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Reply #90 posted 04/27/16 7:36pm

irinact

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i still don't know what to believe but i saw one of the brit rags that said he lost 5 stone, which is absurd, a "stone" is 14 pounds and prince probably already never weight much more than 130.

I understand. But in the photos from Atlanta show, Prince's face was so thin that looked almost like Freddie Mercury's bony face.

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Reply #91 posted 04/27/16 8:30pm

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PeteSilas said:


i still don't know what to believe but i saw one of the brit rags that said he lost 5 stone, which is absurd, a "stone" is 14 pounds and prince probably already never weight much more than 130.





I understand. But in the photos from Atlanta show, Prince's face was so thin that looked almost like Freddie Mercury's bony face.




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Reply #92 posted 04/27/16 8:32pm

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irinact said:

PeteSilas said:

i still don't know what to believe but i saw one of the brit rags that said he lost 5 stone, which is absurd, a "stone" is 14 pounds and prince probably already never weight much more than 130.

I understand. But in the photos from Atlanta show, Prince's face was so thin that looked almost like Freddie Mercury's bony face.



Peeps that attended the shows raved about the shows. He came back too soon to perform.

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Reply #93 posted 04/27/16 10:42pm

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I really don't want to know the autopsy reports or the toxicology report.. What does it matter we have lost Prince!

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Reply #94 posted 04/27/16 11:17pm

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sag10 said:

I really don't want to know the autopsy reports or the toxicology report.. What does it matter we have lost Prince!

hug rose


rose

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Reply #95 posted 04/28/16 7:12am

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Am sad at all the threads talking rubbish about what might of caused his death. I will wait till the results. sad

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Reply #96 posted 04/28/16 8:26am

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If those rumors from the National Enquierer are true, about Prince being diagnosed with AIDS (don't forget that they were the first ones who wrote about Charlie Sheen being HIV+), and it was obvious that Prince was losing weight in last months, I can speculate, that he knew what was coming soon, and he already read the first rumours about him, that left him under so much stress, fear, embarrassment, and this is not how he wanted to go from this life. I think if he has 2 choices how to go-OD or AIDS, he would choose through OD. I think he tried to do this before when he was flying home, then he did it again at home. Probably didn't plan to go on the elevator, this part is just coincidence. Just my own suspicions......forgive me if you don't like them.

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Reply #97 posted 04/28/16 8:30am

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Let me try to make some clarifications here. First, Percocet is not really that strong when you compare it to OxyContin, fentanyl, etc. Percocet is very similar to Norco. Norco is known as "hillbilly heroin" because abusers crush it then shoot it like heroin. It is very difficult to overdose on Norco or Percocet if one is just taking it by mouth and not taking it with a lot of other medications. The most dangerous component of Percocet is the acetaminophen due to liver toxicity. They already said this is almost certainly not suicide. This means they do not believe he ingested large quantities of it. I do not believe it was an accidental overdose either, nor do I believe he was taking numerous other medications. I think the medical examiner has an idea of what happened and are choosing to wait until all the information is in before releasing a cause of death. They did not say it was "inconclusive" as far as I could tell. Releasing his body that day to family also makes me think they have a good indication of what happened. The toxicology report may indicate a drug-disease interaction. For example, someone in liver failure should not take acetaminophen or someone who has breathing issues should not use fentanyl (though often times they do). I don't think this was the case with Prince. I just cannot see him taking anything that would cloud his ability to work. He wasn't that kind of person. His art and work was of the highest importance.

I'm sorry to correct you on this board but you're wrong. Percocet is ABSOLUTELY strong enough to OD someone and ESPECIALLY someone weighing 100 lbs. Just do a Google search of percocet overdose and you'll see an epidemic in healthcare right now. And no, the acetaminophen is not the strongest part of it, the oxycodone is. Acetaminophen and disease interaction is completely a random thing and not often a huge problem. Releasing the body immediately after autopsy for cremation or burial is standard, maybe you've never had to go through this but it is.
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Reply #98 posted 04/28/16 8:41am

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gatorgirl said:

Let me try to make some clarifications here. First, Percocet is not really that strong when you compare it to OxyContin, fentanyl, etc. Percocet is very similar to Norco. Norco is known as "hillbilly heroin" because abusers crush it then shoot it like heroin. It is very difficult to overdose on Norco or Percocet if one is just taking it by mouth and not taking it with a lot of other medications. The most dangerous component of Percocet is the acetaminophen due to liver toxicity. They already said this is almost certainly not suicide. This means they do not believe he ingested large quantities of it. I do not believe it was an accidental overdose either, nor do I believe he was taking numerous other medications. I think the medical examiner has an idea of what happened and are choosing to wait until all the information is in before releasing a cause of death. They did not say it was "inconclusive" as far as I could tell. Releasing his body that day to family also makes me think they have a good indication of what happened. The toxicology report may indicate a drug-disease interaction. For example, someone in liver failure should not take acetaminophen or someone who has breathing issues should not use fentanyl (though often times they do). I don't think this was the case with Prince. I just cannot see him taking anything that would cloud his ability to work. He wasn't that kind of person. His art and work was of the highest importance.

I'm sorry to correct you on this board but you're wrong. Percocet is ABSOLUTELY strong enough to OD someone and ESPECIALLY someone weighing 100 lbs. Just do a Google search of percocet overdose and you'll see an epidemic in healthcare right now. And no, the acetaminophen is not the strongest part of it, the oxycodone is. Acetaminophen and disease interaction is completely a random thing and not often a huge problem. Releasing the body immediately after autopsy for cremation or burial is standard, maybe you've never had to go through this but it is.


I work in healthcare so I kinda know what I am talking about. The maximum oxycodone content is 10 mg in a Percocet tablet. Compare that to OxyContin that is dosed around 40 mg twice daily, for most on that medication. Percocet is usually used for pain on an as needed basis. I don't know what his weight was but weight has nothing to do with it it has to do with tolerance. The Tylenol component is the more worrisome component because of liver toxicity if someone consistently takes more than 4000 mg a day. Even if he took two Percocet tablets he would have been okay. I see people started on fentanyl 25 mcg with no tolerance to pain medications and they are fine. Fentanyl is 80 times more powerful than morphine. This OD stuff isn't making sense. Polypharmscy is more of an issue and there is no evidence he was taking numerous medications.
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Reply #99 posted 04/28/16 9:30am

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nursev said:

irinact said:



PeteSilas said:


i still don't know what to believe but i saw one of the brit rags that said he lost 5 stone, which is absurd, a "stone" is 14 pounds and prince probably already never weight much more than 130.





I understand. But in the photos from Atlanta show, Prince's face was so thin that looked almost like Freddie Mercury's bony face.




sad

It's only been a week.....still unreal....😢💜
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Reply #100 posted 04/28/16 9:37am

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Actually I started to notice changes in Princes features about three years ago that may indicate he was ill, but out of professional ethics and love for him I never brought the topic up here.

Read an article on FoxNews that said 911 was called 4 times in last 3 years to Paisley Park for medical reasons:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/04/28/911-was-called-to-princes-estate-for-medical-reasons-4-times-in-last-3-years.html

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Reply #101 posted 04/28/16 9:41am

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nursev said:


Actually I started to notice changes in Princes features about three years ago that may indicate he was ill, but out of professional ethics and love for him I never brought the topic up here.



Read an article on FoxNews that said 911 was called 4 times in last 3 years to Paisley Park for medical reasons:



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/04/28/911-was-called-to-princes-estate-for-medical-reasons-4-times-in-last-3-years.html





I thought Carver Co. spokesman on Friday said no calls had been made?
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Reply #102 posted 04/28/16 9:49am

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One thing I have been trying to do is kind of harden myself against the findings of the final reports.


My brother took his life with a prescription OD he lived for a few weeks and was moved to a nursing home and died with in 12 hours. (the day after my birthday). He had a long battle with addiction. But he also had some major health issues. He legitimately needed pain relief.


Anyway: I need to be ready for whatever the findings are. I do not know how deep they will look. It could be just blood tests or it could check his hair and see a longer history of abuse levels of use.


Or any other health issue he may have had. If he was an addict... if he had aids... or whatever it was... I want to be prepared. Not only to accept it personally but the reactions from people that will speak ill of him in regards to the findings.

BUT! keep in mind the police and the Medical Examiner said there was not a clear cause of death. So that seems to mean some of the reports have to be untrue)

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Reply #103 posted 04/28/16 10:02am

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nelcp777 said:

Read an article on FoxNews that said 911 was called 4 times in last 3 years to Paisley Park for medical reasons:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/04/28/911-was-called-to-princes-estate-for-medical-reasons-4-times-in-last-3-years.html

I thought Carver Co. spokesman on Friday said no calls had been made?

I can only share the article and cannot confirm it. I would like to think that FoxNews has confirmed it since it is a large publication. Not trying to spread rumors. Just sharing the article that I read.

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Reply #104 posted 04/28/16 10:47am

babynoz

Guitarhero said:

Am sad at all the threads talking rubbish about what might of caused his death. I will wait till the results. sad




Me too. sad

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #105 posted 04/28/16 10:57am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

One thing I have been trying to do is kind of harden myself against the findings of the final reports.


My brother took his life with a prescription OD he lived for a few weeks and was moved to a nursing home and died with in 12 hours. (the day after my birthday). He had a long battle with addiction. But he also had some major health issues. He legitimately needed pain relief.


Anyway: I need to be ready for whatever the findings are. I do not know how deep they will look. It could be just blood tests or it could check his hair and see a longer history of abuse levels of use.


Or any other health issue he may have had. If he was an addict... if he had aids... or whatever it was... I want to be prepared. Not only to accept it personally but the reactions from people that will speak ill of him in regards to the findings.

BUT! keep in mind the police and the Medical Examiner said there was not a clear cause of death. So that seems to mean some of the reports have to be untrue)

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I hope it gives you comfort to remember that he's still our Princey no matter what.

My wish is that he didn't suffer and wasn't afraid. Just lost consciousness and slipped away, hopefully. sad

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #106 posted 04/28/16 12:19pm

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I suspect it was deep vein thrombosis. He was taking painkillers for his knees, hips all the time, not resting enough by all accounts and doing a lot of flying past couple of years, which are all risk factors. For me this explanation is easier to deal with than anything in the area of OD'ing or contracting aids. His girlfriend seems to know as do his closest acquaintances, so she's intimated, but they're remaining quiet.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #107 posted 04/28/16 12:32pm

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Reply #108 posted 04/28/16 1:06pm

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http://www.citypages.com/restaurants/what-prince-ate-an-interview-with-princes-personal-chefs-8238997

Whatever it was he'd been sick a while.

...I feel bad that he'd been under the weather for so long. :-/

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Reply #109 posted 04/28/16 1:12pm

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babynoz said:

Guitarhero said:

Am sad at all the threads talking rubbish about what might of caused his death. I will wait till the results. sad




Me too. sad


Me three sad

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Reply #110 posted 04/28/16 2:04pm

Miles

Let us hope the results do not come back as 'inconclusive', as sometimes happens confused.



We do not want to see trashy documentaries, books and 'revelations' about his 'mysterious death' like with Elvis and MJ for the rest of time ...



I guess as he was released to the family so quickly, it might indicate they had a strong suspicion of what caused it.



Damn, this is too sad sad.


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Reply #111 posted 04/28/16 2:32pm

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I am hoping his full autopsy will not be made official, because it is nobodys business. If he was not famous they wouldn't even have done an autopsy on him under these given circumstances. I think it's already bad enough that it needed to be done to shut the public quiet. Horrible, really!

Whatever it was that caused Prince to die I don't want to know in detail. I don't want to know how long he was in the elevator. All these information is for our own curiosity and it's not like we could have helped him if we had known his illness beforehand. Death is the most private thing to a human. I respected Prince to much for wanting to know his private health issues causing his death. I guess you all know what I mean..

Prince I will always miss and love U.
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Reply #112 posted 04/28/16 2:56pm

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irinact said:

PeteSilas said:

i still don't know what to believe but i saw one of the brit rags that said he lost 5 stone, which is absurd, a "stone" is 14 pounds and prince probably already never weight much more than 130.

I understand. But in the photos from Atlanta show, Prince's face was so thin that looked almost like Freddie Mercury's bony face.

Its time for us to face facts that it was true..there was a reason he was prepping the ATL show for release; it was to be his ;last show..Little known fact was that he was suppose to play 2 shows in St Louis last week when the promooter got a call and was informed "major problems" Due to health issues Prince woudl have to back out..Thats not the flu thats terminal illness

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Reply #113 posted 04/28/16 3:13pm

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lwr001 said:

irinact said:

I understand. But in the photos from Atlanta show, Prince's face was so thin that looked almost like Freddie Mercury's bony face.

Its time for us to face facts that it was true..there was a reason he was prepping the ATL show for release; it was to be his ;last show..Little known fact was that he was suppose to play 2 shows in St Louis last week when the promooter got a call and was informed "major problems" Due to health issues Prince woudl have to back out..Thats not the flu thats terminal illness

Yes, he knew but he was not prepared for it. He did not know the date.

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Reply #114 posted 04/28/16 3:25pm

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OzlemUcucu said:

lwr001 said:

Its time for us to face facts that it was true..there was a reason he was prepping the ATL show for release; it was to be his ;last show..Little known fact was that he was suppose to play 2 shows in St Louis last week when the promooter got a call and was informed "major problems" Due to health issues Prince woudl have to back out..Thats not the flu thats terminal illness

Yes, he knew but he was not prepared for it. He did not know the date.

I hate to say it but this AIDS thing could have some truth. Is it even possible legally to cover up something like this? It sure would explain a lot and the thing that disturbs me is they were right about Charlie Sheen eek

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Reply #115 posted 04/28/16 3:38pm

lwr001

the whole save your prayers for a couple of days Look at his appearance at the 2014 grammy awards prsent SOY to Gyote and look at the appearance since..a preciptious drop in weight., look etc

homesquid said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Yes, he knew but he was not prepared for it. He did not know the date.

I hate to say it but this AIDS thing could have some truth. Is it even possible legally to cover up something like this? It sure would explain a lot and the thing that disturbs me is they were right about Charlie Sheen eek

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Reply #116 posted 04/28/16 3:42pm

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lwr001 said:

the whole save your prayers for a couple of days Look at his appearance at the 2014 grammy awards prsent SOY to Gyote and look at the appearance since..a preciptious drop in weight., look etc

homesquid said:

I hate to say it but this AIDS thing could have some truth. Is it even possible legally to cover up something like this? It sure would explain a lot and the thing that disturbs me is they were right about Charlie Sheen eek

Good points. I mean it doesn't REALLY matter whether he died from AIDS or choked to death on a bowl of Cap'n Crunch but how can any of us not want to know the truth? Is it really that shameful these days? Does anyone think Freddie Mercury was any less awesome because of how he died?

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Reply #117 posted 04/28/16 3:46pm

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homesquid said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Yes, he knew but he was not prepared for it. He did not know the date.

I hate to say it but this AIDS thing could have some truth. Is it even possible legally to cover up something like this? It sure would explain a lot and the thing that disturbs me is they were right about Charlie Sheen eek

As a Prince fan no matter what caused his death will not change how I see Prince. Usually homosexuals are more likely to be infected by Aids which does not apply to Prince unless he was bisexual which is possible. I am not sure if there is law that permits full autopsy report to be made official due to media interest. Maybe someone in Mpls can answer that? I really would like to know.

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Reply #118 posted 04/28/16 3:51pm

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homesquid said:

lwr001 said:

the whole save your prayers for a couple of days Look at his appearance at the 2014 grammy awards prsent SOY to Gyote and look at the appearance since..a preciptious drop in weight., look etc

Good points. I mean it doesn't REALLY matter whether he died from AIDS or choked to death on a bowl of Cap'n Crunch but how can any of us not want to know the truth? Is it really that shameful these days? Does anyone think Freddie Mercury was any less awesome because of how he died?

Listen I will always be a huge Prince stan,,i cannot however live in denial and or avoid things that I find uncomfortable

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Reply #119 posted 04/28/16 3:53pm

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OzlemUcucu said:

homesquid said:

I hate to say it but this AIDS thing could have some truth. Is it even possible legally to cover up something like this? It sure would explain a lot and the thing that disturbs me is they were right about Charlie Sheen eek

As a Prince fan no matter what caused his death will not change how I see Prince. Usually homosexuals are more likely to be infected by Aids which does not apply to Prince unless he was bisexual which is possible. I am not sure if there is law that permits full autopsy report to be made official due to media interest. Maybe someone in Mpls can answer that? I really would like to know.

[Edited 4/28/16 15:48pm]

I've seen some reports that state that Prince family has lobbied the ME's office so that the offical cause will be natural causes due to heart stoppage (shrugs)

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