perfume said:

vandeluca said:

rightbluecheek said:

vandeluca said:

That is a good point. I recently had to call the police and I was 'irked' that the responder was asking MY NAME rather than getting to the point of the problem I was calling for. Good observation:)

Thanks for the answer...it's the first doubt I had beside the fact that the same guy did not know where he was...

It doesn't surprise me even remotely he didn't know the address of Paisley Park. Since we don't know his level of confusion/panic. I have a very good idea (95%) of who the woman was in the background based on my own experiences there. I believe everybody there at the time were employees - people who ran the day to day operations.

[Edited 4/26/16 11:31am]

jtfolden said:

LittleNicci said:

jtfolden said:

My bf and I have been asking ourselves these questions... why was he alone, why wasn't he being checked on at least, etc...

Dying alone in an elevator just "feels" very preventable at this point...

OTOH, I've seen a lot of people express concern that he was in the elevator for hours. *IF* this were true, I don't think they'd have attempted CPR would they?

That's what I think. If he was dropped at pp around 8pm Wednesday night (surely too early for bed) did he then go to the studio till say about 3am then take the elevator to his crash pad then if he was found around 9am he would have been gone a few hours then it would have been obvious not just unresponsive so no point in for or maybe that's just standard to protect by standees feelings ? Just seems odd but I'm hoping it was painless

For that matter, we don't even know that he died on the Thursday. That said, it's not the job of the first responders to determine how long he's been unresponsive -- there's really no time for that. They see unresponsive, they do all they can to make him responsive.

As far as why was he alone, I'd counter, why wouldn't he be alone? He's a perfectly-functioning, pretty controlling adult who employed daytime only people and had friends who have their own homes. He told whomever dropped him off that he wasn't feeling well and wanted to rest. And that was that. I guess the friend could have "insisted" he go in and be with him... for a while (?) or all night (?), at which point Prince would say... Uhhh, no. Go home. See you tomorrow.

You just have play the conversation in your head to see why it's perfectly reasonable he was alone. He was alone a lot.

friend2001 said:

Pentacle said:

BillieBalloon said:

I'm not talking just about the autopsy results but the circumstances and leading up to his death. I hope we get them. I hope if members of his entourage are culpable that they are held responsible. The sheriff said no stone would be left unturned and the public made aware of what happened and why. Not because of morbid curiosity but to help in our grief.

Yeah I think we all just want to know how a 57 year old vegan who still looked like he was in his 40s dies suddenly. I mean if he really was awake for 154 hours straight that sure could kill you. I'm not convinced he was a heavy drug user. I mean I don't care if he was. I don't judge people with substance abuse since I'm been there and back. My poison is hard liquor.

homesquid said:

BillieBalloon said:

I'm not talking just about the autopsy results but the circumstances and leading up to his death. I hope we get them. I hope if members of his entourage are culpable that they are held responsible. The sheriff said no stone would be left unturned and the public made aware of what happened and why. Not because of morbid curiosity but to help in our grief.

Yeah I think we all just want to know how a 57 year old vegan who still looked like he was in his 40s dies suddenly. I mean if he really was awake for 154 hours straight that sure could kill you. I'm not convinced he was a heavy drug user. I mean I don't care if he was. I don't judge people with substance abuse since I'm been there and back. My poison is hard liquor.

I read something earlier where the brother in law said he was misquoted. I'll try and find it.

*edit*

From this article : http://www.startribune.co...377060521/

Maurice Phillips, the husband of Prince’s sister, Tyka Nelson, said Monday the family didn’t want to comment on the investigation. He said his wife is devastated.

“We just want to stay out of it and let the police handle it,” he said. “She’s still in the grieving process.”

Told about Padden’s comments about Prince’s use of painkillers, Phillips said he doesn’t know if they’re true.

He was upset with media stories that reported him saying Prince hadn’t slept in days before his death; Phillips said he had been misquoted.

[Edited 4/26/16 11:46am]

boschino said:

estelle81 said:

Let me paraphrase Maurice Phillips:

"We just want the media to give us space to grieve in peace. See you here same time tomorrow."

sonshine said:

boschino said:

I'm a bit confused in regards to the 911 call that was made.

Who was the male who called 911?

Why didn't he know he was at Paisley Park?

I'm not insinuate anything here, just genuinely curious

It's not at all unusual for distraught people to not be able to recall the exact address of their location...I was more irritated at the dispatcher who kept badgering him - as if every public worker in carver county doesn't know exactly where Prince's studio is

But the caller didn't even know they were in Chanhassen, tells me he wasn't an employee or even a local, perhaps a friend of Prince who flew in and an employee picked up? He didn't even think to say they were at Paisley Park until after quite a few requests for the address. He just said "Prince's house".

If I wasn't from here, and I flew in here and went to Paisley Park and called 911, I'd probably say I was in Minneapolis too. Very curious to know who the caller was. Maybe Will Smith?

sonshine said:

boschino said:

I'm a bit confused in regards to the 911 call that was made.

Who was the male who called 911?

Why didn't he know he was at Paisley Park?

I'm not insinuate anything here, just genuinely curious

It's not at all unusual for distraught people to not be able to recall the exact address of their location...I was more irritated at the dispatcher who kept badgering him - as if every public worker in carver county doesn't know exactly where Prince's studio is

I appreciate that, but it still doesn't sit well with me. I guess the tone of the voice would give a better picture of the male caller's state of mind.

It must have been horrific. I can only imagine how distraught those people were right then. But not to immediately confirm the address is a mystery to me.

I do hope their names are made public via any police reports that may surface eventually.

eklektika7 said:

perfume said:

I cannot get mired down in the why's and the what for's. It's too hurtful. Devastating really. I want Prince back here too, but sadly that won't happen.

I also refuse to blame him, or anyone around him for now. There are simply too many unknown variables. We all know that Prince was his own man, and did things his way. I sometimes think that he knew the end was near, walked into that elevator specifically to make his transition to the Man upstairs, fully aware that his fans would immediately recognize the dark irony of it. Sorta like Bowie backing into that wardrobe, and closing it at the end of the Lazarus video.

I keep reminding myself that Prince didn't belong to any of us. He belongs to God, who so graciously loaned him to us for 57 years. Prince isn't dead, he did his tour of duty here, and went home. That's really all that happened. All things being equal, we'll see him again within the next 100 years at Paisley Park Eternal.

LOVE4ONEANOTHER

I can't believe that Prince went to the elevator to die, if he had any life force left, he would have not been sitting around waiting to die but trying to get to a phone or transportation, which maybe he was. I don't see the logic behind his intentionally dying in an elevator but I do see it as prophetic and eerie as some people do that his death is reflected in lets' go crazy. Elvis similarly had a song, Mystery Train, where it talks of a train 16 coaches long, when he died, there were 16 hearses to take him to the graveyard. There is a lot to reality we don't understand and artists are in touch with it.

Sometimes its Snows in April - 21st April 1985/ Princes Death 21st April 2016 - 31 years between. 3121

eklektika7 said:

perfume said:

I cannot get mired down in the why's and the what for's. It's too hurtful. Devastating really. I want Prince back here too, but sadly that won't happen.

I also refuse to blame him, or anyone around him for now. There are simply too many unknown variables. We all know that Prince was his own man, and did things his way. I sometimes think that he knew the end was near, walked into that elevator specifically to make his transition to the Man upstairs, fully aware that his fans would immediately recognize the dark irony of it. Sorta like Bowie backing into that wardrobe, and closing it at the end of the Lazarus video.

I keep reminding myself that Prince didn't belong to any of us. He belongs to God, who so graciously loaned him to us for 57 years. Prince isn't dead, he did his tour of duty here, and went home. That's really all that happened. All things being equal, we'll see him again within the next 100 years at Paisley Park Eternal.

LOVE4ONEANOTHER

Emma1 said:

Sometimes its Snows in April - 21st April 1985/ Princes Death 21st April 2016 - 31 years between. 3121

Emma1 said:

Sometimes its Snows in April - 21st April 1985/ Princes Death 21st April 2016 - 31 years between. 3121

How did ya come up with that date for the song "Sometimes it snows in April"? Just asking because it would be spooky if that date actually connects with the song.

I've been numb all these days, unable to grieve... He was the soundtrack to my youth. Other issues in my life right now are pressing for my focus, and maybe for the better... But underneath the surface of normality I can feel a brooding grief.

What is beginning to surface in my mind is anger: I just cannot come to terms with how someone who had a medical emergency six days earlier would even dream of spending the night on his own in a huge, isolated complex.

A lifetime surrounded by fellow musicians, employees, lovers, fans, media, ... a fortune that would enable him to hire pretty much any private health service he could possibly need or wish for... and he ends up alone in his mega-headquarters six freaking days after an emergency landing and hospital visit.

I just can't get my head around this. It's the opposite of the most basic common sense.

_

hyperpessimist said:

I've been numb all these days, unable to grieve... He was the soundtrack to my youth. Other issues in my life right now are pressing for my focus, and maybe for the better... But underneath the surface of normality I can feel a brooding grief.

What is beginning to surface in my mind is anger: I just cannot come to terms with how someone who had a medical emergency six days earlier would even dream of spending the night on his own in a huge, isolated complex.

A lifetime surrounded by fellow musicians, employees, lovers, fans, media, ... a fortune that would enable him to hire pretty much any private health service he could possibly need or wish for... and he ends up alone in his mega-headquarters six freaking days after an emergency landing and hospital visit.

I just can't get my head around this. It's the opposite of the most basic common sense.

_

prince would be the first to tell you he was stubborn, I also don't think he was the type of guy to admit to frailty easily. Some people are like that. also, stars aren't like us, they don't get told no very often, Elvis did plenty of stupid things which could have caused him to die earlier and only the people around him saved him. He still went on and ended up dead. Who knows what goes through these men's heads, maybe they think the laws of life and death don't apply to them.

PeteSilas said:

hyperpessimist said:

I've been numb all these days, unable to grieve... He was the soundtrack to my youth. Other issues in my life right now are pressing for my focus, and maybe for the better... But underneath the surface of normality I can feel a brooding grief.

What is beginning to surface in my mind is anger: I just cannot come to terms with how someone who had a medical emergency six days earlier would even dream of spending the night on his own in a huge, isolated complex.

A lifetime surrounded by fellow musicians, employees, lovers, fans, media, ... a fortune that would enable him to hire pretty much any private health service he could possibly need or wish for... and he ends up alone in his mega-headquarters six freaking days after an emergency landing and hospital visit.

I just can't get my head around this. It's the opposite of the most basic common sense.

_

prince would be the first to tell you he was stubborn, I also don't think he was the type of guy to admit to frailty easily. Some people are like that. also, stars aren't like us, they don't get told no very often, Elvis did plenty of stupid things which could have caused him to die earlier and only the people around him saved him. He still went on and ended up dead. Who knows what goes through these men's heads, maybe they think the laws of life and death don't apply to them.

Sure, rationally I'm able to understand and agree with your thoughts. But that does not take away my anger and perplexity. What a horrible mis-reading of an obvious situation: if you were rushed to hospital six days earlier in an extreme situation that demands a freaking plane to land, you do not decide to be a recluse in the aftermath.

The circumstances of one's death seem to have a way of making ugly caricatures of their character. Michael Jackson died in a sea of insecurity and addiction; Prince was probably a victim of his compulsive reclusion and stubbornness. Life is so fragile, one mis-judgment and it's over.

One of my other heroes, Bruce Lee, almost died several weeks before he actually did and was told by the doctors who saved his life that the Cannibis he ingested caused his brain to swell. Bruce was told this, yet and still, he kept consuming cannibis. Addiction is a bitch. (and please potheads, I don't want to get into any arguements, I don't care if you smoke your heads off, go ahead) With Prince, I just don't know, too early to tell, lots of inconsistencies that are quite perplexing so I'm vascillating between a terminal illness to od to a mixture of both. It's a mystery, does it seem like he knew he was gonna die soon? Absolutely. But why no will? Why not more of an effort to prolong his life. Who knows, people aren't always rational. it's utter chaos as far as what's going to happen to his catologue, something we know he valued. I can only believe he could not admit that he needed a will, even perfectly healthy people have them. It's all so strange.

PeteSilas said:

One of my other heroes, Bruce Lee, almost died several weeks before he actually did and was told by the doctors who saved his life that the Cannibis he ingested caused his brain to swell. Bruce was told this, yet and still, he kept consuming cannibis. Addiction is a bitch. (and please potheads, I don't want to get into any arguements, I don't care if you smoke your heads off, go ahead) With Prince, I just don't know, too early to tell, lots of inconsistencies that are quite perplexing so I'm vascillating between a terminal illness to od to a mixture of both. It's a mystery, does it seem like he knew he was gonna die soon? Absolutely. But why no will? Why not more of an effort to prolong his life. Who knows, people aren't always rational. it's utter chaos as far as what's going to happen to his catologue, something we know he valued. I can only believe he could not admit that he needed a will, even perfectly healthy people have them. It's all so strange.

That is the first time I have heard that Bruce died from marijuana.

Actually, this is the first time that I have heard that marijuna causes brain swelling.

Especially with studies like this...

http://www.dailybreeze.com/science/20141005/study-marijuana-helps-prevent-death-for-brain-trauma-patients

Just sayin'

Miss you Prince.

liltalkm said:

PeteSilas said:

One of my other heroes, Bruce Lee, almost died several weeks before he actually did and was told by the doctors who saved his life that the Cannibis he ingested caused his brain to swell. Bruce was told this, yet and still, he kept consuming cannibis. Addiction is a bitch. (and please potheads, I don't want to get into any arguements, I don't care if you smoke your heads off, go ahead) With Prince, I just don't know, too early to tell, lots of inconsistencies that are quite perplexing so I'm vascillating between a terminal illness to od to a mixture of both. It's a mystery, does it seem like he knew he was gonna die soon? Absolutely. But why no will? Why not more of an effort to prolong his life. Who knows, people aren't always rational. it's utter chaos as far as what's going to happen to his catologue, something we know he valued. I can only believe he could not admit that he needed a will, even perfectly healthy people have them. It's all so strange.

That is the first time I have heard that Bruce died from marijuana.

Actually, this is the first time that I have heard that marijuna causes brain swelling.

Especially with studies like this...

http://www.dailybreeze.com/science/20141005/study-marijuana-helps-prevent-death-for-brain-trauma-patients

Just sayin'

Miss you Prince.

just google it, Bruce's death was equally if not more bizarre as was his sons. Bruce was also having problems with convulsions during that time, I don't know if he was a lifelong epilectic or not, never seen that addressed in print. The given reason for his death was a bad reaction to a common painkiller. It was a political move, bruce did have a will and his family could not have collected on it had his death been ruled as being caused by illegal drugs. The docs who treated bruce the first time are on record many years later saying all of this. actually, one of them said to the other after they admonished bruce "he'll be back".

PeteSilas said:

One of my other heroes, Bruce Lee, almost died several weeks before he actually did and was told by the doctors who saved his life that the Cannibis he ingested caused his brain to swell. Bruce was told this, yet and still, he kept consuming cannibis. Addiction is a bitch. (and please potheads, I don't want to get into any arguements, I don't care if you smoke your heads off, go ahead) With Prince, I just don't know, too early to tell, lots of inconsistencies that are quite perplexing so I'm vascillating between a terminal illness to od to a mixture of both. It's a mystery, does it seem like he knew he was gonna die soon? Absolutely. But why no will? Why not more of an effort to prolong his life. Who knows, people aren't always rational. it's utter chaos as far as what's going to happen to his catologue, something we know he valued. I can only believe he could not admit that he needed a will, even perfectly healthy people have them. It's all so strange.

Cannabis isn't addicting and you don't have to be a "pot head" to know that. Bruce Lee essentially took a cocktail of supplements daily. Nobody's brain has ever swelled from cannabis use

I knew you potheads would start arguing, anyway, we're getting away from the point, the point is an addict doesn't stop even if life and death are in the balance, i've seen this in my own relatives too. Addiction is a bitch.