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Reply #960 posted 05/10/16 4:32pm

nursev

Any time u have more than one doctor seeing a client there is a potential for problems. I bet Prince was taking prescriptions from both the detox doctor and the family practice MD and the medications were incompatible. Its sounds like he may have had some type of adverse reaction and it killed him. My poor baby sad Too much going on and too many people with their hands on him.

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Reply #961 posted 05/10/16 4:34pm

nursev

If that family practice MD knew and saw that he was in full blown detox and he still gave him more drugs or didnt admit him to the ER its negligence.

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Reply #962 posted 05/10/16 4:37pm

nursev

The more that comes out about his death the sadder it gets sad Seems like he couldve been saved it people wouldve done their damn jobs and were not just "yes" men....damn.

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Reply #963 posted 05/10/16 5:08pm

bilbolives

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has posted the search warrant from May 6th today, May 10th, regarding the Minnesota doctor and the criminal investigation.

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Reply #964 posted 05/10/16 5:08pm

terrig

nursev said:

If that family practice MD knew and saw that he was in full blown detox and he still gave him more drugs or didnt admit him to the ER its negligence.


yeahthat

wtf is up with the dr and kirk leaving town?????

i'm so sad/angry i am just like spinning in circles.

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Reply #965 posted 05/10/16 5:29pm

nursev

terrig said:

nursev said:

If that family practice MD knew and saw that he was in full blown detox and he still gave him more drugs or didnt admit him to the ER its negligence.


yeahthat

wtf is up with the dr and kirk leaving town?????

i'm so sad/angry i am just like spinning in circles.

So we have Kirk possibly getting pills for Prince and three doctors....the ER doctor, the detox dr and the family practice MD and none of them put Prince in the hospital. I need somebody damn license to be taken away mad

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Reply #966 posted 05/10/16 5:30pm

GirlBrother

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bilbolives said:

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf



The Minneapolis Star Tribune has posted the search warrant from May 6th today, May 10th, regarding the Minnesota doctor and the criminal investigation.



http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf

I need to ask a stupid question...

What has been redacted, after Prince's full name? There's a word in brackets after "Prince Rogers Nelson."

It's not "victim" is it? I can't see it being "deceased", because it's obvious that he's dead.

What's been redacted after other's names? "Suspect"? "Witness"?
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Reply #967 posted 05/10/16 5:38pm

Candice2009

GirlBrother said:

bilbolives said:

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf



The Minneapolis Star Tribune has posted the search warrant from May 6th today, May 10th, regarding the Minnesota doctor and the criminal investigation.



http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf

I need to ask a stupid question...

What has been redacted, after Prince's full name? There's a word in brackets after "Prince Rogers Nelson."

It's not "victim" is it? I can't see it being "deceased", because it's obvious that he's dead.

What's been redacted after other's names? "Suspect"? "Witness"?


Maybe a pseudonym?
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Reply #968 posted 05/10/16 5:44pm

cardinal

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GirlBrother said:

bilbolives said:

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf



The Minneapolis Star Tribune has posted the search warrant from May 6th today, May 10th, regarding the Minnesota doctor and the criminal investigation.



http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf

I need to ask a stupid question...

What has been redacted, after Prince's full name? There's a word in brackets after "Prince Rogers Nelson."

It's not "victim" is it? I can't see it being "deceased", because it's obvious that he's dead.

What's been redacted after other's names? "Suspect"? "Witness"?


that is weird. if it said "property owner" it would not need to be redacted...everyone knew he owned the place..if it said "decedent", same thing..we all know he is dead.

a dead person cannot be a witness or suspect. not too many possibilites are left.

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"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #969 posted 05/10/16 6:08pm

FunkiestOne

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http://www.nydailynews.co...-1.2632248

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So the doctor did tests on Prince on the 20th and was going to PP on the 21st to give him the test results. What could this have been for? What kind of tests?

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And the doctor no longer works at the hospital so was he fired or resigned in the last two weeks??

[Edited 5/10/16 18:09pm]

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Reply #970 posted 05/10/16 6:31pm

ThirdStrike

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hollywooddove said:



novabrkr said:


I hope this is not in poor taste, but...

I just watched a news clip on Yahoo where a female reporter ended the insert by saying something along the lines of, "Many people are asking the question why didn't Prince seek treatment from specialists when some of the top clinics of the country were right there in Minneapolis.".

And, I just had to laugh at it, "Because he was Prince, dumbasses." Most people just didn't know him like us fans. We really don't find it that surprising that he'd not seek help in time. There's something strangely "comforting" about still being able to "know him better than most" even if he's dead.



Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.



Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.



And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.



Wait...on HIS terms? So dying in an elevator alone is his terms?! Stop...
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Reply #971 posted 05/10/16 7:41pm

tmo1965

novabrkr said:

I hope this is not in poor taste, but...

I just watched a news clip on Yahoo where a female reporter ended the insert by saying something along the lines of, "Many people are asking the question why didn't Prince seek treatment from specialists when some of the top clinics of the country were right there in Minneapolis.".

And, I just had to laugh at it, "Because he was Prince, dumbasses." Most people just didn't know him like us fans. We really don't find it that surprising that he'd not seek help in time. There's something strangely "comforting" about still being able to "know him better than most" even if he's dead.

He did get help "in time", but it was the wrong kind of help.

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Reply #972 posted 05/10/16 8:08pm

tmo1965

XxAxX said:

babynoz said:



Nah, Prince compared the elevator to the devil. Why would he choose to take his last breath enclosed by an elevator/devil?

i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there

I see as it's the devil that actually killed him.

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Reply #973 posted 05/10/16 8:25pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_TIMELINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press has put together the latest known timeline from April 7 to April 21st.

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Reply #974 posted 05/10/16 9:22pm

avajane

I recall his chefs, the Roberts, were the first people to give interviews to the press. They were quite candid in their stories about working for Prince. Were they questioned by police? They noticed certain eating patterns of his and I figured that information would be important to the police.
I also find it odd that Prince posted a link on his twitter to a video by Dr Amy Lee concerning what foods to avoid, a tweet he later deleted. He must have made a connection between the food he was eating and the flu like symptoms he developed.
[Edited 5/10/16 23:26pm]
[Edited 5/10/16 23:37pm]
Love is God,
God is Love
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Reply #975 posted 05/11/16 1:09am

TheEnglishGent

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nursev said:

The more that comes out about his death the sadder it gets sad Seems like he couldve been saved it people wouldve done their damn jobs and were not just "yes" men....damn.


If they weren't just "yes" men, he wouldn't have been Prince. Sad as it is, Prince was probably the greatest contributor to his death. I don't mean this that he took his own life, just that nobody was going to tell him what to do or not do and ultimately that was his downfall. sad

RIP sad
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Reply #976 posted 05/11/16 1:19am

TheEnglishGent

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XxAxX said:

babynoz said:



Nah, Prince compared the elevator to the devil. Why would he choose to take his last breath enclosed by an elevator/devil?

i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there


I might end up sounding like a crazy conspiracy theorist, but my idea of how he ended up in the elevator is this...

I'm thinking he was at Paisly and he was on one floor but felt the urge to visit a different floor. Faced with this dilemma he clearly had two choices, take the stairs, or take the elevator. Why he chose the elevator I do not know, this part of the mystery may never be answered to our complete satisfaction. Anyway, once he'd made the elevator decision, it seems highly likely that he then pressed the 'call' button to summon the elevator. I only say highly likely and not definitely because I don't know if the elevator was already on the floor and the doors may have still been open from Prince's arival on this particular level of the building, I don't know the exact workings of the elevator Prince had. For each answer I know I have another question reveals itself.

Upon entering the elevator I assume that Prince pressed another button, this time to select the destination floor. But again, I don't know for sure. Maybe he entered, the door shut and he didn't get to choose his floor. Was he going down which would have been so Princely considering he sung songs about going down, or was he truly going to 'punch a higher floor'? Either way there's a huge connection to his music and again, it's just another unanswered question.

Why couldn't you have just taken the stairs Prince? Why? sad

RIP sad
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Reply #977 posted 05/11/16 1:55am

Rebeljuice

TheEnglishGent said:

XxAxX said:

i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there


I might end up sounding like a crazy conspiracy theorist, but my idea of how he ended up in the elevator is this...

I'm thinking he was at Paisly and he was on one floor but felt the urge to visit a different floor. Faced with this dilemma he clearly had two choices, take the stairs, or take the elevator. Why he chose the elevator I do not know, this part of the mystery may never be answered to our complete satisfaction. Anyway, once he'd made the elevator decision, it seems highly likely that he then pressed the 'call' button to summon the elevator. I only say highly likely and not definitely because I don't know if the elevator was already on the floor and the doors may have still been open from Prince's arival on this particular level of the building, I don't know the exact workings of the elevator Prince had. For each answer I know I have another question reveals itself.

Upon entering the elevator I assume that Prince pressed another button, this time to select the destination floor. But again, I don't know for sure. Maybe he entered, the door shut and he didn't get to choose his floor. Was he going down which would have been so Princely considering he sung songs about going down, or was he truly going to 'punch a higher floor'? Either way there's a huge connection to his music and again, it's just another unanswered question.

Why couldn't you have just taken the stairs Prince? Why? sad

I like your theory, but as you say, it just asks more and more questions. I mean, did he really want to go to another floor? Is that really the only use an elevator has? And, why are we calling it an elevator when clearly we both want to call it a lift? Questions questions...

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Reply #978 posted 05/11/16 1:58am

RobotDevil

FunkiestOne said:

http://www.nydailynews.co...-1.2632248

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So the doctor did tests on Prince on the 20th and was going to PP on the 21st to give him the test results. What could this have been for? What kind of tests?

.

And the doctor no longer works at the hospital so was he fired or resigned in the last two weeks??

[Edited 5/10/16 18:09pm]

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Well, since we don't yet know for sure what medical problems Prince may have had besides the chronic pain and addiction issues, any guess as to what tests may have been done are as good as any other guess.

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Tests that I'd assume that were likely done were checking his electrolytes (not eating properly or drinking enough can mess with those, as can viruses, medications, all sorts of things...and an imbalance in your electrolytes can cause lot of problems in and of itself), probably checking his blood counts. Those are only a couple basic tests that for someone in Prince's situation of precarious health, a decent doctor would monitor. But again, any other tests? Who can guess? We don't have enough answers to the big questions to even try to guess at the answers to related questions like which tests might have been run.

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Reply #979 posted 05/11/16 2:09am

Rebeljuice

RobotDevil said:

FunkiestOne said:

http://www.nydailynews.co...-1.2632248

.

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So the doctor did tests on Prince on the 20th and was going to PP on the 21st to give him the test results. What could this have been for? What kind of tests?

.

And the doctor no longer works at the hospital so was he fired or resigned in the last two weeks??

[Edited 5/10/16 18:09pm]

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Well, since we don't yet know for sure what medical problems Prince may have had besides the chronic pain and addiction issues, any guess as to what tests may have been done are as good as any other guess.

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Tests that I'd assume that were likely done were checking his electrolytes (not eating properly or drinking enough can mess with those, as can viruses, medications, all sorts of things...and an imbalance in your electrolytes can cause lot of problems in and of itself), probably checking his blood counts. Those are only a couple basic tests that for someone in Prince's situation of precarious health, a decent doctor would monitor. But again, any other tests? Who can guess? We don't have enough answers to the big questions to even try to guess at the answers to related questions like which tests might have been run.

Maybe that is where the low red blood count story came from. This doctor leaked the reults of his test and has been fired for doing so.

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Reply #980 posted 05/11/16 2:10am

Bohemian67

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I hate this thread and the details. Just nothing makes sense and the elevator business drives me nuts.

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Prince tweets 'despite Influenza the planet is still priceless' - strange connection I find if it's only flu.

Then the rumours are that he was 'unconscious' literally a few hours after his concert and that it was an opiod overdose? What? Prince on opiods? Can barely believe it. Could it be that mixed witht he concert adrenalin and heavy painkillers that it was too much and he lost consciousness? Still honestly unbelievable.

.

Even more unbelieveable .... the concert, 'save your prayers remark' because if the above paragraph is true, he was taking us for a ride saying 'all was ok'. It wasn't! What was he trying so hard to hide or was he really okay?

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Then, why would a Dr. deliver test results personally to someone's house on the day he was found in the elevator? Why would Prince, if paragraph two is true, play with his life by taking the same pharmaceutical drugs again, if he KNEW that a few days previously they had played with his life and it was a risk??? If he knew there was a danger in them supressing his respiratory capacity and he had been sick on top of it he would have surely been against taking anything? None of it makes any sense.

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mad

ps. Kirk leaving town is normal. He would have been immediately off duty anyway and just what is he supposed to do? It was sure no holiday for him that's for sure, and if it had been planned because Prince was maybe going to LA for treatment, then it only makes sense that plans went ahead despite what happened.

[Edited 5/11/16 2:12am]

"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #981 posted 05/11/16 3:16am

TheEnglishGent

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Rebeljuice said:

TheEnglishGent said:


I might end up sounding like a crazy conspiracy theorist, but my idea of how he ended up in the elevator is this...

I'm thinking he was at Paisly and he was on one floor but felt the urge to visit a different floor. Faced with this dilemma he clearly had two choices, take the stairs, or take the elevator. Why he chose the elevator I do not know, this part of the mystery may never be answered to our complete satisfaction. Anyway, once he'd made the elevator decision, it seems highly likely that he then pressed the 'call' button to summon the elevator. I only say highly likely and not definitely because I don't know if the elevator was already on the floor and the doors may have still been open from Prince's arival on this particular level of the building, I don't know the exact workings of the elevator Prince had. For each answer I know I have another question reveals itself.

Upon entering the elevator I assume that Prince pressed another button, this time to select the destination floor. But again, I don't know for sure. Maybe he entered, the door shut and he didn't get to choose his floor. Was he going down which would have been so Princely considering he sung songs about going down, or was he truly going to 'punch a higher floor'? Either way there's a huge connection to his music and again, it's just another unanswered question.

Why couldn't you have just taken the stairs Prince? Why? sad

I like your theory, but as you say, it just asks more and more questions. I mean, did he really want to go to another floor? Is that really the only use an elevator has? And, why are we calling it an elevator when clearly we both want to call it a lift? Questions questions...


I typed lift 3 or more times and 'corrected' it because I thought it would confuse people. lol lol

Are we gonna let de lift bring us down?

RIP sad
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Reply #982 posted 05/11/16 3:17am

TheEnglishGent

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Bohemian67 said:

I hate this thread and the details. Just nothing makes sense and the elevator business drives me nuts.

.

Prince tweets 'despite Influenza the planet is still priceless' - strange connection I find if it's only flu.

Then the rumours are that he was 'unconscious' literally a few hours after his concert and that it was an opiod overdose? What? Prince on opiods? Can barely believe it. Could it be that mixed witht he concert adrenalin and heavy painkillers that it was too much and he lost consciousness? Still honestly unbelievable.

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The heavy pain killers were the opioids.

[Edited 5/11/16 3:18am]

RIP sad
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Reply #983 posted 05/11/16 3:29am

Mkilpatrick74

Rebeljuice said:



RobotDevil said:




FunkiestOne said:


http://www.nydailynews.co...-1.2632248


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So the doctor did tests on Prince on the 20th and was going to PP on the 21st to give him the test results. What could this have been for? What kind of tests?


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And the doctor no longer works at the hospital so was he fired or resigned in the last two weeks??


[Edited 5/10/16 18:09pm]



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Well, since we don't yet know for sure what medical problems Prince may have had besides the chronic pain and addiction issues, any guess as to what tests may have been done are as good as any other guess.


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Tests that I'd assume that were likely done were checking his electrolytes (not eating properly or drinking enough can mess with those, as can viruses, medications, all sorts of things...and an imbalance in your electrolytes can cause lot of problems in and of itself), probably checking his blood counts. Those are only a couple basic tests that for someone in Prince's situation of precarious health, a decent doctor would monitor. But again, any other tests? Who can guess? We don't have enough answers to the big questions to even try to guess at the answers to related questions like which tests might have been run.



Maybe that is where the low red blood count story came from. This doctor leaked the reults of his test and has been fired for doing so.



I've got a gut feeling this man resigned. Any others? The warrent to his office. States they believe a crime was committed. Do all warrants use that as a blanket reason? Never paid ATTN before now
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Reply #984 posted 05/11/16 3:31am

Mkilpatrick74

nursev said:

Any time u have more than one doctor seeing a client there is a potential for problems. I bet Prince was taking prescriptions from both the detox doctor and the family practice MD and the medications were incompatible. Its sounds like he may have had some type of adverse reaction and it killed him. My poor baby sad Too much going on and too many people with their hands on him.



I'm thinking same thing. Said he didn't prescribe pain meds, so I'm wondering if he gave him sleeping pills. If he did that is a really deadly combo.
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Reply #985 posted 05/11/16 3:40am

Mkilpatrick74

Mkilpatrick74 said:[quote]

nursev said:

Any time u have more than one doctor seeing a client there is a potential for problems. I bet Prince was taking prescriptions from both the detox doctor and the family practice MD and the medications were incompatible. Its sounds like he may have had some type of adverse reaction and it killed him. My poor baby sad Too much going on and too many people with their hands on him.



I'm curious who was gonna give him the suboxone in Dr backpack that morning. Nine of them legally able to do so. Not even that family Dr.
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Reply #986 posted 05/11/16 4:36am

cardinal

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

nursev said:

Any time u have more than one doctor seeing a client there is a potential for problems. I bet Prince was taking prescriptions from both the detox doctor and the family practice MD and the medications were incompatible. Its sounds like he may have had some type of adverse reaction and it killed him. My poor baby sad Too much going on and too many people with their hands on him.



I'm thinking same thing. Said he didn't prescribe pain meds, so I'm wondering if he gave him sleeping pills. If he did that is a really deadly combo.


dr drew said its almost never the opioids that kill alone. its when a patient can't sleep and is prescribed a benzo to relax, then they die. he said EVEN WHEN PATIENTS TAKE THEM AS PRESCRIBED THEY CAN DIE. so many in the press want to lay this on prince, when it is another sign of our greed driven corporate medical system at work. poor prince.
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"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #987 posted 05/11/16 5:19am

Mkilpatrick74

cardinal said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:



I'm thinking same thing. Said he didn't prescribe pain meds, so I'm wondering if he gave him sleeping pills. If he did that is a really deadly combo.


dr drew said its almost never the opioids that kill alone. its when a patient can't sleep and is prescribed a benzo to relax, then they die. he said EVEN WHEN PATIENTS TAKE THEM AS PRESCRIBED THEY CAN DIE. so many in the press want to lay this on prince, when it is another sign of our greed driven corporate medical system at work. poor prince.
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"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl


I saw that show w Dr. drew. He seems to be speaking reasonably. I know that I can't sleep but like 2 or 3 hrz at a time and I spoke w my pain mgt Dr about it and she said she would never give me anything for it BC of my pain meds. Said she loves me too much and prefers I not die anytime soon. My heart hurts more and more with each report that comes out.💞💕
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Reply #988 posted 05/11/16 5:53am

cardinal

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

cardinal said:



dr drew said its almost never the opioids that kill alone. its when a patient can't sleep and is prescribed a benzo to relax, then they die. he said EVEN WHEN PATIENTS TAKE THEM AS PRESCRIBED THEY CAN DIE. so many in the press want to lay this on prince, when it is another sign of our greed driven corporate medical system at work. poor prince.
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"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl


I saw that show w Dr. drew. He seems to be speaking reasonably. I know that I can't sleep but like 2 or 3 hrz at a time and I spoke w my pain mgt Dr about it and she said she would never give me anything for it BC of my pain meds. Said she loves me too much and prefers I not die anytime soon. My heart hurts more and more with each report that comes out.💞💕


and your dr is the exact kind of dr prince needed. dr drew said i think that same day that if a dr is giving a patient "special treatment"because of their fame, then they are getting crappy care. yes, it is getting sadder by the minute. and i fear it will just get worse. paul stanley tweeted out that when you have that kind of hip pain, the pain never ends (he had a double hip replacement to relieve his pain) and that we shouldn't be judging.

(tears)
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #989 posted 05/11/16 6:02am

keenly

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rlittler81 said:

Thank you.

Thank you for saying this. I think there are some people out there that are not aware of this: Heterosexuals get infected with HIV and die of AIDS too.

HIV has never been isolated.

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