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Reply #60 posted 10/03/15 10:31am

Brendan

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Aerogram said:

I've listened to the song only 3 or 4 times since it came out because I don't want the album to sound like I heard half of it last year when it comes out.



Others (myself included) have repeatedly talked about the similarities of certain songs to RRLA, which is believed to a template. It's the production that is what is templated, more than the song itself, and that is simply his mid-tempo rocknfunk sound.



Whatever the case, Free Urself is effortlessly elegant in its execution and arrangement, it's a gently uplifting song with a fade that hints at an epic finale we have yet to hear.

[Edited 10/3/15 7:19am]



Yes, definitely. I hear what you're saying. At times I'm brought back to him in the late 70s. Nice.
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Reply #61 posted 10/03/15 11:47am

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Nice track. Hoping for an album like this/stare, which seems to be what everyone is hoping for too biggrin

I really like HnR, it's like AOA part 2 to me, but one of this things i love about P is his versatility

So a more "organic" album possibly produced soley by P would be cool right about now...

yes wildsign

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Reply #62 posted 10/03/15 11:51am

appleseed

There's almost always a simple happy song on even his greatest most sophisticated albums:

Eye Know, Alphabet Street — LoveSexy

Play In The Sunshine — SOTT

I Would Die 4 U — PR

Clouds (the first single) — AOA

etc.

I'm gonna give FreeUrself the benefit of the doubt, as if it's a single for Prince's next brilliant album, until I hear the entirety of next album it might be featured on. It might fit perfectly. I though Clouds was out of sync on AOA on repeated listens at first, but I love listening to it now that I've fully digested all the other tracks on AOA/PE.

Granted, it's no "I Wonder U" off Parade, but FreeUrself might be the soft note on a magnificent album of songs.

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Reply #63 posted 10/03/15 10:26pm

ZahndiFadzhina

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Doesn't mean it sucks any less. lol lol

lol

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Reply #64 posted 10/04/15 1:34am

dodger

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I haven't tired of this song yet. Such a positive vibe. And the lyrics are great - no preaching - just uplifting. It's inclusive, not exclusive. The sound of it is so organic too. And then that final minute or so where it jams out is bliss. I'm going out on a limb here - I think this is a genuine Prince classic.



That's a big statement and I think you could be right.
Totally agree on the lyrics
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Reply #65 posted 10/04/15 8:32am

BobGeorge909

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dodger said:

toejam said:

I haven't tired of this song yet. Such a positive vibe. And the lyrics are great - no preaching - just uplifting. It's inclusive, not exclusive. The sound of it is so organic too. And then that final minute or so where it jams out is bliss. I'm going out on a limb here - I think this is a genuine Prince classic.



That's a big statement and I think you could be right.
Totally agree on the lyrics

Many people said the same of "Here". A new classic. I love the song, this new one as well. " Here" for me, is in the top ten of the last decade. And this new song, "Free Urself" is the jam too.

It's just the term new classic...its kind of a oxymoron. And for either of these songs to become ANY kind of classic...they need to get popular. Neither of them ever will. And that won't be because they aren't new songs. It's just that Prince is largely last the point in hi career where any of his songs will be assigned classic status 10 years out from here. Johnny Cash is Johnny Cash....and he was still. DAMN lucky that "Hurt" turned into a classic for him and Trent. And before it turned into a classic it went thru a looong period where it was just popular. And today, there are MANY who would argue against that song having an actual 'classic' status.

Free Itself and Here are both GREAT songs, imo...as well as the opi ion of many others, but they won't ever be 'classics'.
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Reply #66 posted 10/04/15 8:56am

Ego101

The Convenience of Digital aint doin' You no favors Prince!

funksterr said:

V10LETBLUES said:

But seriously, something happened to the man. He is too young to come off so out of it. His lyrics and delivery is strange, like of someone much older or that actually did suffer a stroke. I've been talking about his awkward delivery making simple phrases come off so badly. His hearing! He uses a cheap digital trick to recreate his "camille" sound, and it sounds atrocious. Anyone, especially a discerning musician could hear and feel the difference. Mnplsound, Fallinlovetonight are so so badly made that it doesn't sound like they are by a professional much less a legend.

Before we all knew that a first time 23 year old kid put the stuff together I made a thread about the elephant in the room because people were not talking about how amateurish AOA sounded. If you like it cool, I have always said that, but that it was amateurish is undeniable. No one needed to confirm to me or others that it was put together by an amateur. It sounds like it. A bad amateur. One with nothing new to say. It's one thing to be an amateur, it's another to not have a unique perspective, something new to add to the art.

People trash music on the radio today, but that's only the less sophisticated among us.

The top music on the radio is produced and written and performed by the people at the top of their game. The young headline artists are another thing, but the people behind Taylor Swift are people at the top of their game. The true pros, the best money can buy.

Again, if people cannot hear that, cool, but it is obvious and again only the least sophisticated among us cannot tell.


yeahthat Every word true.

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Reply #67 posted 10/04/15 1:41pm

dodger

BobGeorge909 said:

dodger said:

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That's a big statement and I think you could be right.
Totally agree on the lyrics

Many people said the same of "Here". A new classic. I love the song, this new one as well. " Here" for me, is in the top ten of the last decade. And this new song, "Free Urself" is the jam too.

It's just the term new classic...its kind of a oxymoron. And for either of these songs to become ANY kind of classic...they need to get popular. Neither of them ever will. And that won't be because they aren't new songs. It's just that Prince is largely last the point in hi career where any of his songs will be assigned classic status 10 years out from here. Johnny Cash is Johnny Cash....and he was still. DAMN lucky that "Hurt" turned into a classic for him and Trent. And before it turned into a classic it went thru a looong period where it was just popular. And today, there are MANY who would argue against that song having an actual 'classic' status.

Free Itself and Here are both GREAT songs, imo...as well as the opi ion of many others, but they won't ever be 'classics'.


I know exactly what you mean about using the term 'classic.'
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Maybe we should say it could be potentially as he has to make it a 'classic' by promoting it and playing it live. I agree on Here and I think The Love We Make also had the potential to be a classic.
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Reply #68 posted 10/04/15 2:06pm

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Anyway -- what a wonderful song!!!

Don't listen to the snobs telling you (with considerable nerve) that they are more sophisticated than you, it's really tacky to make that argument.

[Edited 10/4/15 14:12pm]

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Reply #69 posted 10/04/15 3:13pm

Vannormal

An absolute better track. No JoshuaWorld, no wooshes. Even Prince back on drums. Nice fill ins. Simple but good melody. Nice keyboards...
And, the most important : it's a song with no religious topic, and without even mentioning the word God or any reference to faith. ..."and save one for me", you think prince left religiën behind ? Cause in these lyrics he seems more then happy on this very earth. I do hope so. smile
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #70 posted 10/04/15 3:30pm

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Vannormal said:

An absolute better track. No JoshuaWorld, no wooshes. Even Prince back on drums. Nice fill ins. Simple but good melody. Nice keyboards...
And, the most important : it's a song with no religious topic, and without even mentioning the word God or any reference to faith. ..."and save one for me", you think prince left religiën behind ? Cause in these lyrics he seems more then happy on this very earth. I do hope so. smile

yes this song really proves that he's doing better without Wooshjooshuaworld smile
Welcome 2 The Dawn
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Reply #71 posted 10/05/15 8:02am

BobGeorge909

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dodger said:

BobGeorge909 said:


Many people said the same of "Here". A new classic. I love the song, this new one as well. " Here" for me, is in the top ten of the last decade. And this new song, "Free Urself" is the jam too.

It's just the term new classic...its kind of a oxymoron. And for either of these songs to become ANY kind of classic...they need to get popular. Neither of them ever will. And that won't be because they aren't new songs. It's just that Prince is largely last the point in hi career where any of his songs will be assigned classic status 10 years out from here. Johnny Cash is Johnny Cash....and he was still. DAMN lucky that "Hurt" turned into a classic for him and Trent. And before it turned into a classic it went thru a looong period where it was just popular. And today, there are MANY who would argue against that song having an actual 'classic' status.

Free Itself and Here are both GREAT songs, imo...as well as the opi ion of many others, but they won't ever be 'classics'.


I know exactly what you mean about using the term 'classic.'
.
Maybe we should say it could be potentially as he has to make it a 'classic' by promoting it and playing it live. I agree on Here and I think The Love We Make also had the potential to be a classic.

I can co-sign that. The Groovy Potential Classic theory...lol.
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Reply #72 posted 10/05/15 9:05am

RodeoSchro

I really like it, and I love the lyrics.

The synth line reminds me of the old song "Sugar Shack"



Come to think of it, the verse is the same two-chord structure. Looks like Prince was jamming to some early 60's pop when he wrote this. Awesome!

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Reply #73 posted 10/05/15 9:28am

V10LETBLUES

RodeoSchro said:

I really like it, and I love the lyrics.

The synth line reminds me of the old song "Sugar Shack"



Come to think of it, the verse is the same two-chord structure. Looks like Prince was jamming to some early 60's pop when he wrote this. Awesome!



Yeah but this is so well made. I pressed play and you go wow. Everything about this recording says people cared about what they were doing. I don't mean to say art cannot be thrown together, just saying even Jackson Pollock had a standard, a certain something. Listen to punk rock, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, they may not have been the best musicians but the final work represnted something original and yes well made.

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Reply #74 posted 10/05/15 10:35am

dodger

BobGeorge909 said:

dodger said:



I know exactly what you mean about using the term 'classic.'
.
Maybe we should say it could be potentially as he has to make it a 'classic' by promoting it and playing it live. I agree on Here and I think The Love We Make also had the potential to be a classic.

I can co-sign that. The Groovy Potential Classic theory...lol.


lol touché
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Reply #75 posted 10/06/15 6:29am

mrjj71

it's my Fave Prince song for quite some time

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Reply #76 posted 10/06/15 7:10am

KCOOLMUZIQ

prince outdid himself yet again!!!!!!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #77 posted 10/06/15 6:48pm

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To be Honest Im seriously scared to like anything prince does anymore.....everything I like of his recent years have been torn apart lol.Not saying some didn't deserve it but honestly some of the criticism is too harsh or maybe I'm naive....
I Just Came To Dance and Shade for Yall
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Reply #78 posted 10/07/15 12:00am

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QueenofPurplePalace said:

To be Honest Im seriously scared to like anything prince does anymore.....everything I like of his recent years have been torn apart lol.Not saying some didn't deserve it but honestly some of the criticism is too harsh or maybe I'm naive....



The Org reception of Free Urself has been overwhelmingly positive so far. Most people here seem to enjoy the song. Not everyone, of course.

Personally, I love it.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Reply #79 posted 10/07/15 8:26am

Guitarhero

QueenofPurplePalace said:

To be Honest Im seriously scared to like anything prince does anymore.....everything I like of his recent years have been torn apart lol.Not saying some didn't deserve it but honestly some of the criticism is too harsh or maybe I'm naive....

This is one of his best songs for ages , raw , no EDM , no josh , just prince and his guitar with the ladys. music

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Reply #80 posted 10/07/15 9:53am

NorthC

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The thing with that is that the sophisticated records didn't sell. Arguably "Joy In Repetition" is the last in that run, and GB wasn't considered a hit. Hence the 180, and putting together the D&P lineup, which, lest we forget, was a HUGE hit.

The public at large want Prince to be sexy, not sophisticated.



Obviously I love "Crystal Ball" but how do you think the public would have reacted to that?


Huh? Parade, Sign o the Times, they all went gold or platinum. Can't say the same about HitNRun. So far it's sold less than Crystal Ball.
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Reply #81 posted 10/09/15 5:40am

TraSoul82

I really hope this was a vault track. Now that I've thought about it, this song reminds me of toned down version of MGMT's 'Kids'.
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Reply #82 posted 10/09/15 1:00pm

stormcrow

Don`t be amazed.. For it`s written"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. So it is written. It can not be broken.Selah
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Reply #83 posted 10/09/15 7:31pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

NorthC said:

Militant said:

The thing with that is that the sophisticated records didn't sell. Arguably "Joy In Repetition" is the last in that run, and GB wasn't considered a hit. Hence the 180, and putting together the D&P lineup, which, lest we forget, was a HUGE hit.

The public at large want Prince to be sexy, not sophisticated.

Obviously I love "Crystal Ball" but how do you think the public would have reacted to that?

Huh? Parade, Sign o the Times, they all went gold or platinum. Can't say the same about HitNRun. So far it's sold less than Crystal Ball.

Actually SOTT & Parade were both considered low sellers back then..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #84 posted 10/09/15 11:31pm

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First time I thought a Prince song sounded kind of feel-good basic and boring was "Take Me with U". But I think if the female vocals were better it would have been much better.

This is in the same vein except instead of a positive flirtation theme to the lyrics it has some kind of life counseling vibe. But hey, "Free" has bad lyrics too. Or maybe simply lyrics of a much younger man.

This has that bootleg kind of demo mix that is similar to how Guitar first sounded.

I like it.

[Edited 10/9/15 23:34pm]

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Reply #85 posted 10/11/15 9:29pm

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the more you think about the lyrics it does seem like it definitely may be a political song, especially since it comes so soon after "Baltimore." As in having a message aimed at issues in the black community. Also, the lyrics "we the people" of course are the start of the U.S. Constitution. It also makes me think about the argument you hear a lot about these days as far as: is welfare a tactic of the government in order to control people for nefarious purposes? i know that's not a discussion we want to have in this thread though & I am just speculating on the possible meaning of the song, so don't attack me please. Because there is a political ideology that says, "life is what you make it" & another one which says life is what the government can do for you.

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Reply #86 posted 10/12/15 4:15am

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Free Urself is not Prince venting some anti-welfare state nonsense. Jesus Christ.
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Reply #87 posted 10/12/15 12:03pm

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I think the song is pretty good, I enjoy listening to it. It gives me a Wendy & Lisa vibe which I like. I also liked Stare a lot, so if these songs are both on the same album it bodes well.

This is the kind of new music that I expect from Prince at this stage in his career. Not necessarily breaking any new ground but bonafide and pleasant Prince tunes with lyrics that are not (too) religious, offending or stupid. With a pleasant organic sound and production I like this type of stuff much better than most of the music on HNR.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #88 posted 10/12/15 4:19pm

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Skipper puts something a little above mediocre and everyone is wetting their pants.

No, really, the times they are coming to an end.

It would be kind of an OK song if this was a late eighties unreleased track.
But putting this shit out at 57 years old?
This kind of phony adolescent attitude?

He's still chasing teenagers while approaching 60, and it's getting real gross.

Not only do teenagers ignore him totally
(it would be better to get at least some rocks thrown at him),
but he succeeds on embarking all of you on this
retro nostalgic slightly 60's vibe.

Hint it sucks : Most of what can be read on this, and on HnR,
is how many times people have to "give it another listen"
to start appreciating it.

I'm sure after 20 times I could find some qualities
to Susan Doyle. Except there are (real) young talents on fire out there,
and they deserve my time more than Ol' SKipper rehashing
the same fucking boring theme over and over again.

When these are times are calling for some kind of SOTT the song pt. II,
he comes up with this bland hippie shit, which exsudes the usual paranoia :
We're the Purple Army, we will show them the light,
one day they (whomever they may be) will open their eyes
and see the truth (whatever this may be — oh wait, JW's!), blah blah blah...

I think I'm going to jump ship soon,
as many other brilliant orgers did before me.

The org is slowly turning into a fucking kindergarten.
Or a retirement home, which is pretty similar.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #89 posted 10/12/15 10:50pm

funkaholic1972

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bonatoc said:

Skipper puts something a little above mediocre and everyone is wetting their pants.

No, really, the times they are coming to an end.

It would be kind of an OK song if this was a late eighties unreleased track.
But putting this shit out at 57 years old?
This kind of phony adolescent attitude?

He's still chasing teenagers while approaching 60, and it's getting real gross.

Not only do teenagers ignore him totally
(it would be better to get at least some rocks thrown at him),
but he succeeds on embarking all of you on this
retro nostalgic slightly 60's vibe.

Hint it sucks : Most of what can be read on this, and on HnR,
is how many times people have to "give it another listen"
to start appreciating it.

I'm sure after 20 times I could find some qualities
to Susan Doyle. Except there are (real) young talents on fire out there,
and they deserve my time more than Ol' SKipper rehashing
the same fucking boring theme over and over again.

When these are times are calling for some kind of SOTT the song pt. II,
he comes up with this bland hippie shit, which exsudes the usual paranoia :
We're the Purple Army, we will show them the light,
one day they (whomever they may be) will open their eyes
and see the truth (whatever this may be — oh wait, JW's!), blah blah blah...

I think I'm going to jump ship soon,
as many other brilliant orgers did before me.

The org is slowly turning into a fucking kindergarten.
Or a retirement home, which is pretty similar.

Bye bye! lol

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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