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Reply #60 posted 03/31/03 6:28pm

Handclapsfinga snapz	mistermaxxx said: MJ's Pop's was Abusive towards Him as well&If MJ let His Guard down He might very well echo the same Sentiments but never mind folks just don't get it. uhhh, like, wasn't we talkin about prince a second ago?
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Reply #61 posted 03/31/03 6:32pm

mistermaxxx

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mistermaxxx said:

MJ's Pop's was Abusive towards Him as well&If MJ let His Guard down He might very well echo the same Sentiments but never mind folks just don't get it.

uhhh, like, wasn't we talkin about prince a second ago? confuse

You are the Latest in My Arch Enemy Pile.I can see there is gonna be War here! Prince's Song reminded of MJ upon reflecting what He went through in His Up-bringing to make a Long story short.

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Reply #62 posted 03/31/03 6:36pm

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You are the Latest in My Arch Enemy Pile.I can see there is gonna be War here!

(bugs bunny voice) for honest and for true??? my goodness: nearly four years i've been here on the org and i've never been dubbed as one's arch-nemesis. i guess i'm movin up in the world, eh? woot!

but on the serious side--it's called a sarcastic remark, dahling. lighten up some, huh?? neutral

Prince's Song reminded of MJ upon reflecting what He went through in His Up-bringing to make a Long story short.

...eh, not quite.

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Reply #63 posted 03/31/03 6:48pm

MrBliss	mistermaxxx said: You are the Latest in My Arch Enemy Pile.I can see there is gonna be War here! Prince's Song reminded of MJ upon reflecting what He went through in His Up-bringing to make a Long story short. dude... who ARE you??? i mean c'mon...really
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Reply #64 posted 03/31/03 6:49pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

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"Climb in my fur."

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Reply #65 posted 03/31/03 6:59pm

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dodger said:

* Playing on sexuality, race, religion
* Explicit lyrics
* Bikini briefs and trench-coats
* Ejaculating guitar

That was all cool back then - but...

'incest is everything it's said to be'
what the fuck is that about? what the fuck is that shit about?

Can any of the wise old school (supernova, calhoun sq, rdhull, etc) offer an explaination or defence for 'sister'?

What the fuck are you thinking...since we are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of The Creator...I'm quite sure you've fucked a few of your sisters too!!

Now get over it already...the damn song is over 20 years old...if you couldn't understand in all that time...you won't get it now...so just let it go!

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Reply #66 posted 03/31/03 7:02pm

Anji	The song is actually about his brother.
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Reply #67 posted 03/31/03 7:05pm

Handclapsfinga snapz	DeVaniti said: Now get over it already...the damn song is over 20 years old... 22 years, 5 months...2 be more precise, y'unnastan'...
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Reply #68 posted 03/31/03 7:06pm

Handclapsfinga snapz	Anji said: The song is actually about his brother.
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Reply #69 posted 03/31/03 7:06pm

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Anji said:

The song is actually about his brother.

"Climb in my fur."

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Reply #70 posted 03/31/03 7:07pm

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Reply #71 posted 03/31/03 7:08pm

joyaffr	Dodger, Prince's response to whether or not he was a Christian was to recite the Lord's prayer at the end of Controversy. So, if you go to the bible and read Song of SOolomon you will get a better idea of what he meant by writing the song Sister.
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Reply #72 posted 03/31/03 7:09pm

lovebizzare	Anji said: The song is actually about his brother. hmm...yeah, 'cause we all know that P thinks duane is FOINE ~KiKi
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Reply #73 posted 03/31/03 7:10pm

joyaffr	Song of Solomon
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Reply #74 posted 03/31/03 7:16pm

Handclapsfinga snapz	joyaffr said: Song of Solomon it's been swell, but the swelling's gone down...off 2 another thread, go i...
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Reply #75 posted 03/31/03 8:15pm

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Just as a “blow job” doesn’t mean blow, this song shouldn’t be taken so literally. wink

Prince in an interview with Chris Rock revealed how he was introduced to sex as a young boy. He described the experience as one that was “initiated heavy and quick” by his recently remarried mother. He was given playboy magazines and erotic literature was laying around to be easily picked up. He said that it was “pretty heavy at the time” and that it “really affected [his] sexuality a great deal.” Perhaps his older stepsister also contributed part of her library to this “education.”

That sounds like the birth of a “Dirty Mind”, and when mixed with a heavy dose of imagination also the genesis of “Sister”.

I think Prince is using the song “Sister” to come to terms with this own twisted, familial feminine introduction to sex. The way Prince was taught the birds and the bees is not exactly textbook child psychology. wink

Prince was never pimped by his own sister and forced to work the streets of Minneapolis to make money, nor was he forcibly molested by her. lol

This is just Prince using a whole lot of smoke to hide the metaphorical, personal flame within. It’s actually quite sweet when you get at the heart of it. Poor little guy with no male figure around to guide him properly through puberty grows older and takes his anger out in song.

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Reply #76 posted 03/31/03 8:24pm

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mistermaxxx said:

Anji said:

mistermaxxx said:

Anji said:

DavidEye said:

Was Prince abused a child? Sometimes you have to wonder.In 1980,he does a song called "Sister",which basically claims he was raped by his sister.Then,in 1994,he does a song called "Papa",where he basically says he was physically abused by his father.

Papa also sounds like it was designed to be shocking; I'd be surprised if it's autobiographical.

I believe that Song to be a Fact&while it wasn't a Song that totally knocks me out I always thought this was a Song Prince did to say that I Understand what Michael Jackson has been through.I always thought this was Prince's Song for MJ in a Brother you aren't alone on this tip.as for "Sister" believe it or not Relatives can even try to turn out there own Flesh&Blood.while the song plays into the Context of Taboo Pop&Subject Matter there may be a Bigger story there that just hasn't been fully told?

You're right in as much as both songs could be factual. I'd be more suprised if Sister was because he sounds like he enjoyed reflecting on that experience.

depending on how&what went down can leave a Person with some out of this world feelings.He drops little hints at things over time but with Him you never get the full scoop but there is always more to what He says&going by how things have gone in His Career He got things out of His System&that alone took alot.

Here are the lyrics

Sister

I was only 16 but I guess that's no excuse
My sister was 32, lovely, and loose
She don't wear no underwear
She says it only gets in her hair
And it's got a funny way of stoppin' the juice
My sister never made love to anyone else but me
She's the reason for my, uh, sexuality
She showed me where it's supposed to go
A blow job doesn't mean blow
Incest is everything it's said to be
Oh, sister
Don't put me on the street again
Oh, sister
I just want to be your friend
I was only 16 and only half a man
My sister didn't give a goddamn
She only wanted to turn me out
She [took a whip to] me until I shout
"Oh, [motherfuckersjustamotherfucker]
Can't you understand?"
Oh, sister
Don't put me on the street again
Oh, sister
I just want to be your friend
I know what you want me to do
Put me on the street
And make me blue
Oh, sister, oohoohooow

© 1980 Ecnirp Music - BMI

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Reply #77 posted 03/31/03 8:26pm

Anji

Brendan said:

Just as a “blow job” doesn’t mean blow, this song shouldn’t be taken so literally. wink

Prince in an interview with Chris Rock revealed how he was introduced to sex as a young boy. He described the experience as one that was “initiated heavy and quick” by his recently remarried mother. He was given playboy magazines and erotic literature was laying around to be easily picked up. He said that it was “pretty heavy at the time” and that it “really affected [his] sexuality a great deal.” Perhaps his older stepsister also contributed part of her library to this “education.”

That sounds like the birth of a “Dirty Mind”, and when mixed with a heavy dose of imagination also the genesis of “Sister”.

I think Prince is using the song “Sister” to come to terms with this own twisted, familial feminine introduction to sex. The way Prince was taught the birds and the bees is not exactly textbook child psychology. wink

Prince was never pimped by his own sister and forced to work the streets of Minneapolis to make money, nor was he forcibly molested by her. lol

This is just Prince using a whole lot of smoke to hide the metaphorical, personal flame within. It’s actually quite sweet when you get at the heart of it. Poor little guy with no male figure around to guide him properly through puberty grows older and takes his anger out in song.

This is actually a great explanation, Brendan. I love the comment I've bolded above. lol

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Reply #78 posted 03/31/03 8:27pm

Handclapsfinga snapz	Anji said: This is actually a great explanation, Brendan. I love the comment I've bolded above. i agree!
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Reply #79 posted 03/31/03 9:33pm

Sdldawn

This is just another great song that makes me love Prince music, and WHy I love it.. Because these songs arent normal, their different, and that was makes his music unique. Even if u think its gross, or sick, its still a great song beneath the lyrics of perverted metaphors:)

I love it.. Dirty mind is a 10 (or however many tracks it has) step method to having a dirty mind/thinking differently..

DIRTY MIND ROCKS! smile

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Reply #80 posted 03/31/03 9:38pm

Handclapsfinga snapz	Sdldawn said: I love it.. Dirty mind is a 10 (or however many tracks it has) step method to having a dirty mind/thinking differently.. i agree...dm is like my jonathan livingston seagull. and it's an 8-step method DIRTY MIND ROCKS! ohhh hell yeah... no! [This message was edited Mon Mar 31 21:42:16 PST 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]
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Reply #81 posted 04/01/03 12:53am

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WatchThemFall said:

Harlequin said:

Its just a song, christ it isnt like he actuall released a clip of him having sex with his sister.

I actually think the song is quite good, and amuzing in a way. And the actual lyric is "She's the reason for my, uh, sexuality"

As for Papa, it is another great song, I think you are all reading to much in2 all of this. Next U will b saying that he was suicidal when he wrote Sometimes it Snows in April.

http://www.discography.de/index0.html

Um, I have that clip... its from Kazaa

There is a clip??? omg