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Reply #90 posted 04/28/16 12:03am

GirlBrother

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TrcikyChristopher said:

My question is this: who else was P closely around 2 years ago that WOULD believe in miraculous healing by God and maybe indirectly influence him? Just a question with a very obvious answer if you think about it..


Who? :-/
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Reply #91 posted 04/28/16 3:04am

razord

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That story is breaking big time today, says he refused any meds because he was a JW. Really don't know what to make of it at all.
All u haters need to recognize, if u cant c right through these lies, good gawd!
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Reply #92 posted 04/28/16 3:35am

jcurley

Are they questioning his sexuality. I know it's an easy claim against prince. However if I'm honest if that did come to light I genuinely don't think I could cope with it. I have no issue with sexuality but prince was a beacon of all things. If this exposes something else it becomes an integrity issue. I simply rely on prince and this would devastate me
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Reply #93 posted 04/28/16 3:37am

MissMarySharon

Prince could have had friends in his life that none of us know about. How I wish they could have established the cause of death right away and we'd have been spared at least some of this tabloid vileness.
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Reply #94 posted 04/28/16 3:58am

MissMarySharon

jcurley said:

Are they questioning his sexuality. I know it's an easy claim against prince. However if I'm honest if that did come to light I genuinely don't think I could cope with it. I have no issue with sexuality but prince was a beacon of all things. If this exposes something else it becomes an integrity issue. I simply rely on prince and this would devastate me


Yes I think they are trying to because it would be yet another huge headline for them. I can see where you're coming from, but some of his lyrics do hint at bisexuality so if he liked men too, I don't feel he hid it particularly. Having said that, he clearly adored women, and later in his life seemed to move away from the more sexual stuff in his performances (oddly this made him seem even more attractive to me, I liked his mystique and that unlike some many performers, he aged very gracefully). It makes no difference to me what his preferences were, what would surprise me if indeed he did have AIDS, is that he must have taken risks sexually, something I really wouldn't have expected. I don't know, I think we're all a bit shell shocked right now, I know I am, it's hard to cope with this torrent of tabloid grot on top of other emotions.
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Reply #95 posted 04/28/16 4:23am

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GirlBrother said:

TrcikyChristopher said:
My question is this: who else was P closely around 2 years ago that WOULD believe in miraculous healing by God and maybe indirectly influence him? Just a question with a very obvious answer if you think about it..
Who? :-/


Weltons.

I'm playing the wait and see game but if the AIDS thing is true, then there's nothing in JW doctrine which would have meant P couldn't take meds, so blaming JW's would be wrong.

Other religous peepe though...



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The thing is though, if he did have AIDS, the blind article said that he found out he was HIV+ in the early 90's. He had a baby in '96, so that doesn't sit right with the allegations. Yeah, they could have gone down the artificial insemination route, but does that sound like something P would do, doesn't feel right to me. Then if he had full blow AIDS which led to his death, would he have been well enough to perform 1 week prior? Would he have been well enough to ride his bike around the Paisley grounds the day before? Doesn't seem likely to me.




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RIP sad
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Reply #96 posted 04/28/16 4:44am

Starlit

razord said:

That story is breaking big time today, says he refused any meds because he was a JW. Really don't know what to make of it at all.

Yep, national newspapers are also picking up that "aids" story in my country. Unbelievable.

So, he refused meds.... but wasn't he supposed to be addicted to painkillers ?

I'm getting a little sick of all the stories that are currently emerging, so until we actually do know the result of the autopsy, I'm going to stick with "my own version" : he took painkillers for something and something went wrong ... His death was accidental. Of course, that doesn't stop me from being haunted by the thought this could have been prevented somehow sad

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Reply #97 posted 04/28/16 4:47am

jcurley

MissMarySharon said:

jcurley said:

Are they questioning his sexuality. I know it's an easy claim against prince. However if I'm honest if that did come to light I genuinely don't think I could cope with it. I have no issue with sexuality but prince was a beacon of all things. If this exposes something else it becomes an integrity issue. I simply rely on prince and this would devastate me


Yes I think they are trying to because it would be yet another huge headline for them. I can see where you're coming from, but some of his lyrics do hint at bisexuality so if he liked men too, I don't feel he hid it particularly. Having said that, he clearly adored women, and later in his life seemed to move away from the more sexual stuff in his performances (oddly this made him seem even more attractive to me, I liked his mystique and that unlike some many performers, he aged very gracefully). It makes no difference to me what his preferences were, what would surprise me if indeed he did have AIDS, is that he must have taken risks sexually, something I really wouldn't have expected. I don't know, I think we're all a bit shell shocked right now, I know I am, it's hard to cope with this torrent of tabloid grot on top of other emotions.


Thankyou. You're right about emotions. Prince's death keeps hitting me in waves. I never thought I would be this person. I've realised he is probably the most significant figure in my life. Sexuality for me would be a gamechanger. This is not bigotry, I just needed prince to be Christ like. I wanted Fem not to mean gay.
In terms of what you say about protecting himself that also occurred to me. He seemed so pathologically in control. However maybe release came through sex. God I hope this isn't true.
Thankyou for your post..it has helped c
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Reply #98 posted 04/28/16 5:08am

DFUNK

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I hope this is not true, for one simple reason: it could have been easily avoided.

Also, can someone just about to di from AIDS play two shows a few days earlier? And wouldn't the post-mortem have confirmed it? And his friends? What would be the point of hiding it now?

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Dont dismiss it as BS just yet. Prince having died from AIDS is a disctinct possibility.

To answer your question, could Prince have performed 2 shows so soon before dying? Yes...it is possible. AIDS weakens the immune system, but ultimately the cause of death will be another ailment which was allowed to thrive due to the immune system being unable to fight it. The most common of these opportunistic infections are Pneumonia and Karposi Sarcoma which is a form of cancer. There are a range of other infections that can prevail also due to a weakened immune system. In the case of Freddie Mercury, it was pneumonia and KS. But not all AIDS sufferers get both.

Looking at recent photos of Prince, it would appear he didnt have Karposi Sarcoma, which is often identifiable by dark coloured blotches/legions which appear on the surface of the skin (Freddie Mercury covered these with heavy make up in his final months, but they were still visible with a careful eye.) Prince did, if his spokespeople are to be believed, a month long bout of influenza, which can be an ailment which strikes down an AIDS patient. So there is a possibility that the National Enquirer is correct in its claims. However it must be said that the overdose on Painkillers theory also has not yet been discounted by investigators, so we should of course wait for the official autopsy results. But both theories are definitely possible.

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Reply #99 posted 04/28/16 5:12am

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jcurley said:

Are they questioning his sexuality. I know it's an easy claim against prince. However if I'm honest if that did come to light I genuinely don't think I could cope with it. I have no issue with sexuality but prince was a beacon of all things. If this exposes something else it becomes an integrity issue. I simply rely on prince and this would devastate me

Just for the record, straight people get AIDS too.

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Reply #100 posted 04/28/16 5:21am

DFUNK

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jcurley said:

Are they questioning his sexuality. I know it's an easy claim against prince. However if I'm honest if that did come to light I genuinely don't think I could cope with it. I have no issue with sexuality but prince was a beacon of all things. If this exposes something else it becomes an integrity issue. I simply rely on prince and this would devastate me

Just for the record, straight people get AIDS too.

Thank you. One of the most common misconceptions about AIDS is that only gay people, junkies and starving Ethiopians get it. So wrong. The infection rates amongst heterosexual people who have been infected during heterosexual activity have skyrockteted in recent years.

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Reply #101 posted 04/28/16 5:48am

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My god I wish people would stop feeding this ridiculously grotesque story guys we are talking about the National Inquirer here they are notorious for using shocking headlines to garner attention always using 'unnamed sources' or 'close sources' it is all just sensationalist gossip concocted to sell papers..

People dying of AIDS spend their torturous final weeks bedridden barely able to move or breathe until they finally weaken to the point of death... they are not in the middle of hit and run world tours playing two 120minutes shows a night, outside riding their bikes, visiting record stores and jazz clubs, etc as prince was!!! Let's use our logic please and not feed the media parasites

Rant over.
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Reply #102 posted 04/28/16 5:49am

jcurley

rlittler81 said:



jcurley said:


Are they questioning his sexuality. I know it's an easy claim against prince. However if I'm honest if that did come to light I genuinely don't think I could cope with it. I have no issue with sexuality but prince was a beacon of all things. If this exposes something else it becomes an integrity issue. I simply rely on prince and this would devastate me

Just for the record, straight people get AIDS too.



Yes I know and I'm not pushing this. I just know how the media works and it tends to be a one stop shop. I just don't want crap. I know my comments seem bad I just don't want his death dragged into another level
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Reply #103 posted 04/28/16 5:51am

DFUNK

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My god I wish people would stop feeding this ridiculously grotesque story guys we are talking about the National Inquirer here they are notorious for using shocking headlines to garner attention always using 'unnamed sources' or 'close sources' it is all just sensationalist gossip concocted to sell papers.. People dying of AIDS spend their torturous final weeks bedridden barely able to move or breathe until they finally weaken to the point of death... they are not in the middle of hit and run world tours playing two 120minutes shows a night, outside riding their bikes, visiting record stores and jazz clubs, etc as prince was!!! Let's use our logic please and not feed the media parasites Rant over.

Not all AIDS sufferers become bedridden. I think you have watched Philadelphia a few too many times.

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Reply #104 posted 04/28/16 5:55am

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DFUNK said:

rlittler81 said:

Just for the record, straight people get AIDS too.

Thank you. One of the most common misconceptions about AIDS is that only gay people, junkies and starving Ethiopians get it. So wrong. The infection rates amongst heterosexual people who have been infected during heterosexual activity have skyrockteted in recent years.

This is exactly what I was about to post. You don't have to be gay (and it shouldn't be used to imply there is something wrong with that), a junkie, or living in poverty to get HIV or AIDS. They aren't dirty or disgusting diseases and those who are HIV/AIDS+ haven't done anything "wrong". It is no different to any other virus - all it means is that those who are suffering have a weaker immune system, which as mentioned earlier can be helped with medication.

If you ever lose someone dear 2 U, never say the words "they're gone". They'll come back.
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Reply #105 posted 04/28/16 5:57am

ilo

Personally I don't care what he died of or what people think of him. Only one thing is constant, he died.

And his personal life was none of my business same as mine was none of his.
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Reply #106 posted 04/28/16 5:57am

allwaystired

Some pretty worrying views on here regarding sexuality!

It doesn't make one iota of difference if someone is gay. It would not impact on my view of Prince whatsoever if he was, or had had experiences with men.

I'm quite surprised that people would even be concerned about that in the year 2016.

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Reply #107 posted 04/28/16 5:59am

ilo

I blame the poor. Awful folk don't you know. They smell for one. And carry fleas.
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Reply #108 posted 04/28/16 5:59am

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DFUNK: I've not seen the movie Philadelphia actually all I meant to say is when a persons immune system is weakened to the point that theyre dying they are definitely not fit enough to be doing all the things prince was doing over the last few weeks
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Reply #109 posted 04/28/16 6:11am

MissMarySharon

Azifwekare319 said:



DFUNK said:




rlittler81 said:



Just for the record, straight people get AIDS too.




Thank you. One of the most common misconceptions about AIDS is that only gay people, junkies and starving Ethiopians get it. So wrong. The infection rates amongst heterosexual people who have been infected during heterosexual activity have skyrockteted in recent years.




This is exactly what I was about to post. You don't have to be gay (and it shouldn't be used to imply there is something wrong with that), a junkie, or living in poverty to get HIV or AIDS. They aren't dirty or disgusting diseases and those who are HIV/AIDS+ haven't done anything "wrong". It is no different to any other virus - all it means is that those who are suffering have a weaker immune system, which as mentioned earlier can be helped with medication.



I agree, very good points obviously.
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Reply #110 posted 04/28/16 6:25am

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TheEnglishGent said:

GirlBrother said:

TrcikyChristopher said: Who? :-/


Weltons.

I'm playing the wait and see game but if the AIDS thing is true, then there's nothing in JW doctrine which would have meant P couldn't take meds, so blaming JW's would be wrong.

Other religous peepe though...



*edit*

The thing is though, if he did have AIDS, the blind article said that he found out he was HIV+ in the early 90's. He had a baby in '96, so that doesn't sit right with the allegations. Yeah, they could have gone down the artificial insemination route, but does that sound like something P would do, doesn't feel right to me. Then if he had full blow AIDS which led to his death, would he have been well enough to perform 1 week prior? Would he have been well enough to ride his bike around the Paisley grounds the day before? Doesn't seem likely to me.




[Edited 4/28/16 4:27am]

From what I know, (and may not be a lot) HIV patients take steroids and sulfa-drugs... They must eat well, and limit long-term stress (like a tour or major tours...)

I don't see it.

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Reply #111 posted 04/28/16 6:30am

Guitarhero

I will still love him no matter what , i still call it bullshit.

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Reply #112 posted 04/28/16 6:46am

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nursev said:

SquirrelMeat said:

A big desease with a little name.

sad If it turns out to be true it wont change my love for him as a fan. It will only make me sadder because he couldve lived with proper care. I dont wanna sound negative but I truly belief the JW's caused alot of this. He needed health care, but wasn't allowed to get it sad mad

There is no JW belief that would have kept him from obtaining all the medical care in the world, the ONLY thing they are against is blood transfusion and even THAT is left to the decision of the person.

You may not agree with their beliefs, but let's not make them the boogie man and blame them for all that may or may not have ailed and caused Prince's death.

Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up
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Reply #113 posted 04/28/16 6:52am

Superfan1984

I've read that his body temperature was dangerously low, 94 degrees, when it should have been 98 degrees, isn't it possible that he just fell out? People pass in different ways..
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Reply #114 posted 04/28/16 6:54am

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In the words of the late Bob George : "Fuck that".

Don't waste your time reading or writing about this manure.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #115 posted 04/28/16 7:03am

Superfan1984

The Enquirer is full of shit. They have a pic on the front of him in a purple outfit, Bria Valente days, and it says, "The last photo" --- that photo is at least five years old.
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Reply #116 posted 04/28/16 7:19am

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just post them where they belong if they need to be discussed

http://prince.org/msg/7/422464

Absurdities about Prince curiosities -gossip 'he is over' groomings hearsay and...

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