Does anyone know if a criminal investigation is going on concerning his death?

He either had a prescription for the Fentaynl or he did not have an RX. I find it strange that they now know the cause of death and we have heard nothing about a criminal investigation. Makes me wonder if was taking this stuff for pain and simply used more than the dosage he should have.

If so was he using it just for pain management or was he dealing with addtional health issues.

His doctor was coming to see him with test results the next day and we know doctors do see in person unless it is bad news.

Also what happend to all of the stories about being hooked on Percocet?

I have been wondering what is going on with the investigation too. Sometimes it may take a while. Lot's to sort out. People that may have been involved in getting prescriptions (if any) under their names. If a drug dealer was involved, etc.

laurarichardson said:

Does anyone know if a criminal investigation is going on concerning his death?

He either had a prescription for the Fentaynl or he did not have an RX. I find it strange that they now know the cause of death and we have heard nothing about a criminal investigation. Makes me wonder if was taking this stuff for pain and simply used more than the dosage he should have.

If so was he using it just for pain management or was he dealing with addtional health issues.

His doctor was coming to see him with test results the next day and we know doctors do see in person unless it is bad news.

Also what happend to all of the stories about being hooked on Percocet?

It's not rare for a doctor to visit the home of a celeb.

The recent article (posted here in another thread) talked about "VIP Syndrome" and how the wealthy/powerful often get worse medical treatment than ordinary citizens.

The interesting thing is that, although Minnesota seals the details of death records for 30 years, a criminal investigation could independently reveal some details.

derrick31 said:

This is one of the strangest celebrity deaths in recent time. There is very little information regarding the death of Prince. Nothing from the family, "friends", or law enforcement. Here was here one day and gone the next. It's really sad and disappointing.

When Bowie died my first thought was: how did he manage to keep it a secret? There were no rumours. I was still elated from the release of his last album and all of a sudden... How did that man manage a secret like that? Then I read an article that stated that he was so loved and respected that all that knew about it kept it quiet. Even the doctors and people who he obviously had to deal with and that could have easily leaked the info out.
So, fast forward a few months. Here we are now. Nobody is talking about Prince. Nobody is denying the rumours (be it drugs, addiction, cancer, aids, whatever), especially not the family nor close ones. Everyon knows how private he was. If he was indeed ill and kept it private, they will all respect it for sure. I see a lot of paralels between these two major losses. To the point where they were both cremated in private cerimonies, away from the public eye and the huge spetacle the music industry would have really enjoyed putting their claws into. A whole circus.

laurarichardson said:

Does anyone know if a criminal investigation is going on concerning his death?

He either had a prescription for the Fentaynl or he did not have an RX. I find it strange that they now know the cause of death and we have heard nothing about a criminal investigation. Makes me wonder if was taking this stuff for pain and simply used more than the dosage he should have.

If so was he using it just for pain management or was he dealing with addtional health issues.

His doctor was coming to see him with test results the next day and we know doctors do see in person unless it is bad news.

Also what happend to all of the stories about being hooked on Percocet?

I believe the police investigation is ongoing, whether anyone is going to be criminally charged, well, we'll just have to wait and see. The waiting game is never fun.

How Prince came to be in possession of fentanyl is key, IMO. It's clear he had developed a serious problem with the prescription pain medication considering the overdose and the fact he was planning to meet with an addiction specialist.

I think the percocet stories were put out there by TMZ as unsubstantiated fact. I don't consider TMZ a credible news site largely because they pay their sources for information.

morningsong said:

It is quiet, almost too quiet. Makes you wonder if it's all a wrap and done. My reason says its not, but the sudden silence feels strange.

it really is some weird on file. there hasn't really been much real information about what if anything the DEA's findings are/were or any reports at all about what's happening in that regard. odd

[Edited 6/15/16 7:28am]

laytonian said:

XxAxX said:

laurarichardson said:

XxAxX said:

it really is some weird on file. there hasn't really been much real information about what if anything the DEA's findings are/were or any reports at all about what's happening in that regard. odd

[Edited 6/15/16 7:28am]

--/ It is weird because they now know the cause of death so they could find out if he had Rx for Fentenyl immediatly.

this is the part where having all the closest helper"disappear" looks suspicious. if they knew where he got the fentenyl and it was done legally(it couldn't have been) then you cough up the infor and get on your way. if the 2 doctors who were most recently in contact with him, kornfeld and the one bringing test results, have been cleared of wrong doing, then it certainly doesn't look good for kj and merone. they either got it for him or were the ones who took posession of it from the supplier. i still think that drug dealer was mostly full of shit and that the 20 something girl hanging around,know more than they are telling. Damaris is an idiot and a liar,you tell that by her interviews. smh.

wavesofbliss said:

laurarichardson said:

XxAxX said: --/ It is weird because they now know the cause of death so they could find out if he had Rx for Fentenyl immediatly.

this is the part where having all the closest helper"disappear" looks suspicious. if they knew where he got the fentenyl and it was done legally(it couldn't have been) then you cough up the infor and get on your way. if the 2 doctors who were most recently in contact with him, kornfeld and the one bringing test results, have been cleared of wrong doing, then it certainly doesn't look good for kj and merone. they either got it for him or were the ones who took posession of it from the supplier. i still think that drug dealer was mostly full of shit and that the 20 something girl hanging around,know more than they are telling. Damaris is an idiot and a liar,you tell that by her interviews. smh.

Good points here. I too am curious as to what the DEA has found out about how Prince obtained his meds. KJ kept saying in interviews that he packed Prince's bags and knows for a fact he was not using drugs. But something is up. I too just wish they would have bi-weekly or monthly updates on any new facts on this case or information it's too quiet.

derrick31 said:

This was online and the sources were the "anonymous" kind but there was no prescriptions outside of the percocet found on the PP compound. They are still looking for signs of doctor shopping but did not find any.

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

It is quiet, almost too quiet. Makes you wonder if it's all a wrap and done. My reason says its not, but the sudden silence feels strange.

it really is some weird on file. there hasn't really been much real information about what if anything the DEA's findings are/were or any reports at all about what's happening in that regard. odd

[Edited 6/15/16 7:28am]

Considering all the leaking and sources before the final ME report. It's like a freaking iron curtain now. I imagined that if the DEA had anything on those closest to Prince, by now they'd have all the evidence needed to move forward with whatever comes next. But this silence makes me feel like this goes deeper. It's disconcerting.

muleFunk said:

This was online and the sources were the "anonymous" kind but there was no prescriptions outside of the percocet found on the PP compound. They are still looking for signs of doctor shopping but did not find any.

i must have missed that article. is it still up somewhere? he couldnt've have legally gotten a script for fentynl unless he was a cancer patient, so if that's (fentynl)what killed him the meds were distributed illegally. according to the ME report there was not a secondary cause of death,ie cancer, so at this point authorities should be/are looking for the hook-up/supplier and then who in the pp camp to posession of the patches. they are the ones could be facing charges. those patches don't just appear and disappear and kj and merone know damn well what's up! and i'm sure the cook didn't do it.

wavesofbliss said:

muleFunk said:

This was online and the sources were the "anonymous" kind but there was no prescriptions outside of the percocet found on the PP compound. They are still looking for signs of doctor shopping but did not find any.

i must have missed that article. is it still up somewhere? he couldnt've have legally gotten a script for fentynl unless he was a cancer patient, so if that's (fentynl)what killed him the meds were distributed illegally. according to the ME report there was not a secondary cause of death,ie cancer, so at this point authorities should be/are looking for the hook-up/supplier and then who in the pp camp to posession of the patches. they are the ones could be facing charges. those patches don't just appear and disappear and kj and merone know damn well what's up! and i'm sure the cook didn't do it.

If what you are saying is true, then they could be in serious trouble.

wavesofbliss said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

wavesofbliss said:

wavesofbliss said:

wavesofbliss said:

laurarichardson said:

wavesofbliss said:

i must have missed that article. is it still up somewhere? he couldnt've have legally gotten a script for fentynl unless he was a cancer patient, so if that's (fentynl)what killed him the meds were distributed illegally. according to the ME report there was not a secondary cause of death,ie cancer, so at this point authorities should be/are looking for the hook-up/supplier and then who in the pp camp to posession of the patches. they are the ones could be facing charges. those patches don't just appear and disappear and kj and merone know damn well what's up! and i'm sure the cook didn't do it.

--- The ME report does not have to disclose any other health issues. It does not mean he did not have other health issues.

Right.

Here is the link to what I mentioned earlier.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/0...cet-drugs/

laurarichardson said:

wavesofbliss said:

this is the part where having all the closest helper"disappear" looks suspicious. if they knew where he got the fentenyl and it was done legally(it couldn't have been) then you cough up the infor and get on your way. if the 2 doctors who were most recently in contact with him, kornfeld and the one bringing test results, have been cleared of wrong doing, then it certainly doesn't look good for kj and merone. they either got it for him or were the ones who took posession of it from the supplier. i still think that drug dealer was mostly full of shit and that the 20 something girl hanging around,know more than they are telling. Damaris is an idiot and a liar,you tell that by her interviews. smh.

--- You can get Rx for Fentayl so like I said he either had an Rx or he did not have one.

yes i know this. i mentioned the cancer scenario as an example of a catalyst to him using the patches. there is no way to prove someone has/had chronic pain as a factor in taking medicine,once they are deceased. chronic physical pain is only evident(experinenced and noted by a patient)while they are alive. refer to the ME report. there is a section for other factors/causes of death. they did not check one. i was a medical admin for a practice of 4 Drs. I'm pretty familiar with scripts et al(at least in my state) I do know that MOST reputable practices/drs will not give a script for fentynl unless its cancer. CP is too risky bcos of this kind of scenario.+++ put this way, if they had found cancer in the exam they would have said 'he was a cancer patient so that's why he was taking fentynl and accidentally overdosed. they didn't, so where is the medical need for the patches? chronic pain? sure, but you can't find/see that in a post mortem like you can a tumor. +++++sorry to be confusing.

+++ i still believe those two and possibly others know more then they have shared. sadly,i don't think that info will ever come to light. i hope i'm wrong.

EnDoRpHn said:

wavesofbliss said:

i must have missed that article. is it still up somewhere? he couldnt've have legally gotten a script for fentynl unless he was a cancer patient, so if that's (fentynl)what killed him the meds were distributed illegally. according to the ME report there was not a secondary cause of death,ie cancer, so at this point authorities should be/are looking for the hook-up/supplier and then who in the pp camp to posession of the patches. they are the ones could be facing charges. those patches don't just appear and disappear and kj and merone know damn well what's up! and i'm sure the cook didn't do it.

Sez who? Cancer is not the only indication for fentanyl. It's also used (legally) to treat chronic pain, particularly for those who have developed opiod tolerance. http://reference.medscape...mal-999646 You need to watch the unsubstantiated allegations, unless you actually have first-hand information, in which case you should be talking to the police. [Edited 6/15/16 11:38am]

I wanted to shed some light on fentanyl patches from my personal experience. It is true you can get them prescribed for acute or chronic pain. One of my best friend suffers from spinal disc issues - back pain daily and it was causing pain down his legs. He was on pain pills but they were not working. So his doctor after months of treatment and physical therapy, gave him fentanyl patches a low dose at first then had to up it. He was taking a pretty high strength. He did both the pain pills and fentanyl. Also he told me the fentanyl did not make him sleepy, in fact, made him more alert and enabled him to get things done.

Thank God he got off the patches and pain pills, but only due to his family and friends getting on him to get off them because he was losing weight, having stomach problems, and it was affecting his mood and mind. He knew that the f patch and pills were dangerous and he admitted to me several times they are no joke and he wished he never ever started up on them. He got off the patch and pills slowly and that was such a bitch the detox was horrible. He as on it for about 2 years. Also, my friend also weights 200 lbs. I also wonder if the strength of the fentanyl was correct for Prince's weight was at 112 lbs. Maybe the drug affected him differently due to his small frame.

Also another note, I have an aunt that has an aggressive cancer, and she is on a high does fentanyl patch. And it makes her really sleepy and cannot do much while it. So to me that goes to show this patch, and any medicine really, can affect people in different ways.

wavesofbliss said:

laurarichardson said:

wavesofbliss said: --- You can get Rx for Fentayl so like I said he either had an Rx or he did not have one.

yes i know this. i mentioned the cancer scenario as an example of a catalyst to him using the patches. there is no way to prove someone has/had chronic pain as a factor in taking medicine,once they are deceased. chronic physical pain is only evident(experinenced and noted by a patient)while they are alive. refer to the ME report. there is a section for other factors/causes of death. they did not check one. i was a medical admin for a practice of 4 Drs. I'm pretty familiar with scripts et al(at least in my state) I do know that MOST reputable practices/drs will not give a script for fentynl unless its cancer. CP is too risky bcos of this kind of scenario.+++ put this way, if they had found cancer in the exam they would have said 'he was a cancer patient so that's why he was taking fentynl and accidentally overdosed. they didn't, so where is the medical need for the patches? chronic pain? sure, but you can't find/see that in a post mortem like you can a tumor. +++++sorry to be confusing.

+++ i still believe those two and possibly others know more then they have shared. sadly,i don't think that info will ever come to light. i hope i'm wrong.

My best friend is a pathologist when he died were discussing the possibility of OD and he read somewhere that he had a dangerously low red blood cell count is telling of another illness. It didn't kill him but something was going on.

muleFunk said:

wavesofbliss said:

yes i know this. i mentioned the cancer scenario as an example of a catalyst to him using the patches. there is no way to prove someone has/had chronic pain as a factor in taking medicine,once they are deceased. chronic physical pain is only evident(experinenced and noted by a patient)while they are alive. refer to the ME report. there is a section for other factors/causes of death. they did not check one. i was a medical admin for a practice of 4 Drs. I'm pretty familiar with scripts et al(at least in my state) I do know that MOST reputable practices/drs will not give a script for fentynl unless its cancer. CP is too risky bcos of this kind of scenario.+++ put this way, if they had found cancer in the exam they would have said 'he was a cancer patient so that's why he was taking fentynl and accidentally overdosed. they didn't, so where is the medical need for the patches? chronic pain? sure, but you can't find/see that in a post mortem like you can a tumor. +++++sorry to be confusing.

+++ i still believe those two and possibly others know more then they have shared. sadly,i don't think that info will ever come to light. i hope i'm wrong.

My best friend is a pathologist when he died were discussing the possibility of OD and he read somewhere that he had a dangerously low red blood cell count is telling of another illness. It didn't kill him but something was going on.

muleFunk: in your opinion or your friend in the medical field, could the low red blood cell count also be telling of a possible infection or virus in Prince's system?