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Reply #930 posted 05/10/16 6:01am

starkitty

headtripparade said:

starkitty said:
man. things just don't add up. if prince was on a high dose of Percocet, to the point of dependence, how was he doing hours long shows without at least slurring? the man was on point. I don't get it.
It's not uncommon for people who are dependent on painkillers to be on point as long as the drugs are on board. Many times its when the drugs begin to leave the system that physical and personality changes begin to take place.

but i mean, i'm familiar with percocet. i take it a lot - currently 50-75% of the time. i take the smallest dose possible to alleviate pain and still function, but commensurate with the pain level, and it sounded like his pain level was high. shit, if you take enough to cause respiratory failure, seems like there would definitely be some signs.

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you know what i mean? he was clear and focused. unless he was a master class in controlling his dosage, which he didn't seem to be, i feel like there would have been some evidence. and we really didn't see any. not one interview; not one performance.

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Reply #931 posted 05/10/16 6:40am

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1contessa said:

FunkiestOne said:

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Yes it is called "the flu". He supposedly tweeted that he was sick with the flu before the ATL shows were even postponed so no reason for him to make that up.

None of us knows what the real truth is, and even if Prince did say it was "the flu" doesn't mean that that's what it really was. How many celebs have lied to the public, only later you find out what was said about them was true? Do you honestly think that celebs don't lie to their fans? Celebs lives consist of smoke and mirrors and the image they want to put out there. I don't care who the celeb is, you can't be that gulliable to believe everything they say as truth?

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He had no incentive to lie at that point. What was his motive? This was several days before the Atlanta shows were even postponed.

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Reply #932 posted 05/10/16 7:04am

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FunkiestOne said:



1contessa said:




FunkiestOne said:



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Yes it is called "the flu". He supposedly tweeted that he was sick with the flu before the ATL shows were even postponed so no reason for him to make that up.



None of us knows what the real truth is, and even if Prince did say it was "the flu" doesn't mean that that's what it really was. How many celebs have lied to the public, only later you find out what was said about them was true? Do you honestly think that celebs don't lie to their fans? Celebs lives consist of smoke and mirrors and the image they want to put out there. I don't care who the celeb is, you can't be that gulliable to believe everything they say as truth?



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He had no incentive to lie at that point. What was his motive? This was several days before the Atlanta shows were even postponed.



we keep hearing that when one tries to wean off pain meds, the withdrawal mimics the flu. or he may have actually had the flu. either way, with his fairly strict religious pov, i can't see him knowingly lying. that is a big no no in any religion.
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"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl
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And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #933 posted 05/10/16 7:07am

novabrkr

I hope this is not in poor taste, but...

I just watched a news clip on Yahoo where a female reporter ended the insert by saying something along the lines of, "Many people are asking the question why didn't Prince seek treatment from specialists when some of the top clinics of the country were right there in Minneapolis.".

And, I just had to laugh at it, "Because he was Prince, dumbasses." Most people just didn't know him like us fans. We really don't find it that surprising that he'd not seek help in time. There's something strangely "comforting" about still being able to "know him better than most" even if he's dead.

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Reply #934 posted 05/10/16 7:08am

starkitty

IF it was a lie, IF, that could've easily been his rep's lie.

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Reply #935 posted 05/10/16 7:54am

canadianbeauti
fulone

Will we ever hear the autopsy results? Seems long to me... Thanks from canada wink
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Reply #936 posted 05/10/16 8:11am

hollywooddove

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novabrkr said:

I hope this is not in poor taste, but...

I just watched a news clip on Yahoo where a female reporter ended the insert by saying something along the lines of, "Many people are asking the question why didn't Prince seek treatment from specialists when some of the top clinics of the country were right there in Minneapolis.".

And, I just had to laugh at it, "Because he was Prince, dumbasses." Most people just didn't know him like us fans. We really don't find it that surprising that he'd not seek help in time. There's something strangely "comforting" about still being able to "know him better than most" even if he's dead.

Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.

Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.

And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.

We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #937 posted 05/10/16 8:49am

avajane

I do think this past year he was trying to lay off the pain killers and he did without professional aid so he developed a flu and had more pain, more pain, more painkillers. His weight also played a role, he has always been thin, but at certain times in his life he would be extremely thin like these last couple of months.
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Reply #938 posted 05/10/16 9:08am

starkitty

i'm still going back to the atlanta shows. there was no evidence that he was:

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a) in pain

b) agitated

c) actually on percocet - i.e., slurring, drinking a lot of water

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in fact, my friend's friend who was at the final performance (second show of the night) said he didn't drink water at all during the show. his tongue would have been stuck to the roof of his mouth if he had taken some. and if he was dependent, he would've been short tempered and agitated, not warm, open and embracing the audience.

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i'm just saying, something doesn't add up. i'm not a conspiracy theorist, and it's quite possible that his pain flared up after the show and he doubled up on his dose to try to compensate. no food and a small frame and that shit'll fuck you up.

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but addiction, i'm not buying. we've seen addicted stars. we know what that looks like (whitney, michael, hell, alexander o'neal sweating profusely). there weren't obvious signs here.

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Reply #939 posted 05/10/16 10:53am

TheEnglishGent

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hollywooddove said:

novabrkr said:

I hope this is not in poor taste, but...

I just watched a news clip on Yahoo where a female reporter ended the insert by saying something along the lines of, "Many people are asking the question why didn't Prince seek treatment from specialists when some of the top clinics of the country were right there in Minneapolis.".

And, I just had to laugh at it, "Because he was Prince, dumbasses." Most people just didn't know him like us fans. We really don't find it that surprising that he'd not seek help in time. There's something strangely "comforting" about still being able to "know him better than most" even if he's dead.

Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.

Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.

And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.


You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted

RIP sad
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Reply #940 posted 05/10/16 11:04am

Beautifulstarr
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2freaky4church1 said:

We will never see those eyes again. cry

I know sad heart

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Reply #941 posted 05/10/16 11:05am

Beautifulstarr
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TheEnglishGent said:

hollywooddove said:

Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.

Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.

And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.


You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted

I hope not eek

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Reply #942 posted 05/10/16 12:39pm

hollywooddove

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TheEnglishGent said:

hollywooddove said:

Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.

Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.

And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.


You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted

I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.

We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #943 posted 05/10/16 12:51pm

avajane

hollywooddove said:



TheEnglishGent said:




hollywooddove said:



Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.



Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.



And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.




You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted



I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.


Also, JW's hold Jesus's memorial of his death starting on Nisan 14, which is the Jewish passover. Which in 2016 took place a day after Prince's death I think.
Love is God,
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Reply #944 posted 05/10/16 12:56pm

WordOnTheStree
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novabrkr said:

I hope this is not in poor taste, but...

I just watched a news clip on Yahoo where a female reporter ended the insert by saying something along the lines of, "Many people are asking the question why didn't Prince seek treatment from specialists when some of the top clinics of the country were right there in Minneapolis.".

And, I just had to laugh at it, "Because he was Prince, dumbasses." Most people just didn't know him like us fans. We really don't find it that surprising that he'd not seek help in time. There's something strangely "comforting" about still being able to "know him better than most" even if he's dead.



I had thought that at first too. There are some really great treatment facilities right here in MN. But maybe he already tried them and they didn't work for him.
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Reply #945 posted 05/10/16 1:15pm

tigerLily77

Beautifulstarr123 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

We will never see those eyes again. cry

I know sad heart

stop sad

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Reply #946 posted 05/10/16 1:52pm

cardinal

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hollywooddove said:



TheEnglishGent said:




hollywooddove said:



Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.



Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.



And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.




You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted



I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.



i won't deny that you make a compelling case. but suicide is absolutely against the tenets of jw and basically all the abrahamic faiths, and some other faiths, too. even if he was moving a bit from a strict jw religion, its hard to imagine that he moved so far away as to take his own life. he also seemed to have plans, for the tour, the new instruments, the book.

i agree that the coincidences are mind blowing, and the elevator...what are the odds that THAT was the place he dropped or lost consciousness?

still...hard to reconcile suicide with the religious view he has had for 15 years, and even before that (7th day adventist).

my head hurts.....

"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #947 posted 05/10/16 2:06pm

bflan

http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html

Kirk Johnson, told investigators that Prince had also been hospitalized in either 2014 or 2015 and had to be treated with fluids, according to the warrant.

Prince had seen a Minneapolis-area doctor on the day before he died, and that doctor was at Prince's Paisley Park compound to deliver test results on the morning Prince was found dead, according to court records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

[Edited 5/10/16 14:11pm]

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Reply #948 posted 05/10/16 2:19pm

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bflan said:

http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html

Kirk Johnson, told investigators that Prince had also been hospitalized in either 2014 or 2015 and had to be treated with fluids, according to the warrant.

Prince had seen a Minneapolis-area doctor on the day before he died, and that doctor was at Prince's Paisley Park compound to deliver test results on the morning Prince was found dead, according to court records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

[Edited 5/10/16 14:11pm]

I just read the article. Can't wait to get all this speculation, etc. over with. Reading the comments under that article made me sick.

Eventually every cloud runs out of rain.
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Reply #949 posted 05/10/16 2:22pm

hollywooddove

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cardinal said:

hollywooddove said:



TheEnglishGent said:




hollywooddove said:



Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.



Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.



And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms.




You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted



I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.



i won't deny that you make a compelling case. but suicide is absolutely against the tenets of jw and basically all the abrahamic faiths, and some other faiths, too. even if he was moving a bit from a strict jw religion, its hard to imagine that he moved so far away as to take his own life. he also seemed to have plans, for the tour, the new instruments, the book.

i agree that the coincidences are mind blowing, and the elevator...what are the odds that THAT was the place he dropped or lost consciousness?



still...hard to reconcile suicide with the religious view he has had for 15 years, and even before that (7th day adventist).

my head hurts.....

"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl


Prince always seemed, to me, to pick - choose - fabricate from JW to suit his own needs.
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Reply #950 posted 05/10/16 2:25pm

emesem

While I'm glad that he saw a "real" Dr it seems. Unfortunately he sucked.

(These updates are important should not be buried within 1000 page stickies).

bflan said:

http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html

Kirk Johnson, told investigators that Prince had also been hospitalized in either 2014 or 2015 and had to be treated with fluids, according to the warrant.

Prince had seen a Minneapolis-area doctor on the day before he died, and that doctor was at Prince's Paisley Park compound to deliver test results on the morning Prince was found dead, according to court records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

[Edited 5/10/16 14:11pm]

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Reply #951 posted 05/10/16 2:55pm

babynoz

bflan said:

http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html

Kirk Johnson, told investigators that Prince had also been hospitalized in either 2014 or 2015 and had to be treated with fluids, according to the warrant.

Prince had seen a Minneapolis-area doctor on the day before he died, and that doctor was at Prince's Paisley Park compound to deliver test results on the morning Prince was found dead, according to court records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

[Edited 5/10/16 14:11pm]




Thanks for the update. I noticed that the doctor no longer works there. Did you guys read the warrant? eek


"-The property above described constitutes evidence which tends to show a crime has been committed or tends to show that a particular person has committed a crime."



Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #952 posted 05/10/16 2:58pm

babynoz

hollywooddove said:

TheEnglishGent said:


You think Prince's chose to die in an elevator? whofarted

I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.



Nah, Prince compared the elevator to the devil. Why would he choose to take his last breath enclosed by an elevator/devil?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #953 posted 05/10/16 2:59pm

Mkilpatrick74

emesem said:

While I'm glad that he saw a "real" Dr it seems. Unfortunately he sucked.



(These updates are important should not be buried within 1000 page stickies).





bflan said:


http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html




Kirk Johnson, told investigators that Prince had also been hospitalized in either 2014 or 2015 and had to be treated with fluids, according to the warrant.




Prince had seen a Minneapolis-area doctor on the day before he died, and that doctor was at Prince's Paisley Park compound to deliver test results on the morning Prince was found dead, according to court records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.




[Edited 5/10/16 14:11pm]




Just a personal note on oxycodone, percocet, etc....I am 41 years old and just had my 10th spine surgery. I'm scarred From neck to tailbone. There is nothing they can do for the pain and its only got worse w each surgery but allowed me to get out of s wheelchair and walk again ! I see pain mgt every three months. Because the only pain relief I get is From meds and I've taken so long, like Prince, my body builds a tolerance after a while. When that happens Dr has to tweek dosage. The dose i have to take obviously highrr than norm. Thats after taking them since 2008. I know exactly what he felt. He just didn't want t to hurt any longer. And I'll admit some days you feel like u don't wanna go on. The suboxone would have helped big time. Pain relief and moving away from perc. If u net me you would never know I'm disabled or on meds. It's invisible injury. Also,
I think we will find underlying illness. God bless his soul.
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Reply #954 posted 05/10/16 3:02pm

Mkilpatrick74

starkitty said:



headtripparade said:


starkitty said:
man. things just don't add up. if prince was on a high dose of Percocet, to the point of dependence, how was he doing hours long shows without at least slurring? the man was on point. I don't get it.

It's not uncommon for people who are dependent on painkillers to be on point as long as the drugs are on board. Many times its when the drugs begin to leave the system that physical and personality changes begin to take place.


but i mean, i'm familiar with percocet. i take it a lot - currently 50-75% of the time. i take the smallest dose possible to alleviate pain and still function, but commensurate with the pain level, and it sounded like his pain level was high. shit, if you take enough to cause respiratory failure, seems like there would definitely be some signs.


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you know what i mean? he was clear and focused. unless he was a master class in controlling his dosage, which he didn't seem to be, i feel like there would have been some evidence. and we really didn't see any. not one interview; not one performance.



My meds make me sleep too. But some people it has opposite effect. Still if u met me you would never know I'm disabled. Just like him
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Reply #955 posted 05/10/16 3:37pm

norsknurse

The most interesting part of the new LA Times piece is that his MD was Family Practice, not a specialist. If his hip was falling apart he would be seeing a Orthopedic doc. If cancer, an oncologist, if AIDS another specialist. Why hand deliver test results? With every leak of info, it just gets more confusing.
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Reply #956 posted 05/10/16 3:58pm

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babynoz said:

hollywooddove said:

I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.



Nah, Prince compared the elevator to the devil. Why would he choose to take his last breath enclosed by an elevator/devil?

i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there

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Reply #957 posted 05/10/16 4:04pm

GirlBrother

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You know, Kirk has said that Prince was hospitalised in 2014 or 2015, at the Ridgeview Medical Center in Chaska.

http://www.startribune.co...378880371/

Addiction therapy/recovery doesn't appear to be one of their rehab services.

https://www.ridgeviewmedi.../services/
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Reply #958 posted 05/10/16 4:05pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_DEATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting May 10th 6:31 EDT that a Minnesota doctor treated Prince and prescribed him medicine.

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Reply #959 posted 05/10/16 4:18pm

mrwiggles

XxAxX said:



babynoz said:




hollywooddove said:



I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned.





Nah, Prince compared the elevator to the devil. Why would he choose to take his last breath enclosed by an elevator/devil?



i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there



Do you believe in spirits? All I'm saying is the Universe has a way of setting things up somehow.
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