gold31 said:

The first "outtakes" boot song(s) - Whatever the first songs were from The Royal Jewels LP set.

Remember The Royal Jewels? LOL! Hellaciaous quality, but man, talk about killer songs to hear for your first boot experience!

[Edited 11/3/15 17:49pm]

Yeah, I have it somewhere.

If I'm not wrong it was the 2nd bootleg of outtakes I buyed after "Chocolate Box".

AFAIK it was responsible for one of the great title mistakes ever, with "Crystal Ball" named "Export Lover" (and it wasn't the only one to be wrong, but I don't remember.

All in all, at that time it was a really nice item. Today it is good only for museum exposition.

"Open Book"

Shared to me by a good friend who used to post here. That one song opened the floodgate

RJOrion said:

does anyone know why the amazing original recording of "In A Large Room With No Light" was never released?...it makes no sense that a song that great wasnt on an official album, and was not a single

A lot of great material wasn't released at the time: P simply produced more than he could release even with the side-projects and songs given to random artists. He had to make choices.

OldFriends4Sale said:

RJOrion said:

does anyone know why the amazing original recording of "In A Large Room With No Light" was never released?...it makes no sense that a song that great wasnt on an official album, and was not a single

because it was to be on the Dream Factory album

a Lisa Coleman Wendy Melvoin piece like Power Fantastic also to be released on Dream Factory originally then pulled

It wasn't, it was on the second configuration then it got removed from the third (and last) one, and so was Power Fantastic.

IIRC Boris said once that that last config wasn't yet considered final by P before the band disbanded and he moved on to Camille then CB, so it's not entirely impossible that either track could finally have reintegrated the tracklist before release, but as far as we know the decision to remove it predated the band's end and therefore cannot be attributed to W&L's level of participation.

Also, I don't know why you say it's a WéL piece like PF: according to Princevault prince is the sole writer.

The first encoutner with unreleased songs that I can remember was getting Charade and Chocolate Box on vinyl in, I think, 1987.

1987... a young boy of 14 spent the last 3 years collecting all of Prince's released albums and 12" singles. Then I come across a peculiar classified ad in the back of "Goldmine" magazine for "Rare Prince Stuff." Thinking it was imports and the like, I enquire. I get back an offer for a tape containing 60 minutes of outtakes for $25. A King's ransom for a jobless teen. I scrape up the money, and send it off, completely prepared for being ripped off. Instead, I get a mysterious group of songs unlike anything I had heard before. A sampler of a new world I was just about to enter:

Side One:

The Ball, Joy In Repetition, Crystal Ball, Others Here With Us, Old Friends For Sale, All My Dreams

Side Two:

Movie Star, A Place IN Heaven, Rebirth Of The Flesh, Good Love, Let Me Feel U Up, Rock Hard IN A Funky Place, Heaven, U Call Me

From there, I traded tapes and acquired boots until about 1996, when the internet came along, then I trolled the digital purple underground for goodies.

My $0.02

Chas

REbirth Of The Flesh at Down in the Valley. Got a chance to listen to it because the whole disc cost 25.00 which I didnt have.

I was blown away at what I was hearing

databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

because it was to be on the Dream Factory album

a Lisa Coleman Wendy Melvoin piece like Power Fantastic also to be released on Dream Factory originally then pulled

It wasn't, it was on the second configuration then it got removed from the third (and last) one, and so was Power Fantastic.

IIRC Boris said once that that last config wasn't yet considered final by P before the band disbanded and he moved on to Camille then CB, so it's not entirely impossible that either track could finally have reintegrated the tracklist before release, but as far as we know the decision to remove it predated the band's end and therefore cannot be attributed to W&L's level of participation.

Also, I don't know why you say it's a WéL piece like PF: according to Princevault prince is the sole writer.

1.) You said, it wasn't to be on the Dream Factory album. I said it was and it was pulled (I did not say it was pulled because the band was disbanded. I said it was pulled like Power Fantastic was pulled -dealing with the various reconfigurations

2.)

TLM: Which are the most memorable tunes that you recorded with Prince and were released?

Eric Leeds: ... There's a song which I don't know has ever been released. It was a song of Wendy and Lisa's and it's known by various titles [including] "Welcome To The Rat Race," but was actually called "Life Is Like Looking For A Penny In A Large Room With No Light," It was Sheila, Wendy, Lisa, Prince, myself and a couple of horns and that was one my favourite songs...

OldFriends4Sale said:

databank said:

It wasn't, it was on the second configuration then it got removed from the third (and last) one, and so was Power Fantastic.

IIRC Boris said once that that last config wasn't yet considered final by P before the band disbanded and he moved on to Camille then CB, so it's not entirely impossible that either track could finally have reintegrated the tracklist before release, but as far as we know the decision to remove it predated the band's end and therefore cannot be attributed to W&L's level of participation.

Also, I don't know why you say it's a WéL piece like PF: according to Princevault prince is the sole writer.

1.) You said, it wasn't to be on the Dream Factory album. I said it was and it was pulled (I did not say it was pulled because the band was disbanded. I said it was pulled like Power Fantastic was pulled -dealing with the various reconfigurations

2.)

TLM: Which are the most memorable tunes that you recorded with Prince and were released?

Eric Leeds: ... There's a song which I don't know has ever been released. It was a song of Wendy and Lisa's and it's known by various titles [including] "Welcome To The Rat Race," but was actually called "Life Is Like Looking For A Penny In A Large Room With No Light," It was Sheila, Wendy, Lisa, Prince, myself and a couple of horns and that was one my favourite songs...

1) Sorry I misunderstood, my bad.

2) They played on it as on dozens of songs, but it wasn't "a W&L piece like Power Fantastic" (which they mostly composed).

Chas said:

1987... a young boy of 14 spent the last 3 years collecting all of Prince's released albums and 12" singles. Then I come across a peculiar classified ad in the back of "Goldmine" magazine for "Rare Prince Stuff." Thinking it was imports and the like, I enquire. I get back an offer for a tape containing 60 minutes of outtakes for $25. A King's ransom for a jobless teen. I scrape up the money, and send it off, completely prepared for being ripped off. Instead, I get a mysterious group of songs unlike anything I had heard before. A sampler of a new world I was just about to enter:

Side One:

The Ball, Joy In Repetition, Crystal Ball, Others Here With Us, Old Friends For Sale, All My Dreams

Side Two:

Movie Star, A Place IN Heaven, Rebirth Of The Flesh, Good Love, Let Me Feel U Up, Rock Hard IN A Funky Place, Heaven, U Call Me

From there, I traded tapes and acquired boots until about 1996, when the internet came along, then I trolled the digital purple underground for goodies.

My $0.02

Chas

I never knew Good Love had been leaked before release nor that Rock Hard leaked b4 the rest of TBA! They were never pressed on CD or vinyl even back then, though, were they?

databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1.) You said, it wasn't to be on the Dream Factory album. I said it was and it was pulled (I did not say it was pulled because the band was disbanded. I said it was pulled like Power Fantastic was pulled -dealing with the various reconfigurations

2.)

TLM: Which are the most memorable tunes that you recorded with Prince and were released?

Eric Leeds: ... There's a song which I don't know has ever been released. It was a song of Wendy and Lisa's and it's known by various titles [including] "Welcome To The Rat Race," but was actually called "Life Is Like Looking For A Penny In A Large Room With No Light," It was Sheila, Wendy, Lisa, Prince, myself and a couple of horns and that was one my favourite songs...

1) Sorry I misunderstood, my bad.

2) They played on it as on dozens of songs, but it wasn't "a W&L piece like Power Fantastic" (which they mostly composed).

1.) No problem at all

2.) how do you say it wasn't a W&L piece when Eric Leeds who performed on it says it is. And he wasn't the only person I heard that from.

OldFriends4Sale said:

databank said:

1) Sorry I misunderstood, my bad.

2) They played on it as on dozens of songs, but it wasn't "a W&L piece like Power Fantastic" (which they mostly composed).

1.) No problem at all

2.) how do you say it wasn't a W&L piece when Eric Leeds who performed on it says it is. And he wasn't the only person I heard that from.

I'm quite tired today, my bad, I'd missed the first part of Eric's quote (which I'd read years ago but I forgot the details) and based my reply only on the last sentence. Pvault should correct the entry accordingly. Sorry for this whole nonsense I've been giving u today

databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1.) No problem at all

2.) how do you say it wasn't a W&L piece when Eric Leeds who performed on it says it is. And he wasn't the only person I heard that from.

I'm quite tired today, my bad, I'd missed the first part of Eric's quote (which I'd read years ago but I forgot the details) and based my reply only on the last sentence. Pvault should correct the entry accordingly. Sorry for this whole nonsense I've been giving u today

NP U and I are always cool

databank said:

Chas said:

Side Two:

Movie Star, A Place IN Heaven, Rebirth Of The Flesh, Good Love, Let Me Feel U Up, Rock Hard IN A Funky Place, Heaven, U Call Me

From there, I traded tapes and acquired boots until about 1996, when the internet came along, then I trolled the digital purple underground for goodies.

My $0.02

Chas

I never knew Good Love had been leaked before release nor that Rock Hard leaked b4 the rest of TBA! They were never pressed on CD or vinyl even back then, though, were they?

Yeah, after SOTT, those 4 were making the rounds as the last unreleased tracks from Camille. Of course, one-by-one they all were released (in one form or another like the r.o.t.f rehearsal)

The Barras market in Glasgow was an infamous source of dodgy goods, and I'm quite sure I bought a tape from there back in 1989. The first solid memory is of a friend telling me about a vinyl record he saw there called 'Crystal Ball'. I knew for a fact there was no such official album so it had to be a bootleg - I nipped down the following weekend and there it was.

The first track was 'Crystal Ball' of course and I was blown away by what I heard. Cue dreams I've had ever since where I'm in a record store and I see cover after cover of new Prince recordings that I didn't realise existed. That's a good dream until I wake up.

A shame the current generation never lived through that romantic golden era. Downloading just isn't the same, sorry, and back then no-one thought the stream of genius out-takes was going to end either.

Scotsman1999 said:

The Barras market in Glasgow was an infamous source of dodgy goods, and I'm quite sure I bought a tape from there back in 1989. The first solid memory is of a friend telling me about a vinyl record he saw there called 'Crystal Ball'. I knew for a fact there was no such official album so it had to be a bootleg - I nipped down the following weekend and there it was.

The first track was 'Crystal Ball' of course and I was blown away by what I heard. Cue dreams I've had ever since where I'm in a record store and I see cover after cover of new Prince recordings that I didn't realise existed. That's a good dream until I wake up.

A shame the current generation never lived through that romantic golden era. Downloading just isn't the same, sorry, and back then no-one thought the stream of genius out-takes was going to end either.

The only good thing about the eighties is that the pace was hysterical alright,
but at least not at nanoseconds levels.

We could savour time, my friends.
A phone ringing was exciting.

I sure hope the fine arts of waiting and expectation would come back in style.

But no, we have fluorescent yellow and fluorescent pink instead.

BobGeorge909 said:

I love all this talk of peoples first boot being a download. I was a P fan when TGE came out and I was using CompuServe. Fat chance downloading a song on CompuServe... Lol. And I'm faaaar out done buy TBA obtainers.

If you're old enough to known 33.6 kbits modems and their mystical connection chant,
then you're entitled to join the Old Timers club.

bonatoc said:

"Black Album" was it 88'?

Then a cassette with a whole bunch of stuff.

Then a very early poor-sounding CD called "Crystal Ball".

Back in those days you had dig through the specialty record stores in Minneapolis; or Comic City, of all places.

Etc..

purplepolitician said:

Whatever the first track on Charade is. Pretty sure it's All My Dreams so that. Bought it off Fleabay in mid 00s. Loved it. Been jackin boots ever since .

In the early 90s a friend gave me a boot of "The Black Album" on vinyl. I was blown away that there was an ENTIRE UNRELEASED ALBUM of music that I didn't know about.

a Vinyl boot of TBA with a re recorded OFFS and All My Dreams as bonus tracks

breakdown2k14 said:

Its Halloween and I'm listening to "others here with us ".While listening I remembered how I discovered it .I was 15 years old and downloading Prince music from a p2p app called "kazaa" .I searched Prince unreleased and found this gem. It was unlike any prince song I heard and I was surprised it was a prince song .I love horror movies so maybe that's why I love "others here with Us "so much . So what was the first unreleased prince song you heard ? How did u discover it ? What was your first impression of it ? [Edited 10/31/15 22:04pm]

Upon more thought my very first Prince boot was the VHS of the famous Purple Rain show at First Avenue (so at least this was the first time hearing "Electric Intercourse"; this was '84; then a cassette around the same time that had all famous sequence with "Girl O My Dreams," "Others Here With Us" et al. also 1984 and also given to me from the same person.

Think my first bootleg was the Platinum album with the I'll Do Anything sessions on it. Bought it at a CD collectors fair when I was at Uni.

Remember liking Make Believe, and then I heard Empty Room and the rest is history...

phunkymunky said:

Think my first bootleg was the Platinum album with the I'll Do Anything sessions on it. Bought it at a CD collectors fair when I was at Uni.

Remember liking Make Believe, and then I heard Empty Room and the rest is history...

I loved Platinum when it came out, but I pulled it out recently to hear the John L. Nelson songs again and couldn't help but notice that everything else on the disc has been upgraded to much better quality in the 20 years since that boot came out. For a while though, it had my best copy of Days Of Wild studio version. Nice artwork, too...