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foreverfan1984

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Would love your suggestions

Hello! I just joined the online forum and am seeking suggestions. I'll begin by saying/admitting I was a Prince fan because of the popularity of Purple Rain. I was an awkward teenager and found his music to be comforting, invigorating and like nothing I had heard before. (I bought older releases to satisfy my need for more Prince immediately) He was with me (or I remained true) through high school, college and into my adult years which included setting out on my own in a new city with few friends. I digress. Suffice it to say, music, especially Prince was my companion. I branched out in my tastes and interests and they began to over shadow my Prince. The last album I purchased was Lovesexy. I heard the releases that were chart-making and was not moved to buy. My new loves were filling my musical needs.

Fast forward to April, I read online that Prince has passed. My sister texts me and is crying at her her job as a high school teacher. My response to the news from her was "I was going to marry that man". And the tears begin to flow. I was home alone cleaning. I sought out his music. No record player. Nothing on YouTube. I resorted to the radio. Lol. I sang, danced and cried all morning.

If you've made it this far, my question. I have so much lost time to make up. Where to start. I have been reading here for weeks and then intently waiting for the five days to pass before I could ask. I told my middle daughter choking back tears again, I've got memories to make and I need Prince to be the soundtrack again. Just like he was in my youth.

Please be kind in your responses. There is so much knowledge here but I have read the sting of some responses when fans who aren't the caliber of others post. I think Prince would welcome me back into the fold.
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Reply #1 posted 05/31/16 10:03am

Genesia

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I'd love to help but...suggestions for what? (You didn't really say.)

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #2 posted 05/31/16 10:21am

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What to purchase after Lovesexy. I'm loving some of the tunes I can hear on YouTube from AOA. But wonder about HitnRun and older things too.
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Reply #3 posted 05/31/16 10:33am

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It sort of depends which of his music you loved. If you loved Lovesexy, I'd suggest starting with Art Official Age and working backward through the discography. The Emancipation era was a different style, as were many others. In a way, I'm envious that you get to explore everything fresh!

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Reply #4 posted 05/31/16 10:40am

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I've always recommended to buy and listen to his albums chronologically. This way you get to listen to his music in the order they were originally released.

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Reply #5 posted 05/31/16 10:47am

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There's no one good place to start. Dive in and go forward if you want to hear modern things and backward if you want to hear older (but still somehow modern sounding) things.

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Reply #6 posted 05/31/16 11:52am

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Thank you for your thoughtful responses. If money were no object, I would take the suggestion to pick up where I left off and buy the catalog of releases (available). But at my age, I have two headed to college, one of which needs braces and a seven year old. Lol. My favorite, I think is Around the World in a Day. Parade a close second. And I don't listen much to the older stuff with my kids underfoot. wink Wait, Sign o the Times. IT's my fave. Lol. Maybe I SHOULD just buy it all.
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/16 12:11pm

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Okay, if your question was, what albums to buy? then there really are no answers because for EVERY album he made after Lovesexy, there is someone who loves and someone who hates it. If you like Prince the guitarist, Lotusflower is a good choice, but it comes with MPLSound, which is him reviving his 80s sound while never reaching the same hights as a songwriter. ArtOfficialAge is good, especially if you like the slow jam/r&b side of his music. Way Back Home is a must listen for everyone even remotely interested in Prince. In short, I think the best thing to do is to just listen to any album that grabs your attention and if you don't like it, try another one. Who knows. You might end up loving something that everyone hates or hating something that everyone loves. It's all part of the ride!
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Reply #8 posted 05/31/16 2:29pm

mightycow

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It really is very difficult to give solid advice. I was actually going to suggest Crystal Ball (has both old outtakes and some songs that were relatively new at the time of the release) but I think it's hard to find. Same goes for The Gold Experience, which is a solid 90s release. So problems like these make it a bit harder.

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For lack of better advice and seeing as you reasonably can't spend that much money I'd say go to the wrecka stow and do either of these 3 things :

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*pick up his most recent release 'HITnRUN Phase II', which the stow will definitely have in stock

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*pick up 'The Hits / The B-Sides'. Yes, you have a lot of these songs. But chances are you haven't heard any of the B-sides (don't know whether you just bought albums or singles as well). That's a full disc right there. Then there are the songs from 'Graffiti Bridge', 'Diamonds & Pearls' and the 'Love Symbol' album. These are the albums that followed after 'Lovesexy'. (There was 'Batman' too but due to contractual obligations there are no .songs from this album on the compilation.) And there are some songs on there that are exclusive to this release. I counted the songs that could be new to you on this release : 30 songs (that's 20 B-sides and 10 other tracks).

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*go to the wrecka stow and pick up a random album you haven't heard yet. There's nothing wrong with being surprised. There are bound to be at least a few tracks on every release you will love.

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If you really don't know what to pick and must have one album title I would go for 'Art Official Age'. It's recent (2014), there are definitely some quality tracks on there, it has a contemporary sound but still sounds very much like Prince, moreover the album is very cohesive in sound and - something which might draw you in - some of the lyrics seem rather personal.

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Welcome to the Org btw!

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Reply #9 posted 05/31/16 2:40pm

Aerogram

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limoncello said:

It sort of depends which of his music you loved. If you loved Lovesexy, I'd suggest starting with Art Official Age and working backward through the discography. The Emancipation era was a different style, as were many others. In a way, I'm envious that you get to explore everything fresh!

That's an excellent suggestion to go from Lovesexy to AOA. I'd then proceed to:

Hit n Run Phase 2

One Nite Alone Live

Musicology

The Gold Experience

Or you can try joining Tidal and check out his stuff for a month or two, see what you like.

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Reply #10 posted 05/31/16 2:43pm

foreverfan1984

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mightycow said:

It really is very difficult to give solid advice. I was actually going to suggest Crystal Ball (has both old outtakes and some songs that were relatively new at the time of the release) but I think it's hard to find. Same goes for The Gold Experience, which is a solid 90s release. So problems like these make it a bit harder.

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For lack of better advice and seeing as you reasonably can't spend that much money I'd say go to the wrecka stow and do either of these 3 things :

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*pick up his most recent release 'HITnRUN Phase II', which the stow will definitely have in stock

.

*pick up 'The Hits / The B-Sides'. Yes, you have a lot of these songs. But chances are you haven't heard any of the B-sides (don't know whether you just bought albums or singles as well). That's a full disc right there. Then there are the songs from 'Graffiti Bridge', 'Diamonds & Pearls' and the 'Love Symbol' album. These are the albums that followed after 'Lovesexy'. (There was 'Batman' too but due to contractual obligations there are no .songs from this album on the compilation.) And there are some songs on there that are exclusive to this release. I counted the songs that could be new to you on this release : 30 songs (that's 20 B-sides and 10 other tracks).

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*go to the wrecka stow and pick up a random album you haven't heard yet. There's nothing wrong with being surprised. There are bound to be at least a few tracks on every release you will love.

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If you really don't know what to pick and must have one album title I would go for 'Art Official Age'. It's recent (2014), there are definitely some quality tracks on there, it has a contemporary sound but still sounds very much like Prince, moreover the album is very cohesive in sound and - something which might draw you in - some of the lyrics seem rather personal.

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Welcome to the Org btw!

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SO helpful! I am leaning towards either HitnRun Phase II or AOA. Though I want to try some older things, I wonder why I wasn't moved to buy after hearing Daimonds and Pearls and others on the radio. I didn't love it. I typically enjoy the funk more than the ballads though I have had Way Back Home and It Could be Us on so much my kids are complaining. But what drew me back was FunknRoll. My teens run crying because I've played it so much. lol And my seven year old sings along. I had the hit's/b-sides in my hot little hands over the weekend and didn't pull the trigger. I am holding out for Vinyl since I got a record player for my birthday and all the Prince in stock was on CD.

Thank you so much for your suggestions! I may do more than one of them!

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Reply #11 posted 05/31/16 2:45pm

foreverfan1984

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Aerogram said:

limoncello said:

It sort of depends which of his music you loved. If you loved Lovesexy, I'd suggest starting with Art Official Age and working backward through the discography. The Emancipation era was a different style, as were many others. In a way, I'm envious that you get to explore everything fresh!

That's an excellent suggestion to go from Lovesexy to AOA. I'd then proceed to:

Hit n Run Phase 2

One Nite Alone Live

Musicology

The Gold Experience

Or you can try joining Tidal and check out his stuff for a month or two, see what you like.

Thank you! I am leaning toward AOA first. I JUST heard Musicology for the first time last week. (the title track) OMGoodness, I love it so. I must have it all. Eventually. smile

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Reply #12 posted 05/31/16 2:57pm

Aerogram

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I almost forgot: The Black Album

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Reply #13 posted 05/31/16 3:12pm

SPYZFAN1

Yes I agree..The Black Album is a good choice. If you liked "Purple Rain", "Around The World" and "S.O.T.T", get "The Gold Experience", "Chaos And Disorder" and "Rave". They have almost those same adventurous and quirky bits that made those 80's records cool.

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Reply #14 posted 05/31/16 3:20pm

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Yeah... But if you listen to The Black Album now, it'll make you wonder... What was all the fuzz about? confuse
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Reply #15 posted 05/31/16 3:33pm

SPYZFAN1

I thought the same thing back then when I picked up a bootleg of it. It was pretty tame compared what I was expecting to hear. But when Sirius radio starting playing the cuts during their tribute, I re-discovered how unique it is.

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Reply #16 posted 05/31/16 5:01pm

justtracy

I too have been waiting patiently to finally post. I could've written your post! I haven't even scratched the surface. I've just been watching his concerts on YT while I can. They are slowly going away... I rented Under the cherry moon and fell in love with the Parade album. I hear a sound I like, look it up and figure out what album it was on. I missed SO much and felt like a fair weather friend 😥.
Songs I thought I would have never liked are my jam as of late so maybe it was meant for me to hear them later in life.
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Reply #17 posted 05/31/16 5:10pm

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justtracy said:

I too have been waiting patiently to finally post. I could've written your post! I haven't even scratched the surface. I've just been watching his concerts on YT while I can. They are slowly going away... I rented Under the cherry moon and fell in love with the Parade album. I hear a sound I like, look it up and figure out what album it was on. I missed SO much and felt like a fair weather friend 😥. Songs I thought I would have never liked are my jam as of late so maybe it was meant for me to hear them later in life.

Awww, what a sweet post. And what a great way to look at the missed years. Maybe we are meant to hear them now. I think part of why I want to hear the more recent things is because, like Prince, I have matured...had so many life experiences. I want to hear the things I missed, but I feel drawn to what Prince became more than the journey.

I watched Under the Cherry Moon on Youtube as well. I remember it vividly from it's first release. I have Sign o the Times on VHS! lol In fact, I only have Lovesexy on Cassette and my tape deck recently ate my Sign O the Times. So, I really plan on getting those again at some point.

Please pop back in and mention what you are enjoying.

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Reply #18 posted 05/31/16 5:23pm

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foreverfan1984 said:

justtracy said:

I too have been waiting patiently to finally post. I could've written your post! I haven't even scratched the surface. I've just been watching his concerts on YT while I can. They are slowly going away... I rented Under the cherry moon and fell in love with the Parade album. I hear a sound I like, look it up and figure out what album it was on. I missed SO much and felt like a fair weather friend 😥. Songs I thought I would have never liked are my jam as of late so maybe it was meant for me to hear them later in life.

Awww, what a sweet post. And what a great way to look at the missed years. Maybe we are meant to hear them now. I think part of why I want to hear the more recent things is because, like Prince, I have matured...had so many life experiences. I want to hear the things I missed, but I feel drawn to what Prince became more than the journey.

I watched Under the Cherry Moon on Youtube as well. I remember it vividly from it's first release. I have Sign o the Times on VHS! lol In fact, I only have Lovesexy on Cassette and my tape deck recently ate my Sign O the Times. So, I really plan on getting those again at some point.

Please pop back in and mention what you are enjoying.


Go for the B-sides, the side projects / protégés, the unreleased projects (Camille, Dream Factory), and then the live concerts, aftershow included.

You'll have to google like a maniac before finding the stuff (don't stop at the first page of results), possibly using some peer-to-peer software, but I promise it'll be worth it.





The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #19 posted 05/31/16 6:16pm

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First, pick up "The Hits/The B-Sides". It's a good primer for some of the stuff that he recorded between "Lovesexy" and "The Love Symbol" album. After that, I would pick up "The Gold Experience", "Musicology" and "Art Official Age". If you can get past the preachiness, "The Rainbow Children" is a great record.

Later, I would also start hunting for some of the "unofficial" stuff.

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Reply #20 posted 05/31/16 6:26pm

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MIInsane said:

First, pick up "The Hits/The B-Sides". It's a good primer for some of the stuff that he recorded between "Lovesexy" and "The Love Symbol" album. After that, I would pick up "The Gold Experience", "Musicology" and "Art Official Age". If you can get past the preachiness, "The Rainbow Children" is a great record.



Later, I would also start hunting for some of the "unofficial" stuff.



You guys are talking me into B-sides. Maybe I'll splurge and get both. I feel so out of the loop with official stuff, I can't wrap my mind around unofficial.
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Reply #21 posted 05/31/16 6:33pm

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I would start with Crystal Ball and work my way back all the way to For You. I started losing interest after the Crystal Ball fiasco. But yet I still bought everthing that came out after that. Enjoy the ride.

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Reply #22 posted 05/31/16 9:27pm

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Aerogram said:

I almost forgot: The Black Album

Damn, you're right. If you love Lovesexy you have to get the Black Album. It does feel so tame by today's standards, but Bob George remains as weird and funky as music will ever get.

OP, don't stress. You have so much fun and music ahead of you! I hope you report back on your journey. razz

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Reply #23 posted 05/31/16 10:27pm

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I started listening when I was 12 in 1997. The order I listened in (after my dad's obvious 80s stuff that you have) was diamonds and pearls, b sides, emancipation then Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic came out in real time for me when I was 14 so I had to get that (a lot of oldfans pass on this but you've been 14 so you can probably understand the excitement of a new release) the gold experience (probably too expensive right now, get it on cassette at least)

I really like these albums and I suggest them if you want to be like a hyper teenager again. The recent-ish musicology and 3121 are ahhhmayzing.

I did not have the internet when I was q kid so all the online club stuff...out of my grasp.
Trufax: My daddy told me the he and mom went to Purple Rain in a Seattle Theater. They were so moved by the movie that they went into the record store and bought the album immediately. They went home and conceived me.
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Reply #24 posted 05/31/16 11:04pm

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foreverfan1984 said:

What to purchase after Lovesecy. I'm loving some of the tunes I can hear on YouTube from AOA. But wonder about HitnRun and older things too.

Prince had a different look and a different sound for so many different phases in his career and not everyone in here likes them all. You'll get different opinions from all over the place. The Essentials are the music that coincided with his commercial prime, 1999 and Purple Rain. Those two albums are him at his most influential in the music world and with Purple Rain, one of the great commercial albums. Many people believe Prince tired of the megastardom which accompanied the movie and soundtrack thus his major departure in his next album, Around The World In a Day which sold only a fraction of what Purple Rain did and pissed off a lot of the fair weather fans. Effectively getting rid of a good chunk of his newfound fanbase, he further alienated himself with Parade and SOTT, both albums full of brilliance but which intentionally went away from the marketplace and away from any creative stagnation. Kurt Loder surmises in his review of SOTT that maybe Prince was scared or bored with the purple rain success and intentionally went in another direction. Loder says that Prince was right on the brink of some new fusion of black/white,funk/rock and he stopped dead in his tracks. The review is a frustrated review praising the album as, how did he say it? about a quarter of it being brilliant and the rest merely being better than 90% of the stuff on radio, accurate statement. after praising the album and saying that brilliance was no surprise from Prince, that he wanted that bold statement that was promised by Purple Rain, i for one, will be interested if any of the albums held back from that era are anything of that ilk.

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justtracy said:

I too have been waiting patiently to finally post. I could've written your post! I haven't even scratched the surface. I've just been watching his concerts on YT while I can. They are slowly going away... I rented Under the cherry moon and fell in love with the Parade album. I hear a sound I like, look it up and figure out what album it was on. I missed SO much and felt like a fair weather friend 😥. Songs I thought I would have never liked are my jam as of late so maybe it was meant for me to hear them later in life.

Welcome to the Org, Tracy!

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Reply #26 posted 06/01/16 1:53pm

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I decided to try AOA first. Called every Wrecka Stow within 50 miles. They have Purple Rain and 1999. Plenty of those. I didn't realize I might not be able to just get what I want. sad One of the stores told me there are so few places that make vinyl that I would probably have to wait 2+ months. I am so disappointed. I want my Prince now.

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Reply #27 posted 06/01/16 2:00pm

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foreverfan1984 said:

I decided to try AOA first. Called every Wrecka Stow within 50 miles. They have Purple Rain and 1999. Plenty of those. I didn't realize I might not be able to just get what I want. sad One of the stores told me there are so few places that make vinyl that I would probably have to wait 2+ months. I am so disappointed. I want my Prince now.

if you're not out in the middle of nowhere, getting vinyl shouldn't be that hard, saw some at fry's yesterday. don't really see the need for them really.

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Reply #28 posted 06/02/16 4:10am

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foreverfan1984 said:

I decided to try AOA first. Called every Wrecka Stow within 50 miles. They have Purple Rain and 1999. Plenty of those. I didn't realize I might not be able to just get what I want. sad One of the stores told me there are so few places that make vinyl that I would probably have to wait 2+ months. I am so disappointed. I want my Prince now.

I am very sorry to hear that. You could buy AOA on Tidal right now, but I could see how you would not want to pay for an album twice if you're looking forward to playing it on vinyl afterwards.

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Reply #29 posted 06/02/16 4:11am

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foreverfan1984 said:

I decided to try AOA first. Called every Wrecka Stow within 50 miles. They have Purple Rain and 1999. Plenty of those. I didn't realize I might not be able to just get what I want. sad One of the stores told me there are so few places that make vinyl that I would probably have to wait 2+ months. I am so disappointed. I want my Prince now.

my local wal mart has it!

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