but i mean, i'm familiar with percocet. i take it a lot - currently 50-75% of the time. i take the smallest dose possible to alleviate pain and still function, but commensurate with the pain level, and it sounded like his pain level was high. shit, if you take enough to cause respiratory failure, seems like there would definitely be some signs. . . you know what i mean? he was clear and focused. unless he was a master class in controlling his dosage, which he didn't seem to be, i feel like there would have been some evidence. and we really didn't see any. not one interview; not one performance. | |
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. He had no incentive to lie at that point. What was his motive? This was several days before the Atlanta shows were even postponed. | |
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FunkiestOne said:
. He had no incentive to lie at that point. What was his motive? This was several days before the Atlanta shows were even postponed. we keep hearing that when one tries to wean off pain meds, the withdrawal mimics the flu. or he may have actually had the flu. either way, with his fairly strict religious pov, i can't see him knowingly lying. that is a big no no in any religion. . "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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I hope this is not in poor taste, but... | |
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IF it was a lie, IF, that could've easily been his rep's lie. | |
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Will we ever hear the autopsy results? Seems long to me... Thanks from canada | |
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Which is why I believe Prince was in complete control of his departure.
Once again, I know I will take a lot of hate and side glances with this.
And oddly, it gives me great peace to believe he was. It would just be a true act of Prince in my mind to leave this world on his terms. We are all so full of here | |
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I do think this past year he was trying to lay off the pain killers and he did without professional aid so he developed a flu and had more pain, more pain, more painkillers. His weight also played a role, he has always been thin, but at certain times in his life he would be extremely thin like these last couple of months. Love is God,
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i'm still going back to the atlanta shows. there was no evidence that he was: . a) in pain b) agitated c) actually on percocet - i.e., slurring, drinking a lot of water . in fact, my friend's friend who was at the final performance (second show of the night) said he didn't drink water at all during the show. his tongue would have been stuck to the roof of his mouth if he had taken some. and if he was dependent, he would've been short tempered and agitated, not warm, open and embracing the audience. . i'm just saying, something doesn't add up. i'm not a conspiracy theorist, and it's quite possible that his pain flared up after the show and he doubled up on his dose to try to compensate. no food and a small frame and that shit'll fuck you up. . but addiction, i'm not buying. we've seen addicted stars. we know what that looks like (whitney, michael, hell, alexander o'neal sweating profusely). there weren't obvious signs here. | |
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RIP | |
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I know | |
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I hope not | |
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I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned. We are all so full of here | |
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I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned. Also, JW's hold Jesus's memorial of his death starting on Nisan 14, which is the Jewish passover. Which in 2016 took place a day after Prince's death I think. Love is God,
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novabrkr said: I hope this is not in poor taste, but... I had thought that at first too. There are some really great treatment facilities right here in MN. But maybe he already tried them and they didn't work for him. | |
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hollywooddove said:
I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned. i won't deny that you make a compelling case. but suicide is absolutely against the tenets of jw and basically all the abrahamic faiths, and some other faiths, too. even if he was moving a bit from a strict jw religion, its hard to imagine that he moved so far away as to take his own life. he also seemed to have plans, for the tour, the new instruments, the book. i agree that the coincidences are mind blowing, and the elevator...what are the odds that THAT was the place he dropped or lost consciousness? still...hard to reconcile suicide with the religious view he has had for 15 years, and even before that (7th day adventist). my head hurts..... "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html
[Edited 5/10/16 14:11pm] | |
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I just read the article. Can't wait to get all this speculation, etc. over with. Reading the comments under that article made me sick. Eventually every cloud runs out of rain. | |
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cardinal said: hollywooddove said:
I do. It leads back to his music. Let's Go Crazy. And also April 21st? Give me one coincidence and I shrug, but two in a row... then I begin to ponder. That with his statement of save your prayers... that's 3 out of the ball park. I think he was sick, saw the end coming, and made his way out, with tons of mystery. It just all seems so planned. i won't deny that you make a compelling case. but suicide is absolutely against the tenets of jw and basically all the abrahamic faiths, and some other faiths, too. even if he was moving a bit from a strict jw religion, its hard to imagine that he moved so far away as to take his own life. he also seemed to have plans, for the tour, the new instruments, the book. i agree that the coincidences are mind blowing, and the elevator...what are the odds that THAT was the place he dropped or lost consciousness? still...hard to reconcile suicide with the religious view he has had for 15 years, and even before that (7th day adventist). my head hurts..... "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta Prince always seemed, to me, to pick - choose - fabricate from JW to suit his own needs. We are all so full of here | |
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While I'm glad that he saw a "real" Dr it seems. Unfortunately he sucked.
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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emesem said: While I'm glad that he saw a "real" Dr it seems. Unfortunately he sucked.
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Just a personal note on oxycodone, percocet, etc....I am 41 years old and just had my 10th spine surgery. I'm scarred From neck to tailbone. There is nothing they can do for the pain and its only got worse w each surgery but allowed me to get out of s wheelchair and walk again ! I see pain mgt every three months. Because the only pain relief I get is From meds and I've taken so long, like Prince, my body builds a tolerance after a while. When that happens Dr has to tweek dosage. The dose i have to take obviously highrr than norm. Thats after taking them since 2008. I know exactly what he felt. He just didn't want t to hurt any longer. And I'll admit some days you feel like u don't wanna go on. The suboxone would have helped big time. Pain relief and moving away from perc. If u net me you would never know I'm disabled or on meds. It's invisible injury. Also, I think we will find underlying illness. God bless his soul. | |
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but i mean, i'm familiar with percocet. i take it a lot - currently 50-75% of the time. i take the smallest dose possible to alleviate pain and still function, but commensurate with the pain level, and it sounded like his pain level was high. shit, if you take enough to cause respiratory failure, seems like there would definitely be some signs. . . you know what i mean? he was clear and focused. unless he was a master class in controlling his dosage, which he didn't seem to be, i feel like there would have been some evidence. and we really didn't see any. not one interview; not one performance. My meds make me sleep too. But some people it has opposite effect. Still if u met me you would never know I'm disabled. Just like him | |
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The most interesting part of the new LA Times piece is that his MD was Family Practice, not a specialist. If his hip was falling apart he would be seeing a Orthopedic doc. If cancer, an oncologist, if AIDS another specialist. Why hand deliver test results? With every leak of info, it just gets more confusing. | |
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i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there | |
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You know, Kirk has said that Prince was hospitalised in 2014 or 2015, at the Ridgeview Medical Center in Chaska. http://www.startribune.co...378880371/ Addiction therapy/recovery doesn't appear to be one of their rehab services. https://www.ridgeviewmedi.../services/ | |
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_DEATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
The Associated Press is reporting May 10th 6:31 EDT that a Minnesota doctor treated Prince and prescribed him medicine. | |
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i admit this detail is something i find truly disturbing. like, how/why did he get there Do you believe in spirits? All I'm saying is the Universe has a way of setting things up somehow. | |
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