^That's also true for the hysterions that repeat that each and everything Prince does and releases is genius straight from heaven, by the way. They're just so totally useless

databank said:

NouveauDance said:

What I see is it's all about WHICH albums you like. If you dislike HITNRUN or AOA - you're a hater, if you dislike Planet Earth it's ok because it's Planet Earth. Now I like PE, but I'm still a hater because I don't like 3121, 20Ten, Musicology etc. I'm left scratching my head over what makes someone a "hater" or not other than general consensus on certain pop albums

I don't think real haters post on this site. This is still a fan site of sorts. Some albums are good, some are less good. But a) it is Prince, so still we buy/listen to all albums and b) it is a personal matter of taste. Taste can be discussed for ever, but in fact it is pointless to discuss taste.

KingSausage said:

databank said:

I don't recall you repeating like a mantra that Prince hasn't released a decent thing in 20 years, as proven by the part in bold.

I wrote on this very forum that I hated PE when released in 2007, and that I was totally hermetic to Back In Time 6 months ago. Then I'd rave on Mplsound or Superconductor. Similarly I can think Prince behaves like an ass on one thing (lotusflow3r.com) and not condemning everything he does or say as if he was the dictator of a horrible totalitarian regime raping little girls for breakfast!

The people I think are doing little more than trolling are those who create a new thread every week to say that Prince is over and done and bitch on nearly everything he does, says, or releases, continuously, no matter what it is.

Some people like Bart do that but at least Bart often provides usueful information, so he fulfills a purpose in this community.

Certain other people, honestly, it's like they're only here because Prince once slept with their girlfriend.

IDK, say u hate HnR all u want, I'm fine with that. Say u hate everything but 2 or 3 songs since 1995 and I say get outta here u ain't bringing anything to this community.

Thanks. I appreciate it. I've had people imply I'm a pure naysayer because I don't like HITNRUN. It's annoying. Do I need to praise Rave a few more times?

Well we're cool, we've always been cool as far as I remember

Some people can't stand any criticsm towards Prince's music, so yeah maybe u should say Rave is a MASTERPIECE in your signature

soo... the hitnrun reviews thread is gone?

starkitty said:

soo... the hitnrun reviews thread is gone?

They're probably going to unsticky it and start round two. It'll be back.

Genesia said:

databank said:

The best paradox is I'm sure I'm considered just one step below KCool as a supporter

while King Sausage actually loves far more of Prince's music than I do.

Ambiguity is where it's at in this world.

Aerogram said:

Here are some facts:
Gravity.
Cells.
All bachelors are unmarried.

Here are some opinions:
"Eggs taste like shit"
"I like dogs"
"HITNRUN Phase I sucks"
"HITNRUN Phase I doesn't suck"

It's unfortunate that not too many folks seem to tell the difference around here.

KingSausage said:

KingSausage said:

Genesia said:

That is rude - no question about it. But to be honest, I haven't seen a whole lot of that. What I see more of is, "You don't like HITNRUN. You hate Prince. " Or, "You're just old and don't get modern music. " Or, "If you hate Prince so much, why are you here?"

I was called a "hater" before AOA even came out, for expressing the opinion that, based on what I had heard at that point (Breakfast Can Wait, and various and sundry snippets), I had serious reservations about whether I'd like the album. Keep in mind that my comments were based on content - not on personalities or any other ad hominem.

Everybody just needs to lighten up. It's entertainment (or should be), for crying out loud.

EXACTLY. People are so quick to brand others as haters or ass-kissers. For god's sake, we're discussing Prince albums here, not the Syrian refugee crisis.

That gave me my great laugh of the day!!!

....

Always love your posts man though I don't always agree with your opinion. But I like that you discuss and explain your opinion. When someone just says "THIS SUCKS" that's when I (as a Prince-can-do-no-wrong person) get irritated/jaded by opinions on the Org.

KingSausage said:

iZsaZsa said:

KingSausage said:

KingSausage said:

pdiddy2011 said:

Another thing that perplexes me lately is that I have seen several posts, including this one, that makes it seem like people that like Prince's output are somehow bullying those that don't like Prince's output.

To my recollection, it seems like the other way around - by a wide margin. The people that don't like Prince's output seem to be much more hostile and antagonistic about expressing their negative reviews, many times insulting those that do like said output.

It's both sides. But my thread is aiming at something larger. The paradox I mentioned. Why do some people get labeled as "haters" because they don't like the newest album even when they love past albums that most people dislike? It doesn't make any sense. Is there a psychological need for people to get everyone in line to love the newest album? Why's it cool to bash Rave or Planet Earth but not HITNRUN?

"It doesn't make any sense." That describes many of our comments on here at any given time. For instance, I'm really liking this album now -- after mocking it a bit. Why? Is it because it's a grower? Is it because it's Wednesday? I don't know. I just know that now I like "Mr. Nelson" more than I should. Damn U Prince and your catchy steel drums.

iZsaZsa said:

dadeepop said:

KingSausage said:

dadeepop said:

"It doesn't make any sense." That describes many of our comments on here at any given time. For instance, I'm really liking this album now -- after mocking it a bit. Why? Is it because it's a grower? Is it because it's Wednesday? I don't know. I just know that now I like "Mr. Nelson" more than I should. Damn U Prince and your catchy steel drums.

I like my funk logical!

We Can Logically Funk!

I would Die 4U sucks
Jughead is funky

Nope, Im not taking the piss either.

Rebeljuice said:

I would Die 4U sucks
Jughead is funky

Omg I am not sure what this thread is about now..

But.... you can't be serious about those 2 songs, that sure is crazy.

I would die 4 U is a Prince classic. Overplayed maybe but still a classic.

I've never understood why when it comes to Prince's music (or any other art) why anyone should care what someone else thinks about it. It's like fighting over favourite colours.

2funkE said:

I've never understood why when it comes to Prince's music (or any other art) why anyone should care what someone else thinks about it. It's like fighting over favourite colours.

2funkE said:

I've never understood why when it comes to Prince's music (or any other art) why anyone should care what someone else thinks about it. It's like fighting over favourite colours.

If your favourite colour isnt purple then you must be a hater!

Guitarhero said:

2funkE said:

I've never understood why when it comes to Prince's music (or any other art) why anyone should care what someone else thinks about it. It's like fighting over favourite colours.

I’ve grown up listening to Prince. I’ve been a fan since the first time I saw Little Red Corvette on MTV in the 80s. I know my problems with his music are my own and should not be seen as anything more than a personal opinion. I’ve found something to like in almost every album the man has put out. I really like HNR. It’s a fun little record. However (and here’s the paradox), it disappoints me tremendously. I’m getting older. The music I find myself listening to the most—the music I turn to time and again—has depth and substance. Party records… I can’t seem to muster the energy for more than a few listens. I don’t have the time. I’m a grown ass man. I expect more from my entertainment these days. I want to listen to something important, something honest. Again, I like HNR for what it is. But those songs are lacking. There’s no Time or Way Back Home, no When Doves Cry or Computer Blue, no Reflection, no Anna Stesia, no My Computer, no Come Back, no Until You’re in My Arms Again. In many ways, Purple Rain and The Rainbow Children (yes, even with the heavyhanded Christianity and ridiculous narration) are the most important albums he's ever made. Are they as good as some of his party records? Maybe not, but they’re honest. I'm ready for Prince to do something important again. It's time to put away childish things.

2funkE said:

I've never understood why when it comes to Prince's music (or any other art) why anyone should care what someone else thinks about it. It's like fighting over favourite colours.

U wanna know why? Because everyone here think they're music critics, experts with so much taste AND knowledge that they're entitled to a scholar type of opinion.

It's true for some, but many are just clueless people who don't know Lady Gaga from John Coltrane and still believe that because they're (and I quote) entitled to an opinion, they're entitled to voice it.

Some others are also entitled to claim the earth is flat in GD. And you wouldn't believe the non-Prince related shit I read on Facebook.

Well yeah, they're entitled to voice their opinion. It's a human right aw'igh' I can't fight that. Still, I think some people should be discouraged by friends and relatives from voicing their opinion on the internet. U know, for the future of human kind's sake

databank said:

2funkE said:

I've never understood why when it comes to Prince's music (or any other art) why anyone should care what someone else thinks about it. It's like fighting over favourite colours.

U wanna know why? Because everyone here think they're music critics, experts with so much taste AND knowledge that they're entitled to a scholar type of opinion.

It's true for some, but many are just clueless people who don't know Lady Gaga from John Coltrane and still believe that because they're (and I quote) entitled to an opinion, they're entitled to voice it.

Some others are also entitled to claim the earth is flat in GD. And you wouldn't believe the non-Prince related shit I read on Facebook.

Well yeah, they're entitled to voice their opinion. It's a human right aw'igh' I can't fight that. Still, I think some people should be discouraged by friends and relatives from voicing their opinion on the internet. U know, for the future of human kind's sake

Maybe the people reading those opinions should be more discerning, learn to filter out the stuff they're not interested in, and quit taking everything personally.

Genesia said:

databank said:

U wanna know why? Because everyone here think they're music critics, experts with so much taste AND knowledge that they're entitled to a scholar type of opinion.

It's true for some, but many are just clueless people who don't know Lady Gaga from John Coltrane and still believe that because they're (and I quote) entitled to an opinion, they're entitled to voice it.

Some others are also entitled to claim the earth is flat in GD. And you wouldn't believe the non-Prince related shit I read on Facebook.

Well yeah, they're entitled to voice their opinion. It's a human right aw'igh' I can't fight that. Still, I think some people should be discouraged by friends and relatives from voicing their opinion on the internet. U know, for the future of human kind's sake

Maybe the people reading those opinions should be more discerning, learn to filter out the stuff they're not interested in, and quit taking everything personally.

U're right but online it's hard. IRL I have found my ways to stay away from utter nonsense and complete idiots and I have reasonable debates with reasonable people, and when someone speaks nonsense I'm just like OK, and if they won't be reasoned I just listen and nod and walk away. Online for some reason I can't totally avoid them, maybe because I also see (and I mean out of the Org) how certain young and influenceable people are falling for nonsense and it makes me mad. But yeah u're damn right. I wish I had half the wisdom I have IRL when I'm online

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