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Reply #180 posted 05/17/16 9:48pm

Linn4days

Thread started 09/26/02 12:27pm

Sly

IS THE APOLLO ANY GOOD?!

Is the Apollo a good venue. I think i've got pretty crap ticketa, and i'm worried my seats will ruin it.

Also, what are the acoustics/

Reply #1 posted 09/26/02 12:40pm

Mr7

I've been told by a friend of a friend that the Apollo is an excellent venue with superb acoustics.

I think his exact phrase was that 'you've never seen an Artist until you've seen them at the Apollo'.

Reply #2 posted 09/26/02 12:46pm

Sly

Mr7 said:

I've been told by a friend of a friend that the Apollo is an excellent venue with superb acoustics.

I think his exact phrase was that 'you've never seen an Artist until you've seen them at the Apollo'.




r u serious?! i don't know if you're taking the piss, but if you're aren't then thankyou!

Reply #3 posted 09/26/02 12:52pm

Malloy

Mr7 said:

I've been told by a friend of a friend that the Apollo is an excellent venue with superb acoustics.

I think his exact phrase was that 'you've never seen an Artist until you've seen them at the Apollo'.


It used to be a cinema so its its going to sound pretty good. However, I was there a couple of years ago and they kept telling us to sit down! Sit down for a Prince gig? I think not.

Reply #4 posted 09/26/02 12:56pm

Sly

Malloy said:

Mr7 said:

I've been told by a friend of a friend that the Apollo is an excellent venue with superb acoustics.

I think his exact phrase was that 'you've never seen an Artist until you've seen them at the Apollo'.


It used to be a cinema so its its going to sound pretty good. However, I was there a couple of years ago and they kept telling us to sit down! Sit down for a Prince gig? I think not.


if it use to be a cinema, then chance are the views from the back will be ok. doesn't it?!

Reply #5 posted 09/26/02 2:11pm

dewmass

Prince is there, I would happily see Prince in any two bit, working mens club. Who cares? Even if its a complete dump, something I doubt, at least Prince is there. And in only a few days time as well. Even if you're seats aren't great, its only a small venue, so they won't be bad.
"Always look on the bright side of life"

Reply #6 posted 09/26/02 2:52pm

GoldiesParade

Does the Apollo have a curfew?

Reply #7 posted 09/26/02 11:39pm

Gav

To answer a few questions :

1) The acoustics are great, as an old cinema its a solid old place and I've never had bad sound there despite going to tons of gigs there (Including Morris Day in '88 and The Time in '90)

2) The views great from the majority of places. Its not brilliant from the back of the circle (the stalls is fine) but a million times better than anything you'd see from anywhere in Wembley Arena past blocks A&B !

3) As with most London venues in built up areas, they have an 11.00pm curfew for artists, this is also to allow dispersing of the crowd by public transport. Those of us in London know how much of a pain in the arse it is to get home after the tubes stop !

4) STOP PANICKING AND JUST ENJOY THE SHOWS, YOU HAVE A TICKET - FEEL GRATEFUL !!!

Gav smile

Reply #8 posted 09/27/02 1:58am

nuthinbuttamuffin

The Apollo has been chosen by artists 4 years because of the acoustics.

Some big names have played there. Don't 4get thet it was at the Hammersmith Apollo the David Bowie famously killed off Ziggy Stardust!

Reply #9 posted 09/27/02 2:00am

nuthinbuttamuffin

The Apollo has been chosen by artists 4 years because of the acoustics.

Some big names have played there. Don't 4get thet it was at the Hammersmith Apollo the David Bowie famously killed off Ziggy Stardust!

Reply #10 posted 09/27/02 2:00am

nuthinbuttamuffin

Whoops... sorry!

Reply #11 posted 09/27/02 2:14am

rosiegaines

All seats are great because it's a small venue

Reply #12 posted 09/27/02 7:09am

mattj

rosiegaines said:

All seats are great because it's a small venue



The follow link is a seating plan for Hammersmith http://www.albemarle-lond...hseat.html

Reply #13 posted 09/27/02 3:36pm

TheEnglishGent

Gav said:

To answer a few questions :

1) The acoustics are great, as an old cinema its a solid old place and I've never had bad sound there despite going to tons of gigs there (Including Morris Day in '88 and The Time in '90)

2) The views great from the majority of places. Its not brilliant from the back of the circle (the stalls is fine) but a million times better than anything you'd see from anywhere in Wembley Arena past blocks A&B !

3) As with most London venues in built up areas, they have an 11.00pm curfew for artists, this is also to allow dispersing of the crowd by public transport. Those of us in London know how much of a pain in the arse it is to get home after the tubes stop !

4) STOP PANICKING AND JUST ENJOY THE SHOWS, YOU HAVE A TICKET - FEEL GRATEFUL !!!

Gav smile



Gav, what time do the tubes stop running, then when do they start again?

Reply #14 posted 10/02/02 7:17am

doc

tubes stop running around midnight & start again about 6 in the morning

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Reply #181 posted 05/17/16 9:53pm

Linn4days

Thread started 10/13/02 7:34am

Prendy

How many NPGMC members?

I have yet 2 join the Music Club but will do so soon. I just wondered how many members it has worldwide. Does anyone know?

Reply #1 posted 10/13/02 7:58am

Mr7

I have heard 50,000. But that is unconfirmed.

During Year One Prince made an internet record when over 25,000 members were on-line trying to download 'The Rainbow Children'.

Therfore 25,000 plus is a good estimate.

Reply #2 posted 10/13/02 9:24am

TheEnglishGent

Mr7 said:

I have heard 50,000. But that is unconfirmed.

During Year One Prince made an internet record when over 25,000 members were on-line trying to download 'The Rainbow Children'.

Therfore 25,000 plus is a good estimate.


I thought it was 15,000 trying to d/load TRC last year, but I may be wrong.

Reply #3 posted 10/13/02 9:55am

Heavenly

I heard about 2-3 people, but I'm not sure, maybe just 1.

Reply #4 posted 10/13/02 11:13am

FlyingCloudPassenger

I don't think it's that many really.

I don't believe his numbers.

Maybe a few hundred.

AND less next year after this is really turning out to be a tour sham and with all those fan lawsuits.

Reply #5 posted 10/13/02 11:21am

langebleu

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FlyingCloudPassenger said:

AND less next year after this is really turning out to be a tour sham
In what way is the tour a sham???

Reply #6 posted 10/13/02 12:55pm

Mr7

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I don't think it's that many really.

I don't believe his numbers.

Maybe a few hundred.

AND less next year after this is really turning out to be a tour sham and with all those fan lawsuits.



There were well over 200 members at each of the London shows. On Saturday there were 18 rows in 3 blocks.

Don't be so pathetic. If NPGMC had that few numbers it would not exist.

Reply #7 posted 10/13/02 1:14pm

purpledoveuk

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!

I have lost all of my YEAR 1 NPGMC Video files...does anyone know where I can get them from. I have contacted the club but they are unable to help.


Does anyone else think that the NPGMC concert ticket system stinks...it used to be that all members got a chance to get tickets - not just a few people bunking of work buying up tickets to evry gig. I was upstair at the London Apollo and was a little hurt when Prince had the front rows singing "join the club" in our direction. Maybe he thought that the only members in the house were down the front..not true Princey.As Ticketmaster kept denying there was a show on the 5th I was lucky to get tickets at all...it wasnt until the 4th time i got through and spoke to a manager that they would actually sell me tickets for the 5th - suspicious or what!!!

Reply #8 posted 10/13/02 1:17pm

PurpleLove7

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i lost all my VIDEO files also when i had 2 change my HardDrive sad

Reply #9 posted 10/13/02 7:31pm

Sdldawn

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I don't think it's that many really.

I don't believe his numbers.

Maybe a few hundred.

AND less next year after this is really turning out to be a tour sham and with all those fan lawsuits.


HAHA Few Hundred? eye think its a tad bit more than that.. hopefully u were joking.

and yes, it will increase very much so next year, eye believe it will.. eye have come 2 the conclusion, that its pretty much okay, if eye dont have EVERYTHING he has, its all good if he releases something in stores every year, or other year.. its all good

Reply #10 posted 10/13/02 7:48pm

Doozer

There were well over 100 members in line at the Houston TX concert in April, so I'm sure there are a large number of members worldwide. If you figure, on average, 100 to 150 members at each of the cities ONA has visited, that alone would probably give you 2500-3000 members.

Only the cool ones hang out here, tho'. smile

Reply #11 posted 10/14/02 3:42am

toejam

A friend of mine and I are both members from Australia. We think we are the only people in Brisbane who actually listen to Prince consistantly. He was fairly big in '92 when he toured here, but since then, he seems to have fanished from the Australian market. Usually the only albums you can buy here are Purple Rain & Diamonds & Pearls! I had to order the Rainbow Children in from the US and it cost me US$27. I wouldn't think there would be too many members outside the US and UK.

Reply #12 posted 10/14/02 4:55am

Mr7

There are a considerable number of supporters/members outside the UK and the US.

Prince played to over 7,000 people in Frankfurt last night.

The tickets for some of the European dates sold out in record times. That news has been reported on this very site.

In addition 'The Rainbow Children' fared well in Japan and 'The Last December' was highly rated in terms of radio airplay.

If support wasn't great outside of the US and UK, Prince would not be able to tour in Europe and Japan.

Reply #13 posted 10/15/02 8:05am

Persian

I read in one paper that he has 500,000 members... but that can't be right ... can it?
500,000 x $100 === $50,000,000 ...
it was in a uk broadsheet.. but 4 the life of me i cant remember which one
I think it must have been a misprint 50,000 sounds right

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Reply #182 posted 05/17/16 9:57pm

Linn4days

Thread started 01/27/06 6:36pm

Purplerain7772
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I know why o(+> became a JW

He did it 2 respect his mother.

Before she died in her last will she wanted her son2 become a Jehovah's witness like her and P's father.
Larry Graham just showed P how to b a JW

So basically prince did not have a choice. SO Sad and that is why is music isn't as so good as it was b4 I think that the congregation rules say that music that he used 2 make it not allowed. so basically all of it is out of the love of his mother.

i don't have a source i asked my aunt why p became a JW because she is as much as a prince fan as i am so she said she would look up some interview and found this info and email it 2 me

[Flame snipped - BananaCologne]
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hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
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Reply #1 posted 01/27/06 10:48pm

MickG

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Purplerain7772001 said:

He did it 2 respect his mother.

Before she died in her last will she wanted her son2 become a Jehovah's witness like her and P's father.
Larry Graham just showed P how to b a JW

So basically prince did not have a choice. SO Sad and that is why is music isn't as so good as it was b4 I think that the congregation rules say that music that he used 2 make it not allowed. so basically all of it is out of the love of his mother.


that's just a stupid guess.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #2 posted 01/27/06 10:49pm

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[Flame snipped - BananaCologne]
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #3 posted 01/27/06 10:53pm

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Reply #4 posted 01/27/06 10:53pm

TheTigerWoman

lollollollollollollollollol
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/06 1:35am

MikeMatronik

prince became a JW because he had a vision and was told not 2 release the High Album cool
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Reply #6 posted 01/28/06 1:44am

tane1976

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It was that crazy ass Larry Graham thats to blame, he talked him into that shit, thats what changed him from dirty mind Prince to the god fearing over polite spectre we have today.
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Reply #7 posted 01/28/06 2:48am

calldapplwonde
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MickG said:

[Flame snipped - BananaCologne].



Fuck, that was cruel. neutral

And I think the reasons for this are various, there's not ONE reason.
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Reply #8 posted 01/28/06 5:18am

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nutty
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Reply #9 posted 01/28/06 6:14am

thedoorkeeper

Purplerain7772001 said:

He did it 2 respect his mother.

Before she died in her last will she wanted her son2 become a Jehovah's witness like her and P's father.


Whats your source for this inside info?
Have you seen the will?
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Reply #10 posted 01/28/06 6:23am

Ifsixwuz9

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Purplerain7772001 said:

He did it 2 respect his mother.

Before she died in her last will she wanted her son2 become a Jehovah's witness like her and P's father.
Larry Graham just showed P how to b a JW

So basically prince did not have a choice. SO Sad and that is why is music isn't as so good as it was b4 I think that the congregation rules say that music that he used 2 make it not allowed. so basically all of it is out of the love of his mother.



confused Onk this is just silly. Prince's decision to become a Witness had zero to do with his making of crappy music. He'd made his fare share of inferior tracks before then.
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Reply #11 posted 01/28/06 7:14am

Purplerain7772
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MickG said:

that's just a stupid guess.


i dont see u with any better ideas
hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
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Reply #12 posted 01/28/06 7:15am

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the reply was from prince mouth so b4 any of yall say that it is a stupid guess u come up with any other reason
hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
Purplerain7772001
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Reply #13 posted 01/28/06 7:44am

Mr7

Your information is incorrect.

Prince's Mother was never a Jehovah's Witnesses, she was a Baptist. Her funeral was held at a Baptist Church.

Prince was raised a Seventh Day Adventist.

Prince studied the Bible with Larry Graham for many years (starting around 1997/98) before his baptism as a Jehovah's Witness.

It was his personal choice, not a request of his Mother.

The information you are posting here originates from a tabloid and is fabricated.

Peace
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Reply #183 posted 05/17/16 10:01pm

Linn4days

Reply #30 posted 01/29/06 7:28pm

PlanetMe

Aerogram said:

It all started when one night, long ago, Mayte ordered some not totally veggie take-out behind Prince's back. When she heard knocking at the door, she rushed to open it herself, only to discover two well-dressed individuals instead of an all-dressed pizza. Before she had time to think, the two strangers were inside, holding a WatchTower. At that moment, Prince walked into the room and took a look at the magazine. Normally, he'd call security right away but on that occasion he just said "impressive!" and asked for a copy to check who was the art director. "Maybe I'll let him design the cover for my next album, New Power Soul".



lol and there you have it! the best story of why prince became a JW yet!! and as easily believable as what was posted by purplerain777blahblahblah.


thumbs up!
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Reply #31 posted 01/29/06 9:50pm

tmo1965

Mr. 7 is correct that Prince's mother was a Baptist. I saw her obituary and the funeral was held in a Baptist church. But, I remember seeing somewhere that he was raised a Methodist.
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Reply #32 posted 01/30/06 2:00am

Mr7

Purplerain7772001 said:

once again poeple pay attention please it was email 2 me i dont know where it came from or when it happened and once it may b half true what other reason could u think of besides larry graham

and it may b a lie but if i hear princes voice and see his face speaking and his mouth saying the exact words that i hear i am going 2 stick w/ it and for all u people who think it isn't true why r u so sure it's NOT true answer that question

HA HA HA Bitches !!!!!

Second and last WHEN THE FUCK DOES THE NEWS EVER TELL THE TRUTH OR WHOLE ENTIRE TRUTH


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Exactly.

And your entire story comes from a tabloid news report.


Prince's mother was a Baptist. She had a Baptist funeral in a Baptist Church.

You have heard nothing from Prince directly. And if you have, what have you got to prove here?

Your foul language and name-calling just about shows what your level of intelligence and integrity is.

Peace
Mr7
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Reply #184 posted 05/17/16 10:05pm

Linn4days

Thread started 08/14/03 8:28am

lildragon

Prince's Album Sales

Prince has sold over 90 million albums world wide including singles and albums.. Here is the list of his album sales since 2003.. sources off nielson soundscan billboard uptown and prince articles and websites...
For You- 132,000
Prince- 1.25 million
Dirty Mind- 1.3 million
Controversy- 1.4 million
1999- 5.3 million
Purple Rain- 16.9 million
Around The World In A Day- 3.3 million
Parade-4.2 million
Sign O The Times- 4 million
Lovesexy- 1.2 million
Batman- 4.7 million
Grafitti Bridge- 1.2 million
Diamonds and Pearls- 6.5 million
0(+>- 2.9 million
The Hits\B sides- 3.2 million
Come- 489,067
Black Album- 388,907
Beautiful Epxerience- 721,000
Gold Experience- 808,997
Girl 6- 257,087
Chaos and Disorder- 578,986
Emancipation- 2.3 million
N.P.S.- 288,933
Crystall Ball- 121,000
The Vault- 129,000
Rave Un 2 The Joy Fantastic- 613,001
Rainbow Children- 136,022
Very Best of Prince- 1 million
One Night Alone Live - 188,002
NEWS- 80,044 (so far)
ALL WORLD WIDE TOTAL SALES
[This message was edited Thu Aug 14 8:31:46 PDT 2003 by lildragon]
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Reply #1 posted 08/14/03 8:48am

COMON

Interesting, very interesting.
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Reply #2 posted 08/14/03 9:03am

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Yeah, thanks
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Reply #3 posted 08/14/03 9:11am

imnotsayinthis
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look at the money made from ona...live! he made over 9 million for that...
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Reply #4 posted 08/14/03 11:01am

WonHungLo

People actually bought THE VAULT??
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Reply #5 posted 08/14/03 11:05am

summerdawn

thanks for the info. i was surprised to see that many copies of 'emancipation' were bought. surprised at the (IMO) small # of prince and Gold Exp.
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Reply #6 posted 08/14/03 11:12am

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WonHungLo said:

People actually bought THE VAULT??


whistling
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Reply #7 posted 08/14/03 11:16am

DJ506

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I love "The Vault". shrug
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Reply #8 posted 08/14/03 11:25am

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the vault is the best album released by prince or warners since the gold experience , by far better than emancipation , the 2 million sales for emancipation include the 1.9 million that are lying in bargain bins in every asda supermarket in the u.k priced at £3.49. that just over a £1 per disc , considering the quality of the tracks even at a £1 its overpriced...the vault rules...try playing when the lights go down on a quality hi fi loud and listen to the musicianship...pure quality.
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Reply #9 posted 08/14/03 11:27am

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DJ506 said:

I love "The Vault". shrug


me too. Old Friends 4 Sale is on it. Not to mention 5 Women. as one person put it, it's a master class in popular music.
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Reply #10 posted 08/14/03 11:30am

iloveheineken

Thank U 4 the info Little D
This is not music this is a trip.
Show of hands how many r drunk
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Reply #11 posted 08/14/03 11:41am

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it keeps decreasing...and diamond&perls is a 6 million copies album???
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Reply #12 posted 08/14/03 11:51am

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hazel said:

it keeps decreasing...and diamond&perls is a 6 million copies album???


Happens to be he isn't popular anymore, it aint rocket science!

(1 of the 129,000 worldwide who bought the Vault and proud of it!!) smile
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Reply #13 posted 08/14/03 12:00pm

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summerdawn said:

thanks for the info. i was surprised to see that many copies of 'emancipation' were bought. surprised at the (IMO) small # of prince and Gold Exp.


i read somewhere that because Emancipation was a 3cd album they multiplied each album sold by 3 thus giving it such a high number.700,000 sounds just about right to me.
omg

but if that were true then surely Crystal Ball would have a similiar figure if not higher?
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Reply #14 posted 08/15/03 11:05am

Dippydippydope

why doesn't this list include Rave In2? Am I the only one with it?
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Reply #15 posted 08/15/03 11:08am

imnotsayinthis
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muirdo said:

summerdawn said:

thanks for the info. i was surprised to see that many copies of 'emancipation' were bought. surprised at the (IMO) small # of prince and Gold Exp.


i read somewhere that because Emancipation was a 3cd album they multiplied each album sold by 3 thus giving it such a high number.700,000 sounds just about right to me.
omg

but if that were true then surely Crystal Ball would have a similiar figure if not higher?

thats right, muirdo, i read that too. disc sets get counted by how many discs were in the set...seems sketchy but it's true.
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Reply #16 posted 08/15/03 11:15am

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Dippydippydope said:

why doesn't this list include Rave In2? Am I the only one with it?


what are u talking about? it was listed as:
Rave Un 2 The Joy Fantastic- 613,001
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Reply #17 posted 08/15/03 11:25am

thedoorkeeper

Prince's audience has shrunk down to the level of his early days. He gained his freedom from Warner Bros but basically he has to start over & rebuild an audience.
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Reply #18 posted 08/15/03 12:09pm

summerdawn

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

muirdo said:

summerdawn said:

thanks for the info. i was surprised to see that many copies of 'emancipation' were bought. surprised at the (IMO) small # of prince and Gold Exp.


i read somewhere that because Emancipation was a 3cd album they multiplied each album sold by 3 thus giving it such a high number.700,000 sounds just about right to me.
omg

but if that were true then surely Crystal Ball would have a similiar figure if not higher?

thats right, muirdo, i read that too. disc sets get counted by how many discs were in the set...seems sketchy but it's true.


thanks for the info. it does sound about right now that you threw that in there. smile
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Reply #19 posted 08/15/03 12:51pm

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It's important to distinguish between sales and certifications when we're having this discussion.

The RIAA issues Gold/Platinum certifications based on numbers shipped to retailers while Soundscan tracks copies actually sold to consumers.

I hope these are actual sales figures...they would be pretty good for Prince if true.

Peace, David
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Reply #20 posted 08/15/03 1:33pm

Mr7

I consider the sales of 'NEWS' at over 80,000 to be very good for an independent, instrumental album with no promotion. Judging by the sales registered so far, it could easily equal 'TRC'.

Comparing Prince's big budget releases with large companies supporting with his independent work is fruitless. It is in no way a barometer of his popularity as his recent albums have arrived with no promotional support and are not full of commercial 'chart-ready' material.

Does anyone seriously believe that Prince wanted or expected to have major commercial successes with 'The Rainbow Children' and 'News', an album of 14 minute instrumental tracks?

Prince is now an independent artist with independent sales figures. The sooner people accept this, the better.

Prince did not 'fall' from anywhere. He chose an alternative route.

A path which values artistic freedom and expression more than sales figures.
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Reply #185 posted 05/17/16 10:12pm

Linn4days

Thread started 05/16/04 12:18pm

ThePurplePeopleEater

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF PRINCE SOMEDAY WILL NEED A BLOOD TRANSFUSION!?!

Is our man going 2 die?

Reply #1 posted 05/16/04 12:20pm

IADOREHIM

do JW not accept blood transfusions or something?

Reply #2 posted 05/16/04 12:22pm

ThePurplePeopleEater

Taking blood into the body through mouth or veins violates God’s laws.
Or JW's laws!

Reply #3 posted 05/16/04 12:24pm

gemini13

Trust me, if he knew he was going to die, he'd get a transfusion.

He's not stupid. wink

Reply #4 posted 05/16/04 1:34pm

Mr7

There are many non-blood alternatives and surgeries in todays modern world.

With the risks of blood transfusions and the very recent (and past) cases of diseases being spread through them, many non-witness patients are requesting that blood not be used in their treatment.

There were some recent statistics that revealed that out of all the patients that refused blood, Jehovah's Witnesses were actually the minority.

Jehovah's Witness accept all types of medicine and greatly value God's gift of life, but they will not violate God's Biblical commands involving the use of blood.

Peace
Mr7
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Reply #186 posted 05/17/16 10:15pm

nursev

Looks like Mr7 was Prince and the Org gave him the blues lol thanks Linn for the post.

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Reply #187 posted 05/17/16 10:15pm

suomynona

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Not a glitch. Someone copied and pasted from 2004.

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Reply #188 posted 05/17/16 10:20pm

nursev

Wow he posted about his mom, record sales and JW's eek No Princebonics used either lol

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Reply #189 posted 05/17/16 10:21pm

Linn4days

Mr7

XxAxX said:

cborgman said:

is AWAKE a christian publication?



i thought so too from the thread title, but i think Mr7 means 'awake' as in 'intellectually aware, responsive'

the individuals quoted above are not all christians. wilde and galileo fought against rigid thought


You got it wink
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Reply #8 posted 04/28/06 7:52am

XxAxX

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Mr7 said:

XxAxX said:




i thought so too from the thread title, but i think Mr7 means 'awake' as in 'intellectually aware, responsive'

the individuals quoted above are not all christians. wilde and galileo fought against rigid thought


You got it wink



more quotes from Imelda then! thumbs up!
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Reply #190 posted 05/17/16 10:24pm

nursev

XxAxX talked to him....get the hell out lol

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Reply #191 posted 05/17/16 10:25pm

Linn4days

Reply #18 posted 03/14/05 1:52am

Mr7

Gav said:

I can't see a need for gratuitous swearing on any new material, however I do feel a little frustrated about this "changing lyrics" stuff.

On one hand, he's boasting about being succesful with a "hits" tour, however on the other he's changing lyrics, and even meaning of songs sometimes becuase of his new beliefs.

I feel he either needs to turn his back on the past or leave the past as it is and play the songs with their original meaning and lyrics - one or the other.


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He's 'boasting' about a succesful 'Hits' tour because his tour was the highest grossing tour last year.

That is fact, not conjecture.

The lyric alterations were minimal. They are his songs to do whatever he likes with. If people had been that bothered by these 'alterations' the tour would not have been such a massive hit.

I would certainly rather see Prince live with or without altered lyrics, than purchase over-priced, inflated 'fanzine' publications with numerous mistakes and pages missing. wink

Mr7
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Reply #192 posted 05/17/16 10:28pm

nursev

Child Prince wasnt taking no Prisoners falloff I mean the man said conjecture lol

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Reply #193 posted 05/17/16 10:32pm

Linn4days

Reply #30 posted 07/07/03 5:55pm

2freaky4church
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Yeaaa Deja, you saw the light..lol. hug
wildsign Wave your wildsigns high!! wildsign
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Reply #31 posted 07/07/03 6:01pm

lovebizzare

Bottomline: Prince was (is?) a very troubled, whiny, self-absourbed, chauvanistic (at times), spoiled brat with a ton of issues. In other words, he was (is?) a not-so-pleasant human being.
Would I want him as a friend, HELL NO!

Why y'all are acting like this now baffles me, didn't you guys know he was already like this?
[This message was edited Mon Jul 7 18:02:19 PDT 2003 by lovebizzare]
~KiKi
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Reply #32 posted 07/07/03 6:02pm

Handclapsfinga
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2freaky4church1 said:

Yeaaa Deja, you saw the light..lol. hug

i've seen the light waaay before this propahahndist shit you're muddlin through, kid...nod
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Reply #33 posted 07/07/03 6:26pm

lovebizzare

JIMMYNUTHIN said:

Well geez I dont know maybe u should go ask Andre Cymone or mabye perhaps Mark Brown.

that actually might be a good idea, Mark Brown is actually quite truthful about his time with Prince
~KiKi
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Reply #34 posted 07/07/03 6:31pm

DonRants

There are people who have suggested that if the book was not true that Prince would sue. Not true. It is the hardest thing for a celebrity to sue about something written and win. Also would you try to sue a lawyer??? In addition Hahn would have to be rather wealthy to make it worth Prince's expense and time. So from every angle a lawsuit would be a very bad idea. Hahn being a lawyer knows this. If Prince has good council they probably just advised him to ignore it and it will go away. Prince has not commented because its the best thing to do. Besides it is just more publicity for Prince.
Prince's music will last forever. Hahn's book will eventually go out of print or be recycled as toilet paper or both.
Truth is I would like to know more about Alex Hahn myself. What is his religion? Does he get a lot of attention from women/men/lovers or is he sexualy frustrated or is he totally satisfied in a monogamous relationship? Next time you read this book ask yourself what is the author really like? What are his beliefs? - Alex if you read this feel free to respond. I think this book and all books tell as much about their writers as they do about the subjects. Even our posts tell a lot about us.

Let me be clear I do not think Alex is a "bad person", but one has to think that for Alex to write such a book would be like Marscha Clark writing a book on OJ Simpson. In other words, I think when you read this book you have to look at it critically. Can someone who performed the duties as opposing council in a lawsuit really write an objective biograpy? . . . Is Hahn attempting to write an objective biography?

As for those who critisize Prince's womanizing. Prince never hid that he has a battle between the spiritual and the sexual. This is an internal battle many people (especially indiviuals with a high sex-drive) face if they have been raised in a judeo-christian tradition which traditionally denegrates sex and women and puts sexuality at odds which spirituality. Which I feel is one of its biggest conflicts. Not all religions share this view. I believe a person can be both spiritual and sexual... and not just in a monogamous/marital sense.
In the final analysis though, Hahn says he wrote this book because he had/has an interest in Prince. Hmmm. the fellow who shot John Lennon was by all accounts a big fan of Lennon and the Beatles. Does Hahn have an ax to grind and is attempting character assasination of his idol or is he just revealing what he believes to be the truth? You be the judge.
To All the Haters on the Internet
No more Candy 4 U
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Reply #35 posted 07/07/03 6:36pm

lovebizzare

DonRants said:

There are people who have suggested that if the book was not true that Prince would sue. Not true. It is the hardest thing for a celebrity to sue about something written and win. Also would you try to sue a lawyer??? In addition Hahn would have to be rather wealthy to make it worth Prince's expense and time. So from every angle a lawsuit would be a very bad idea. Hahn being a lawyer knows this. If Prince has good council they probably just advised him to ignore it and it will go away. Prince has not commented because its the best thing to do. Besides it is just more publicity for Prince.
Prince's music will last forever. Hahn's book will eventually go out of print or be recycled as toilet paper or both.
Truth is I would like to know more about Alex Hahn myself. What is his religion? Does he get a lot of attention from women/men/lovers or is he sexualy frustrated or is he totally satisfied in a monogamous relationship? Next time you read this book ask yourself what is the author really like? What are his beliefs? - Alex if you read this feel free to respond. I think this book and all books tell as much about their writers as they do about the subjects. Even our posts tell a lot about us.

Let me be clear I do not think Alex is a "bad person", but one has to think that for Alex to write such a book would be like Marscha Clark writing a book on OJ Simpson. In other words, I think when you read this book you have to look at it critically. Can someone who performed the duties as opposing council in a lawsuit really write an objective biograpy? . . . Is Hahn attempting to write an objective biography?

As for those who critisize Prince's womanizing. Prince never hid that he has a battle between the spiritual and the sexual. This is an internal battle many people (especially indiviuals with a high sex-drive) face if they have been raised in a judeo-christian tradition which traditionally denegrates sex and women and puts sexuality at odds which spirituality. Which I feel is one of its biggest conflicts. Not all religions share this view. I believe a person can be both spiritual and sexual... and not just in a monogamous/marital sense.
In the final analysis though, Hahn says he wrote this book because he had/has an interest in Prince. Hmmm. the fellow who shot John Lennon was by all accounts a big fan of Lennon and the Beatles. Does Hahn have an ax to grind and is attempting character assasination of his idol or is he just revealing what he believes to be the truth? You be the judge.

tears rolling down eyes..clapping beautiful
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Reply #36 posted 07/07/03 8:52pm

muleFunk

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DonRants "...like Marsha Clark writing a book about O.J. Simpson."

CLASSIC !

Hahn's credibility is shot when he reveals he was Uptown's lawyer.Even if his facts are 99% accurate,I would have trouble believing him.

I found out back in 1988 that Prince was sleeping with Shiela E,Cat,Sheena Easton,Anna Fantastic,Boni, and other unknowns.

I found out that Prince later got Troy Beyer(?) knocked up and she was later seen at a women's clinic in LA.

I found out Prince likes to drink.
I found out later that ...

Prince supported the Marva Collins school in Chicago.
Prince helped a family in St Paul after their home burned.
Helped out George Clinton when he NEEDED a hand.


There is good and bad in everyone.The defining moment will come in a persons life when they will choose to continue or stop and make amends.

Alex & Prince are probably hearing cha-ching right now while all we are hearing is these keyboard keys click.
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Reply #37 posted 07/07/03 11:36pm

madhouseman

Alex wrote a fairly accurate book. I think it is a rounded view of Prince. I don't understand how some people are shocked to find out that Prince can be a bit of a prick sometimes. Over the last few years, Alex was a hero to the community. He saved UPTOWN magazine from going under. UPTOWN is the longest running magazine about Prince EVER! It has run longer than Controversy, The PRince Family Newsletter and the NPG Mag!

UPTOWN doesn't sugarcoat issues like Controversy and NPG did, it reports them in a well written, well researched manner. Granted, UPTOWN had NOTHING to do with Alex's book, but he used some of the interviews that had been conducted for them. Personally, I wish he had used more quotes and focused more on the music, but I think it was a fairly insightful book and he seemed to be able to get more press than most of Prince's last few albums.

Prince has fallen, but he can get back up. There is no one that questions that his popularity isn't what it was. That was the meaning of the title. Maybe it was a poor choice to some, but there is no denying that Prince's popularity has drastically eroded.

I don't understand the Prince fans out there. Someone takes a great deal of time to research and write a book that they KNOW won't sell too many copies, and some people refuse to even read it before they complain? Go to the library. Check it out.

Just remember, Alex was/is a Godsend to UPTOWN. Without his help (for free), there would be no magazine. His work for UPTOWN made it possible for others (including Prince.org) to continue with little fear of Londell bringing down the hammer-either directly or indirectly.

Criticize the book, the typos, the innaccuracies, and the simple fuckups, but remember that Alex never expected to get rich on a book like this. It was written because the story was so entertaining, he wanted to let everyone know the full story as he knew it.
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Reply #38 posted 07/08/03 1:20am

JC

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Just
wait
til'
MAYTE
writes
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Reply #39 posted 07/08/03 3:04am

freakyfeet

madhouseman said:


Just remember, Alex was/is a Godsend to UPTOWN. Without his help (for free), there would be no magazine. His work for UPTOWN made it possible for others (including Prince.org) to continue with little fear of Londell bringing down the hammer-either directly or indirectly.

Criticize the book, the typos, the innaccuracies, and the simple fuckups, but remember that Alex never expected to get rich on a book like this. It was written because the story was so entertaining, he wanted to let everyone know the full story as he knew it.



Well said that man clapping

Another key point that some seem to be missing is that Alex is not just a random lawyer paid by Uptown. He was / is a genuine fan of prince's music who was an Uptown subscriber when he heard what was happening.

He then convinced his bosses to take the case on pro-bono. OK, he might have learned more about Prince in the time of the lawsuit but as fans any of us have the right to publish our own thoughts and findings.

Those of you on here who feel its in your rights to judge Alex there's an easy solution - MAKE THE EFFORT TO WRITE YOUR OWN BOOK ABOUT PRINCE !
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Reply #40 posted 07/08/03 3:04am

Mr7

If Prince sued he would give Hahn publicity. As it currently stands Hahn may well be capable legally, but he is a lousy writer and the general public couldn't care less about his 'little book'. Even the majority of the critics who reviewed the publication trashed it.

Rumours are notoriously difficult to verify. But even if Prince did claim to be 'religious' and slept with numerous women so what? Prince is married now and has chosen to be a Jehovah's Witness. Prior to that, he was studying the Bible and like many others was in a transitional phase between his former life and his new one. Besides, millions of Catholics and Protestants claim to be religious and commit adultery and fornication. No-one says anything about them.

Having stated that, its not about the man its about the music.

It certainly is not about some pimply, wanna-be writer who has a grudge.
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Reply #194 posted 05/17/16 10:33pm

nursev

I knew that damn BananaCologne was in there somewhere....his ass lol

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Reply #195 posted 05/17/16 10:34pm

artist76

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But you really think he'd ask us to vote for him in some random online poll Prince vs. MJ??? That's what one of the threads by "Mr7" is about. Really??

But, the thread started about quotes by "awakened" individuals is cool - would be nice to think that was him. But I'm skeptical.

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Reply #196 posted 05/17/16 10:35pm

nursev

He seemed to get upset when speaking about his religion though.

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Reply #197 posted 05/17/16 10:36pm

P2daP

nursev said:



PurpleMusic07 said:




nursev said:



eek eek




It's definitely not a glitch either as I was able to search my old profile, that I got locked out of, just fine. If a profile were deleted wouldn't any posts they made be deleted too? But I can search all of that profiles posts, like these -


http://prince.org/msg/7/169758?pr


http://prince.org/msg/7/51641?pr <<< dropping scripture!



this is him or TheWatcher profile which now has nothing there at all eek




I always wondered about TheWacther. My roommate at the time (2009), started discussing God, Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. with that person through org notes. She said the person was definitely knowagable on the subject. As a recall the poster showed up around the time of Lotus Flower. And on "No More Candy 4 U". There's the line "To all the haters on the Internet. Somebody's lookin' at you."
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Reply #198 posted 05/17/16 10:38pm

nursev

P2daP said:

nursev said:

this is him or TheWatcher profile which now has nothing there at all eek

I always wondered about TheWacther. My roommate at the time (2009), started discussing God, Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. with that person through org notes. She said the person was definitely knowagable on the subject. As a recall the poster showed up around the time of Lotus Flower. And on "No More Candy 4 U". There's the line "To all the haters on the Internet. Somebody's lookin' at you."

I remember that cuz I got org notes from TheWatcher too eek

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Reply #199 posted 05/17/16 10:38pm

Linn4days

Mr7

Officers Discover Sex-slave Cult

Officers discover sex-slave cult

A sex slavery cult based on a series of 1960s science fiction novels has been uncovered by police in Darlington.
Durham Police discovered the bizarre sect after raiding a home in the area, after receiving complaints that a woman was being held against her will.


But a spokesman said the Canadian was a willing participant and the other people involved were consenting adults.

The group, called Kaotians, follow the Chronicles of Gor novels which depict a society where women are dominated.

The 29-year-old woman is said to have voluntarily attended the sect after finding out about it over the internet.


The girls will do everything they are told when it comes to sex, but it is all voluntary and all safe.
Lee Thompson


She later contacted a friend in United States, who then contacted the police, saying she wanted to leave but couldn't as she had burnt her passport and return ticket.

But a police spokesman said upon arriving at the premises they did not find any evidence of "criminal offences".

'Desire to serve'

Police also investigated claims by a father in Essex his 18-year-old son had joined the sect. However police also found the teenager was at the property voluntarily and they had no grounds to get involved.

Lee Thompson, 31, says he is the "master" who trains the slaves at the Darlington address.

But he said everything the women are told to do, which includes cooking and cleaning, is "voluntary and safe".

"It works on the system that some women have a desire to serve," he told the Northern Echo newspaper.

He said: "Most people think it is a very sexual thing, but it is about every action that they make, they do it for their master.

"Saying that, the girls will do everything they are told when it comes to sex, but it is all voluntary and all safe."

Mr Thompson added: "I have been called sick but I don't think what I do is bad."

Mr Thompson said up to 350 followers regularly meet in pubs and clubs around the North East, in an area from Berwick to York.

Kaotians are a splinter group of the Goreans, which base their beliefs on novels written by American university professor John Norman.

The books are set on the quasi-medieval planet of Gor, which has a caste system and uses women as slaves.

There are an estimated 25,000 Goreans worldwide.



Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/4996410.stm

Published: 2006/05/19 05:08:54 GMT

© BBC MMVI

eekeekeek

Mr7

Reply #1 posted 05/19/06 6:28am

XxAxX

eek

Reply #2 posted 05/19/06 6:41am

NorthernLad

sigh...we Goreans are so misunderstood.

Reply #3 posted 05/19/06 8:19am

XxAxX

NorthernLad said:

sigh...we Goreans are so misunderstood.



giggle often mistaken for gonorrheans? *




*sorry.
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Reply #4 posted 05/19/06 8:42am

NorthernLad

XxAxX said:

NorthernLad said:

sigh...we Goreans are so misunderstood.



giggle often mistaken for gonorrheans? *




*sorry.
[Edited 5/19/06 8:20am]



whatEVAH. I take my penis-illan. It works wonders for infections! cool

Reply #5 posted 05/19/06 9:59am

sosgemini

this isnt a cult....its heaven.

ummm...oh, uhhh..

nevermind.

lurking

Reply #6 posted 05/19/06 10:05am

XxAxX

giggle yes. well, they aren't bibles but i can see why mr. norman's books would inspire a following.







Reply #7 posted 05/20/06 6:31am

Mr7

XxAxX said:

giggle yes. well, they aren't bibles but i can see why mr. norman's books would inspire a following.









***

I quite fancy joining myself now ... lol

Reply #8 posted 05/20/06 9:22am

TimeKeeper

If they like it, let em do it.

Reply #9 posted 05/22/06 6:26am

XxAxX

Mr7 said:

XxAxX said:

giggle yes. well, they aren't bibles but i can see why mr. norman's books would inspire a following.









***

I quite fancy joining myself now ... lol



biggrin the reverend edgar rice burroughs has also written some inspiring tomes:
http://www.princess.ne.jp/%7Eerb/pellucidar07tandem.jpg


eek EDITED FOR MODESTY'S SAKE eek
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Reply #200 posted 05/17/16 10:39pm

Linn4days

Thread started 09/16/02 6:37am

letsgocrazy

final tkts for Sat London show selling out now!

according to ticketmaster.co.uk, the only tickets remaining on general sale for the last remaining london prince show (the saturday), are on the very back row...this is your last chance non-members!

Reply #1 posted 09/16/02 6:39am

SquirrelMeat

letsgocrazy said:

according to ticketmaster.co.uk, the only tickets remaining on general sale for the last remaining london prince show (the saturday), are on the very back row...this is your last chance non-members!


And there was me thinking he might not sell out!

Nows its the hottest ticket in town. Hopefully it will remind Prince just how big he is in the UK.

Reply #2 posted 09/16/02 8:00am

eggy

Cant wait to feel the atmosphere in the place!

Reply #3 posted 09/16/02 10:36am

Mr7

Tickets on www.wayahead.com have already sold out for oct 3rd and 4th. Limited seating for oct 5th remains.

In fact Prince is the 'TOP SELLER' on www.wayahead.com. Check it out!
[This message was edited Mon Sep 16 10:37:39 PDT 2002 by Mr7]

Reply #4 posted 09/16/02 1:34pm

GoldiesParade

Ticket master has only the cheap seats left for all shows.

copyright © 1998-2016 prince.org. all rights reserved.

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Reply #201 posted 05/17/16 10:40pm

nursev

falloff weird ass stuff...yep it was Prince

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Reply #202 posted 05/17/16 10:41pm

Linn4days

Mr7

Larry Graham's No-Show At The Grammys ...

According to Billboard.com, Larry Graham had orignally been scheduled to perform, however he had fallen ill the day of the grammys.

Billboard states:

Joining guitarist Stone and Errico backstage, sans Sly, were original Family Stone members Cynthia Robinson (trumpet), Jerry Martini (sax) and Sly's sister Rose Banks (piano, vocals). Bassist Larry Graham was not on hand, having fallen ill the day of the show.



With thanks to housequake.

Reply #1 posted 02/11/06 3:42am

Gold319

Yeah, I noticed his no-show at the Grammys during the Sly Tribute!! sadsadsad

It would have been awesome seeing him there performing Everyday People with Sly and the other Performers!!! biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

The thing is when I saw everyone on stage performing Everyday People, I thought 2 myself " I am sick of this song!!!!LOL", having heard it a million times before when Prince has performed it with Larry!! lollollol

Reply #2 posted 02/11/06 3:49am

CalhounSq

I really want this tribute to put an end to that fucking song. I never, ever, EVER wanna hear it again mad Prince & Lil Lurry wore it the fuck out for me... Put that shit w/ 1999 - *RETIRED* dead

Reply #3 posted 02/11/06 6:22am

Anx

sly didn't seem to be feeling so hot either, but he managed to drop by.

Reply #4 posted 02/11/06 10:19am

Mr7

Anx said:

sly didn't seem to be feeling so hot either, but he managed to drop by.


***

Yes, but how ill was Larry?

He may have been on the toilet with food poisoning for all we know.
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Reply #203 posted 05/17/16 10:43pm

Linn4days

jthad1129

eminem=pop hero?

I really don't like this guy so someone please tell me how he is the savior of pop radio? Without me, Sorry Mama, Daddy's Gone crazy, MTV Video of the year, male performer??? Are today's kids just idiots or are their parents and siblings listening too?

I didn't listen to what my parents were into but I did like what my big sister was into..EWF, Bootsy Collins, Brick, Prince, Patrice Rushen, even Streisand.

Why didn't eminem's 15 mins run out after his last cd? Like Vanilla Ice, Ice T, Snoop, Bone thugs n harmony, Luke, etc.

Please tell me what is going on???

Reply #1 posted 09/22/02 1:32pm

Mr7

I'd hardly call 'Snoop' 15 minutes of fame.

He's released over 4 solo albums and a clutch of other collaborative projects. His last CD 'The Last Meal' sold well and his new forthcoming CD is widely anticpated.
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Reply #204 posted 05/17/16 10:45pm

Linn4days

squirrelgrease

Xenophobia Box Set Here

Xenophobia Box Set Here...
the one that was recorded from someone's pants.

I've read some posts by people who are getting their panties in a bunch, hoping that Prince does not use overdubs on the new box set. Get real.

As a fan who collects boots, I just have to say that he 12 disc Xeno set is horrible. It was, of course recorded from the audience. Security was tight at Xenophobia, so I am getting this mental picture of a microphone shoved up some poor "mule's" ass. Well mule, it wasn't your best work. I think that you can actually hear farts during some of the songs.

My point is, give me 7 discs from a soundboard (using dreaded overdubs) over 12 discs using an ass-mike, any day.

Prince has an idea what his released material should sound like, so he's probably going to clean it up a bit. We will NEVER hear a new soundboard bootleg again as Prince has a pretty tight reign on his live recordings now.

We all have waited a long time for this official live release. It's going to be mind blowing to most of us who were there and to others who were not.

Prince, thanks in advance.

Reply #1 posted 08/21/02 2:16am

TRON

I hear ya!

Reply #2 posted 08/21/02 2:55pm

Nep2nes

ass-mike...lol

Reply #3 posted 08/21/02 3:24pm

Aaron

I'll wait and see for the 7 disc set. As with all things Prince, I try not to get too excited about anything. Because you know that if there's even the remotest chance of him fucking it up, he will.

Reply #4 posted 08/21/02 8:23pm

SensualMelody

I'm waiting patiently...
but I am excited!

-

Reply #5 posted 08/21/02 8:29pm

SANSKER7

I don't know about you set brother, but the one I have been listening to has been great. I'm just glad that I can still experience the event even thoughI couldn't go to it in person.

There is some pretty incredible stuff on there and I for 1 am glad to have this set.

T

Reply #6 posted 08/21/02 8:44pm

derek

SANSKER7 said:

I don't know about you set brother, but the one I have been listening to has been great. I'm just glad that I can still experience the event even thoughI couldn't go to it in person.

There is some pretty incredible stuff on there and I for 1 am glad to have this set.

T


YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!

A soundboard recording of the Xenophobia shows is gonna sound SO much better than the VERY average bootleg released by Premium.

Overdubs or not...the Xeno boot is dead - long live the 'official' soundboard release!!!

smile
smile
smile

Reply #7 posted 08/22/02 2:24am

Mr7

If Prince regularly releases live material like this, it will put the bootleggers out of business.

An audience recording pales in comparision to the sound quality offered by an official soundboard release.

Plus, I still think that most people would rather buy the material from the artist. The only reason they use bootleggers is because the material is not avaliable from the official source.

The 'Xenophobia bootleg set' is an audience recording that is being sold for $100. An NPGMC annual membership is $100 and for that you recieve an official live set, plus other albums and tour perks.

Prince not only offers superior quality from the official source, he also has the better deal.
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Reply #205 posted 05/17/16 10:47pm

Linn4days

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Why did the Jews deny Jesus?

Would History had changed had the Jews accepted Jesus?
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Reply #1 posted 03/05/06 11:57am

Mr7

Not all Jews did deny Jesus.

Some accepted him and followed him.

As a majority and in a religious sense, unfortunately they did deny him despite the abundant Scriptural and chronological evidence that he was the Christ. This is despite the miracles he performed.

My personal belief is that it was largely a matter of pride and a general misconception regarding what kind of person Christ would be.

Jesus criticised and revealed the faults of the entire Jewish religious system. This offended many and struck their pride.

Many Jewish people were expecting the Christ to be a glorious King who would immediately restore paradise. Instead Jesus arrived as a humble and lowly man and preached that his Kingdom was in the heavens.

I do not think it would have changed history particularly, just that more jewish people would have become Christians.

Peace
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Reply #206 posted 05/17/16 10:48pm

nursev

Yep Im sold it was him especially talking bout bootlegs n the NPGMC eek

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Reply #207 posted 05/17/16 10:49pm

Linn4days

Reply #90 posted 05/02/03 2:16pm

jojofran

XxAxX said:

Mr7 said:

The problem is XxaxX, how can you verify the validity of these sources?

Where did you find the information that you are presenting?

If I posted large sections of Alex Hahns new book about Prince on-line, would it necessarily make it true?

I have no personal problem with you and I respect your right to express your opinion, but I would like you to consider exactly what you are doing here.

Is this an opinion or has it turned into a vendetta?

Again, XxAxX, I put the above questions to you. I have read a great deal of independent reports on Russell that were positive.

he was charismatic, i give him that

Please try to consider that Russell is not the leader or creator of the Jehovah's Witnesses. We do not folow any one particular human, we follow Christ and the Scriptures

scuse me - he was the creator and no, they don't. they follow the new translation and the watchtower teachings

Russell had no involvement in the New World Translation and did not even practice some of the values Jehovah's Witnesses now hold




bah. i DO have to go. i'd love to pick holes in your statements but dang it gotta work for a living smile



but xxaxx wait what if what u stated.. ha ha ha ha just joking..
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Reply #91 posted 05/02/03 2:17pm

Mr7

XxAxX said:

it's not harsh, it is the TRUTH. i am repeating what i have discovered through my own investigations into the origin of this faith.

and, for a sect that tells the world that IT and IT ALONE has the TRUTH, i think it ironic that its origins are tainted by so many UNTRUTHS. this is why i originally brought up the two questions which really bother me:

1) charles taze russell did NOT tell the truth, so how can a faith he created be the TRUTH; and
2) the watchtower claims to speak for god, but has made many mistaken end-world prophecies - so how can it still claim to speak for god?


you see, in my opinion these are the obvious hallmarks of a FALSE PROPHET and i am interested to learn how these issues are reolved by followers of this doctrine.

edited because i can't type today
[This message was edited Fri May 2 13:56:13 PDT 2003 by XxAxX]


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See the links I have provided which indicate that Charles Taze Russell did tell the Truth and was a man of upstanding character.

However, it matters little to my faith if he was not Mr Perfect, as I follow God, Christ and the Holy Scriptures.
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Reply #208 posted 05/17/16 10:51pm

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llluvley1

tuesday at 11 on vh1 new video!

tuesday at 11 new video for the new album 3121! woo hoo i saw the preview the video is Te Amo Corazon ! and let me tell ya he looks HOT!some1 also posted this info on npgmc in the u tell us section:) im glad some1 else saw it 2smile
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Reply #1 posted 12/07/05 4:41am

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llluvley1 said:

tuesday at 11 new video for the new album 3121! woo hoo i saw the preview the video is Te Amo Corazon ! and let me tell ya he looks HOT!


You mean this Tuesday or next week? I can't keep up with Prince recently. lol
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Reply #2 posted 12/07/05 4:42am

llluvley1

it just said tuesday:D i was so happy !!! biggrinlol
Leona
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Reply #3 posted 12/07/05 4:46am

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llluvley1 said:

tuesday at 11 new video for the new album 3121! woo hoo i saw the preview the video is Te Amo Corazon ! and let me tell ya he looks HOT!
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11:00 AM or PM? What time zone? Where did you get this information from?
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Reply #4 posted 12/07/05 4:49am

llluvley1

well it said 11 it was a pretty fast ad and i was too busy lookin at him i am assuming am watch vh1 i am sure they will show it again i just saw it a little after 7 am this morning:) i was in not expecting to see it so i was flustered lol
Leona
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Reply #5 posted 12/07/05 5:04am

Rhondab

i'm sure this will get moved to the sticky.....but thanks for the info
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Reply #6 posted 12/07/05 6:07am

Mr7

Whats it sound like?

Any idea on the style etc?

Thanks

Mr7
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Reply #209 posted 05/17/16 10:54pm

Linn4days

That last one...(there are more, but its too much to post)..

That last one I posted, Mr7 says he is in London...

Not sure...

It seems like him or a close staffer..or both at times.

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