my video version. It always intrigued me as to who made that edit bearing in mind neither Prince nor Kristin seemed to have a problem with nudity at that time. I was a little shocked seeing the change on tv 😉 No, I did not stare 😊

Very interesting. I suspect the version you saw on UK tv was presented 'open-matte', so you were seeing visual information at the top and bottom of the screen that was never intended to be seen. There were VHS copies of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure that had the same problem; when Pee-Wee pulled his 'infinite bike chain' out of the compartment on his bicycle, you could clearly see that there was just a hole cut out of the bottom and the chain was being fed in through there. In film, the entire vertical image area recorded is never actually seen by the audience.

As for a colour version, I'm of two minds: I adore UTCM in b&w, and I'd really love to see a colour version. But I'm afraid to, because I worry that if I saw it, future viewings of the film in b&w might feel like they were 'missing something'!

I really appreciate your response on that, really interesting and that makes a whole lot of sense. I have had this question for over a decade and you have answered it for me! Thank you.

I also agree with you on that last point The B&W version may lose it's appeal to many.

I would love 2 C it in color, seeing all the color images from the movie are so tasty

But I love it in Black n White too

jayspud said:

eyewishuheaven said:

Very interesting. I suspect the version you saw on UK tv was presented 'open-matte', so you were seeing visual information at the top and bottom of the screen that was never intended to be seen. There were VHS copies of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure that had the same problem; when Pee-Wee pulled his 'infinite bike chain' out of the compartment on his bicycle, you could clearly see that there was just a hole cut out of the bottom and the chain was being fed in through there. In film, the entire vertical image area recorded is never actually seen by the audience.

As for a colour version, I'm of two minds: I adore UTCM in b&w, and I'd really love to see a colour version. But I'm afraid to, because I worry that if I saw it, future viewings of the film in b&w might feel like they were 'missing something'!

I really appreciate your response on that, really interesting and that makes a whole lot of sense. I have had this question for over a decade and you have answered it for me! Thank you.

I also agree with you on that last point The B&W version may lose it's appeal to many.

If a color version comes out, I will never watch the black and white version again.

Warner bros should have demanded he do it in B& W ,he would have done it in colour then .

maplesyrupnjam said:

Under The Cherry Moon wasn't much cop, in fact it's pretty bad, but the music was glorious. Better than the skiffle garbage Presley was hawking back in the 50s anyway.

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The music is good in Under the Cherry Moon, but who cares? A movie isn't an album. If you're going to waste everyone's time and money making a movie, then it has to stand up as a movie. Under the Cherry Moon fails to work on any level as a film, and therefore it is a turkey. This is an objective fact, currently being added to Philosophy 101 classes in major Western universities.