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Reply #30 posted 04/24/16 4:26am

nursev

DFUNK said:

nursev said:

All these conspiracy theories about him getting his music back and their worth is just to eery to MJ. If there is foul play here or anything but the death of a sick human being I will be unconsolable. Just the thought of them taking our Prince away for some money sickens me.

Don't listen to conspiracy theories please. I think we can be certain that no foul play has taken place here. Nobody killed Prince, Prince didn't kill himself.

As each day passes and more information gets released, it is starting to sound like Prince perhaps had an illness of some description for some period of time, possibly weeks or months prior to his passing, and something has happened as a result of this that resulted in Prince sadly leaving us.

We need to await the autopsy results and keep in mind that this is most likely a sad, unfortunate event in which nobody is to blame for.

As for the question of why Prince might have been at Paisley Park alone? He did own the place. He might have told his staff to go home, that he wanted to be alone. You just never know.

Ive just noticed the amount of stories about his catalog, but yes I know he was middle aged and was more than likely just terminally ill or just sick and couldn't rebound.

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Reply #31 posted 04/24/16 4:29am

nursev

Actually I started to notice changes in Princes features about three years ago that may indicate he was ill, but out of professional ethics and love for him I never brought the topic up here.

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Reply #32 posted 04/24/16 4:47am

BillieBalloon

Please don't post anything that would get this thread shut down. That's all I ask as the thread starter
Thanks.
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Reply #33 posted 04/24/16 4:49am

nursev

I would never say anything about his health because I truly dont know it would be speculation. Not trynna derail your thread.

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Reply #34 posted 04/26/16 12:20am

WordOnTheStree
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My bf and I have been asking ourselves these questions... why was he alone, why wasn't he being checked on at least, etc...



Dying alone in an elevator just "feels" very preventable at this point...



OTOH, I've seen a lot of people express concern that he was in the elevator for hours. *IF* this were true, I don't think they'd have attempted CPR would they?



In MN if a person is found dead and there were no witnesses, emergency responders are required to attempt CPR.
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Reply #35 posted 04/26/16 12:55am

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The 911 call came in at 9:43 AM. He was pronounced at 10:07 AM. There's no way any CPR was performed. Which tells me he probably died during the night some time. I don't really care so much what his death certificate says. It won't change anything. But I feel like many others here that it was a mistake to leave him alone after what happened the week before. ALL ALONE?! Then I reminded myself that Prince liked his space and his privacy and his people probably were very respectful of that. Too much so. Did no one care enough about him to risk making him angry by insisting he have someone with him 24/7?? Sometimes you have to do the hard thing and not put your head in the sand. Yet I don't want to blame anyone because I'm sure his people are also wondering what they could have done differently. It doesn't change the fact I'm still haunted by the idea this could have been avoided and he would still be here. He should be here. And when I close my eyes I can't stop the vision in my mind of him all alone in that elevator. No way in hell should that have happened to him. Did he know he was having a medical crisis and was going for help? Or did he just collapse with no warning and wasn't aware what was about to happen? There will probably never be a way to know the answers to those questions.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #36 posted 04/26/16 1:03am

boschino

I'm a bit confused in regards to the 911 call that was made.

Who was the male who called 911?

Why didn't he know he was at Paisley Park?

I'm not insinuate anything here, just genuinely curious

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Reply #37 posted 04/26/16 1:17am

darkroman

Sadly, I feel it could have all been prevented.

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If he'd listened to Morris Day and got the hip operation, he would have no longer been in pain and needing to take pills.

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sad sad sad sad sad

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Reply #38 posted 04/26/16 1:18am

SoulAlive

boschino said:

I'm a bit confused in regards to the 911 call that was made.

Who was the male who called 911?

Why didn't he know he was at Paisley Park?

I'm not insinuate anything here, just genuinely curious

I was wondering about that,too hmmm seems odd that he didn't even know the address

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Reply #39 posted 04/26/16 1:30am

boschino

SoulAlive said:

boschino said:

I'm a bit confused in regards to the 911 call that was made.

Who was the male who called 911?

Why didn't he know he was at Paisley Park?

I'm not insinuate anything here, just genuinely curious

I was wondering about that,too hmmm seems odd that he didn't even know the address

And who was the female, in the background, who eventually found the address?

This makes two people, in Paisley Park, who didn't know the address of where they were.

call transcript

[Edited 4/26/16 2:00am]

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Reply #40 posted 04/26/16 1:39am

Rebeljuice

The more I think about it, the more I feel something was up with his health long term. Whether it was an addiction to meds for his pain, or something terminal he was keeping from everyone. I suspect the outcome of the autopsy and investigative results will be along the lines of what we are hearing now. Sad, yes. But I think we should brace ourselves for bad news. Prince was unwell for quite a while, but ever the trooper, he carried on regardless, not letting on to anyone about his problems.

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Reply #41 posted 04/26/16 1:41am

friend2001

Rebeljuice said:

The more I think about it, the more I feel something was up with his health long term. Whether it was an addiction to meds for his pain, or something terminal he was keeping from everyone. I suspect the outcome of the autopsy and investigative results will be along the lines of what we are hearing now. Sad, yes. But I think we should brace ourselves for bad news. Prince was unwell for quite a while, but ever the trooper, he carried on regardless, not letting on to anyone about his problems.

I agree. i think i am pretty sure what we are going to hear and we arent going to like it. there will be some anger.

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Reply #42 posted 04/26/16 1:45am

Starlit

boschino said:

SoulAlive said:

I was wondering about that,too hmmm seems odd that he didn't even know the address

And who was the female, in the background, who eventually found the address?

This makes two people, in Paisley Park, who didn't know the address of where they were.

http://news.sky.com/story/1683273/prince-death-the-full-911-call-transcript

I don't believe in a conspiracy theory but that also struck me : how can you be in that building and not even know the address ?!? Even I know the address and I have never been to Minneapolis.... sad

Of course, it could also be that this person's mind just went completely blank because he panicked.... (Not sure it explains why there were 2 people who didn't know... but, oh well, what do I know...)

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Reply #43 posted 04/26/16 1:46am

strawberrybubb
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As someone mentioned earlier anger is a form of grief and part of the mourning process so I can understand why we all (myself included) feel this way.

I have never looked at his health stuff in the past. I am still confused about if he needed a hip operation and refused or if he had it. I agree about why was he all alone but this is Prince and he is the boss. If he felt okay what was wrong with being left alone wondering around his place. But if he really had been unwell and given a safe shot or whatever I think his staff should of been more watchful whilst respecting his space from a distance. I have a feeling he passed way before he was discovered and I don't.. I can't think of it. I just can't. Not like his. You shouldn't of gone anyway but not like this. sad sad sad sad

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Reply #44 posted 04/26/16 2:15am

Grimosity

Usually, at these places, th()e 1st to arrive are the domestics. Cleaners, maybe a chef.....
Tho, ive read he'd had a holistic appointment 1st thing Thur he missed n thats why ppl were sent to pp.He couldn!t b reached....
sad
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Reply #45 posted 04/26/16 2:18am

boschino

Grimosity said:

Usually, at these places, th()e 1st to arrive are the domestics. Cleaners, maybe a chef..... Tho, ive read he'd had a holistic appointment 1st thing Thur he missed n thats why ppl were sent to pp.He couldn!t b reached.... sad

I haven't heard that.

But then the obvious Q to that claim is - How did they access the property?

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Reply #46 posted 04/26/16 2:22am

Thizz

Think there's a chance he faked his death . . perhaps just wishful thinking though, I do see a lot of incentive

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Reply #47 posted 04/26/16 2:49am

Vannormal

D O N T !!!

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Don't blame.

Prince was reponsible enough to know what he was doing.

There's nothing that can change what happened.

He's dead.

Long live the Prince.

Just chill y'all.

And love.

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Don't (ever) bury yourself in hate.

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It's the absolute most stupid thing one can do in (t)his life.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #48 posted 04/26/16 2:55am

Emma1

OK I have to say there is stuff freaking me out... The last instagram pic had a caption Just When U Thought U Were Safe from Prince on April 14th... Its been deleted and the comments below are reacting to it and reposting what he said. He spoke to Will Smith that night and he was fine. Sometimes it Snows in April - intial tracking took place April 21st 1985. The people who called the ambulance didn't know the address. He was on his own and found in a lift and the Lets Go Crazy lyrics... Its a bit dodge I think.... I think its just not a good feeling around it all but we may never fully find out regardless of results its very strange....

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Reply #49 posted 04/26/16 3:00am

boschino

Vannormal said:

D O N T !!!

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Don't blame.

Prince was reponsible enough to know what he was doing.

There's nothing that can change what happened.

He's dead.

Long live the Prince.

Just chill y'all.

And love.

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Don't (ever) bury yourself in hate.

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It's the absolute most stupid thing one can do in (t)his life.

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Yes, we are all (in our own way) trying to come to terms with it all. But i do think these are pertinent questions that will hopefully be cleared up in the coming days/weeks

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Reply #50 posted 04/26/16 3:27am

Pentacle

Thizz said:

Think there's a chance he faked his death . . perhaps just wishful thinking though, I do see a lot of incentive


Yes, and remember he said he'd come back as a dolphin.

Man, it's all so eerie now!

I'm gonna order tickets for Sea World!

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #51 posted 04/26/16 3:34am

boschino

C'mon, there is no way he would have put his family, friends, and all his fans around the world through ALL THIS just to get away from it all.

Think.

He had everything his way for so long. Privacy when he wanted it, company when he wanted it. A Studio/Home that he built, a lifestyle that was all his own. And evidently a hometown that loved him.

Faked death?

NO.

Lets please de-rail that train of thought before it leaves the station.

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Reply #52 posted 04/26/16 4:13am

perfume

I cannot get mired down in the why's and the what for's. It's too hurtful. Devastating really. I want Prince back here too, but sadly that won't happen.

I also refuse to blame him, or anyone around him for now. There are simply too many unknown variables. We all know that Prince was his own man, and did things his way. I sometimes think that he knew the end was near, walked into that elevator specifically to make his transition to the Man upstairs, fully aware that his fans would immediately recognize the dark irony of it. Sorta like Bowie backing into that wardrobe, and closing it at the end of the Lazarus video.

I keep reminding myself that Prince didn't belong to any of us. He belongs to God, who so graciously loaned him to us for 57 years. Prince isn't dead, he did his tour of duty here, and went home. That's really all that happened. All things being equal, we'll see him again within the next 100 years at Paisley Park Eternal.

LOVE4ONEANOTHER

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Reply #53 posted 04/26/16 4:29am

Erika2k8

BillieBalloon said:

I'm not talking just about the autopsy results but the circumstances and leading up to his death. I hope we get them. I hope if members of his entourage are culpable that they are held responsible. The sheriff said no stone would be left unturned and the public made aware of what happened and why. Not because of morbid curiosity but to help in our grief. confused

Same, I want to know how this happened. Not from blogs who want $. How did we lose him?

A side of me thinks to not focus on how he died, but how he lived. I will, but damn this is messed up. Gods will yes, but this is hard.

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Reply #54 posted 04/26/16 4:30am

boschino

perfume said:

I cannot get mired down in the why's and the what for's. It's too hurtful. Devastating really. I want Prince back here too, but sadly that won't happen.

I also refuse to blame him, or anyone around him for now. There are simply too many unknown variables. We all know that Prince was his own man, and did things his way. I sometimes think that he knew the end was near, walked into that elevator specifically to make his transition to the Man upstairs, fully aware that his fans would immediately recognize the dark irony of it. Sorta like Bowie backing into that wardrobe, and closing it at the end of the Lazarus video.

I keep reminding myself that Prince didn't belong to any of us. He belongs to God, who so graciously loaned him to us for 57 years. Prince isn't dead, he did his tour of duty here, and went home. That's really all that happened. All things being equal, we'll see him again within the next 100 years at Paisley Park Eternal.

LOVE4ONEANOTHER

I'm an atheist, but I found your words really moving. Thank you

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Reply #55 posted 04/26/16 4:31am

Erika2k8

BombFunk said:

Why the hell was he left completely alone in that huge building after being dropped off at 8 in the evening? Only a few days before that medical staff at the airport saved his life with a "safe shot" didn't they? Why was there no friend, family, personal assistent, docter or nurse around to keep an eye out? And why was there no portable emergency system in place so all Prince needed to do is press a button and (medical) help would race to his location? His death doesn't make sense, is way too soon and could possibly have been avoided ... the thought of Prince dying all alone in that elevator is unbearable ...

And the choir said...Amen. I knew coming here again I would speak to people that feel the same way.

Gods will I guess, but it is sad, really sad

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Reply #56 posted 04/26/16 5:00am

perfume

boschino said:

perfume said:

I cannot get mired down in the why's and the what for's. It's too hurtful. Devastating really. I want Prince back here too, but sadly that won't happen.

I also refuse to blame him, or anyone around him for now. There are simply too many unknown variables. We all know that Prince was his own man, and did things his way. I sometimes think that he knew the end was near, walked into that elevator specifically to make his transition to the Man upstairs, fully aware that his fans would immediately recognize the dark irony of it. Sorta like Bowie backing into that wardrobe, and closing it at the end of the Lazarus video.

I keep reminding myself that Prince didn't belong to any of us. He belongs to God, who so graciously loaned him to us for 57 years. Prince isn't dead, he did his tour of duty here, and went home. That's really all that happened. All things being equal, we'll see him again within the next 100 years at Paisley Park Eternal.

LOVE4ONEANOTHER

I'm an atheist, but I found your words really moving. Thank you

You're welcome. hug

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Reply #57 posted 04/26/16 5:02am

james

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A few things I've noticed while watching videos over the past few days...

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Kevin Smith said in his story about working with Prince (In 2001?) that one time Prince told him he wouldn't be able to attend a listening session because of a trouble with his knee.

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Sheila E has mentioned in recent interviews that he had a problem with his knees and hips.

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The cane he used was perhaps not just for show.

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When asked about Michael Jackson's death he said he was "Too close to it" to comment.

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And when asked how he was feeling by CNN, Van Jones said "Guilt. What could we have done?"

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Now, I don't think anyone's to blame (who could tell Prince what to do!?), but I wonder how many knew he had a problem with pain killers?

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Of course the reason for his death could be totally unrelated! He did look very frail at the last few shows, so he could have just been ill.

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Reply #58 posted 04/26/16 5:37am

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I have a question for people living in the US: here in Italy, when you call our emergency number we are asked to give the name of the caller. Of course you can give a fake one, but it sounds strange to me that the guy who called wasn't asked this question...anyone?
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Reply #59 posted 04/26/16 5:45am

vandeluca

rightbluecheek said:

I have a question for people living in the US: here in Italy, when you call our emergency number we are asked to give the name of the caller. Of course you can give a fake one, but it sounds strange to me that the guy who called wasn't asked this question...anyone?

That is a good point. I recently had to call the police and I was 'irked' that the responder was asking MY NAME rather than getting to the point of the problem I was calling for. Good observation:)

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