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Reply #210 posted 01/28/16 12:39pm

EroticDreamer

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

blacknote said:

It's a damn shame.

Does ANY other artist release as much muziq as prince does? Hell no! Which is why he has run out of options. What record label is going to keep releasing new muziq by the same artist every few weeks or months NONE! So deal with it or go follow another boring artist..

Cmon, those various unlicensed people putting out all those Prince bootleg CD's get it done and there's way more of those than official Prince CD's.

You tellin' us Prince can't outsmart and outdo those small-timers?

-

Your messages are always positive and congratulations on your distribution but don't be angry at us for voicing unhappiness with these reaccurring circumstances.

Prince has print-money options with his live shows and unreleased material and he's not changing with the times, he's trying to make the times change with him.

That's his choice, and right, but we gotz the right to call it as we see it as too.

Prince supplies the music, we're willing to hand over our cash so why this trouble that no one seems to have?

Prince, (whisper) call Amazon, please.

They'd be willing to give him front page advertisment. "Exclusively on Amazon: the new album by the 1 and only Prince".

peace

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Reply #211 posted 01/28/16 12:50pm

ludwig

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

ludwig said:

rolleyes

Are you living under a rock? Of course there are other artists who are releasing lots of music. Just open your eyes, look around and you will see. You don't have to like their music, but to dismiss other creative forces is ignorant. There are lots of very creative people outside prince-world.

Who has CONSTANTLY released new muziq yearly 4 almost 40 years? I'm waiting!

Btw I do admire other artist besides prince. But none of them has come even close 2 being as gifted to release as much muziq. I'm still waiting.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/finulanu/insanely_prolific_musicians/
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/may/19/music-most-productive-artists

[Edited 1/28/16 12:55pm]

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Reply #212 posted 01/28/16 12:52pm

Replica

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This is kinda what I love and "hate" by being a Prince fan. Nothing against Prince, but my ego clearly wants something he isn't giving me. I totally respect that! He must be allowed to do excatly what he wants with his own music. I'm sometimes wondering if he is doing all of this as a social experiment, that he in the long run will learn from. He does alot of unpopular choices. But he is also sometimes because of that, creating new business trends that people are copying years after. And some of these strategies has been very clever.

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Reply #213 posted 01/28/16 12:58pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

EroticDreamer said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Does ANY other artist release as much muziq as prince does? Hell no! Which is why he has run out of options. What record label is going to keep releasing new muziq by the same artist every few weeks or months NONE! So deal with it or go follow another boring artist..

Cmon, those various unlicensed people putting out all those Prince bootleg CD's get it done and there's way more of those than official Prince CD's.

You tellin' us Prince can't outsmart and outdo those small-timers?

-

Your messages are always positive and congratulations on your distribution but don't be angry at us for voicing unhappiness with these reaccurring circumstances.

Prince has print-money options with his live shows and unreleased material and he's not changing with the times, he's trying to make the times change with him.

That's his choice, and right, but we gotz the right to call it as we see it as too.

Prince supplies the music, we're willing to hand over our cash so why this trouble that no one seems to have?

Prince, (whisper) call Amazon, please.

They'd be willing to give him front page advertisment. "Exclusively on Amazon: the new album by the 1 and only Prince".

peace

prince prince prince prince prince prince prince

[Edited 1/28/16 13:22pm]

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #214 posted 01/28/16 1:01pm

IstenSzek

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i guess this means that HNR2 will be something like track 8 to 19 on Disc 4
of the next BFTP release falloff

woot!

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #215 posted 01/28/16 1:06pm

IstenSzek

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EroticDreamer said:

Cmon, those various unlicensed people putting out all those Prince bootleg CD's get it done and there's way more of those than official Prince CD's.

You tellin' us Prince can't outsmart and outdo those small-timers?

-

Your messages are always positive and congratulations on your distribution but don't be angry at us for voicing unhappiness with these reaccurring circumstances.

Prince has print-money options with his live shows and unreleased material and he's not changing with the times, he's trying to make the times change with him.

That's his choice, and right, but we gotz the right to call it as we see it as too.

Prince supplies the music, we're willing to hand over our cash so why this trouble that no one seems to have?

Prince, (whisper) call Amazon, please.

They'd be willing to give him front page advertisment. "Exclusively on Amazon: the new album by the 1 and only Prince".

peace

Have U been living under a rock? Why do U think he is doing this? No middle man period! Just from his hands to ours... Got it! Bootleggers have nothing to do with this. They'll always be around with their shady ways. But karma has a way of catching up with them.

Have U forgotton what prince has already done with distributing his muzq since he has been independent? Give him some credit..

but there is still a middle man! prince provided you (you're selling these too, right? i haven't read
the whole thread these past days anymore, i just couldn't bring myself to do so at this point) with
a bunch of copies.

you now sell those copies to prince's fans.

you are now the middle man.

you're a fan, a friend, a lover, a bunny boiler for prince whatever, but you are also, now the middle man.

so this set-up, to me at least, seems more convoluted than prince keeping all that stock at paisley
and taking orders, then shipping out direct. all it takes is a few employees. 1 or 2 should be enough.

aaaaaaanyway. it'll be interesting to see if prince moans and groans about the middle man again, if
this whole thing doesn't go as he wants it to. like, if the money doesn't flow back as soon, as much,
as honestly or as whatever.

you know he'll shove you under that bus, right? lol or maybe not. that's the interesting bit.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #216 posted 01/28/16 1:11pm

blacknote

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IstenSzek said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Have U been living under a rock? Why do U think he is doing this? No middle man period! Just from his hands to ours... Got it! Bootleggers have nothing to do with this. They'll always be around with their shady ways. But karma has a way of catching up with them.

Have U forgotton what prince has already done with distributing his muzq since he has been independent? Give him some credit..

but there is still a middle man! prince provided you (you're selling these too, right? i haven't read
the whole thread these past days anymore, i just couldn't bring myself to do so at this point) with
a bunch of copies.

you now sell those copies to prince's fans.

you are now the middle man.

you're a fan, a friend, a lover, a bunny boiler for prince whatever, but you are also, now the middle man.

so this set-up, to me at least, seems more convoluted than prince keeping all that stock at paisley
and taking orders, then shipping out direct. all it takes is a few employees. 1 or 2 should be enough.

aaaaaaanyway. it'll be interesting to see if prince moans and groans about the middle man again, if
this whole thing doesn't go as he wants it to. like, if the money doesn't flow back as soon, as much,
as honestly or as whatever.

you know he'll shove you under that bus, right? lol or maybe not. that's the interesting bit.

A purple coke mule? Wow, Prince really is innovative.

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Reply #217 posted 01/28/16 1:15pm

EroticDreamer

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EroticDreamer said:

Cmon, those various unlicensed people putting out all those Prince bootleg CD's get it done and there's way more of those than official Prince CD's.

You tellin' us Prince can't outsmart and outdo those small-timers?

-

Your messages are always positive and congratulations on your distribution but don't be angry at us for voicing unhappiness with these reaccurring circumstances.

Prince has print-money options with his live shows and unreleased material and he's not changing with the times, he's trying to make the times change with him.

That's his choice, and right, but we gotz the right to call it as we see it as too.

Prince supplies the music, we're willing to hand over our cash so why this trouble that no one seems to have?

Prince, (whisper) call Amazon, please.

They'd be willing to give him front page advertisment. "Exclusively on Amazon: the new album by the 1 and only Prince".

peace

Have U been living under a rock? Why do U think he is doing this? No middle man period! Just from his hands to ours... Got it! Bootleggers have nothing to do with this. They'll always be around with their shady ways. But karma has a way of catching up with them.

Have U forgotton what prince has already done with distributing his muzq since he has been independent? Give him some credit..

You said that with such authority it almost turned me on.

Call me, sometime, darling... kiss2

TOPIC- I want the P2 CD even though I already bought the P1 & P2 digital bundle (from Tidal) and P1 CD (from good ol' Amazon). bananadance

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Reply #218 posted 01/28/16 1:32pm

EroticDreamer

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EroticDreamer said:

Cmon, those various unlicensed people putting out all those Prince bootleg CD's get it done and there's way more of those than official Prince CD's.

You tellin' us Prince can't outsmart and outdo those small-timers?

-

Your messages are always positive and congratulations on your distribution but don't be angry at us for voicing unhappiness with these reaccurring circumstances.

Prince has print-money options with his live shows and unreleased material and he's not changing with the times, he's trying to make the times change with him.

That's his choice, and right, but we gotz the right to call it as we see it as too.

Prince supplies the music, we're willing to hand over our cash so why this trouble that no one seems to have?

Prince, (whisper) call Amazon, please.

They'd be willing to give him front page advertisment. "Exclusively on Amazon: the new album by the 1 and only Prince".

peace

Have U been living under a rock? Why do U think he is doing this? No middle man period! Just from his hands to ours... Got it! Bootleggers have nothing to do with this. They'll always be around with their shady ways. But karma has a way of catching up with them.

Have U forgotton what prince has already done with distributing his muzq since he has been independent? Give him some credit..

But... but what about the Wrecka Stow employees?

They gotta eat too!

And I give credit where credit is due.... if it wasn't for the fans that buy all his music Prince would be... a who? cool

(If a tree falls in a forest and no 1 hears it, does it make a sound?)

-

I don't believe this course of distribution you're gearing up for is viable for long-term success.

Prince realizes that Warner Bros was right all that time!

WB tried so hard... if they took losses with Paisly Park for years so why won't Prince give a few pennies to the middleman?

The fans are the ones now with 'SLAVE' written on their cheek's.

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Reply #219 posted 01/28/16 1:46pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

ludwig said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Who has CONSTANTLY released new muziq yearly 4 almost 40 years? I'm waiting!

Btw I do admire other artist besides prince. But none of them has come even close 2 being as gifted to release as much muziq. I'm still waiting.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/finulanu/insanely_prolific_musicians/
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/may/19/music-most-productive-artists

[Edited 1/28/16 12:55pm]

Good comparison

But forty-five albums under his own name, no big deal when compared to Sun Ra. But consider the amount of songs he's written for his various side projects. Then consider that he probably has another forty-five albums worth of material locked away in his vaults. Prince writes songs at the same rate most of us breathe.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #220 posted 01/28/16 2:50pm

dodger

blacknote said:



IstenSzek said:




KCOOLMUZIQ said:



Have U been living under a rock? Why do U think he is doing this? No middle man period! Just from his hands to ours... Got it! Bootleggers have nothing to do with this. They'll always be around with their shady ways. But karma has a way of catching up with them.



Have U forgotton what prince has already done with distributing his muzq since he has been independent? Give him some credit..






but there is still a middle man! prince provided you (you're selling these too, right? i haven't read
the whole thread these past days anymore, i just couldn't bring myself to do so at this point) with
a bunch of copies.

you now sell those copies to prince's fans.

you are now the middle man.

you're a fan, a friend, a lover, a bunny boiler for prince whatever, but you are also, now the middle man.

so this set-up, to me at least, seems more convoluted than prince keeping all that stock at paisley
and taking orders, then shipping out direct. all it takes is a few employees. 1 or 2 should be enough.

aaaaanyway. it'll be interesting to see if prince moans and groans about the middle man again, if
this whole thing doesn't go as he wants it to. like, if the money doesn't flow back as soon, as much,
as honestly or as whatever.

you know he'll shove you under that bus, right? lol or maybe not. that's the interesting bit.




A purple coke mule? Wow, Prince really is innovative.




lol it's going to end in tears for these fans dealing with the Prince man, you can see it a mile off.
.
They'll have to pay upfront for a shit load of CDs that they'll never be able to sell. KCool will have a garage full for the next 77 years
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Reply #221 posted 01/28/16 3:34pm

tatocorcu

I believe this new business model is not to eliminate the middle man, but rather to get the middle man to do their job for free...
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Reply #222 posted 01/28/16 3:44pm

theartistirl

master said:



Militant said:


Just to clear something up - someone at Paisley Park (I think probably Trevor and/or Meron) is handling this by offering wholesale prices to fans in different areas.

So you've got Sam from TheDigitalGardens handling Minnesota and pretty much anywhere through her site. You've got Dorothy who is based in Seattle who is handling a bunch of them via FB groups. I know of another fan in Holland who is handling Europe (so if you don't wanna pay a large shipping charge then it's probably best to go through her). And chances are there's gonna be more.

I think the point is that most active Prince fans will know at least one of these people, and be happy to order via their friends.



which fan in holland is selling them as would prefer to to buy inside europe




Me too. Europe please...
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Reply #223 posted 01/28/16 3:58pm

MadeUpName

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A week ago, I posted on this thread that seeing as Prince currently HAS an online business devoted 2 selling some of his merchandise and music, 3rd Eye Tunes, he should just send some boxes of the HnR2 album over 2 them 2 merchandise legitimately. Heck, he might even move some more BALTIMORE and FREE URSELF tees in the process. http://3rdeyetunes.com/

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Reply #224 posted 01/28/16 4:14pm

Milty2

Is this album even in stores? I thought I saw a picture of it at retail.

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Reply #225 posted 01/28/16 4:59pm

luvsexy4all

but r these fan distributers taking a profit for there efforts? so he doesnt want fans to rip each other off..so basically this is slave labor...

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Reply #226 posted 01/28/16 5:14pm

djThunderfunk

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Just got my CD in the mail from a fan who lives in MN (Thanks again!!).

Sure, I'd rather pick one up in a store or order from Amazon, but most importantly, I was able to buy a CD which is always preferrable to a digital copy.

So, you do you, Prince. Whatever you gotta do, keep putting out CDs for us old school collectors!

music

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Reply #227 posted 01/28/16 5:23pm

npgmaverick

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Why would Prince want me to seek out a random stranger on the internet, send them money in hopes of getting a CD rather than being able to buy one from a legit retailer online or in-store?

Oh, right. Prince already got his money for those CDs so he doesn't care.

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Reply #228 posted 01/28/16 5:36pm

luvsexy4all

npgmaverick said:

Why would Prince want me to seek out a random stranger on the internet, send them money in hopes of getting a CD rather than being able to buy one from a legit retailer online or in-store?

Oh, right. Prince already got his money for those CDs so he doesn't care.

no...its cheaper to have fans do the work....

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Reply #229 posted 01/28/16 6:15pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Prince - The Work Pt. 1

The Work Pt. 1
Every time I watch the other people news
I c a false picture of myself, another one of u
They try 2 tell us what we want, what 2 believe
Didn't that happen in the Garden
When somebody spoke 2 Eve?
But I'm willing 2 do The Work
Willing 2 do what I gotta do
I'm willing 2 do The Work
Tell me now - what about u?

Look around and tell me ur Sun is Risen
When ur brothers and sisters r in the Fall
What is left 2 give when r work is done?
What do we own besides the right 2 crawl?

C we're living in a system that the devil designed
And suffering from this devil's most heinous crime
He's tried 2 keep us from the reason we were born
That is 2 b the living truth in human 4m

But I'm willing 2 do The Work
Willing 2 do what I gotta do
I'm willing 2 do The Work


Tell me now - what about u?

This work is not an easy task
But this is the work we must do 4 Revelation 2 come 2 pass
This work is the kind that turns ur back on the Ruling Class
By putting them in their place just like the past

Taste it, ain't it sweet sweet?
Gotta lotta work 2 do
Taste it, ain't it sweet sweet?
Gotta lotta work 2 do

Nothing can stop us
Whatever's in r way
We got 2 go thru it 2 get 2 it
I heard somebody say,

"I'm willing 2 do The Work
Willing 2 do what I gotta do
I'm willing 2 do The Work
Tell me now - what about u?"
Thank u


  • Writer(s): Prince Rogers Nelson
    Copyright: NPGMusicPublishing

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #230 posted 01/28/16 8:14pm

redflag

Electric Fetus (a Minneapolis record store with a legit e-commerce site) has now been cleared to accept online orders for Phase Two and Back In Time.

http://www.electricfetus....sItem/5873

[Edited 1/28/16 20:28pm]

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Reply #231 posted 01/28/16 8:25pm

npgmaverick

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luvsexy4all said:

npgmaverick said:

Why would Prince want me to seek out a random stranger on the internet, send them money in hopes of getting a CD rather than being able to buy one from a legit retailer online or in-store?

Oh, right. Prince already got his money for those CDs so he doesn't care.

no...its cheaper to have fans do the work....

nod

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Reply #232 posted 01/28/16 8:38pm

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redflag said:

Electric Fetus (a Minneapolis record store with a legit e-commerce site) has now been cleared to accept online orders for Phase Two and Back In Time.


http://www.electricfetus....sItem/5873

[Edited 1/28/16 20:28pm]


Thanks. smile
What?
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Reply #233 posted 01/28/16 8:49pm

djThunderfunk

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redflag said:

Electric Fetus (a Minneapolis record store with a legit e-commerce site) has now been cleared to accept online orders for Phase Two and Back In Time.

http://www.electricfetus....sItem/5873

[Edited 1/28/16 20:28pm]


Sweeet! I'll be ordering a physical copy of Judith's CD next payday!! cool

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Reply #234 posted 01/28/16 8:54pm

jlucky

redflag said:

Electric Fetus (a Minneapolis record store with a legit e-commerce site) has now been cleared to accept online orders for Phase Two and Back In Time.


http://www.electricfetus....sItem/5873

[Edited 1/28/16 20:28pm]


Shoot, I should have waited and ordered from Electric Fetus. I would have saved $ on shipping.
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Reply #235 posted 01/28/16 11:43pm

Smillan

redflag said:

Electric Fetus (a Minneapolis record store with a legit e-commerce site) has now been cleared to accept online orders for Phase Two and Back In Time.

http://www.electricfetus....sItem/5873

[Edited 1/28/16 20:28pm]

Thankx. Any idea on what post would be to Europe (Ireland)? Cheers

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Reply #236 posted 01/28/16 11:47pm

udo

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redflag said:

Electric Fetus (a Minneapolis record store with a legit e-commerce site) has now been cleared to accept online orders for Phase Two and Back In Time.

http://www.electricfetus....sItem/5873

.

Great news!
But if this is nowadays 'worldwide distribution'... eek

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #237 posted 01/29/16 12:13am

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moderator

Smillan said:

Thankx. Any idea on what post would be to Europe (Ireland)? Cheers


Europe, USPS $13 (Cost for each additional item $2.50)



ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #238 posted 01/29/16 12:14am

derrick31

djThunderfunk said:

Just got my CD in the mail from a fan who lives in MN (Thanks again!!).

Sure, I'd rather pick one up in a store or order from Amazon, but most importantly, I was able to buy a CD which is always preferrable to a digital copy.


So, you do you, Prince. Whatever you gotta do, keep putting out CDs for us old school collectors!

music


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Reply #239 posted 01/29/16 12:47am

BoraBora

langebleu said:

Smillan said:

Thankx. Any idea on what post would be to Europe (Ireland)? Cheers


Europe, USPS $13 (Cost for each additional item $2.50)




Do "The Electric Fetus" site accept payment via Paypal?!?!?!?

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