What are you talking about? If you have inside info

spill it out.

antonb said:

Am out of this thread

bobos123 said:

How can anyone produce a WILL without the death certificate ???

I am a lawyer. You are wrong.

I'm not saying there couldn't still be a will, however, there is no reason a will could not be presented to the court at this stage.

BanishedBrian said:

bobos123 said:

BanishedBrian said:

I am a lawyer. You are wrong.

I'm not saying there couldn't still be a will, however, there is no reason a will could not be presented to the court at this stage.

True but no fun in that .. With prince always expect the unexpected.( one thing about life the enermy is always within) [Edited 5/3/16 16:09pm]

If a will exists, it is doubtful IMO that the custodian of that will yet realizes they possess it. There would be no reason to sit on it, as the longer the time period goes by until it's presented, the more time there is for Bremer Trust to take temporary actions that might be different than what another representative would take. Further, to the extent there may be issues regarding will validity/legitimacy, waiting is a bad idea because it will create more suspicion. For those reasons, I really doubt any lawyer is intentionally sitting on it right now, though it's theoretically possible.

[Edited 5/3/16 16:18pm]

I'm listening to the Rock Over Germany bootleg right now and right when I read these lyrics in this thread Prince sang these lyrics.

Weird...

bobos123 said:

All 7 and we'll watch them fall They stand in the way of love And we will smoke them all With an intellect and a savoir-faire

i am waiting for eeryione to say it was a bad dream

BanishedBrian said:

berlinas2k said:

bobos123 said:

If prince had instructed his lawyer to delay the WIll the lawyer has to wait, And if memory serves me correctly he may have placed everything into A trust therefore it does not become public knowledge? When have you known prince to follow rules he makes them.

No, the lawyer would not have to follow that instruction. Upon Prince's passing, his client is the estate, and the estate's interest is to have the will presented and the assets protected.

As for the trust, whether it becomes public knowledge or not, it would be presented to the court, and the court's actions to date show that there is no trust known to the court.

OMG this all seems so absurd to me - you can put this comment in the wackadoo thread if you like but none of this makes anyone skeptical that he's not chillin on a beach somewhere far away where maybe he owns a hundred or more acres and can be left alone to make music and do whatever he wants? He can fly anyone there at any time and get anything he likes, he's got enough money - why isn't this more plausable than he fell over in an elevator after singing for the last what 20 years about not letting an elevator take you down - oh no - let's go! He said let's go - I think he went! Also, I agree with the person that said how does someone manage to get cremated within two days of their death with no will?

LifeisGood said:

Also, I agree with the person that said how does someone manage to get cremated within two days of their death with no will?

See the following statute for an explanation: https://www.revisor.mn.go...id=149A.80

Essentially, when the medical examiner is ready to release the body, custody is given to whichever person comes up first in the list of priorities set forth in the statute. That person then directs what happens to the body. In Prince's case, no will was yet presented, and he had no living spouse, adult child or parent, in which case custody falls to the adult sibling. That person then directs the disposal decision.

This thread must a parody of the other crazy threads here.

At least I hope it is.

BanishedBrian said:

trc1 said:

BanishedBrian said:

If a will exists, it is doubtful IMO that the custodian of that will yet realizes they possess it. There would be no reason to sit on it, as the longer the time period goes by until it's presented, the more time there is for Bremer Trust to take temporary actions that might be different than what another representative would take. Further, to the extent there may be issues regarding will validity/legitimacy, waiting is a bad idea because it will create more suspicion. For those reasons, I really doubt any lawyer is intentionally sitting on it right now, though it's theoretically possible.

[Edited 5/3/16 16:18pm]

Wouldn't there be repocussions on the Atty if they did? Also if they find a will written in P's handwriting (drafted with intent to file) still be considered legal?

If an attorney is sitting on a will and allowing these proceedings to occur, yes, they face risk of liability. See the following:
"After the death of a testator and on request of an interested person, a person having custody of a will of the testator shall deliver it with reasonable promptness to an appropriate court. A person who willfully fails to deliver a will is liable to any person aggrieved for any damages that may be sustained by the failure." (https://www.revisor.mn.go...=524.2-516

trc1 said:

BanishedBrian said:

If a will exists, it is doubtful IMO that the custodian of that will yet realizes they possess it. There would be no reason to sit on it, as the longer the time period goes by until it's presented, the more time there is for Bremer Trust to take temporary actions that might be different than what another representative would take. Further, to the extent there may be issues regarding will validity/legitimacy, waiting is a bad idea because it will create more suspicion. For those reasons, I really doubt any lawyer is intentionally sitting on it right now, though it's theoretically possible.

[Edited 5/3/16 16:18pm]

Wouldn't there be repocussions on the Atty if they did? Also if they find a will written in P's handwriting (drafted with intent to file) still be considered legal?

I would imagine it needed to be at least notarized.

lwr001 said:

i am waiting for eeryione to say it was a bad dream

me too. i keep trying to wake up and realize he still lives, still heart beating away at the park

Aerogram said:

This thread must a parody of the other crazy threads here.

At least I hope it is.

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let's not be hurtful now. crazy is a little strong innit? there's fantasy world and there's crazy. it all depends on whose shoes you're wearing at the moment.

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okay, so maybe it's possibly true that some of us are taking refuge in pure fantasy. so what if we are?

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prince enacted his own death in his art so many times and the april 21 date line up thing is truly weird and he was deeeeep into symbolism and secret chemtrail codes and illuminati symbolism and of all the people in the entire world can you think of a single one who would be more likely to pull a hoax like this?

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yeah i'm dreaming. please don't pinch me!!!!

XxAxX said:

Aerogram said:

This thread must a parody of the other crazy threads here.

At least I hope it is.

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let's not be hurtful now. crazy is a little strong innit? there's fantasy world and there's crazy. it all depends on whose shoes you're wearing at the moment.

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okay, so maybe it's possibly true that some of us are taking refuge in pure fantasy. so what if we are?

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prince enacted his own death in his art so many times and the april 21 date line up thing is truly weird and he was deeeeep into symbolism and secret chemtrail codes and illuminati symbolism and of all the people in the entire world can you think of a single one who would be more likely to pull a hoax like this?

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yeah i'm dreaming. please don't pinch me!!!!

Enjoy your dream.

BanishedBrian said:

trc1 said:

BanishedBrian said: Wouldn't there be repocussions on the Atty if they did? Also if they find a will written in P's handwriting (drafted with intent to file) still be considered legal?

If an attorney is sitting on a will and allowing these proceedings to occur, yes, they face risk of liability. See the following:
"After the death of a testator and on request of an interested person, a person having custody of a will of the testator shall deliver it with reasonable promptness to an appropriate court. A person who willfully fails to deliver a will is liable to any person aggrieved for any damages that may be sustained by the failure." (https://www.revisor.mn.go...=524.2-516

What people don't understand/remember, mostly because they are still in shock, is that this process can, and probably will, take a long time to process.

First of all, the Death Certificate hasn't been issued yet.

The first hearing has been held. The family members have been established. No known Will has been declared to the Court. An Administrator of the Estate has been appointed.

In the next step of the Estate, EVERYTHING must be inventoried and valued. This is going to, obviously, take quite a long time. How long? It is going to depend a lot on how organized Prince was. Also: Did Prince have a CPA? A CPA (or maybe an attorney? WHO did Prince's tax returns?!?) will greatly increase the speed of this process.

My theory is (and this is just a THEORY!): Prince was in so much pain, he just didn't care anymore. (Anyone who has degenerative arthritis with a joint that is "bone-on-bone" knows how EXTREMELY painful it is...) It is possible, he knew his Estate would be messy anyway, so he just trusted that the Probate Court would sort it all out. <THIS is just one of the many benefits of Probate Court! We just need to trust the men and women of this Probate Court, and let the process run. However, it will take some time.....

[Edited 5/22/16 8:28am]

I'm not a lawyer, so I could easily be wrong. But I recall hearing the day after his death, when the first reports of "no will" came out, that in Minnesota they don't normally produce a will until there's a death certificate issued. I wish I'd saved the link or something but I didn't, so my memory could be wrong. But that's what stuck in my mind.

XxAxX said:

Just sitting here applauding BanishedBrian for disrupting the fact-free routine that's been especially rampant this week.

Folks can speculate about lyrics all day, but the mess about legalities, when there are clear and easy to find (and repeatedly posted) laws and standard practices, are doing no good for anyone.

i don't know what the facts are. the only other one I think pulled the hoax was Michael jackson. And I read that book about Elvis. I think he did, too. And Buzz Aldrin saw aliens, too. Ok, that was all facetious. And I don't know what else, but I got real problems that a guy got a save shot four nights? before and was left alone after being taken to Walgreens to get more pills to take another dose of what he overdosed on that caused him to almost die four nights before and then died in an elevator after writing a song about dying in an elevator, and a freaking doctor was there and FLEW IN from another state for a "grave medical emergency" when anybody knows that if a person is "endangered" they HAVE to be put in a hospital, that's the LAW, not wait on a doctor ALONE with a bunch of pills. What IS this? well, it doesn't make sense to my logical brain, so I think something is way off, and don't think I want to know what's going on. Because, just like Michael Jackson, and Elvis, either they really died and were given the pills to enable their deaths and somebody needs to be charged, or it all was a hoax. For some reason. Man I been reading about this a little too much today....

morningsong said:

Nobody can wrap their head around the no will part.

damn