I got to start out by saying I have been reading this entire thread through until the last post.

And I got to pick up on some things...

-

I honestly still can not process Prince being gone. I still can't even accept it - it hurts, it hurts so much that I signed up on here. I always read with U guys, and it feels very like home.. and now it feels like here is the only place where I can be understood and free talking.

-

If I now bring up all these things, I apologize, if I might upset or bore someone that see's much clearer than me with it.

-

So, since the day Prince is gone I am every day questioning what was happening. I am going through everything we know, I am going through his last days, especially the wednesday and no matter how I turn it, how deep I dig, how many answers are given and I try to give myself - nothing makes sense. Nothing.

-

Before I go deeper in this, I want to say something to the " He has been using a scooter at shows." Right, he did, but I have seen many artists using scooters or Segways because have U ever been backstage at some venues? they are simply to huge, to make all the walks to come from one place to another. I kinda doubt he did that just for pain matters. It may be one reason, but not like, he wasn't able to move so put him on a scooter.

-

Then to the picture that has been posted of him where people state, he looks sick - that u can see right there. Come on guys. It is one picture taken out of motion. If u could have a look at some pictures of me, god I sure would have been gone many times already... Look at other pictures of the exact same appearance of him. In other pictures, one has been even poster later on here, he looks good, for a 57 year old come on, I have seen some 50 year old that looked way worse than him right there.

I think what's even more confusing to his look, is the afro too, his face didn't change that much, if u want to dig into it, take some of the pics and compare them to some of him with short hair. Face is the same. He is skinny yes, but he has always been skinny - again the Afro puts attention on lots of this, that counts for how skinny he is as well.

When u actually watch a video of him there, he is so amazingly beautiful right there - and he is right there, in this moment. He is not a dying man, or whatever people want to interpet in this picture.

I know how easy it is to do this now, my mind does this to me too. I see some bad taken picture of a moment where he doesn't look well, and I am like... this was bound to happen, but just take a moment to have a look at a picture taken a few seconds later... u will see.

-

So, going back to all my thoughts to the wednesday.

As of what we know Prince was that day at the hospital. Right... which hospital lets a man leave, when he is in a emergency situation? ... Okay now people will come again and tell me they can't keep him against his will. I hear U. But believe me, if U are doing so bad, if U are fighting for ur life just a week before and U are, as stated nervous about all this happening to you, and u try to seek help by going to the hospital, AND later seeing a doctor - does this sound like someone to you that would leave the hospital although he is doing bad? When u are in a emergency situation the last thing that comes to u is ur ego... U are seeking help, that is what u do, it is a normal human instinct.

Okay, so next thing we know, he meets this doctor... right, he is doing some tests with him. what tests we do still not know anything about that right.. but it must have been something important since the doctor showed up next morning right away. He didn't call Prince. He came to Paisley... Why?

Next we know is, Prince was at the walgreens and he was dropped off. So tell me one thing, w h o would leave him alone in a medical emergency situation?! who? I don't leave a person alone, that is doing so bad, he is dead some hours later. I am sorry but even if he did tell that somebody to go home - no. Go ask this urself. U wouldn't have done that.

I assume it was someone close to Prince, and we know who i am thinking about, he would have never left Prince alone if he was doing THAT bad. So there is two questions, if he wasn't doing that bad, what happened in Paisley Park when Prince was alone? What does take them so long, believe me Paisley Park is fully wired and there are security cameras. It even says it at the gates of Paisley Park. Security Cameras 24/7.

So when those people there did do their job, why did nobody call for help?! Seeing Prince lying there? and if that not, why does it take so long to be able to say what did happen to Prince - even if there was no camera at that moment, Paisley is completely w i r e d.

So they can't tell what was going on?! Come on...

I feel like people are not doing their job right. I feel like everything is messed up since second one.

-

One more thing, this doctor that sent his son - he did talk about Prince being in a emergency situation - then w h y would U send ur son?!? WHY would you not call the ambulance around for help and tell - Prince needs help, it is a critical emergency situation u got to go to Paisley.

I don't understand this, if it was soooo needed, if it was such a dangerous situation - w h y wouldn't U be calling for help around Prince?! Even if they'd just take care of him over the night until his son arrived.

-

There is too many questions unanswered, too many thoughts haunting me. And it all simply seems so wrong. I don't believe a thing the media tells us.

I don't believe there was an addiction over years.

If U go ahead and look up withdrawal symptomps of Percocet, well it is the flu symptomps. I guess he did have to take those - and he did want to come off of them, from the 07. april, the first time he met up with his doctor and had to cancel the show.He tried to get off of it. This guy was living super healthy, he was vegetarian, didn't drink, didn't smoke - I mean look at him!

So we all know he wrecked his body for us, because he gave it all on stage, and yes I believe he had some issues and got these pills prescribed before, but yes he obviously didnt want to do this anymore to his body. So flu symptoms and everything they recall that he had, are withdrawal symptoms of percocet.

But Prince being Prince, he didn't want to let his fans down any longer, so I think and hey, I am just trying to come somewhere in this mess of thoughts, he did take some percocet on the 14th of april to be able to do the show, to give us what we love and what he loves the most. Him and his music. It is what he lived for. He did give us his alle, 24/7 every day. There was no other life, like other artists do have - music was his life. He was music. He is music. So, believe me, he wanted to get on that stage no matter how - but, being already off of this, struggling with withdrawal and then taking some of it, can cause some major problems, as it then happened in the plane...

-

And from then on.. I don't know, but I don't believe a thing that has been thrown at us, I think it is too easy to just take this all in as it's been said... there is more to the story.

There is too much wrong and not coming together...

-

I just hope, there is some people doing there work right - we simply owe this to Prince. To not believe so simply everything that they are telling us. He taught us this, didn't he?

-

As u can tell, I am still struggling, every day. It is not like I never lost somebody. I did. But I never was hurt that way... I just can't understand. It wasn't his time, that is all I know.

CROWNS1 said:

tmo1965 said:

nelcp777 said:

Another thing that I have been trying to figure out is Prince's style of clothing. In the last year, he was completely covered. Now I am not saying he should be letting it all hang out, but he wore turtle necks, long sleeves and gloves and a jacket. Even the photo of Prince at Electric Fetus, he was similarly dressed, without the gloves.

I read somewhere that he had stopped allowing others to help him get dressed. If people never saw him take pills maybe it was because he didn't as he was using a patch.

Eileen said:

PurpleSpooks said:

I got to start out by saying I have been reading this entire thread through until the last post.

And I got to pick up on some things...

-

I honestly still can not process Prince being gone. I still can't even accept it - it hurts, it hurts so much that I signed up on here. I always read with U guys, and it feels very like home.. and now it feels like here is the only place where I can be understood and free talking.

-

If I now bring up all these things, I apologize, if I might upset or bore someone that see's much clearer than me with it.

-

So, since the day Prince is gone I am every day questioning what was happening. I am going through everything we know, I am going through his last days, especially the wednesday and no matter how I turn it, how deep I dig, how many answers are given and I try to give myself - nothing makes sense. Nothing.

-

Before I go deeper in this, I want to say something to the " He has been using a scooter at shows." Right, he did, but I have seen many artists using scooters or Segways because have U ever been backstage at some venues? they are simply to huge, to make all the walks to come from one place to another. I kinda doubt he did that just for pain matters. It may be one reason, but not like, he wasn't able to move so put him on a scooter.

-

Then to the picture that has been posted of him where people state, he looks sick - that u can see right there. Come on guys. It is one picture taken out of motion. If u could have a look at some pictures of me, god I sure would have been gone many times already... Look at other pictures of the exact same appearance of him. In other pictures, one has been even poster later on here, he looks good, for a 57 year old come on, I have seen some 50 year old that looked way worse than him right there.

I think what's even more confusing to his look, is the afro too, his face didn't change that much, if u want to dig into it, take some of the pics and compare them to some of him with short hair. Face is the same. He is skinny yes, but he has always been skinny - again the Afro puts attention on lots of this, that counts for how skinny he is as well.

When u actually watch a video of him there, he is so amazingly beautiful right there - and he is right there, in this moment. He is not a dying man, or whatever people want to interpet in this picture.

I know how easy it is to do this now, my mind does this to me too. I see some bad taken picture of a moment where he doesn't look well, and I am like... this was bound to happen, but just take a moment to have a look at a picture taken a few seconds later... u will see.

-

So, going back to all my thoughts to the wednesday.

As of what we know Prince was that day at the hospital. Right... which hospital lets a man leave, when he is in a emergency situation? ... Okay now people will come again and tell me they can't keep him against his will. I hear U. But believe me, if U are doing so bad, if U are fighting for ur life just a week before and U are, as stated nervous about all this happening to you, and u try to seek help by going to the hospital, AND later seeing a doctor - does this sound like someone to you that would leave the hospital although he is doing bad? When u are in a emergency situation the last thing that comes to u is ur ego... U are seeking help, that is what u do, it is a normal human instinct.

Okay, so next thing we know, he meets this doctor... right, he is doing some tests with him. what tests we do still not know anything about that right.. but it must have been something important since the doctor showed up next morning right away. He didn't call Prince. He came to Paisley... Why?

Next we know is, Prince was at the walgreens and he was dropped off. So tell me one thing, w h o would leave him alone in a medical emergency situation?! who? I don't leave a person alone, that is doing so bad, he is dead some hours later. I am sorry but even if he did tell that somebody to go home - no. Go ask this urself. U wouldn't have done that.

I assume it was someone close to Prince, and we know who i am thinking about, he would have never left Prince alone if he was doing THAT bad. So there is two questions, if he wasn't doing that bad, what happened in Paisley Park when Prince was alone? What does take them so long, believe me Paisley Park is fully wired and there are security cameras. It even says it at the gates of Paisley Park. Security Cameras 24/7.

So when those people there did do their job, why did nobody call for help?! Seeing Prince lying there? and if that not, why does it take so long to be able to say what did happen to Prince - even if there was no camera at that moment, Paisley is completely w i r e d.

So they can't tell what was going on?! Come on...

I feel like people are not doing their job right. I feel like everything is messed up since second one.

-

One more thing, this doctor that sent his son - he did talk about Prince being in a emergency situation - then w h y would U send ur son?!? WHY would you not call the ambulance around for help and tell - Prince needs help, it is a critical emergency situation u got to go to Paisley.

I don't understand this, if it was soooo needed, if it was such a dangerous situation - w h y wouldn't U be calling for help around Prince?! Even if they'd just take care of him over the night until his son arrived.

-

There is too many questions unanswered, too many thoughts haunting me. And it all simply seems so wrong. I don't believe a thing the media tells us.

I don't believe there was an addiction over years.

If U go ahead and look up withdrawal symptomps of Percocet, well it is the flu symptomps. I guess he did have to take those - and he did want to come off of them, from the 07. april, the first time he met up with his doctor and had to cancel the show.He tried to get off of it. This guy was living super healthy, he was vegetarian, didn't drink, didn't smoke - I mean look at him!

So we all know he wrecked his body for us, because he gave it all on stage, and yes I believe he had some issues and got these pills prescribed before, but yes he obviously didnt want to do this anymore to his body. So flu symptoms and everything they recall that he had, are withdrawal symptoms of percocet.

But Prince being Prince, he didn't want to let his fans down any longer, so I think and hey, I am just trying to come somewhere in this mess of thoughts, he did take some percocet on the 14th of april to be able to do the show, to give us what we love and what he loves the most. Him and his music. It is what he lived for. He did give us his alle, 24/7 every day. There was no other life, like other artists do have - music was his life. He was music. He is music. So, believe me, he wanted to get on that stage no matter how - but, being already off of this, struggling with withdrawal and then taking some of it, can cause some major problems, as it then happened in the plane...

-

And from then on.. I don't know, but I don't believe a thing that has been thrown at us, I think it is too easy to just take this all in as it's been said... there is more to the story.

There is too much wrong and not coming together...

-

I just hope, there is some people doing there work right - we simply owe this to Prince. To not believe so simply everything that they are telling us. He taught us this, didn't he?

-

As u can tell, I am still struggling, every day. It is not like I never lost somebody. I did. But I never was hurt that way... I just can't understand. It wasn't his time, that is all I know.

Yes, it is still very painful. What hurts me, that everything seems to be shut down. No more information, his body was cremated hastily (some say it was his wish), but within hours, his body was cremated, no official Funeral, and we simply dont hear anything again, no results of the investigation, everything seems very very weird, he was just left alone, nobody was there for him and we will never really know what happened exactly, only that he overdosed on a very dangerous medication and that nobody really seemed to care, because, did he not just escape death a couple of days ago, but people just left him alone..... cant figure it out, the only thing left is to accept the fact, that he is gone and will never be here again.....only his music will live on....its all so hard to accept... a lot of this just seems not okay. also the situation with his will....

langebleu said:

From part 1: http://prince.org/msg/7/423528

Continuing discussion regarding the autopsy report and investigation of Prince's health and condition at the time of his passing: factual information, please, avoiding rumors and defamatory comments.

How we gonna avoid rumors when they wont tell us What He Was Dying Of.

Snake said:

langebleu said:

From part 1: http://prince.org/msg/7/423528

Continuing discussion regarding the autopsy report and investigation of Prince's health and condition at the time of his passing: factual information, please, avoiding rumors and defamatory comments.

How we gonna avoid rumors when they wont tell us What He Was Dying Of.

It will come out eventually - it is just a matter of time.....

PurpleSpooks said:

LBrent said:

PurpleSpooks said:

I got to start out by saying I have been reading this entire thread through until the last post.

And I got to pick up on some things...

-

SNIP

And from then on.. I don't know, but I don't believe a thing that has been thrown at us, I think it is too easy to just take this all in as it's been said... there is more to the story.

There is too much wrong and not coming together...

-

I just hope, there is some people doing there work right - we simply owe this to Prince. To not believe so simply everything that they are telling us. He taught us this, didn't he?

-

As u can tell, I am still struggling, every day. It is not like I never lost somebody. I did. But I never was hurt that way... I just can't understand. It wasn't his time, that is all I know.

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was crazy! (Um. I still might be. Lol) After nearly 40 years of following just about every detail about P, coming back to a fan community was comforting. Y'all are the only ones who understand the helpless feelings associated with our collective grief. My close friends and family love me but they gave up a very long time ago on trying to understand why I was fascinated by P. Eventually, they went from being disgusted to acceptance and eventually, a grudging respect. April 21st, I was at an appointment and suddenly my cellphone was ringing, blinking and it startled me at first. It was several of my loved ones checking on me after they had heard what had happened. I had been in a very long appointment and had no idea until they called. Even then, I thought it was a hoax. I come here because being able to see other fans connect makes me not feel like I'm so odd by missing a complete stranger. These threads help me process a bit.

Thank you for the sincerity of your response.

bilbolives said:

LBrent said:

PurpleSpooks said: Thank you. I was beginning to think I was crazy! (Um. I still might be. Lol) After nearly 40 years of following just about every detail about P, coming back to a fan community was comforting. Y'all are the only ones who understand the helpless feelings associated with our collective grief. My close friends and family love me but they gave up a very long time ago on trying to understand why I was fascinated by P. Eventually, they went from being disgusted to acceptance and eventually, a grudging respect. April 21st, I was at an appointment and suddenly my cellphone was ringing, blinking and it startled me at first. It was several of my loved ones checking on me after they had heard what had happened. I had been in a very long appointment and had no idea until they called. Even then, I thought it was a hoax. I come here because being able to see other fans connect makes me not feel like I'm so odd by missing a complete stranger. These threads help me process a bit.

Thank you for the sincerity of your response.

When I heard about it, the first thing I did was run to my computer to find out what happened and what was going on. My family gave up on trying to understand me. I was wearing something purple every day for weeks--- this was the first week that I decided I had to let go of Prince. It is tough. But the Org and fellow members DOES help -- very much.

[Edited 7/8/16 20:31pm]

mailaccount63 said:

angel22 said:

Yes, it is still very painful. What hurts me, that everything seems to be shut down. No more information, his body was cremated hastily (some say it was his wish), but within hours, his body was cremated, no official Funeral, and we simply dont hear anything again, no results of the investigation, everything seems very very weird, he was just left alone, nobody was there for him and we will never really know what happened exactly, only that he overdosed on a very dangerous medication and that nobody really seemed to care, because, did he not just escape death a couple of days ago, but people just left him alone..... cant figure it out, the only thing left is to accept the fact, that he is gone and will never be here again.....only his music will live on....its all so hard to accept... a lot of this just seems not okay. also the situation with his will....

I just had a conversation about this today, that Prince got cremated so fast. We get told it was his wish and at the same time, we are told that there was no will... further more, he is gone since 21st April. Tyka said, they are gonna do a memorial in August - come on, seriously? People all over the world love this man with all their heart. He gave this world so so endlessly much, he sacrificed his life, his energy, everything he had - he has given it all to us - and what does he get now, the one time someone has got to do something for him. We are not allowed to honour him? To thank him? We have July. It makes me sick, seriously, to think of, that this is the way he was said goodbye to - with not saying goodbye at all...

Did u guys see Muhammad Ali's memorial? Friends of mine said, that was what he deserved, so much outpouring love because he was not just a citizen of the US, he was a world citizen ... THAT is what I want for our Prince. This is what he deserves, Love.

I feel like, nobody has a clue what to do, nobody really gives an effort. Prince was always the creator, he was in charge of everything and now that he is gone, people are lost.

This makes me endlessly sad. I can't understand and it breaks my heart. Why August? 4 months later? ... He got cremated so fast, but the memorial, the saying thank u and honouring him showing love.. this u wont do until 4 months later?... It is just sad.

Again, I don't believe there is no will. Prince, the man that did fight for so l o n g to get his masters back - he would just leave it all, all he created to somebody? No way. Never. We got to know him over the years, and he is in control over everything. He would never not have a will. Somebody doesn't want him to have a will. That is obvious now that there is no will to be found.

I still can't accept it at all, and I am very unsure if I ever will... I wish so much for him to still be here... :'(

LBrent said:

PurpleSpooks said:

I got to start out by saying I have been reading this entire thread through until the last post.

And I got to pick up on some things...

-

SNIP

And from then on.. I don't know, but I don't believe a thing that has been thrown at us, I think it is too easy to just take this all in as it's been said... there is more to the story.

There is too much wrong and not coming together...

-

I just hope, there is some people doing there work right - we simply owe this to Prince. To not believe so simply everything that they are telling us. He taught us this, didn't he?

-

As u can tell, I am still struggling, every day. It is not like I never lost somebody. I did. But I never was hurt that way... I just can't understand. It wasn't his time, that is all I know.

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was crazy! (Um. I still might be. Lol) After nearly 40 years of following just about every detail about P, coming back to a fan community was comforting. Y'all are the only ones who understand the helpless feelings associated with our collective grief. My close friends and family love me but they gave up a very long time ago on trying to understand why I was fascinated by P. Eventually, they went from being disgusted to acceptance and eventually, a grudging respect. April 21st, I was at an appointment and suddenly my cellphone was ringing, blinking and it startled me at first. It was several of my loved ones checking on me after they had heard what had happened. I had been in a very long appointment and had no idea until they called. Even then, I thought it was a hoax. I come here because being able to see other fans connect makes me not feel like I'm so odd by missing a complete stranger. These threads help me process a bit.

First of all, thank u so much for ur response - I can assure u, that u're not crazy. Just because we feel so much pain and sadness for somebody we were not directly in touch with doesn't mean we are weird ... It is different with Prince. He did open up to us and let us in .. no.. he did let us BE his life. There was no other life for Prince ever - the music was his life. He is music.

-

There was no wife and kids he'd come home to and once in a while record an album, go on tour and then do his private life again. No, this wasn't his job, we were part of his life. And so was he part of our lifes. It was a constant exchange of love and joy. This was not superficial, this what we have (I hate to say it all in past.. so dont mind me if I don't) is intense and deep and very meaningful. He touches our hearts and he is with us, through our entire lifes. Believe me, there is nothing crazy about feeling this way about him and grieving this much.

-

I am still a complete mess. When I am at work, and he gets played, or any song that he wrote gets played, u can find me in the restroom crying my eyeballs out. When I am at home I try to figure out w h y and what happened... simply what did happen to him. To me there is still no answer. I am trying to function every day I wake up, but it is devastating to wake up knowing, he is not here anymore - he is not playing the guitar right now, setting this beautiful purple energy free to the world. The world still needs him, we need him and I just know by heart that he had so much more to give. He has been working on new albums the week before he passed... do I have to say more?

-

I am very glad u found ur way here, because I am here for the same reason. I find comfort here. And I thank each and everyone that is here to share emotions and thoughts. It's now on us to carry on....

4OneAnother

[Edited 7/10/16 12:26pm]

PurpleSpooks said:

LBrent said:

PurpleSpooks said: Thank you. I was beginning to think I was crazy! (Um. I still might be. Lol) After nearly 40 years of following just about every detail about P, coming back to a fan community was comforting. Y'all are the only ones who understand the helpless feelings associated with our collective grief. My close friends and family love me but they gave up a very long time ago on trying to understand why I was fascinated by P. Eventually, they went from being disgusted to acceptance and eventually, a grudging respect. April 21st, I was at an appointment and suddenly my cellphone was ringing, blinking and it startled me at first. It was several of my loved ones checking on me after they had heard what had happened. I had been in a very long appointment and had no idea until they called. Even then, I thought it was a hoax. I come here because being able to see other fans connect makes me not feel like I'm so odd by missing a complete stranger. These threads help me process a bit.

First of all, thank u so much for ur response - I can assure u, that u're not crazy. Just because we feel so much pain and sadness for somebody we were not directly in touch with doesn't mean we are weird ... It is different with Prince. He did open up to us and let us in .. no.. he did let us BE his life. There was no other life for Prince ever - the music was his life. He is music.

-

There was no wife and kids he'd come home to and once in a while record an album, go on tour and then do his private life again. No, this wasn't his job, we were part of his life. And so was he part of our lifes. It was a constant exchange of love and joy. This was not superficial, this what we have (I hate to say it all in past.. so dont mind me if I don't) is intense and deep and very meaningful. He touches our hearts and he is with us, through our entire lifes. Believe me, there is nothing crazy about feeling this way about him and grieving this much.

-

I am still a complete mess. When I am at work, and he gets played, or any song that he wrote gets played, u can find me in the restroom crying my eyeballs out. When I am at home I try to figure out w h y and what happened... simply what did happen to him. To me there is still no answer. I am trying to function every day I wake up, but it is devastating to wake up knowing, he is not here anymore - he is not playing the guitar right now, setting this beautiful purple energy free to the world. The world still needs him, we need him and I just know by heart that he had so much more to give. He has been working on new albums the week before he passed... do I have to say more?

-

I am very glad u found ur way here, because I am here for the same reason. I find comfort here. And I thank each and everyone that is here to share emotions and thoughts. It's now on us to carry on....

4OneAnother

[Edited 7/10/16 12:26pm]

Know this: You are not alone.....

So...I've been stalking you all on the org for many years but never joined - sometimes this group can be intimidating. I've loved Prince ever since my friend introduced me to ATWIAD way back when...and I've grown up with him. So much of his music is the background to so many experiences - they are entertwined in my mind and I often can't help thinking of one without the other. It's just so weird that he's gone. I haven't listened to anything else since April, and all his albums are on a constant repeat. Good thing there's so much material!

So I finally officially joined the org after 4/21 and this is my first post. In reading everyon's comments, I know that even though most of my peeps think I'm crazy for hanging on to this like it just happend, I'm not alone in struggling to process what's happened. Anyway, thanks for letting me lurk and sharing.

I agree that August is too late for an appropriate memorial concert. I had read that two factions in the family were fighting over money for the concert - they want it televised, and which network would pay the most for the rights to televise the show? August is a terrible time for such a concert - most big acts are on tour, or on vacation. Where would it be? The new stadium is supposed to open in a month, and they had wanted Prince to be the opening act. IMO the BET memorial should be the last one. It was very appropriate, and tastefully accomplished. I am sad about this. But I don't think Prince would want some slapdash, non-A listers covering his music. Frankly, if they couldn't get his peers - McCartney, the Stones, Springsteen, etc. - then it shouldn't be done at all.

1Sasha said:

I agree that August is too late for an appropriate memorial concert. I had read that two factions in the family were fighting over money for the concert - they want it televised, and which network would pay the most for the rights to televise the show? August is a terrible time for such a concert - most big acts are on tour, or on vacation. Where would it be? The new stadium is supposed to open in a month, and they had wanted Prince to be the opening act. IMO the BET memorial should be the last one. It was very appropriate, and tastefully accomplished. I am sad about this. But I don't think Prince would want some slapdash, non-A listers covering his music. Frankly, if they couldn't get his peers - McCartney, the Stones, Springsteen, etc. - then it shouldn't be done at all.

I agree 1Sasha. The BET Awards was a 'homegoing' service to me. I felt things were done right...not perfect, but right. I wouldn't want Prince's departure to be dragged out any longer.

Just a gentle reminder there is still the Sometimes It Snows sticky for grieving and memorializing and similar discussion:

http://prince.org/msg/7/428244

whereas this sticky is for updates on the criminal investigation and autopsy.

Hello ~ I am new to this group. I have been reading the entries for a period of time, but with the passing of Prince, I wanted to join and add my thoughts. As the others that are members, I am also in disbelief and very sad about Prince leaving this world!

What I am going to say, might be taken the wrong way, and some may just down right dislike for what I am about to say. From what I have read, I do not feel Prince wanted to be here any longer. Please hear me out. I will list reasons for my thoughts.

1 - Prince was a very intelligent individual!

2 - He knew what the drugs would do.

3 - I believe he took the overdose of the medication before flying home from his final concert in Atlanta, thinking he would pass while up in the air and help would not be available to save him from death.

4 - If you read what Judith Hill had to say, she said she and Prince were engaged in conversation. She stated, had she been elsewhere on the plane and not sitting with him having the conversation, upon her possible return to Prince, she would have thought that he had just drifted off to sleep. She tried to arouse him and was unsucessful. She went and got the bodyguard so he could try and arouse Prince, and he could not either. That is when they alerted the pilot that he must try and land the plane so that Prince could have emergency attention ASAP!

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/21/prince-emergency-landing-judith-hill

5 - Prince had the party at Paisley Park the next evening so that he could try and make his fans/and everyone believe that there should not be any concern over his health. Prince used the excuse that he wanted people to see his new/awesome purple piano.

6 - Prince wanted to be alone at Paisley Park! He told Judith to go visit her relatives in CA. He told his bodyguard to go visit his family in TX. (The bodyguard was also in charge of security at PP.) He knew if they were there, if they saw anything abnormal, they would get emergency medical treatment for him.

7 - His brother-in-law said he was up for days.

8 - His chef said that the food he had prepared for him was left untouched and was in the refrigerator just as he had left it. He spoke of many other problems Prince had experienced recently.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/princes-chef-says-singer-fought-889161

Prince was a "Perfectionist" ~ He did not want everyone to find out what his real problem was. Just in the last year, his appearance and his health was taking a drastic turn for the worse. MN is a state that will not give all of the details they discover from an autopsy. The only details they are responsible to report, is the exact cause of a death. They are not required to report other medical problems/illness/issues the person might have had. I believe Prince had a "Deadly Problem". His situation is also being kept sealed/private.

I will continue with the rest of my thoughts should anyone be interested.

NinaB said:

eyewishuheaven said:

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NinaB said:

eyewishuheaven said:

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and me, as well.

Misty48 said:

Hello ~ I am new to this group. I have been reading the entries for a period of time, but with the passing of Prince, I wanted to join and add my thoughts. As the others that are members, I am also in disbelief and very sad about Prince leaving this world!

What I am going to say, might be taken the wrong way, and some may just down right dislike for what I am about to say. From what I have read, I do not feel Prince wanted to be here any longer. Please hear me out. I will list reasons for my thoughts.

1 - Prince was a very intelligent individual!

2 - He knew what the drugs would do.

3 - I believe he took the overdose of the medication before flying home from his final concert in Atlanta, thinking he would pass while up in the air and help would not be available to save him from death.

4 - If you read what Judith Hill had to say, she said she and Prince were engaged in conversation. She stated, had she been elsewhere on the plane and not sitting with him having the conversation, upon her possible return to Prince, she would have thought that he had just drifted off to sleep. She tried to arouse him and was unsucessful. She went and got the bodyguard so he could try and arouse Prince, and he could not either. That is when they alerted the pilot that he must try and land the plane so that Prince could have emergency attention ASAP!

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/21/prince-emergency-landing-judith-hill

5 - Prince had the party at Paisley Park the next evening so that he could try and make his fans/and everyone believe that there should not be any concern over his health. Prince used the excuse that he wanted people to see his new/awesome purple piano.

6 - Prince wanted to be alone at Paisley Park! He told Judith to go visit her relatives in CA. He told his bodyguard to go visit his family in TX. (The bodyguard was also in charge of security at PP.) He knew if they were there, if they saw anything abnormal, they would get emergency medical treatment for him.

7 - His brother-in-law said he was up for days.

8 - His chef said that the food he had prepared for him was left untouched and was in the refrigerator just as he had left it. He spoke of many other problems Prince had experienced recently.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/princes-chef-says-singer-fought-889161

Prince was a "Perfectionist" ~ He did not want everyone to find out what his real problem was. Just in the last year, his appearance and his health was taking a drastic turn for the worse. MN is a state that will not give all of the details they discover from an autopsy. The only details they are responsible to report, is the exact cause of a death. They are not required to report other medical problems/illness/issues the person might have had. I believe Prince had a "Deadly Problem". His situation is also being kept sealed/private.

I will continue with the rest of my thoughts should anyone be interested.

You are reading my mind. I sent you an Org note. Thank you so much for posting.

wow...i hope they come back soon with some answers.

Misty48 said:

I left out one word in my previous post. Whatever happened, it would NOT change ur love or respect for Prince. I am sorry for this mistake.

zoso1978 said:

Misty48 said:

Hello ~ I am new to this group. I have been reading the entries for a period of time, but with the passing of Prince, I wanted to join and add my thoughts. As the others that are members, I am also in disbelief and very sad about Prince leaving this world!

What I am going to say, might be taken the wrong way, and some may just down right dislike for what I am about to say. From what I have read, I do not feel Prince wanted to be here any longer. Please hear me out. I will list reasons for my thoughts.

1 - Prince was a very intelligent individual!

2 - He knew what the drugs would do.

3 - I believe he took the overdose of the medication before flying home from his final concert in Atlanta, thinking he would pass while up in the air and help would not be available to save him from death.

4 - If you read what Judith Hill had to say, she said she and Prince were engaged in conversation. She stated, had she been elsewhere on the plane and not sitting with him having the conversation, upon her possible return to Prince, she would have thought that he had just drifted off to sleep. She tried to arouse him and was unsucessful. She went and got the bodyguard so he could try and arouse Prince, and he could not either. That is when they alerted the pilot that he must try and land the plane so that Prince could have emergency attention ASAP!

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/21/prince-emergency-landing-judith-hill

5 - Prince had the party at Paisley Park the next evening so that he could try and make his fans/and everyone believe that there should not be any concern over his health. Prince used the excuse that he wanted people to see his new/awesome purple piano.

6 - Prince wanted to be alone at Paisley Park! He told Judith to go visit her relatives in CA. He told his bodyguard to go visit his family in TX. (The bodyguard was also in charge of security at PP.) He knew if they were there, if they saw anything abnormal, they would get emergency medical treatment for him.

7 - His brother-in-law said he was up for days.

8 - His chef said that the food he had prepared for him was left untouched and was in the refrigerator just as he had left it. He spoke of many other problems Prince had experienced recently.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/princes-chef-says-singer-fought-889161

Prince was a "Perfectionist" ~ He did not want everyone to find out what his real problem was. Just in the last year, his appearance and his health was taking a drastic turn for the worse. MN is a state that will not give all of the details they discover from an autopsy. The only details they are responsible to report, is the exact cause of a death. They are not required to report other medical problems/illness/issues the person might have had. I believe Prince had a "Deadly Problem". His situation is also being kept sealed/private.

I will continue with the rest of my thoughts should anyone be interested.

Very well put together. U may be right. I agree with your points.

In some of the most recent pics, Prince looks very ill. That's just the truth. My husband doesn't follow Prince and I showed a clip of Prince in 2014 (?) playing w Larry Graham for just a bit. Prince comes out, plays guitar, and exits. His face is very puffy. Prince has never been fat. At All! My hubby recognized the "look" right away. I've had to take large doses of prednisone steroids for long periods of time for an illness. 1 of the 1st things those meds do is swelling of the face or a "moon" face.

I showed him a very recent pic from the tour where he looks so very ill and not very much like Prince. He was pretty shocked, cause Prince does look so frail & ill.

He was sick from the meds. He was trying to kick the habbit and it affected his health. The not eating, being under weight are all sign that it was the pain killers.

I really don't think he killed himself. He had no reason to do that. I can't understand why people just can't believe that he took too much and couldn't get the help. The withdrawel from those things in hard!!! He may been taking a little at a time and before he knew it, he couldn't breath. Those things are hard on your breathing. Prince died by mistake or someone killed him.

zoso1978 said:

Misty48 said:

Hello ~ I am new to this group. I have been reading the entries for a period of time, but with the passing of Prince, I wanted to join and add my thoughts. As the others that are members, I am also in disbelief and very sad about Prince leaving this world!

What I am going to say, might be taken the wrong way, and some may just down right dislike for what I am about to say. From what I have read, I do not feel Prince wanted to be here any longer. Please hear me out. I will list reasons for my thoughts.

1 - Prince was a very intelligent individual!

2 - He knew what the drugs would do.

3 - I believe he took the overdose of the medication before flying home from his final concert in Atlanta, thinking he would pass while up in the air and help would not be available to save him from death.

4 - If you read what Judith Hill had to say, she said she and Prince were engaged in conversation. She stated, had she been elsewhere on the plane and not sitting with him having the conversation, upon her possible return to Prince, she would have thought that he had just drifted off to sleep. She tried to arouse him and was unsucessful. She went and got the bodyguard so he could try and arouse Prince, and he could not either. That is when they alerted the pilot that he must try and land the plane so that Prince could have emergency attention ASAP!

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/21/prince-emergency-landing-judith-hill

5 - Prince had the party at Paisley Park the next evening so that he could try and make his fans/and everyone believe that there should not be any concern over his health. Prince used the excuse that he wanted people to see his new/awesome purple piano.

6 - Prince wanted to be alone at Paisley Park! He told Judith to go visit her relatives in CA. He told his bodyguard to go visit his family in TX. (The bodyguard was also in charge of security at PP.) He knew if they were there, if they saw anything abnormal, they would get emergency medical treatment for him.

7 - His brother-in-law said he was up for days.

8 - His chef said that the food he had prepared for him was left untouched and was in the refrigerator just as he had left it. He spoke of many other problems Prince had experienced recently.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/princes-chef-says-singer-fought-889161

Prince was a "Perfectionist" ~ He did not want everyone to find out what his real problem was. Just in the last year, his appearance and his health was taking a drastic turn for the worse. MN is a state that will not give all of the details they discover from an autopsy. The only details they are responsible to report, is the exact cause of a death. They are not required to report other medical problems/illness/issues the person might have had. I believe Prince had a "Deadly Problem". His situation is also being kept sealed/private.

I will continue with the rest of my thoughts should anyone be interested.

Very well put together. U may be right. I agree with your points. In some of the most recent pics, Prince looks very ill. That's just the truth. My husband doesn't follow Prince and I showed a clip of Prince in 2014 (?) playing w Larry Graham for just a bit. Prince comes out, plays guitar, and exits. His face is very puffy. Prince has never been fat. At All! My hubby recognized the "look" right away. I've had to take large doses of prednisone steroids for long periods of time for an illness. 1 of the 1st things those meds do is swelling of the face or a "moon" face. I showed him a very recent pic from the tour where he looks so very ill and not very much like Prince. He was pretty shocked, cause Prince does look so frail & ill.

That's exaclty my husbands reaction. I showed him one of the last pics, him at the piano with a knit hat on , his adams apple was huge and the skin just hung on him He knows what Prince looked like healthy and with all the pics and videos we have been watching recently his words were yes he was sick there was something wrong. It hurts and makes me mad if it was an accident. But if it was his choice, if he was ill, it would be better, he is still not with us but he is not suffering. If it was an accident that could have been prevented, that is what makes me mad, that he didn't gey the help he needed.

Mumio said:

The bleakness clearly seen here. That is pure pain in his eyes. He was hurting. Badly. Go ahead, throw your arrows, I don't care. I am standing by what I have said.

I agree with every word you said. The pain in the eyes, the bleakness of the overall expression. Still more beautiful than the rest. No arrows for you at all. Grateful to understand and see what you see.