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Thread started 06/02/16 7:39pm

mechanicalemot
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Essentially....Prince died twice

Why was he alone? I can't understand nor come to terms with the fact that it's being reported that he had to be revived in Moline after a near fatal overdose and that someone would be taking him to Walgreens a mere five days later for more drugs....then to leave him all alone to O.D. by himself the next day. Six days after he died right before their eyes....they just shut them tight and let him die again

It's absolute madness and it angers me to no end!
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Reply #1 posted 06/02/16 8:20pm

GeorgieAto

mechanicalemotion17 said:

Why was he alone? I can't understand nor come to terms with the fact that it's being reported that he had to be revived in Moline after a near fatal overdose and that someone would be taking him to Walgreens a mere five days later for more drugs....then to leave him all alone to O.D. by himself the next day. Six days after he died right before their eyes....they just shut them tight and let him for again It's absolute madness and it angers me to no end!

its pretty crazy and a fucking shame to die that way

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Reply #2 posted 06/02/16 8:24pm

Blakbear

Because when your boss tells you to go home, you go home. He wa a grown man. You cannot force a grown man with a sound mind to accept you in his house when he doesn't want you there.

Much as I would have LIKED to have known he wasn't alone, on the other hand, he obviously wanted to be.

Dudes, really, stop.

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Reply #3 posted 06/02/16 8:25pm

SoulAlive

Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.
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Reply #4 posted 06/02/16 8:37pm

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mechanicalemotion17 said:

Why was he alone? I can't understand nor come to terms with the fact that it's being reported that he had to be revived in Moline after a near fatal overdose and that someone would be taking him to Walgreens a mere five days later for more drugs....then to leave him all alone to O.D. by himself the next day. Six days after he died right before their eyes....they just shut them tight and let him for again It's absolute madness and it angers me to no end!


These are things that are weighing heavily on my mind as well. The warning was there with the emergency plane landing...the chance was there to start fixing what was wrong. But it didn't get fixed and it's hard to understand why.

Obviously I don't know the facts, but I feel Prince was trying his hardest to hide what was going on and trying to help himself behind the scenes. But trying to keep it under wraps seemed to only worsen the problem and was the reason why it got so out of control. I wish he would have just took a vacation and checked himself in some where.

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And I'm not the only moment you're made of..."
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Reply #5 posted 06/02/16 10:03pm

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Too many what ifs innit. However, even if there'd been people there he may still have taken something. It's an illness, he was an intelligent man - and the illness woulda made him find away to get what it needed. If you were there you could t physically stop him - that would be assault. If you locked him in a room that would be kidnap / abduction.

Also, I'm afraid to say that there's no saying he woulda engaged with any programme or help that was offered him. Sometimes these may need to be attempted numerous times before they work, or if ever. It doesn't sound like it from what we know - but this may not be the first time he was offered or had treatment. You know, flu in Atlanta - could be withdrawal, incident on the plane a result of a relapse after a detox (whether supervised or not) and going back to ur earlier dosage.
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Reply #6 posted 06/02/16 10:05pm

alphastreet

You're wrong, he first "died" in 1993 lol

Guys I'm stressed about the fentanyl and feel really sad about it cause it's too close to home
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Reply #7 posted 06/02/16 10:09pm

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SoulAlive said:

Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.

I could not disagree with you more. Blackbear is right. Everybody is a "yes man" to the person who pays their salary. Prince was alone because he wanted to be. Even the chef said when he brought him the food, he said : "Leave it !" and did not engage in banter or the usual pleasantries.

If Prince had asked people to be there, they would have been there.

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Reply #8 posted 06/02/16 11:10pm

mechanicalemot
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DonRants said:



SoulAlive said:


Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.



I could not disagree with you more. Blackbear is right. Everybody is a "yes man" to the person who pays their salary. Prince was alone because he wanted to be. Even the chef said when he brought him the food, he said : "Leave it !" and did not engage in banter or the usual pleasantries.



If Prince had asked people to be there, they would have been there.



I know it's useless, but I just wish someone would have insisted. I would have...but that's just me.
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Reply #9 posted 06/02/16 11:13pm

mechanicalemot
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alphastreet said:

You're wrong, he first "died" in 1993 lol

Guys I'm stressed about the fentanyl and feel really sad about it cause it's too close to home



He was always still Prince to me, and I never referred to him as anything other than that
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Reply #10 posted 06/03/16 12:14am

alphastreet

mechanicalemotion17 said:

alphastreet said:

You're wrong, he first "died" in 1993 lol

Guys I'm stressed about the fentanyl and feel really sad about it cause it's too close to home



He was always still Prince to me, and I never referred to him as anything other than that


Same here.
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Reply #11 posted 06/03/16 12:23am

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Blakbear said:

Because when your boss tells you to go home, you go home. He wa a grown man. You cannot force a grown man with a sound mind to accept you in his house when he doesn't want you there.



Much as I would have LIKED to have known he wasn't alone, on the other hand, he obviously wanted to be.



Dudes, really, stop.

yes - exactly
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Reply #12 posted 06/03/16 12:57am

keenly

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.

Prince would only have YES men around him. He pushed away everyone who stood up to his bullshit.

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Reply #13 posted 06/03/16 1:30am

SheLovesMeNot

keenly said:



SoulAlive said:


Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.

Prince would only have YES men around him. He pushed away everyone who stood up to his bullshit.



This is the truth! But...he was Prince., and who knowing him was willing to suffer the consequences of not being a Yes man?! Prince never ever thought it would be him to die so young, from an overdose, like many other rock stars. He had no Will. That says a lot! I'm not disappointed in him, but this was just another example of his hypocritical ways. So much for the Ozzy Osborne dance! Ozzy at least he's still alive.
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Reply #14 posted 06/03/16 1:39am

h4rm0ny

That's how addiction works. Sadly. Whether it's someone as famous and powerful as Prince or some random person mainlining on a bus, everyone has their enablers, be them yes men or just family members.

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Reply #15 posted 06/03/16 1:53am

SheLovesMeNot

10, 15, 20 years from now Prince will be known as another rock star who died from an overdose! This is how many generations of musicians will now know him! Yes they'll know him and his music and for his genius but not for being rare and genuine...because at the end of every Prince conversation there will always be that he died from a drug overdose.
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Reply #16 posted 06/03/16 5:05am

Blakbear

Look, if this man was anything like I am when ill, I want all the people to fuck off the planet. I don't want them hanging out around me, /insisting/ on "taking care of me". You can't. I will make your life hell for trying it, and I'm not even kidding.

And, honestly, from what I have observed of Prince, he was unlikely to really want a lot of care from a lot of people. There might have been a special few who /could/, but sometimes even those people are invited to go away.

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Reply #17 posted 06/03/16 5:28am

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DonRants said:

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.

I could not disagree with you more. Blackbear is right. Everybody is a "yes man" to the person who pays their salary. Prince was alone because he wanted to be. Even the chef said when he brought him the food, he said : "Leave it !" and did not engage in banter or the usual pleasantries.

If Prince had asked people to be there, they would have been there.

Totally agree with DonRants and Blackbear...

When these things happen (like when Michael Jackson died), everyone wants to paint the person who died as an innocent victim and make someone else the scapegoat/murderer.

What happened is very sad and tragic but Prince was a grown man and was "the boss" and if he wanted to be left alone, you complied or he would have you removed and/or fired. And when people have money, they will find a way to get what they need, whether they have to use several doctors, several sources, whatever...

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Reply #18 posted 06/03/16 5:28am

Superfan1984

Obviously they CARED,, they had called the drug addiction Dr. to come (and called him stating it was urgent) and the DR.'s son came (in his place) the day after they called. Sadly, too late. But whoever said "when your boss says go home, you go home" is right. Maybe Prince wanted to be alone? Maybe it was suicide? I"m sorry but it's starting to look that way to me, especially with the Chef saying the vibe was off that night and that he didn't talk like he normally did.
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Reply #19 posted 06/03/16 5:52am

vandeluca

It is always easy to cast a blame when we are not there firsthand ourselves. Sure, there is a degree of yes men..But things don't get fixed overnight either. Perhaps they were doing the best they could and moving as fast as possible. Imagine the guilt they must feel either way, the 'what if'..I don't think they would have dreamt this the outcome...so I just say we cut them some flack...

I also don't believe it was suicide....but that is just my opinion or gut feeling.

TopazGirl said:

mechanicalemotion17 said:

Why was he alone? I can't understand nor come to terms with the fact that it's being reported that he had to be revived in Moline after a near fatal overdose and that someone would be taking him to Walgreens a mere five days later for more drugs....then to leave him all alone to O.D. by himself the next day. Six days after he died right before their eyes....they just shut them tight and let him for again It's absolute madness and it angers me to no end!


These are things that are weighing heavily on my mind as well. The warning was there with the emergency plane landing...the chance was there to start fixing what was wrong. But it didn't get fixed and it's hard to understand why.

Obviously I don't know the facts, but I feel Prince was trying his hardest to hide what was going on and trying to help himself behind the scenes. But trying to keep it under wraps seemed to only worsen the problem and was the reason why it got so out of control. I wish he would have just took a vacation and checked himself in some where.

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Reply #20 posted 06/03/16 5:59am

Eileen

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.


You mean those "yes men" who found him unresponsive on the plane, ensured the plane was brought quickly to the ground, ensured emergency medical care would be there waiting to treat him, carried him immediately off the plane and down the steep staircase to that medical care, and ensured his life was saved?

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Reply #21 posted 06/03/16 6:05am

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SoulAlive said:


Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.


You mean those "yes men" who found him unresponsive on the plane, ensured the plane was brought quickly to the ground, ensured emergency medical care would be there waiting to treat him, carried him immediately off the plane and down the steep staircase to that medical care, and ensured his life was saved?



that was their duty. they could just let him die on the plane and keep flying.
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Reply #22 posted 06/03/16 6:33am

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i think there is alot more to the story ... and it will come out ...

perhaps they tried to intervene ... in their own ways ...

you see this so much with drug cases ...

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Reply #23 posted 06/03/16 6:50am

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mechanicalemotion17 said:

DonRants said:

I could not disagree with you more. Blackbear is right. Everybody is a "yes man" to the person who pays their salary. Prince was alone because he wanted to be. Even the chef said when he brought him the food, he said : "Leave it !" and did not engage in banter or the usual pleasantries.

If Prince had asked people to be there, they would have been there.

I know it's useless, but I just wish someone would have insisted. I would have...but that's just me.

And u'd of been sacked on the spot.

These kinds of people make their own reality and if u don't come along for the full journey, u're dropped off at shore somewhere along the line.

There is only one person to blame here as tragic as it is, that being said the same person shouldnt be judged for their decisions, nobody knows the extent of someones personal physical pain.

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Reply #24 posted 06/03/16 6:52am

emesem

I will only blame the people who helped him get this poison. Whether it was a friend, a street dealer or an unscruplous or incompetent Dr.


I wasnt there so cannot judge any of his staff or aquiaintances for not imposing themselves on him. From personal experience its impossible to help someone who doesnt recognize they need help.

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Reply #25 posted 06/03/16 7:13am

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Echo of the many. He was alone because he wanted to be, period.

It's just odd to me that anyone would want to be alone in an estate that huge all by themselves. I mean what if you got stuck in the elevator for crying out loud?

His extreme need for privacy may have been a contributing factor in his death. Prince is responsible for what happened to him ultimately, however, he had a LOT of help.

And yes, he died twice. That plane didn't land because of any damn "flu". He OD'd and they saved him. That was a huge red flag, a warning sign, and not enough was done in a timely manner to respond to that first event appropriately.

It's very sad.

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Reply #26 posted 06/03/16 8:35am

Blakbear

Well, Mano, I can think of one reason: human beings are distracting. And if you're a very sensitive soul, the noise and bother of people everywhere grates like nails on a chalkboard. You become desperate for silence, so you can hear what's goin on in your head. Prince has said a million times that what's going on in his head was more interesting than the people around him.
I totally get that, personally.
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Reply #27 posted 06/03/16 8:54am

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I think Prince was sick and sad, more so than anyone knew. The days and events leading up to his death just don't add up and we all know it. The investigation isn't over.

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Reply #28 posted 06/03/16 9:06am

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Blakbear said:

Because when your boss tells you to go home, you go home. He wa a grown man. You cannot force a grown man with a sound mind to accept you in his house when he doesn't want you there.



Much as I would have LIKED to have known he wasn't alone, on the other hand, he obviously wanted to be.



Dudes, really, stop.


This.

And not only that. Try telling ANYONE with an addiction to just stop using.
It's a lot easier said than done.
Fome people just don't want to listen.

But all things aside. It WAS a shit way to go hit such a brilliant musical genius. mad
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Reply #29 posted 06/03/16 9:11am

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keenly said:

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,it makes me really angry too.Those "yes men" who worked for Prince should feel really terrible! They played s role in his death.

Prince would only have YES men around him. He pushed away everyone who stood up to his bullshit.

Not this shite again. Why comment on things that you only suspect from hearsay? You don't know him, you've not worked for him. If you're the boss of something, you tend to know what you want and don't want. That isn't unique to him. It's not like he was in some band with shared authority and ownership of the product. He was the product.

Change it one more time..
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