1contessa said:

FUNKNROLL said:

Reading the ME report's policy at top - they will only disclose the exact manner and cause of death. Under MN law, other health details are never made public - for anybody.

So he may have been struggling with deep depression, sick with flu, cancer, or AIDS. But the exact precise medical cause of his death was self administered Fentanyl. We know how... but not why.

IMO, when people suffer from depression, flu, cancer, etc, they don't hide it, and have no problem revealing it to others, but I think that AIDS is a different story. As sad as it is, I'm afraid that there is still a stigma against having AIDS, which is surprising in the year 2016. Why would you still be trying to keep that a secret, especially if others could have been affected by it, it just makes no sense!

it's true, people on here were acting like Prince could not have been suffering from such a leperous disease, it just tells you how people still feel about it. Weird.

My sister works in a MN hospital and says she's never seen that prescribed. It is usually administered at the hospital, usually when someone is terminal. She said it is used for "conscious sedation" in hospitals. And a pain specialist would only prescribe that if the paitent was terminal...and even then, not likely.

Some one is probably going to go to jail on this one. Probably why that MN Dr was fired...

laurarichardson said:

terrig said:

I think this only tells you why he died. It doesnt matter what else was going on with his body. What killed him was the drug overdose.

I have ot go google what fentanyl is...I dont know anything about it....

--- If he had cancer it matters. I hope the family discloses this to a stop to media vultures.

I have to aree with you, and I think the same goes for if he had AIDS. Knowing so could have possibly helped others with the disease, any disease, not to mention, if he had partners or not. I would hate to think that he did, and didn't tell them, just because he was ashamed and wanted to keep it secret! Now, I'm not saying that he did, but this would be horrible to think about if he did. There are just so many unanswered questions! Why did they cremate his body so quickly, why did he not want to stay at the hospital after he was unresponsive, what was the cause of the low blood count, the weight loss, etc? Did he already know that he was terminal and intentionally overdose? How do we know it was accidental? I guess we don't.........still so many questions.

laurarichardson said:

terrig said:

I think this only tells you why he died. It doesnt matter what else was going on with his body. What killed him was the drug overdose.

I have ot go google what fentanyl is...I dont know anything about it....

--- If he had cancer it matters. I hope the family discloses this to a stop to media vultures.

If he had cancer, I'd think that his family and friends would have disclosed it weeks ago, as it would have been a sympathetic story that would have squashed most of the speculation about drug dependence/addiction.

The Star-Tribune article included this:

"Meanwhile, a joint state and federal criminal investigation into Prince’s death continues.

Carver County Chief Deputy Jason Kamerud said Thursday that he has “no idea what the time frame is” for completing that work.

He said the medical examiner’s report is just one “piece of the puzzle.’"

So this report isn't the final word -- there is still more official investigation, plus there are, I'm sure, hordes of journalists digging into everything about this for their own articles, books, etc.

1contessa said:

laurarichardson said:

terrig said: --- If he had cancer it matters. I hope the family discloses this to a stop to media vultures.

I have to aree with you, and I think the same goes for if he had AIDS. Knowing so could have possibly helped others with the disease, any disease, not to mention, if he had partners or not. I would hate to think that he did, and didn't tell them, just because he was ashamed and wanted to keep it secret! Now, I'm not saying that he did, but this would be horrible to think about if he did. There are just so many unanswered questions! Why did they cremate his body so quickly, why did he not want to stay at the hospital after he was unresponsive, what was the cause of the low blood count, the weight loss, etc? Did he already know that he was terminal and intentionally overdose? How do we know it was accidental? I guess we don't.........still so many questions.

To address a few of your questions, it is part of the JW practice to have a prompt burial or cremation... given his beliefs, the timing looks like it was just Tyka doing what she thought he'd have wanted.

As for staying in the hospital... if that hospitalization was for an opioid OD, then leaving the hospital against doctors' recommendations would be consistent with what 95+% of opioid OD patients do once they feel better from the save shot. In this case, he was in a random location in the middle of nowhere as well, so it's not surprising he'd have wanted to go home and get treated in private rather than in a public hospital setting.

Fentanyl patches are very strong when applied one patch can last days. They are controlled, counted and highly abused. I'm glad it was released and I'm so sorry that Prince was in pain for so long. His weight is truly sad and tells me maybe something else was going on too. I'm comforted that he is no longer in pain and I'll love him no matter what.

1contessa said:

---- Are people with AIDS traveling internationally, playing 2 -4 hour concerts, going to jazz shows and riding around on bikes? I am not saying it is not possible but you do realize are hard that is to believe? You also have disclose that you have Hiv or AIDS to your partners. How would he have kept that quiet.

Regardless of BMI 112 is thin.

laurarichardson said:

1contessa said:

IMO, when people suffer from depression, flu, cancer, etc, they don't hide it, and have no problem revealing it to others, but I think that AIDS is a different story. As sad as it is, I'm afraid that there is still a stigma against having AIDS, which is surprising in the year 2016. Why would you still be trying to keep that a secret, especially if others could have been affected by it, it just makes no sense!

---- Are people with AIDS traveling internationally, playing 2 -4 hour concerts, going to jazz shows and riding around on bikes? I am not saying it is not possible but you do realize are hard that is to believe? You also have disclose that you have Hiv or AIDS to your partners. How would he have kept that quiet.

Prince was a superman, Duke Ellington played live when he should have been in a hospital waiting for death. those guys aren't like us.

laurarichardson said:

isn't it also required to notify any past lovers if a patient/deceased had hiv/aids?

1contessa said:

Did you know David Bowie had cancer before he died?

some will not be satisfied until they find out he had cancer/hiv/aids or some other serious illness. severe hip pain leading to dependency just isn't enough to satisfy them.

Letsgetcrazy1 said:

OMG! This opens the wound that has not healed in our hearts again. I am so saddened. How devastating for all of us fans to read this. It kind of puts a finality to his earthly being. We know his soul is in Heaven with his son Amir. He finally has peace in his heart. Rest in peace my sweet Prince.

ksl1974 said:

The fentanyl patch is more likely to
To be cut open and chewed up by someone with
An addiction or tolerance to opiates .
The patch is time release eating the
Gel inside the patch is the dangerous
Part ... It hits you all at once .

destinyc1 said:

jillybean said:

Is this real? He weighed 112 lbs. Oh, this is heartbreaking all over again.

YES...And many of us on here kept saying he looked bad and thin.

I noted the difference between when I saw Prince in person in 2014 three feet from the stage and those last pictures at his final concert were like day and night...

lameless said:

I think this is probably spot on .

jesme1999 said:

true...highly abused

I think he was by himself and applied more than he was supposed to...I'm not gonna say he chewed them.

Interesting it says 'death at work - No' when Paisley Park was his place of work for the last 28 years, I guess its more about industrial accidents - Health & Safety, I was happier he died at Paisley Park, where he chose to spend his time recording and hanging out.

[Edited 6/2/16 14:22pm]

All this is not bringing him back unfortunately..

For me he just died of trying to find something to release him from his chronic pain.

Which makes him human after all..

See U in after life baby and THANK U 4 everything you've learned, showed & given me so far !

1contessa said:

FUNKNROLL said:

Reading the ME report's policy at top - they will only disclose the exact manner and cause of death. Under MN law, other health details are never made public - for anybody.

So he may have been struggling with deep depression, sick with flu, cancer, or AIDS. But the exact precise medical cause of his death was self administered Fentanyl. We know how... but not why.

IMO, when people suffer from depression, flu, cancer, etc, they don't hide it, and have no problem revealing it to others, but I think that AIDS is a different story. As sad as it is, I'm afraid that there is still a stigma against having AIDS, which is surprising in the year 2016. Why would you still be trying to keep that a secret, especially if others could have been affected by it, it just makes no sense!

im here to tell you.. that your opinion is wrong about that first statement. People suffer silently from depression and cancer ALL the time and don't say a damn word to a soul. Many who go on to commit suicide or die quietly and shock their friends or family believe that they dont want to burden others with their issues. So Prince could very well have had cancer and have taken fentanyl to help with the pain.. (i also work in healthcare in a clinical healthcare setting and fentanyl overdoses are common because it's such a STRONG drug)

so he had Percocet and Fentanyl? A 112 lb man? I need somebody license or some charges somewhere.

nursev said:

I think he was by himself and applied more than he was supposed to...I'm not gonna say he chewed them.

In this instance, you know way more about this sort of thing than most of us do...probably more than you want to know. I never heard of Fentanyl (spelling?) before today... All I know is that I was prescribed Percocet (which the tabloids claimed he was using) after major surgery and I took them for a few days, couldn't stand the side effects, and flushed them down the toilet.

nursev said:

It's not a like-for-comparison but an ex-girlfriend was 5'3" and weighed 112. She's slim, in good shape and has curves - in no way underweight.

purplethunder3121 said:

Fentanyl is a narcotic, it is controlled and counted by nurses due to it being highly abused. One patch is strong enough to last for days. I've only seen it prescribed for chronic pain, cancer, etc issues where a patient can't get proper pain relief from other medications. As a nurse there is no way in hell Im giving Fentanyl and Percocet together...recipe for disaster.

simm0061 said:

I know many people who go to pain management
And are prescribes Fentanyl patches plus
Pills
My 83 yr old ex mother in law is one of them .
Its used alot for severe chronic pain .

leecaldon said:

112 is cool if you have proper nutrition to go along with that and obviously Prince didn't.

jesme1999 said:

true a lot of clients have both, but I'm not administering them together.

laurarichardson said:

1contessa said:

IMO, when people suffer from depression, flu, cancer, etc, they don't hide it, and have no problem revealing it to others, but I think that AIDS is a different story. As sad as it is, I'm afraid that there is still a stigma against having AIDS, which is surprising in the year 2016. Why would you still be trying to keep that a secret, especially if others could have been affected by it, it just makes no sense!

---- Are people with AIDS traveling internationally, playing 2 -4 hour concerts, going to jazz shows and riding around on bikes? I am not saying it is not possible but you do realize are hard that is to believe? You also have disclose that you have Hiv or AIDS to your partners. How would he have kept that quiet.

Do you honestly think that everyone who has HIV or AIDS disclose it to their partners or people they just hook up with? That's very naive.