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newpowergeneration said: This sort of stuff was a lot more fun when we were trying to work out the Rave Un2 tracklisting Now it can all be read differently. Surprise, surprise.
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it's truly sad that it's prince's death we're spculating on. but over the years prince gave us all kinds of cryptic puzzles and oblique references and coded messages on his album covers and the lyrics of his songs. i don't think he'd be mad at us for looking at things the way we are right now. [Edited 5/5/16 17:21pm] | |
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nope. no he's not. not on THIS thread he ain't. here's the story so far: prince's occasional professional stand-in body double person/decoy person overdosed/came to harm somehow accidentally while taking prince's place at the Park, during prince's rehab. . since the (poor) decoy person guy was found by someone who didn't know him, and prince's employees were distraught and didn't really look super closely, this mistake passed unnoticed. . or in an alternate parallel universe, prince planned to fake his death, and the decoy person was supposed to die? that seems a bit cruel. naah . in yet another universe, there was an attempt on prince's life, or a crazed fan snuck in and the decoy stand-in person became deceased instead. . real prince, in the virgin islands undergoing treatment could not timely correct the identity mix-up and thus things proceeded. perhaps even prince's kin didn't know about the mix-up?/ they played a part? . by happy circumstance album sales are through the roof and real prince is actually enjoying a true vacation for the first time in forever, where he can just walk down the street and no one bothers him. eating coconuts and mango juice and swimming and recovering. truly free and happy [Edited 5/5/16 17:38pm] | |
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nope. no he's not. not on THIS thread he ain't. here's the story so far: prince's occasional professional stand-in body double person/decoy person overdosed/came to harm somehow accidentally while taking prince's place at the Park, during prince's rehab. . since the (poor) decoy person guy was found by someone who didn't know him, and prince's employees were distraught and didn't really look super closely, this mistake passed unnoticed. . or in an alternate parallel universe, prince planned to fake his death, and the decoy person was supposed to die? that seems a bit cruel. naah . in yet another universe, there was an attempt on prince's life, or a crazed fan snuck in and the decoy stand-in person became deceased instead. . real prince, in the virgin islands undergoing treatment could not timely correct the identity mix-up and thus things proceeded. perhaps even prince's kin didn't know about the mix-up?/ they played a part? . by happy circumstance album sales are through the roof and real prince is actually enjoying a true vacation for the first time in forever, where he can just walk down the street and no one bothers him. eating coconuts and mango juice and swimming and recovering. truly free and happy [Edited 5/5/16 17:38pm] In my version, he's conspiring with the Obama's to bring down the prescription drug overlords. He was the only celebrity they knew wouldn't fall to the temptations of drugs so they could trust him as a great undercover sting operative to bring down the people who think it's fair to kill the youth with that poison. A real life super hero. [Edited 5/5/16 17:44pm] Surprise, surprise.
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flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup | |
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yes!! absolutely! he would totally rock a superhero costume. although, maybe not like as in buttless pants and a lace shirt?? sorry. don't mean to disrespect his memory | |
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I have been reflecting on the parallels between the lives of Prince and Vanity. They seemed to have some kind of spiritual relationship even after they broke up. As if they were mirrors of each other.
They were said to have been stunned by each other when they met, and saw themselves in the other. He gave her the name of Vanity because he saw his reflection in her, a female version of himself. She was sexually independent and promiscuous, just like he was, yet he couldn't bear that attribute in her. She walked away from him. Like he walked away from most women.
His most famous movie which defined him and made him a star, was largely about his relationship with Vanity. Many of the events were based on actual events. Most of the songs had their initial inspiration in her.
They were both engaged to other musicians around 1986/87/88. Neither actually got married. Vanity disavowed her name in the early 90s just like Prince did. She developed serious health problems in the mid 90s just as he is said to have. She got married and divorced in 95/96. He got married and separated in 96/97.
She became extremely religious in the 90s just as he did. She rejected her sexual persona just as he did.
Since 2000 she became an evangelist, and Prince also went on interviews discussing his faith more and more.
In 2007 she said in an interview that she and Prince occasionally talked on the phone but she wanted to see him face to face. He had just divorced Mani and was with Tamar and then in Las Vegas. She said she was waiting for God to supranaturally hook them up.
Her health took a turn for the worse last October, and she began to sell her things, talking about medical expenses but also putting her house in order. It became clear in recent months she was not going to make it. In January Prince is said to have started to seem sick, and gotten worse since then. She died on February 15, one day after Valentines Day. He got the news when he landed in Australia. He was without his entourage that day. It seems to have affected him emotionally. He said in the concert he dedicated to her that they had once loved each other deeply, and that she knew she was the finest woman in the world. He played The Beautiful Ones for her, and he said 'she knows'. (Last December his interview came out for a single day in Rolling Stone where he said that the song had been written for her after she broke up with him and left the movie. The interview was immediately withdrawn).
Her funeral did not occur until later in Feb, right after Prince finished in Australia, and Prince played his concerts in Oakland the day after her funeral. The funeral was closed to the public. Did he go?
He then apparently got weaker and sicker. His avatar on twitter revealed the third eye and had a tear. He had an overdose on April 15, exactly 2 months after her death. Another overdose after a week of no sleep, and died. In an elevator.
Other notes: In 1985 she said on Johnny Carson that she had been seeing him off and on for 2 - 1/2 yr. not just the 1 - 1/2 years. It is said they met at the AMAs. An additional story says Prince stole her from Rick James his old rival. Rick was planning to put her in his own 'girl group'. She mentioned in one interview that Prince has sent over his rep to her who asked her to take him to the bathroom, which she thought odd. In an early biography it said that they were both wearing trench coats and he asked her to switch with him, they went into the bathroom to change, he took his coat off and was naked.They were together after that.
In Nikki Sixx' biography he said that in January 1987 he went to Vanity's apartment and she had a ton of roses from Prince with a card saying, 'Dump him. Take me back. Prince.' In April Vanity said they should get married so they got engaged. When Nikki went on tour later in June, Vanity visited him in Minneapolis and stayed behind to see Prince. Shortly after Nikki broke up with her. Vanity mentioned him in interviews and her autobiography saying he was the only man she ever really loved. But that he could not be happy with a single woman. It was said that in one of her dire health scares she woke in the hospital and it was full of flowers from Prince.
I don't know if this means anything except that to my eyes they seemed to be somehow living parallel lives. She was always in love with him. Perhaps her death affected him too.
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Prince' last guitar was from a Gus. Gus Fring lives at 1213. Fring was only recently back. It's a stretch. i wish i'd never kissed your lips, bearded lady | |
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thanks for mentioning that. also interesting that the moon is referred to as a silver, mirror. and besides being gemini in the twin cities, a longtime interest in twins. this picture made me think of prince n denise flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup | |
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I understand. I heard that after she nearly died of an overdose she felt she had to completely disconnect from her past in order to save herself, and that Prince had wanted to pay her medical bills but she refused. I do not know if that is true. I do know that many evangelicals want to rely solely on God and that accepting the help of someone like Prince would go against that kind of faith. Perhaps I want to believe that because I want to believe the best of him. | |
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They also were friends with Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall, and both of them worked with Clarence Williams III in Purple Rain 1985 and 52-Pick Up 1986.
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Interesting Beachy, yes maybe there was also a sense of guilt there when she died for leading her astray in the early years? Who knows but her early death probably triggered a lot of nostalgic memories and thoughts of his own mortality. [Edited 5/5/16 23:10pm] | |
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Also, "I WOULD DIE 4 U" The word "would" in this context also means "will" (I WILL die 4 U, if u asked me to) The letter "U" is the 21st letter of the alphabet, U = 21 "I WILL DIE 4 21" Could he have been forcasting the date of his own death? | |
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So here is this... counting from June 7 1958 to April 21 2016 it is 21,138 days...
you can move the first 4 digits around to get 3121 with an 8 left over. If he actualy passed the day before it would be 21137 (3121 and a 7) and if it had been on more day 21139 that is a prime number. As is 7, 1999, and 3121 (as well as 2) (319 is not)
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beachy said:
I understand. I heard that after she nearly died of an overdose she felt she had to completely disconnect from her past in order to save herself, and that Prince had wanted to pay her medical bills but she refused. I do not know if that is true. I do know that many evangelicals want to rely solely on God and that accepting the help of someone like Prince would go against that kind of faith. Perhaps I want to believe that because I want to believe the best of him. I'm sure he helped her. Sounds like he kept most of his good deeds private. The more I think about it, the more positive I am he was heartbroken by her passing and just fell into a deep depression. So sad... The worst is it sounds they both let religion get in the way of true love. I hope they are together again... Side by side. Surprise, surprise.
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Coincidences only seem remarkable because you notice them, but not the billions of other things that happen all the time. There's nothing mysterious or sinister about them. "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov | |
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57= 3 x 19 319 on of a few of his songs with a number in its title that is not prime "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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^ never really thought of it that way | |
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I too think he was mourning her. That often compromises one's immune system. It pulls you down. | |
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Lianachan said: Coincidences only seem remarkable because you notice them, but not the billions of other things that happen all the time. There's nothing mysterious or sinister about them. right, isn't that the magic of it? Something ordinary that you'd normally miss but BECAUSE you noticed it, it means something? Like things occur to you at just the moment you need that message or sign or whatever you want to call it. If you don't believe in stuff like that, it's cool but I don't think you should discourage others for finding value in it by saying it's nothing. Surprise, surprise.
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THANKS I didn't know about 52-Pickup! | |
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Just remembered the video to Empty Room. The way he falls at the end. Surprise, surprise.
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That's ok I remember watching it on Foxtel a few years back and on Hulu. [Edited 5/6/16 22:37pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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let me just say that I can't believe we are sitting here talking about this man being gone...I really loved him yall
I also know that he was a very in love with Jesus. if you read it all of the lyrics (especially on the new albums) you may find a similar pattern within the songs... and how they all relate to him talking about Jesus.
I find it extremely clever how he created all of this music with the underlying pointing to God. so I dare you 2 study who Queen Dido is and Nefertiti...and what he's saying to God in these lyrics.
I dont know his relationship with God....but I do know God.
Prince may have heard Gods call...
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Feels super weird posting while he is not here. I think he was a prophetic man that's why everyone is seeing these signs. He came here for a purpose and he did it and did it WELL. It's all about living 4 Jesus...that is what he'd want U 2 know. | |
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beautifulstrange413 said: let me just say that I can't believe we are sitting here talking about this man being gone...I really loved him yall
I also know that he was a very in love with Jesus. if you read it all of the lyrics (especially on the new albums) you may find a similar pattern within the songs... and how they all relate to him talking about Jesus.
I find it extremely clever how he created all of this music with the underlying pointing to God. so I dare you 2 study who Queen Dido is and Nefertiti...and what he's saying to God in these lyrics.
I dont know his relationship with God....but I do know God.
Prince may have heard Gods call...
Xo loves Are you referring to Black Muse? Surprise, surprise.
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RiotPaisley said: Lianachan said: Coincidences only seem remarkable because you notice them, but not the billions of other things that happen all the time. There's nothing mysterious or sinister about them. right, isn't that the magic of it? Something ordinary that you'd normally miss but BECAUSE you noticed it, it means something? Like things occur to you at just the moment you need that message or sign or whatever you want to call it. If you don't believe in stuff like that, it's cool but I don't think you should discourage others for finding value in it by saying it's nothing. Coincidences are cool, but (like anything that results from dicking about with numbers) they are meaningless. "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov | |
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