Ok, Im sure this is going to ruffle some feathers, and Im sure it will shake up a few folks, but I have to put this out there- everyone has the right to this information- what you choose to do with it...is up to YOU.

WHAT IF, Prince isnt "dead", what if he just "dissappeared?" He said once as far as his death, thats what he wanted to do...?

I am 99% certain that he did not physically die, but he went private. People do it all the time- its called the witness protection program. After watching numerous videos of past interviews, and reading many of his song lyrics, I have come to believe that he is in fact, not physically dead, but now a private American national citizen.

If you know anything about him, you will know that he was a lover of knowledge. In the last interview he did w/ Tavis Smiley, he spoke about chemtrails, and said he listened to Dick gregory, and when he found out there were 8 presidents before Washington..." after watching that interview I knew he was on the trail, but i didnt know how far down the rabbit hole he had gone, so I set to digging some more. the big clue was the name change. he was on the right track, but all he had to do was change it from the ALL CAPITAL LETTER legal fiction to the upper/lower proper name. Some of you will understand this and some wont, but Ill summarize: Look at your drivers license and every bill you get fromt the state- its in all capital letters, most dont notice or think anything of it..well it IS important. the all capital letter name is a DEAD legal fiction. It is the only way the state can do business with you- since the state only exists on paper- it is also a legal fiction. legal fictions cannot do business with the living man/woman. If he had changed his name back to the proper "style" he wouldve no longer been under the jurisdiction of the state. he wouldve returned to "the kingdon of God" we are all figuratively living in "Hell" and there IS a definition for Hell in blacks Law dictionary it is: " the name formerly given to a place under neath the exchequers' chambers, where the Kings debtors were confined" We are all debt slaves. Prince knew this when he fought with the record companies. If he had changed his name BACK to the proper style, he wouldve restored his status as the living man. As far as the legal system is concerned in this country, we are all infant decedents until we correct the record : http://thelawdictionary.o...diminutio/ I tink Prince figured it out and he went private. I have been studying law and history for 9 years now and If you knew what I know, it would all make perfect sense. think about it- everyone who has been interviewed has said and keep saying " He was very PRIVATE, Respect his privacy" etc. If any one has any questions as to what I am speaking of, feel free to hit me up.

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warhorse said:

Ok, Im sure this is going to ruffle some feathers, and Im sure it will shake up a few folks, but I have to put this out there- everyone has the right to this information- what you choose to do with it...is up to YOU.

WHAT IF, Prince isnt "dead", what if he just "dissappeared?" He said once as far as his death, thats what he wanted to do...?

I am 99% certain that he did not physically die, but he went private. People do it all the time- its called the witness protection program. After watching numerous videos of past interviews, and reading many of his song lyrics, I have come to believe that he is in fact, not physically dead, but now a private American national citizen.

If you know anything about him, you will know that he was a lover of knowledge. In the last interview he did w/ Tavis Smiley, he spoke about chemtrails, and said he listened to Dick gregory, and when he found out there were 8 presidents before Washington..." after watching that interview I knew he was on the trail, but i didnt know how far down the rabbit hole he had gone, so I set to digging some more. the big clue was the name change. he was on the right track, but all he had to do was change it from the ALL CAPITAL LETTER legal fiction to the upper/lower proper name. Some of you will understand this and some wont, but Ill summarize: Look at your drivers license and every bill you get fromt the state- its in all capital letters, most dont notice or think anything of it..well it IS important. the all capital letter name is a DEAD legal fiction. It is the only way the state can do business with you- since the state only exists on paper- it is also a legal fiction. legal fictions cannot do business with the living man/woman. If he had changed his name back to the proper "style" he wouldve no longer been under the jurisdiction of the state. he wouldve returned to "the kingdon of God" we are all figuratively living in "Hell" and there IS a definition for Hell in blacks Law dictionary it is: " the name formerly given to a place under neath the exchequers' chambers, where the Kings debtors were confined" We are all debt slaves. Prince knew this when he fought with the record companies. If he had changed his name BACK to the proper style, he wouldve restored his status as the living man. As far as the legal system is concerned in this country, we are all infant decedents until we correct the record : http://thelawdictionary.o...diminutio/ I tink Prince figured it out and he went private. I have been studying law and history for 9 years now and If you knew what O know, it would all make perfect snese. think about it- everyone who has been interviewed has said and keep saying " He was very PRIVATE, Respect his privacy" etc. If any one has any questions as to what I am speaking of, feel free to hit me up.

I understood it is severely illegal. But now I've read somewhere that it may not be. Either way he ain't going to be around to bother us so it really doesn't matter. Nice thought of him watching from afar, though.

I think he went private and chose to retire for whatever reason. I think it would be difficult for him to make the decision to not perform concerts anymore but he doesn't need the income from it and can bank so much from releasing material from the vault. Two of his employees were on vacation during the time of his "death" and the whole story doesn't seem to make a lot of sense like the lack of a will, the cremation so soon afterwards. I just find the whole thing hard to believe and don't believe much of what's in the media anyway. Maybe he got tired of all the hassle that goes along with being a celebrity and just needed to live his own life away from the prying eyes. It's also hard to believe that the pic posted with him face down with "Chocolate Overdose" on his instagram is a coincidence plus him telling fans don't waste your prayers on me for a few more days seems more than a little odd. I could continue to list other reasons why I believe what I do but there's really no reason to.

Yeah, this has been/is being discussed ad nauseum.

Autopsy: http://prince.org/msg/7/426295

Death: http://prince.org/msg/7/423318

Absurd shit: http://prince.org/msg/7/422464

even though i think of this as a valid topic for discussion, please be warned that this thread will be locked. the moderators here are not tolerant of speculative viewpoints and they are biased against anything that they can label 'conspiracy'.

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which IS ironic when you remember how prince was about being open minded on various topics, including so-called "conspiracy theories". of all places in the world for this kind of discussion, one would think this website would be it. but noooooo....

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anyway, this theory that prince is alive and well really appeals to me because i would love the world more if he were still in it. i admit this is a bias which inclines me toward considering this theory.

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for arguments' sake i could totally see him do this. thie theme of him killing versions of himself off is frequently present in his art. he drew a blueprint for kind of "disappearing" - or morphing into a new existence - in song lyrics and videos.

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moreover there are undeniable coincidences such as the specific date of april 21, the specific designs in his instagram posts, all and more could be interpreted as hints and clues.

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again, keeping in mind the preferential bias of what we are considering, i'd be glad if he were alive and well and finally enjoying a low key anonymity and savoring privacy. and, healing.

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O.K. Let's assume your hypothesis is accurate. If so, EVERYONE would have to be in on the coverup, right, including the local police and the feds, right? Am I missing something? I like to keep an open mind, but this theory presents more questions than answers for me.

suomynona said:

Yeah, this has been/is being discussed ad nauseum.

Autopsy: http://prince.org/msg/7/426295

Death: http://prince.org/msg/7/423318

Absurd shit: http://prince.org/msg/7/422464

You're keeping on top of this stuff aren't you?

Grog said:

O.K. Let's assume your hypothesis is accurate. If so, EVERYONE would have to be in on the coverup, right, including the local police and the feds, right? Am I missing something? I like to keep an open mind, but this theory presents more questions than answers for me.

purely for argument's sake: many celebrities have body doubles and employ them as decoys and whatnot. what if prince actually did check into treatment while his body double made a point of being seen like business as usual to keep TMZ away, spying on the imposter, and the body double actually died?

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XxAxX said:

avajane said:

XxAxX said:

purely for argument's sake: many celebrities have body doubles and employ them as decoys and whatnot. what if prince actually did check into treatment while his body double made a point of being seen like business as usual to keep TMZ away, spying on the imposter, and the body double actually died?

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i know. it's fantasy. these days i find fantasy much more appealing than actually fully embracing a reality where prince isn't here. this way, there's a teeny little gleam of.... what if?

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one of the people who found him was a stranger who also called it in, which is odd. i mean, if there happened to be a conspiracy that would be the best way for the mistake to be perpetuated.... three people found hin, two were too distraught to use a phone, and the third had never seen prince before. would the sheriff and medical examiner have known better either? what would miss marple say?

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avajane said:

XxAxX said:

purely for argument's sake: many celebrities have body doubles and employ them as decoys and whatnot. what if prince actually did check into treatment while his body double made a point of being seen like business as usual to keep TMZ away, spying on the imposter, and the body double actually died?

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Oh, she hasn't got started yet.

morningsong said:

avajane said:

XxAxX said:

Oh, she hasn't got started yet.

he ain't dead. he just can't be

morningsong said:

avajane said:

XxAxX said:

Oh, she hasn't got started yet.

and ps: some people like my stories

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

Oh, she hasn't got started yet.

he ain't dead. he just can't be

Trust, I know how you feel.



Even though I still refuse to go down that rabbit hole.

I cant deal with the thought of this - it would be cruel of him to do this to fans and friends alike - seeing poor Stevie Wonder in tears over his death - nope - Prince would not do that - no way. This is a horrible thread.

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

he ain't dead. he just can't be

Trust, I know how you feel.



Even though I still refuse to go down that rabbit hole.

i prefer to think of it as a realm of infinite quantum possibilities.

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

Trust, I know how you feel.



Even though I still refuse to go down that rabbit hole.

i prefer to think of it as a realm of infinite quantum possibilities.

Sounds good to me, I like the idea of infinite possibilities (quantum or not) . He's probably listening to a version of Purple Rain we've never heard while reading this thread.

ok, lets look at a few other points:

He was a devout JW, very spiritual and the reason he quit signing autographs years ago, he saw it as idolitry. I think as he progressed in his "journey of enlightenment" he became more and more uncomfortable with the "adoring public" placing him on a pedestal. He was always very guarded and didnt like any woman he was seeing to be flaunting him to her friends. In one interview he said there were "several vaults" its very possible that he will still be recording/releasing music for another 40 years, just not here...he had multiple residences Spain, Toronto etc he couldve had recording studios in any of them, that part is a no brainer. i think he just felt it was time to "leave on a good note" Damaris said, " for the past couple of years, he has been doing what HE wanted to do...' I think thats what he wanted- to just disappear and go on about his life, without all the fanfare.

LifeisGood said:

XxAxX said:

i prefer to think of it as a realm of infinite quantum possibilities.

Sounds good to me, I like the idea of infinite possibilities (quantum or not) . He's probably listening to a version of Purple Rain we've never heard while reading this thread.

love it. cheers me up immensely. maybe he will pop up again in another persona, tipping us a wink and nod with his video which reminds us of.... can it be...?

warhorse said:

ok, lets look at a few other points:

He was a devout JW, very spiritual and the reason he quit signing autographs years ago, he saw it as idolitry. I think as he progressed in his "journey of enlightenment" he became more and more uncomfortable with the "adoring public" placing him on a pedestal. He was always very guarded and didnt like any woman he was seeing to be flaunting him to her friends. In one interview he said there were "several vaults" its very possible that he will still be recording/releasing music for another 40 years, just not here...he had multiple residences Spain, Toronto etc he couldve had recording studios in any of them, that part is a no brainer. i think he just felt it was time to "leave on a good note" Damaris said, " for the past couple of years, he has been doing what HE wanted to do...' I think thats what he wanted- to just disappear and go on about his life, without all the fanfare.

Yep, been through all that.


They are not carting me away in a strait jacket somewhere. Nope. He's transitioned and that's that. (I feel guilty for using a certain couple of words after listening to Comeback so transitions my new word now)

morningsong said:

warhorse said:

ok, lets look at a few other points:

He was a devout JW, very spiritual and the reason he quit signing autographs years ago, he saw it as idolitry. I think as he progressed in his "journey of enlightenment" he became more and more uncomfortable with the "adoring public" placing him on a pedestal. He was always very guarded and didnt like any woman he was seeing to be flaunting him to her friends. In one interview he said there were "several vaults" its very possible that he will still be recording/releasing music for another 40 years, just not here...he had multiple residences Spain, Toronto etc he couldve had recording studios in any of them, that part is a no brainer. i think he just felt it was time to "leave on a good note" Damaris said, " for the past couple of years, he has been doing what HE wanted to do...' I think thats what he wanted- to just disappear and go on about his life, without all the fanfare.

Yep, been through all that.


They are not carting me away in a strait jacket somewhere. Nope. He's transitioned and that's that. (I feel guilty for using a certain couple of words after listening to Comeback so transitions my new word now)

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nothing wrong with just talking about a theory. one can talk about an new idea without investing oneself in or committing oneself to said theory, it is just discussion and exploration of an idea. nothing wrong with that

So glad after a long day at work, I was able to help cheer someone up and if looking at th whole thing in this way helps than what harm is it doing? I also thought it was really weird how Sheila E. on one of the Access Hollywood interivews said, "We pretty much know what's going on" when asked what happened to him. Also, the interview with Damaris two days later was surprisingly unemotional because she probably just talked to him on the phone shortly before then or at least knew what was really going on. She had zero emotion when talking about the whole thing and had been spending a fair amount of time with him it seems. I think it's his perogative if he decided all the publicity was too much for him.

and just for arguments sake? ANYone can go private. whats the upside? well lets see..you are no longer under the jurisdiction of the Federal Govt, IE: no taxes, no, licenses, no fees, and the feds' 60 million codes, acts, statutes etc. DO NOT apply to you. you have one law: DO NO HARM. Ive done the name change and am currently noticing the feds that i am renouncing my U.S. citizenship for a private American National. I am no longer lost at sea, dead legal fiction I am a woman on the land.

LifeisGood said:

So glad after a long day at work, I was able to help cheer someone up and if looking at th whole thing in this way helps than what harm is it doing? I also thought it was really weird how Sheila E. on one of the Access Hollywood interivews said, "We pretty much know what's going on" when asked what happened to him. Also, the interview with Damaris two days later was surprisingly unemotional because she probably just talked to him on the phone shortly before then or at least knew what was really going on. She had zero emotion when talking about the whole thing and had been spending a fair amount of time with him it seems. I think it's his perogative if he decided all the publicity was too much for him.

exactly! how can anyone who allegedly was so close to him not have lost it in that interview? I couldnt have held it together i know that for sure, and that chick was as cool as a cucumber...ans for sheila yep another clue, and I never say any indication of Tyka crying, she looked rather composed, the clues are all there,if you choose to see them.

RaspberryKiren said:

Ok, I do not for one minute believe that he is still alive. Sadly. I wish he was. But just for arguments sake, I guess the lack of a will is further 'evidence'? What do you think he planned there? ... Yes I admit it, I clicked on the thread and now I'm being sucked in by it ... But it's quite nice to think for a few minutes that he's still alive in some sort of alternate reality - albeit one that, to me anyway, does not exist

think of it as we are writing a graphic novel/fanzine and this alternate reality has splintered off.

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yes, by not leaving a will, he would make it a lengthy, difficult process for anyone trying to sort out his estate. furthermore, he could easily have transferred assets to various holding cvompanies and set himself up for a new life.

You really should chaneg the title of this thread. Try "For the "out of their mind" thinkers...